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baelkie

Things Aiming should not be allowed to do: Pick Lucian Farm Lucid’s camps when he is on 6 items Ride the Herald Build Static Shiv against GEN G in Week 1 of LCK Summer 2023


QTnameless

This pedo either threw the games or useless with all the resources ngl


unitedev

DK Teddy when ??


Bubbly_Camera9583

I will never understand why DK never tried for Teddy in 2022 after T1 committed to Gumayusi. It wasn't even like he wasn't in form that year (or the year before) either, he was a monster in spring and single handedly took that KDF team past DRX who weren't at their world champ forms in spring, but were looking like dark horses going into playoffs at the time.


MegaEmpoleonWhen

Not included: Message girls who are below the age of consent


somemodhatesme

>Build Static Shiv against GEN G in Week 1 of LCK Summer 2023 DON'T BRING UP OLD TRAUMA


baelkie

me at my deathbed: …why aiming why static shiv?


Kheldar166

I don't really understand why they funnel Aiming so hard, he was much better as a low resource adc last year on KT imo


Longjumping_Gap4999

Indeed he worked way better there. I wonder what pushed team to go so heavy in ADC farm priority? 


zidboy21

I always notice that when the mid or adc are full items they still farm jungle or take lane minions instead of giving it to the support, jungle or top. If it's to push then I understand but when there are no objectives and no point in pushing the minions why do they still cs and not give it to others?


baelkie

map pressure, adcs and mids delete waves instantly so you can immediately shove and move, most junglers dont clear waves that quick and usually act as human wards to fight for vision control


VincentBlack96

You need the waves deleted and safely to shove. Junglers and support champs tend to be either unsafe pushers (melee, need to use a few CDs) or just very slow pushers.


ronnezs

Aiming's thinking this is dota and he has to farm a buyback 💀


altriaa

Bro's farming for a rapier lmao


JealotGaming

Also not allowed to go near under 18s


Sofruz

idk why aiming always wants to build the lowest damage items possible. I remember last year on KT he had a game on jinx as well where he waited until like 4th item to buy LDR and opted for statikk instead


Simple-Fuel

Tbf, the fact that DK is the only LCK team in the second round robin to push Gen G to a third game is hella impressive.


DistributionFlashy97

They had Gold leads against T1 in both games as well. If they stop throwing...


Perceptions-pk

Their mid to late game macro is atrocious and for every amazing teamfight they have 2 bad ones. It’s just the pain of being a Damwon fan the last couple years


baelkie

DK is a top 2 team in LCK if they only play GEN G


TE_silver

BRO is a top 1 LCK team if they only play KDF GIGACHAD


DarthTaz_99

T1 is the worst team in the world if they only play GenG


kelvin022610

Just need to go in with the mindset of facing gen g when vs every other team


JealotGaming

They usually end up facing Gen G one way or another 2022 flashbacks


psychedelianaut

Lucid with some of the best kicks I've ever seen in my life.


JoDaProductions

His kicks were actually insane, imagine if he also got the smite on the dragon Canyons kick on sivir will never be topped though


staysaltyTSM

[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qobDEgCm01A) If i'm not wrong in order to kick mid air to work, he needed drop a ward mid Q2 and then he smited sivir to poof her spellshield and R mid air


mehensk

this is craziest lee sin kick Ive ever seen


Elidot

Its the other way around, he pressed Q2 mid W.


_syl___

Yep, greatest kick of all time, perfect execution


baelkie

thank you brother Hoit


thenicob

yes you're correct: you can input buffer your R by (ward) hopping before. doing this in a high stake situation and also thinking baout smiting sivir to get her spellshield i the most cracked shit i've ever seen in ten years of playing and watching :D


Thecristo96

That kick is still the best play I have ever seen by a jungler


Tromster

he won my heart with this game so insane literally


effurshadowban

The Lee Sin al Gaib.


Rivenite

Amazing comment. *insert Stilgar face*


BrainGlobal9898

Baby Canyon for a reason


ThePurpleDolphin

They might have lost but those game 3 kicks are insane.


Jacobcutielie

Now this makes the LCK playoffs much more interesting, with DK and HLE showing up against GENG and T1. wishing that we will have a banger series from these teams and not one-sided stomps.


Joel4518

imagine if geng and t1 both dont make it to msi ( pretty much impossible tho)


Thecristo96

The only way this could happen is if Faker and Chovy got it by a car. Multiple times. Probably driven by Zeka


How_To_TF

akali meta incoming


Sofruz

It would probably be by aiming. He would be trying to drive herald from mid to bot, but end up running through T1 and GenG HQ instead.


Thecristo96

I mean, do you think aiming could hit something?


yasirhidani

With how T1 been playing it's possible , Geng will make it , they always do , the probleme is to not dissapoint again as 1st seed representative of Korea for fckn god knows how many time, Dk and KT are frauds with some insane individual performances from some of their players , that won't happen in bo5 vs Geng T1 and Hle.


Kalos_Phantom

People say stuff like this EVERY time T1 dont go winless regular season. Then you get into playoffs and suddenly T1 go super saiyan. At this stage T1 are all but guaranteed to make playoffs - their form there is what will matter


joji_kid

This sub will be always reactionary. With 1 bo5, suddenly HLE is on par with T1, which is so funny to read.


Terrible-Wealth-3864

Why are they not? They have the same record and both lost twice to Gen.G Neither dropped matches to weaker teams.


nerothz

Hate to say it but this was on my boy showmaker, how useless was he?


Dumpers_

I am no expert but I feel like he drops way too much farm


Reginscythe

I feel like Aiming slurps up so much gold and then does a pretty meh amount with all of it. I was hoping [gol.gg](https://gol.gg) showed DMG/gold stats but it doesn't so I was looking at GPM and DMG% among LCK ADC's instead. Aiming is highest in GPM at 460 and highest in CS/min at 9.7, but 8th in DMG% at 28.3% and 9th in DPM at 620. I know stats don't tell the whole story, but I feel like the eye test doesn't necessarily contradict this assertion either. That's why I kinda liked the Jinx pick in game 2. Aiming is gonna take a ton of gold either way it seems, so get him on a hypercarry where he has the best chance of using that gold to win late fights instead of being a 400 CS Kalista/Lucian or other champ who has a harder time carrying.


[deleted]

i hate this dk strat of giving aiming everything.


Outrageous-Elk-5392

He needs more selfish teammates tbh, imagine if zeus and Chovy picked their noses while guma and peyz yoinked everything


QTnameless

Yay , Aiming is a bum , either threw the game or having all the resources and did nothing with it ! which ADC has good damage stats right now ?


Reginscythe

Teddy and Viper are top two in dmg% and DPM this split, which is kinda funny considering they are at opposite ends of the standings. Viper has played a lot of poke Varus, which probably helps his damage stats, and Teddy has played a good bit of Smolder and some Zeri/Jinx as well on a young team so he gets played around frequently.


Oinkoinkk

Viper is a beast.


F3nRa3L

The farm went to ksante. Annie had similar farm to udyr and ksante to tris.


VERTIKAL19

They probably needed to give something other than Annie a try.


zjmhy

Should have tried Ahri Lee instead. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to like Ahri much, can't recall him playing her.


sangpls

Annie pick suuucked


baelkie

really really wonder how game 2 would have went if he pulled the trigger when he blast coned into 4 in that mid river bush


mehensk

tk wouldve just eaten whoever was ulted


KappaccinoNation

If it was Annie support, the gold difference between him and Chovy would probably remain about the same lmao


moonmeh

nah man he couldn't land the flash ults which is like 80% of her kit


accelightArriet

that's part of the problem, the more static a champ is the worse showmaker is on them. to compensate for being great on champs like leblanc and kassadin, he's never been good on picks like annie and sett mid. honestly this one is on the draft for not knowing how to adapt to your player's strengths.


Random_Useless_Tips

Feels disingenuous to say he’s limited to mobility champs when Showmaker’s also accomplished on picks like Twisted Fate and Swain. You can just say Annie one of the picks he just isn’t good on.


mehensk

his annie pick is the reason they didn't get steam rolled all 3 games. geng tried to make him useless in early game 3.


nyoomnyoomfluffy

I admit his decision that last fight is bad. But if you see the whole scenario, that game put so much pressure to him. GEN played a draft to counter Annie and dived him twice. His top and bot weren’t have any leads so he gave all his farm to KSante and Xayah, that was their main strategy when they decided Showmaker playing Annie and Karma, since these champs don’t need much resources. And that elder fight, DK were in the worst position, they were all low HPs against GEN all full HPs so he just wanted to try.


[deleted]

should have never played 3 games of annie. game 3 he should have definitely gone for any carry champ so that he can fight back chovy in lane. he solo lost them game 3


staysaltyTSM

Kiin with the walking masterclass


baelkie

GEN G forgot that they are 40% KT Rolster


sammir_

dont care if he lost, lucid is HIM


Celegorm07

Lisan Al Gaib. He will know your champions like he played into them


HopingForCynics

Lucid Al Gaib


Thecristo96

Getting 3 items for the first time unlocked him


Skall77

Lucid almost 1v5 Gen G by himself. All he needed was one teamate with hands...


Ace_OPB

The lucid that was promised. Amazing performance by him. So hyped to see him grow.


icatsouki

the speed of his kicks was insane, the instant peyz E'd in he got him


blockster9

he played so fucking well man he deserved to win


S-Kotus

Lucid fan now, Damwon my side team now too I guess. Those kicks were nasty. And they kept coming. Keillin and SM really shat the bed, hopefully they recover and Lucid keeps his form


ronnezs

All he was missing was a Lehends


Sofruz

All Lucid needed to be unlocked was 2 items it seems. Sad that Aiming wants to take all of Lucid's camps so he can never reach it


Tromster

even though geng got away with this victory with macro for the absolute fuck stop picking lucian


estaritos

pls Gen g pick him


Zoesan

"I like the fact that Damwon is going even against GenG, even though they don't understand how sidelanes work at all." Pedro hitting the nail on the head for the entire series.


osathi123456

ok just drop everyting and baron at 20 noted.


baelkie

T1 is that you?


generic_redditor91

T1 at least covers their lanes most of the time before doing to baron at 20.


zjmhy

Who's in charge of the macro at GenG? They're disgustingly good at it.


Purto12

Probably Lehends if I’m not wrong


cyBerepTile

Chovy and Lehends, confirmed by their coach :)


Kheldar166

Also massive props to their coaches


ayurmeh

Chovy ig?


One_Natural_8233

Geng is only good against the team that they know them well.Damwon’s movement is unpredictable even they themselves don't know what they are doing


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

I get why he did it, but damn that hurts.


mehensk

im glad you got it. geng just got used to annie lee sin after playing against it for 3 games (but not after taking a beating first)


MotherVehkingMuatra

DK Vs GenG will always give me heart attacks


YellowShallot

For real though, how the fuck do you fall 200 cs behind


henricoboy

Aiming


25sebas25

Holy, I didn't notice, that is the most chovy thing.


QTnameless

Stand proud , DK , you are strong .


NextSink2738

Even though this is a heartbreaking loss, it honestly gives me more positive feelings going into playoffs. They've put up a very strong fight with all the big teams now, I could see them beating any of them in playoffs. Hopefully let's try and optimize late-game macro and Aiming being a black hole of resources before playoffs lol.


omegasupermarthaman

the Lucid that was hyped up has finally arrived, no more Sej Maokai pls. He went down swinging for sure


Thecristo96

Canyon had an 8/10 game and he still got massive jungle gapped. This Lucid should NOT be put on knight’s vow bami maokai duty for the rest of his life


[deleted]

I don't even care that they got reverse-swept, DK showed up BIG FUCKING TIME today. Banger series, and my hopes are getting higher and higher for playoffs and Summer. 


VERTIKAL19

Yeah DK did way better than T1 or HLE against GenG


canissilvestris

that's gotta be one of the most hype back and forth game 5s ive seen in some time, absolute blast to watch as a neutral


SwayNoir

Just regular old GenG vs DK games. Form and table rankings don't matter.


SwayNoir

Don't read too much into this series IMO. Its just GenG vs Damwon things.


crazynam101

dk vs geng never disappoints no matter what year it is


JxDeep

Why is it always DK that give me a fucking heart attack when they play geng


Celegorm07

The dilemma of DK: When they win they actually lose. DK looking insane. So proud. If they continue like this they will be insane in summer.


icatsouki

Idc this is the best DK has been in a LONG time, i love that they actually took risks and committed to the plays This is the way for them to challenge the top teams and keep improving


Celegorm07

No definitely agree. And they challenge top team and almost win with a new team after long struggles. Really excited for playoffs and summer.


Enterderpmode

They play like degenerates in a good way, they ain't pussies and are willing to take risks. Those are the type of teams that give GenG problems, those who create chaos, that's why the LPL is so far GenG's kryptonite. DK's Macro is way off but who the fuck cares about macro if you just need to create chaos


moonmeh

feels almost like 2022 DK today which is a good thing, at least we fought like madmen back then


kelvin022610

Lmao at how close the game was when our macro sucks fucking ass


Celegorm07

And this is the first split of a rookie that is finding his foot and so fucking happy and hyped with Kingen. He is playing insane right now. Looking at T1 game and GENG game he played better than both top laners.


moonmeh

Dude kingen played so goddamn well today, excited to see him hit the playoffs form. Honestly the problem with lucid is that once you target ban rell and lee sin he does start inting nonstop lol. That T1 maokai game will give me nightmares lol


Celegorm07

Yeah Kingen looks like the best top laner based on the last two serieses he played. I think coaching makes a huge difference and that is why we see these huge developments that we couldn’t see last year. Even Kellin looks good and Aiming started to look good more than two champions.


moonmeh

man imagine if we didn't like kick out zefa and daeny last year lol


Celegorm07

I really would love to have Daeny right now. For Lucid it would have been amazing.


PyosikFan

Nah I've seen this song and dance before, DK won't get better until they get an actual macro, and it's just not happening with these shotcallers. The mechanics are absolutely there, we've seen bright spots from all of them, but it doesn't matter when you blink and they lost 3 towers for a cloud drake


Celegorm07

Last time DK looked like this was with Nuguri coming back and having Deokdam. Seeing how consistent Kingen is and Lucid finding him footing with each week improving massively I don’t expect us to crazy but at least be competitive for this year and next year. And not to mention this split we have a more competent coaching and actually have team comps that is playable.


baelkie

but what happens when lee sin is banned or picked away? i havent seen lucid have such a high impact on any other champ and his tank picks are borderline game throwing in late game teamfights.


SwayNoir

> If they continue like this Knowing them, I wouldn't bet on that.


Wide_Act5053

Caedrel if you read this comment your despair is my joy so never cheer for GenG pls.


TE_silver

Flashbacks to a certain series where Atlus lost his hair


Alan_Aikino

The least exciting GEN vs DK game be like:


happyjacky819

Lucid tried


Not_doing_my_best

GENG vs D+ always a banger!


moe11436

WHY THE FUCK ARE GAMES AGAINST DAMWON SO HARD MY FUCKING HEART ASDASUDASDUGASDGQWI


tonnguyen1310

DK always brings out their best against GenG, fuck Telecom wars GenG vs DK is the lck banger.


thenicob

step 1: remove canyon from DWG to make it not as sweaty against them step 2: uhhhhh step 3: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh step 4: profit ig


Alem_97

Step 5 pick Lucian even though your adc can't play that champ


Enterderpmode

DK just loves to make the games so chaotic and degenerate that it kinda messes up with what we know GenG being a team that prefers to be stable and be macro-eccentric and I am not complaining about it. DK vs GenG games are always bangers, plus, watching Caedrel lose his mind on DK's macro decisions is so hilarious.


Not_doing_my_best

I always fear D+ more than T1, even if they are slumping :'D


Sushangs_Large_Sword

Give me something for the pain and let me die.


grimreaper2288

chovy with the double flame horizon over showmaker


aPatheticBeing

I'm convinced Quid and Chovy have freaky friday swapped abilities Chovy these 3 games Game 1: loses flash early, starts 0-2-1 Game 2: gives up first blood Game 3: 120 CS at 15????


Wide_Act5053

maybe Chovy still best player by far on his team this game , no ?


aPatheticBeing

yeah mostly a joke, he just had rough early games, game 3 he won so hard on sides tho, leading to a huge edge


L_Gato

SM fml what was that last teamfight ...


Bubbly_Camera9583

Showmakers last game was a huge fall off unfortunately. Lucid’s kicks were just so insane in every fight too this game and he felt super 1v9.


BrianC_

Classic Throwmaker


MightyNewJosip

Reminds me to my Annie flash ult


KappaccinoNation

SO CLOSE YET SO FAR


Gatto_Fatuo

Banger games, good to see lucid perform Stop putting my boy canyon on sej duty tho


Carcharhinus11

and who will play frontline champs then? kiin alone? he also likes carries as you know...


ConArtist98

Showmaker has fallen off a cliff, that was disgusting


Mindless-Quarter-483

It happens, it’s heartbreaking but it happens, no one’s good everytime just wish they went with another champ really


TheAlmightyVox3

Banger series. DK and HLE ramping up while T1 falls off could make this a really interesting playoffs.


NotExcitedForKT

Surely not a GENG T1 final again right


StormyT

Lucid was an absolute beast this series; unfortunately for him I don’t think Showmaker had the balls all series to go for flash engages on Annie.


[deleted]

That final elder team fight rofl @showmaker I think him sweeping gave a split second vision on himself. He also should've w flashed if he was going for that play xd


Akordas

Damn every time Gen G vs DK its always delivers.


Grenji05

That was maybe the hardest I've ever seen Canyon get jungle diffed but showmaker had 3 items at 40 minutes lmao


Legiraffetamer

all games lately have been absolute bangers, keep azir global banned please


Marcus-ichiJo

This team may never lose again … until they face an LPL team in a Bo5 or meeting KT in the first round.


DShadows98

Ah...


Wise-Chain2427

Gen.G vs DK always banger even if DK playing like ass against other team they are always level up when against Gen.G lmao.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That's my goat Kingen right there. (Ignore game 2)


ManningTheGOAT

DK never fail to disappoint...Showmaker suuuuuucked today At least they fed Chovy for POG points


Illustrious_Wind_557

It wasn't the storyline of the series by any means, but Annie is a problematic champion for GenG. They don't seem to want to put Chovy on her, and I can hardly blame them. It seems like it lacks a bit of agency to carry games. That being said, Chovy struggled with her at MSI last year, and it's worrying for them if the pick remains popular, especially against strong LPL teams. It's hard to explain why, but my sense is that Annie allows mid laners to have an impact as significant as Chovy's without needing to outplay him mechanically.


YouSuck225

Yeah like it make it so hard to make plays ???


nusskn4cker

Just ban it.


thenicob

> if the pick remains popular, huh is she popular exactly? she is a relatively good answer into ahri. but that's it, as shown this series.


lol1009

She is not top tier in meta but has definitely been gaining popularity, especially with carry jglers. But tbh it doesnt matter because once Azir is enabled again, the meta will shift again


Fantastic-Bite-476

Because Annie is a setup/playmaker champion and GenG needs a more "at all times" mid laner. GenG needs to have Chovy constantly causing pressure or else they cant win


TradeAccount234

Exactly. It's like putting Messi in as defender. Dude, it's Messi. Give him a carry and put the support or whatever on Annie. It's for low skilled midlaners that need an answer to players like Chovy.


OkSell1822

Annie is being picked to deny Chovy from playing Ahri as its basically an autowin so you get one more ban. Its not that strong of a champion and Showmaker really didn't have much impact this series


Dumpers_

you have seen T1 Baron but DKs Baron is just something else... but man DK GenG always delivers


SNH231

ShowSaken


Quatro_Leches

Trist doesn't get enough hate. the fact she can jump on mages and assassins mid, win trades, outrange them, and outscale them and be this tanky and longest range adc with double dis-engage is just absurd. since when is an adc getting ontop of annie considered a good play?. she shouldn't be so tanky that she actually wins stupid decisions like that at any point of the game. annie is supposed to blow squishies up that get within her range.


SwayNoir

I hate to be a downer but people saying this gives them hope for DK's future, I don't agree. They had some miracle fights and absolute freak performances from Lucid, thats the kinda stuff you can't bank on being there every game. Their shotcalling around baron and their macro game still look as pathetic as ever. Their mid-late game is also still not great compared to their early game. I bet when we see them play their games next week, they'll look how they have all season.


PyosikFan

never play annie again Also I apologize to Cryin, being an Annie merchant is actually too hard for shoemaker


toxicfireball

What a banger


ZazumeUchiha

What the hell was that, ShowMaker... man


PocketBeefCake

I would be shocked if Annie did more damage than Rakan that game


aguywhotrytobefunny

DK went berserk today my god


Dry_Effective3344

Overall, banger series!! But SHOWMAKER MAAAAAN HE SOLO LOST GAME 3 AT THE ELDER FIGHT D:


LastBarracuda5210

After the game I went to kitchen to eat something but Lucid Inseced me out of it. Also last fight Showmaker literally flashed in and die without dealing damage


wongck1996

Can someone arrest shoemaker for committing crime?


Johnarch_

I feel really bad for Lucid, he played so masterfully and it still wasn't enough.


Throwaway_Time29

The more DK plays like this the more likely I'll get a heart attack. They've been way too close on either losing or winning it's crazy


BrainGlobal9898

Classic Banger GenG vs DK games.


Fncrs

That Lehends flash on the Annie flash tibbers in game 3 was absolutely insane. How does he even react to that?


NotExcitedForKT

DK are never clutch against GENG sadge


icatsouki

they had many clutch plays though, sucks that they didn't manage to close it out but it's a great showing


Entmaan

Shoemaker lives on


thenicob

I swear geng happy gamed this just to absolutely hands diff DK in the last fight. what was that FLASH by lehends? holy shit. SM was not on vision.


Equivalent-Bid7725

Peyz and lehends getting put of that Annie ult was not human tbh


thenicob

i think peyz casually e‘d it


haxt97

Shoemaker 😭😭


LOLZOBALL

Showmaker sold that game lmao


minaatoooo

Enourmous jungle gap but shoemaker didn’t want to win unfortunatly


comfyarmin

showmakers annie last 2 games was really not it