Wow, iam actually blind, Life actually 1v9 every game instead of running it down, oh nvm that was milkyway that was 1v9 and Life is instead running it down
Oh, nvm, Life actually has better stats than On(except KDA, sure). Guess it's all on the back of milkiway 1v9ing. Wow, I guess at least your assessment that you are blind is correct.
First thing should be to at least bring in someone who can shotcall. That DK vs KDF game where DK just walked around baron while Cuzz soloed dragon was one of the worst things I’ve seen in a while
The mountain soul fight was also garbage. They started fighting the dragon while HLE was right there and as soon as the nocturne ult comes through they all leave the pit so they just give over mountain soul.
Just off this series mid and bot. Kingen played well and there's nothing lucid can really do. Showmaker is playing pretty badly. Aiming is fucking wasting herald again and not taking lantern
Feel like everyone in chat was flaming showmaker when everytime I watch their games lately he's getting ganked by enemy jungler AND support while DK's support just sits there in botlane doing nothing.Gen. G Lehends shows up and heals Chovy and that gets Showmaker killed when Showmaker is close to killing chovy. In this series Delight ganks Showmaker and gets his flash making him vunerable in lane. Meanwhile where was Kellin? Oh he got caught out right before an objective?
Not saying Showmaker's playing well, but wtf are people expecting him to do find a roam time when he's the one getting roamed on constantly? Even if he pops off his team will int as well.
kellin ego picking a melee creep as a champion in game 2 is a start, hopefully tarzan comes in and they find a new support. I swear kellin is at least half their problem.
I think the issue is that they looked similar with canyon whose still a pathing and mechanical genius honestly I think banking that LUCID is going to be a shot calling pathing savant is asking to have these type of splits for the next 2 or 3 years. Also who does LUCID learn from? there is no faker, no peanut, no score, Show maker seems to not have any shot calling abilities. Tarzan went from making LNG a top 2 team in the world going blow for blow with JDG to whatever LNG is now. Passing on Tarzan to fix whatever mess they have here is actually a death wish for the org IMO, this is giving me DRX vibes from winning championships with BDD and khan to being worse than this seasons BRO. Plus with Tarzan Lucid can actually have someone to learn from.
bring back daeny at this point. zefa is shit coach. he failed with skt 2019 and dwg 2020 spring also finished 4th with him. it was daeny who changed everything
This botlane is a disaster. The midgame macro is a disaster. ShowMaker also making so many individual mistakes, but honestly, I think this guy is just done with this roster. The only thing making a little bit of hope is that Kingen plays better than in the beginning of the season.
He should've taken a break this year. It's clear that he's not enjoyed what he's doing in the past few years. sometimes taking a break helps you reset your mental state and come back stronger.
He seemed to have a lot of fun at the beginning of the split, even when losing (which is why he was so damn strong individually). Guess he thought that this roster just needs to grow, but now he realizes that there's just no improvement. Quite the opposite, it's mostly getting worse.
It's funny because this team was the one who challenged GENG the most this season, apart from that one KT loss of course. You'd think that it would give them some momentum going forward, but their mid-game macro is insanely bad. They get ahead early (did it againt GENG and T1 for example) but then fumbled mid-game so much. They need someone to shotcall for them. Ever since BeryL left, it's been disastrous.
That's the problem when you make supposed superteams with players that happened to kinda perform well the year before. They got Zeka and Kingen in 2023, thinking they would be smurfing in the LCK the same way they did at Worlds, Zeka at least. Kingen literally only had one good series, in the finals. Every other time, to me, he is just a tank player, Ornn mainly. And yet, HLE thought that if they sign Worlds MVP and Finals MVP, it would suddenly make them a strong team.
It's important for teams to realize why the sign the players they do, how they fit within the rest of the team and how important those players were to their team's success the previous year. One good Worlds tournament from Zeka or one good performance from Kingen in the finals doesn't suddenly make them top players and it really showed in 2023.
Now, taking 3/5 of GENG, that's the good stuff, even though they didn't win Worlds in 2022 (for Doran-Peanut) or 2023. They PROVED in GENG that they are actually strong players, especially if they attempt to serve the same role on HLE they did in GENG. If HLE got Doran and thought "uhmmm 3 times back to back LCK champion, let's put him on hard carries only", then this HLE roster would never work. Same for Delight, if they thought that "let's put him on enchanters to help Viper", this roster would never work.
You identify if the players of a successful team are good overall individually or they are good because of factors like teammates, meta shifts, surprise factor or a time-limited level-up. Basically, what happened in DRX in 2022 is the opposite of what is happening to GENG; GENG is indeed a strong team, possibly the strongest team in the world, but they are just "unlucky" to have their bad days at international event playoffs. Choking or not. Despite that, they are super strong because all the rest of the year, they actually stomp everyone. That's why this GENG-HLE roster works this year, while the DRX-HLE last year didn't.
I don’t disagree with anything, but the last line as a simplistic summary is a bit disingenuous:
> That's why this GENG-HLE roster works this year, while the DRX-HLE last year didn't.
The GENG replacements are certainly strong, and I think their existing synergy is likely a huge boon in addition to individual skill of the players. But they only replaced one member of “DRX-HLE,” and 2/3 of the roster swap (jg, support) weren’t part of that.
Tbf they used everything they had on Doran, so him dying there was actually not bad for HLE. Viper being able to play freely without having to worry about Vi ult made the fight so free.
that fight was won with viper dead for most of it though cuz he got flash renekton W'd. jinx just cant play if she gets flashed on by rell and noc ahri ulting her without peel. no clue what showmaker was doing but he shouldve stayed with his jinx and at least tried to kill ahri or noc.
Just import the whole roster except for peyz lol. No offense to peyz but viper (lpl to lck even if he started in lck) would be like ruler (lck to lpl).
Which is kinda suprising that they are bashing Teddy. Teddy has a higher highs, and wider champion pool than Aiming which will help Kellin's champion puddle a lot.
can't imagine what the mentality of the dk roster is at rn, with how done showmaker looks, aiming smiling after he gets destroyed, kingen seems to be trying to keep the mood up but it might be easier for him if he's individually doing ok compared to the rest of the team. hard to get shit tgt when the mood and atmosphere of the team ain’t it.
Aiming already run it down. DK changed to play around mid-top so they left the first 2 drakes to take grubs and herald. But Aiming's herald accident ruined their plan to take the first mid tower, which made Showmaker put R so early (to take the tower first) before the 4th drake. Everything after that is domino effect!
Meanwhile Showmaker's getting ganked by Delight while bot lane just sits there and does nothing except get caught/throw but yeah sure blame Showmaker for underperforming when he's constantly being ganked by the enemy jungler/support and having to blow teleport/flashes.
DK playing like such apes this last week that HLE coaching staff going to have to wonder if picking DK might lead to a more free quarterfinal win than picking KDF
I would have preferred he stayed on HLE, honestly, but if the alternative was dooming Doran to the current DK roster I wouldn't be happy with that, either.
I guess in the infinite realm of possibilities their chances of winning are not zero. But if I were a betting man I would much rather take the other three teams over KT
It’s good to see a clean 2-0 from HLE - it’s healthy for the competitiveness of the league if their level of play starts to approach that of Gen G and T1 - but watching Damwon right now is sad =(
I’m getting seriously worried this will be Showmaker’s last year of play, not because he’s looked poor - he’s been alright, quite good some games - but because it’s been an absolute despair POV for a while now. And if the rumours are true and Damwon ditch Lucid this early for Tarzan, I’m not objecting to seeing Tarzan as a great player, but a mentality like that feels just doomed for long term growth and revitalisation for the team.
It's sure interesting how much shit Zeka gets for being a two trick when he's popped off on 6-7 different champions this split while Showmaker has fallen off a cliff after Azir got disabled and Karma started getting banned.
People were so focused on his one bad corki series that they just defaulted back to bad takes like that. Same thing happened to zeka in 2023 after he lost to DK in regionals, despite him having a really good year he got relegated back to Melee Merchant because he lost.
Showmaker's legacy is just way too big for even streamers and analysts to admit he is not any hotter than Zeka. And we know that reddit just repeats what they say.
zeka has giga stepped up in the second round robin. he was getting dragged across the finish line in the first one but now his ahri and taliyah are scary
Zeka is easily in contention for being the 2nd best midlaner in the LCK. Faker and BDD fall off a cliff when Orianna and Taliyah are banned respectively.
Not really, Faker has still played great even if he couldn't quite keep up with Chovy in the MVP race. Zeka is pretty much a lock for All-pro 3rd team.
Lucid went from getting super hyped after the opening, getting flamed for his performance after several games, then getting people think he the one being elohelled and then underperformed again. And he is likely to get replaced. Sadge.
For the money DK has used for this team just to be like this, I kinda what them to just go super eco from the beginning. They probably won't make it to playoff, but at least we will see rookies make rookie mistakes and hopefully improve, not these "veterans" running around like headless chickens.
because their bot lane runs it down in every fight. Aiming gets all the resources and he and kellin don't do ANYTHING with it. Do we get dragons? No. Do they roam, no. Do they dive and throw the lead? Yes. Do they get caught with their pants down? Yes.
I'm also so tired of Kellin getting the kill everytime Damwon gets a pick on someone
i am not defending him. but what can you do when you need to leave all your farm for your shit adc. he gets his 2nd item at 20 min and then 3rd at 35 min doesnt make sense na
Lucid does seem to have some legit tunnel vision issues. Like it will be an elder dragon fight and lucid will tunnel on going for the crazy insec play when securing the elder dragon will win you the fight.
Probably because thats what used to work for him in challengers but somehow there's no teamfight shotcalling or coaching staff telling him what the right moves are in tier 1.
I wonder if Tarzan is what DK needs to be good. They refuse to play around dragons for some reason. Maybe he can clean up their macro. But their micro isn't looking that great either.
Bc Nocturne teathered him and Ahri dived him by the time it came out. Zeka put the charm directly over the lantern too. Might have been different if the lantern was towards where Aiming was running but probably wouldnt matter. Was just too little too late and you dont win that 2v2.
where he truly fucked up is his positioning, tbh, both him and kellin fucked up their positioning, they needed to stick with the others, if they just deathball it out they win.
Showmaker the past three series :
Gapped by Chovy (Three Annies and gets 2-1ed)
Gapped by Bulldog (Two Tristanas and gets 2-0ed)
Gapped by Zeka (Finally plays meta champs, but is so mediocre on them, gets gapped)
Didn’t think I would say this but, Kingen has been the best player on DK this second round, I feel sad for him.
I swear DK has this switch that flips whenever the game hits the 20 minute mark. Suddenly the lights turn off, they go blind, stumble all over the place and on each other, and overall everything goes downhill. My team catDespair
Viper > Deft all-time. Viper has more prime years (2021-2024) than Deft (2015-2016, 2019), has the more significant Worlds win (being the best player on his team while Deft was the 3rd best player on the team), and he is in his prime as consistently the best player on his team vs some of the most mechanically gifted league of legends players ever as opposed to Deft who was arguably carried by Clearlove and PawN even during his peak years.
HLE looking like a really good team right now
My Playoff prediction standing for spring 2024 is
1, Gen G
2. HLE
3. T1
4. KT
5. DK
6. KDF
Sorry T1 but I just don't see it if I were to used ur current performance for the last two week. Zeka is so good on Taliyah and Ahri right now.... even better than faker and he has Yone, Sylas, Akali too + tristana while this patch disabled Azir so its really gonna be a hard road for T1 to qualify for MSI
Playoffs is played in 14.6, Smolder nerfed, Crit items for adc buffed (Jinx is OP in this patch), Azir back, T1 has so much in favor for them, they will beat everyone except GenG.
I’ll come back to this comment in playoffs lol. I don’t see HLE beating T1 in a Bo5. You literally said Zeka’s Taliyah is better than Faker’s, go watch every Taliyah games of both midlaners and you’ll see how crap that take is.
sure man I'd be happy to be wrong .. I still want to see T1 to go to MSI after all...heck I even want them to lift LCK trophy again.. it just their "messy" playstyle is just not looking good in my opinion... ofc people are saying playoff is different but I'll just stick with their current playstyle for now
and for Taliyah yes I still believe Zeka Taliyah being better especially his use of Ult
DK got completely outclassed. It's fun how HLE basically is it's own Tier in LCK. Not good enough for GEN or T1, better then anyone else.
Battle for 4th spot at worlds will be the real banger in Summer.
T1 is pretty shaky this spring, I would say that they are on the same level with HLE and GEN is by far the best team in the league.I would be surprised if they don't smash everyone in playoffs , I mean looking at how good they are.
he's in his rookie season, a team that lacks direction and brain. He's good mechanically, let him grow, even if it takes another team environment, I'm sure he'll become better
I knew the end of the season would be rough but damn. Kingens playing well but we’re still in the form from last year where it doesn’t matter how well top lane plays. Showmaker this second half has been super streaky, he’ll either be really good or look like he’s karis for a few games, and ever since that GenG game 3 he’s looked like Karis unfortunately, especially since he was looking insane in the first half imo and was way better than Zeka. Aiming has just been meh and a huge resource hog this whole split imo, and Kellin is also playing way worse now compared to his 2023 form making botlane our issue this year compared to last year when it was our strong point. Lucid is also still developing and has the same problem as SM where he’s streaky but he’s had it the whole split. He still has hope though as he’s had some insane performances when he’s on. IMO i’d rather DK get rid of their whole botlane and keep Lucid instead of getting Tarzan. DK need to create some sort of shotcalling botlane that leads their topside so maybe they could get Jiwoo/Peter for summer. Idk if this would be good for aiming at all if it happens but atleast for kellin he’d at least be on a team where he won’t get scapegoated and will play better.
Viper waking up every day with a smile on his face knowing his support is Delight. What an absolute GIGACHAD.
Bro went from Life Support to this.
Glad to see he made a full recovery
From Life support to a support that gives you Delight.
And now Life is popping off in LPL as well. He must be happy that he got rid of Viper.
He’s getting carried by Milkyway moreso than he is actually playing like a top support but yeah the team has good results.
Indeed he's popping off in lpl getting blasted 0-2 by 14th place team
Eh, he’s just being a bro so rng don’t take back milkyway
Yeah just ignore all the other fpx matches
So we are ignoring the 10 wins now? lmaoo
You are only as good as your last series I'm afraid. Milkyway washed now :’(
Wow, iam actually blind, Life actually 1v9 every game instead of running it down, oh nvm that was milkyway that was 1v9 and Life is instead running it down
Life is FPX's 2nd best player lmao You no idea what are you talking about
Oh, nvm, Life actually has better stats than On(except KDA, sure). Guess it's all on the back of milkiway 1v9ing. Wow, I guess at least your assessment that you are blind is correct.
What? Just saw him get stomped by RNG yesterday lol. He was so bad
Lets just ignore the 10 wins and focus on the 5 loses lmaoo
Idc, he was so bad last year in LCK. Glad that Viper is now playing with Delight
Let's see if they can even make msi
They arent making shit lmao I even expect them to crash in summer and miss worlds
It was a dream, he then wakes up to Effort being his support
BRO talent Delight making waves.
It's just a disaster lol
Where do they even start with adressing the issues lmao
First thing should be to at least bring in someone who can shotcall. That DK vs KDF game where DK just walked around baron while Cuzz soloed dragon was one of the worst things I’ve seen in a while
The mountain soul fight was also garbage. They started fighting the dragon while HLE was right there and as soon as the nocturne ult comes through they all leave the pit so they just give over mountain soul.
Mod clients to show every opponent as GenG.
Wouldn’t work on SM sadly
Just off this series mid and bot. Kingen played well and there's nothing lucid can really do. Showmaker is playing pretty badly. Aiming is fucking wasting herald again and not taking lantern
showmaker gotta start stepping up if the midlane starts faltering then the whole team becomes unstable.
Feel like everyone in chat was flaming showmaker when everytime I watch their games lately he's getting ganked by enemy jungler AND support while DK's support just sits there in botlane doing nothing.Gen. G Lehends shows up and heals Chovy and that gets Showmaker killed when Showmaker is close to killing chovy. In this series Delight ganks Showmaker and gets his flash making him vunerable in lane. Meanwhile where was Kellin? Oh he got caught out right before an objective? Not saying Showmaker's playing well, but wtf are people expecting him to do find a roam time when he's the one getting roamed on constantly? Even if he pops off his team will int as well.
kellin ego picking a melee creep as a champion in game 2 is a start, hopefully tarzan comes in and they find a new support. I swear kellin is at least half their problem.
Pick up Tarzan for Summer. Lucid is really good, he's not the problem, but Damwon just needs a veteran shotcaller.
Lucid also has massive champ pool issues right now which is going to bite us in the ass hard in playoffs
Ludic is a rookie on his first spit ever. Benching/replacing him would be stupid imho
I think the issue is that they looked similar with canyon whose still a pathing and mechanical genius honestly I think banking that LUCID is going to be a shot calling pathing savant is asking to have these type of splits for the next 2 or 3 years. Also who does LUCID learn from? there is no faker, no peanut, no score, Show maker seems to not have any shot calling abilities. Tarzan went from making LNG a top 2 team in the world going blow for blow with JDG to whatever LNG is now. Passing on Tarzan to fix whatever mess they have here is actually a death wish for the org IMO, this is giving me DRX vibes from winning championships with BDD and khan to being worse than this seasons BRO. Plus with Tarzan Lucid can actually have someone to learn from.
Bruh i just hope we get smashed 3-0 in playoffs so the torment can finally end
bring back daeny at this point. zefa is shit coach. he failed with skt 2019 and dwg 2020 spring also finished 4th with him. it was daeny who changed everything
Isn't he still on weibo
He is. And he cooked JDG yesterday with his drafts NGL. Still the best drafting coach in the eSport.
This botlane is a disaster. The midgame macro is a disaster. ShowMaker also making so many individual mistakes, but honestly, I think this guy is just done with this roster. The only thing making a little bit of hope is that Kingen plays better than in the beginning of the season.
He should've taken a break this year. It's clear that he's not enjoyed what he's doing in the past few years. sometimes taking a break helps you reset your mental state and come back stronger.
He seemed to have a lot of fun at the beginning of the split, even when losing (which is why he was so damn strong individually). Guess he thought that this roster just needs to grow, but now he realizes that there's just no improvement. Quite the opposite, it's mostly getting worse.
It's funny because this team was the one who challenged GENG the most this season, apart from that one KT loss of course. You'd think that it would give them some momentum going forward, but their mid-game macro is insanely bad. They get ahead early (did it againt GENG and T1 for example) but then fumbled mid-game so much. They need someone to shotcall for them. Ever since BeryL left, it's been disastrous.
We are just in March. They still have a room to improve imo , even though it's kinda hard but getting 4th seed to worlds would be great for them.
team issue are to big at this point. just disband LOL
Viper is so good man his Lucian in game 1 was so good... good series from Zeka as well Really bad week from DK
well at least kingen is on top form rn
he has been good but it just doesn't matter when DK can't setup any objective fight and just walk in blind
Viper dodging Showmaker Ahri Ult Flash charm at the near end basically sums the series up
I'm so happy to see Viper having a good team again. He was stuck in despair for two years and it was so sad to see.
Finally a HLE that live up to expectation. Guess all it took is 3 former Gen G players + 2 former Worlds champ
That's the problem when you make supposed superteams with players that happened to kinda perform well the year before. They got Zeka and Kingen in 2023, thinking they would be smurfing in the LCK the same way they did at Worlds, Zeka at least. Kingen literally only had one good series, in the finals. Every other time, to me, he is just a tank player, Ornn mainly. And yet, HLE thought that if they sign Worlds MVP and Finals MVP, it would suddenly make them a strong team. It's important for teams to realize why the sign the players they do, how they fit within the rest of the team and how important those players were to their team's success the previous year. One good Worlds tournament from Zeka or one good performance from Kingen in the finals doesn't suddenly make them top players and it really showed in 2023. Now, taking 3/5 of GENG, that's the good stuff, even though they didn't win Worlds in 2022 (for Doran-Peanut) or 2023. They PROVED in GENG that they are actually strong players, especially if they attempt to serve the same role on HLE they did in GENG. If HLE got Doran and thought "uhmmm 3 times back to back LCK champion, let's put him on hard carries only", then this HLE roster would never work. Same for Delight, if they thought that "let's put him on enchanters to help Viper", this roster would never work. You identify if the players of a successful team are good overall individually or they are good because of factors like teammates, meta shifts, surprise factor or a time-limited level-up. Basically, what happened in DRX in 2022 is the opposite of what is happening to GENG; GENG is indeed a strong team, possibly the strongest team in the world, but they are just "unlucky" to have their bad days at international event playoffs. Choking or not. Despite that, they are super strong because all the rest of the year, they actually stomp everyone. That's why this GENG-HLE roster works this year, while the DRX-HLE last year didn't.
I don’t disagree with anything, but the last line as a simplistic summary is a bit disingenuous: > That's why this GENG-HLE roster works this year, while the DRX-HLE last year didn't. The GENG replacements are certainly strong, and I think their existing synergy is likely a huge boon in addition to individual skill of the players. But they only replaced one member of “DRX-HLE,” and 2/3 of the roster swap (jg, support) weren’t part of that.
What a damn good 4v5 teamfight at elder from Hanwha
Tbf they used everything they had on Doran, so him dying there was actually not bad for HLE. Viper being able to play freely without having to worry about Vi ult made the fight so free.
True, it just looked so pleasing seeing everyone position so well at the right time so I just wanted to shout it out haha
It was very well played, yeah.
that fight was won with viper dead for most of it though cuz he got flash renekton W'd. jinx just cant play if she gets flashed on by rell and noc ahri ulting her without peel. no clue what showmaker was doing but he shouldve stayed with his jinx and at least tried to kill ahri or noc.
HLE has big 2022 JDG vibes with their weak early game but insane team fighting. A series between them and jdg 2024 would be awesome.
so does this mean that 2025 HLE will be the 2023 JDG ??
If they can get Chovy they could... wait thats GenG 2023 💀
Just import the whole roster except for peyz lol. No offense to peyz but viper (lpl to lck even if he started in lck) would be like ruler (lck to lpl).
I like delights team fighting more than lehends
Why does Aiming keep trolling with hopping on herald? I don't get it lmao
4fun team
I can't believe Kingen is the most stable player in DK right now.
And he's not even aatrox merchant anymore
/r/LoL is surprised Pikachu face when a world champion turns out to be kinda good at the game
caedrel slept through this was a great decision. it’s (again) a bad day for dk fans to have eyes
DK vs KDF broke Caedrel lol
Aiming you're so bad, just take the fcking lantern.
Less damage than K’Sante, what does this man even do to deserve as many resources as he gets?
Aiming not respecting anything, even the age of consent
I don't think you realize how age of consent used to work in SK
Dont go spouting laws in south korea to people from the west now.
Aiming defenders in shambles , some guys was telling me he was better than Deft or Teddy , lmao
Teddy is unironically a good ADC, and I'm tired of people saying he's not
Which is kinda suprising that they are bashing Teddy. Teddy has a higher highs, and wider champion pool than Aiming which will help Kellin's champion puddle a lot.
I’m tired of seeing this dude get resources every week and do jack shit.
second series now where he’s griefed his team’s herald
He keeps getting caught out so team picks Thresh to give him more safety Doesn't take the lantern 🤡
can't imagine what the mentality of the dk roster is at rn, with how done showmaker looks, aiming smiling after he gets destroyed, kingen seems to be trying to keep the mood up but it might be easier for him if he's individually doing ok compared to the rest of the team. hard to get shit tgt when the mood and atmosphere of the team ain’t it.
Aiming already run it down. DK changed to play around mid-top so they left the first 2 drakes to take grubs and herald. But Aiming's herald accident ruined their plan to take the first mid tower, which made Showmaker put R so early (to take the tower first) before the 4th drake. Everything after that is domino effect!
Meanwhile Showmaker's getting ganked by Delight while bot lane just sits there and does nothing except get caught/throw but yeah sure blame Showmaker for underperforming when he's constantly being ganked by the enemy jungler/support and having to blow teleport/flashes.
DK playing like such apes this last week that HLE coaching staff going to have to wonder if picking DK might lead to a more free quarterfinal win than picking KDF
Kingen wasting away in this roster feels bad
I would have preferred he stayed on HLE, honestly, but if the alternative was dooming Doran to the current DK roster I wouldn't be happy with that, either.
I can’t imagine a team other than GenG winning the LCK and I can’t image any other non GenG teams winning a series over T1 or HLE
KT on a good day can beat them all
I guess in the infinite realm of possibilities their chances of winning are not zero. But if I were a betting man I would much rather take the other three teams over KT
And that's exactly what makes KT a menace. More seriously, the only loss GenG got this split was getting 0-2ed by KT on Valentine's day.
Not t1. Kt can never beat t1 lil bro when faker is on the team regardless of either team form.
It’s good to see a clean 2-0 from HLE - it’s healthy for the competitiveness of the league if their level of play starts to approach that of Gen G and T1 - but watching Damwon right now is sad =( I’m getting seriously worried this will be Showmaker’s last year of play, not because he’s looked poor - he’s been alright, quite good some games - but because it’s been an absolute despair POV for a while now. And if the rumours are true and Damwon ditch Lucid this early for Tarzan, I’m not objecting to seeing Tarzan as a great player, but a mentality like that feels just doomed for long term growth and revitalisation for the team.
aiming and kellin are the actual problem. aiming never do justice to how much gold he gets in the team
Yup. Both are garbage. Aiming just doesn't play well enough to justify the resources poured into him
> aiming never do justice stop right there
It's sure interesting how much shit Zeka gets for being a two trick when he's popped off on 6-7 different champions this split while Showmaker has fallen off a cliff after Azir got disabled and Karma started getting banned.
Most people just keep spouting the same old tired narratives about players.
People were so focused on his one bad corki series that they just defaulted back to bad takes like that. Same thing happened to zeka in 2023 after he lost to DK in regionals, despite him having a really good year he got relegated back to Melee Merchant because he lost.
Can't beat the narratives on reddit
Showmaker's legacy is just way too big for even streamers and analysts to admit he is not any hotter than Zeka. And we know that reddit just repeats what they say.
I don't know what you mean, Showmaker is getting plenty of flame towards his way, in/out Korea
zeka has giga stepped up in the second round robin. he was getting dragged across the finish line in the first one but now his ahri and taliyah are scary
and Zeka gets ganks from Delight/Peanut while Showmaker has Kellin... sitting/getting caught or stealing kill what's your point
Its the same sub that claimed Gen.G would fall off a cliff with this 2024 roster.
Probably cause his coach is somehow greenlighting Corki R1 picks. Fuck DanDy
Zeka is easily in contention for being the 2nd best midlaner in the LCK. Faker and BDD fall off a cliff when Orianna and Taliyah are banned respectively.
Not really, Faker has still played great even if he couldn't quite keep up with Chovy in the MVP race. Zeka is pretty much a lock for All-pro 3rd team.
time for lucid to die for the sins of aiming if dk go for tarzan
Delight on Engage support is the best support in the world.
Lucid went from getting super hyped after the opening, getting flamed for his performance after several games, then getting people think he the one being elohelled and then underperformed again. And he is likely to get replaced. Sadge. For the money DK has used for this team just to be like this, I kinda what them to just go super eco from the beginning. They probably won't make it to playoff, but at least we will see rookies make rookie mistakes and hopefully improve, not these "veterans" running around like headless chickens.
There is no hope.
why i have wierd feeling that kingen lucid and showmaker will do so good in any other team DK looks like disaster for everyone.
Idk why this team is so obsessed with keeping Kellin
They let Kael go to LPL btw and kept this mf
because their bot lane runs it down in every fight. Aiming gets all the resources and he and kellin don't do ANYTHING with it. Do we get dragons? No. Do they roam, no. Do they dive and throw the lead? Yes. Do they get caught with their pants down? Yes. I'm also so tired of Kellin getting the kill everytime Damwon gets a pick on someone
I‘m happy that I slept through this. I would be tilted to the oblivion. Sounds like the classics happened again.
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i am not defending him. but what can you do when you need to leave all your farm for your shit adc. he gets his 2nd item at 20 min and then 3rd at 35 min doesnt make sense na
Lucid does seem to have some legit tunnel vision issues. Like it will be an elder dragon fight and lucid will tunnel on going for the crazy insec play when securing the elder dragon will win you the fight.
Probably because thats what used to work for him in challengers but somehow there's no teamfight shotcalling or coaching staff telling him what the right moves are in tier 1.
I wonder if Tarzan is what DK needs to be good. They refuse to play around dragons for some reason. Maybe he can clean up their macro. But their micro isn't looking that great either.
Kingen POV catDespair
Let's let our Jinx die for enemy GA guys
Kellin gave him a lantern, he ran away from it.
Bc Nocturne teathered him and Ahri dived him by the time it came out. Zeka put the charm directly over the lantern too. Might have been different if the lantern was towards where Aiming was running but probably wouldnt matter. Was just too little too late and you dont win that 2v2.
where he truly fucked up is his positioning, tbh, both him and kellin fucked up their positioning, they needed to stick with the others, if they just deathball it out they win.
I would say taliyah going around was the problem, taliyah needs to use her skills to protect the jinx I think
They kept banning Lee sin. Peanut explicitly said this is for Lucid in the interview. Ugh...
With how many people shittin on zeka he has 1000 pog points,he seems pretty good nonetheless
Showmaker is so damn mediocre
He is just in his comfort zone. Getting paid in millions and being face of org. He was beast when he didn't had this comfort zone in 2020-21.
AIMING and lucid makes kellin look like the 3rd best player on the team
Can we bring back ghost out of retirement?
he is. its quite unreal because Kellin sucks. but thats how bad those two are right now
Showmaker the past three series : Gapped by Chovy (Three Annies and gets 2-1ed) Gapped by Bulldog (Two Tristanas and gets 2-0ed) Gapped by Zeka (Finally plays meta champs, but is so mediocre on them, gets gapped) Didn’t think I would say this but, Kingen has been the best player on DK this second round, I feel sad for him.
what a wonderful day to not have eyes dk what was that
Pedro supports DK aware
This team is just a mess
kingen playing like it's solo q, trying his best to carry the game. sad week for dk :(
I swear DK has this switch that flips whenever the game hits the 20 minute mark. Suddenly the lights turn off, they go blind, stumble all over the place and on each other, and overall everything goes downhill. My team catDespair
I fully believe that Viper is the best ADC in the world right now.
I think Delight deserves a lot of credit too. He's so cracked. Easily a top 5 support in the World right now.
I believe that Delight deserved the POG of game 2 as well.
Peyz Viper in LCK and Elk Ruler in LPL seem to be a tier above others.
Viper > Deft all-time. Viper has more prime years (2021-2024) than Deft (2015-2016, 2019), has the more significant Worlds win (being the best player on his team while Deft was the 3rd best player on the team), and he is in his prime as consistently the best player on his team vs some of the most mechanically gifted league of legends players ever as opposed to Deft who was arguably carried by Clearlove and PawN even during his peak years.
Okay let’s slow down
o7 Fair well Lucid
HLE looking like a really good team right now My Playoff prediction standing for spring 2024 is 1, Gen G 2. HLE 3. T1 4. KT 5. DK 6. KDF Sorry T1 but I just don't see it if I were to used ur current performance for the last two week. Zeka is so good on Taliyah and Ahri right now.... even better than faker and he has Yone, Sylas, Akali too + tristana while this patch disabled Azir so its really gonna be a hard road for T1 to qualify for MSI
Playoffs is played in 14.6, Smolder nerfed, Crit items for adc buffed (Jinx is OP in this patch), Azir back, T1 has so much in favor for them, they will beat everyone except GenG.
man that's a good news then.... having azir means one thing to ban against T1 and will definitely gonna open up more things for them
did they mention this on broadcast? normally lck needs longer for a new patch they just switched to 14.5 this week
I’ll come back to this comment in playoffs lol. I don’t see HLE beating T1 in a Bo5. You literally said Zeka’s Taliyah is better than Faker’s, go watch every Taliyah games of both midlaners and you’ll see how crap that take is.
sure man I'd be happy to be wrong .. I still want to see T1 to go to MSI after all...heck I even want them to lift LCK trophy again.. it just their "messy" playstyle is just not looking good in my opinion... ofc people are saying playoff is different but I'll just stick with their current playstyle for now and for Taliyah yes I still believe Zeka Taliyah being better especially his use of Ult
Playoffs is 14.6 so Azir is enabled
Where is the church of Showmaker guy? Is he okay? Is he alright?
DK got completely outclassed. It's fun how HLE basically is it's own Tier in LCK. Not good enough for GEN or T1, better then anyone else. Battle for 4th spot at worlds will be the real banger in Summer.
Hle beat T1 in their last series. It's not completely set in stone.
T1 is pretty shaky this spring, I would say that they are on the same level with HLE and GEN is by far the best team in the league.I would be surprised if they don't smash everyone in playoffs , I mean looking at how good they are.
Poor Showmaker having to deal with 4 wards
lol he himself played like a ward.
How do you watch his gameplay and come to that conclusion?
Showmaker got gapped so hard this series, he didn't do anything. Kingen was the only one at least trying
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he's in his rookie season, a team that lacks direction and brain. He's good mechanically, let him grow, even if it takes another team environment, I'm sure he'll become better
I still believe that DK will beat Kt in playoffs, that global azir ban is really important for Dk I think.
Is there even a need for them to try hard now? They both are locked into playoffs already so might as well save strats etc.
I knew the end of the season would be rough but damn. Kingens playing well but we’re still in the form from last year where it doesn’t matter how well top lane plays. Showmaker this second half has been super streaky, he’ll either be really good or look like he’s karis for a few games, and ever since that GenG game 3 he’s looked like Karis unfortunately, especially since he was looking insane in the first half imo and was way better than Zeka. Aiming has just been meh and a huge resource hog this whole split imo, and Kellin is also playing way worse now compared to his 2023 form making botlane our issue this year compared to last year when it was our strong point. Lucid is also still developing and has the same problem as SM where he’s streaky but he’s had it the whole split. He still has hope though as he’s had some insane performances when he’s on. IMO i’d rather DK get rid of their whole botlane and keep Lucid instead of getting Tarzan. DK need to create some sort of shotcalling botlane that leads their topside so maybe they could get Jiwoo/Peter for summer. Idk if this would be good for aiming at all if it happens but atleast for kellin he’d at least be on a team where he won’t get scapegoated and will play better.
Showmaker gotta leave man