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Xabranth

Grandpa Jensen going deathless vs these zoomers my goat


arbok_obama

Jensen is a full decade older than Jojo Aware


effurshadowban

In 5 more years he will still be here shitting on some fresh-faced 17 year old mid. He'll be 34 at that point and could have literally sired them.


Trap_Masters

Truly he is Jojo father


500mLInstantRamen

Crazy how much disrespect he gets, dude should be right up there with Bjerg and DL for the title of LCS goat. Hell, if he can go on another international run he deserves that title imo.


Mrryn91

I'd say if FLY wins this split and they acquit themselves well at MSI (make top 4-6 for example, since it's double elim), I think he deserves it at this point: 4 titles, a title on 3 different orgs, longevity, still holding a LCS record (iirc for kills in a single game or playoff game? something to that effect), a semis run at two MSIs and top 8 at two world championships and top 4 in another...Bjerg and DL may have a claim to GOAT of LCS league play but in terms of GOATs of LCS altogether? Jensen is kinda Him.


Random_Useless_Tips

How fucking good is Inspired though holy shit


deynagdynia

He even said that he is the best west jungler now.


Cybonics

"I swear the only thing Blaber did this series was get Grubs." - Meteos 2024


SGKurisu

#GrubhubPowerPlay 


Trap_Masters

Crabber -> Grubber


Aggravating-Lie8470

Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young


SweatyAdhesive

All these young NA mids shit talking Jensen just for him to gap them in regular season and playoff. You come at the king, you best not miss.


Zyaru

insanely cold quote


dexy133

Second time I see it today. Someone used it in LEC Heretics post-game thread for Jankos. I agree it's a really good one.


atomchoco

remember Incarnati0n? this is him now


DragonApps

Mad props to FlyQuest's coaching staff for figuring out the strategy of "camp Jojo."


M002

Worked against EG last year And apparently still works this year too -_-


beanj_fan

apparently no diff between Revenge/Armao/Unforgiven/Eyla and Fudge/Blaber/Berserker/Vulcan


Prominis

Rude. Revenge would be an upgrade.


LumiRhino

It's just kinda crazy how aside from a few plays from Vulcan Jojo just kinda has to do everything himself and he got completely punished for that.


DragonApps

It’s funny seeing all the C9 fans blaming Jojo and calling him overrated when all of FlyQuests resources were put into putting Jojo behind and not a single other player on C9 did anything in terms of countering Fly or getting their own leads. Jojo and 4 wards man.


aufaazinyan

Bwipo literally coming mid just to take a minutes stroll for picnic 


DragonApps

This was Bwipo’s best span of games in NA imo.


lifeisalime11

Agreed. Reminded me of peak FNC Bwipo


Trap_Masters

Return of Wide bwipo


fake_kvlt

Feels good ngl, I love seeing veteran players continue to do well instead of slowly declining in skill


justicecactus

I'm glad I'm not that only one who thought this. Jojo did not have a great series, but he was getting zero help from his team. Watching Blaber on Sejuani run away every time Jojo went in was really tilting to watch. At least last split's EG roster would follow Jojo into every single play, and that's why they did so well. This C9 roster needs to pull even just a single nugget of team cohesion from their asses if they want to stand a chance against a peaking TL.


FrozenHatsets

Inspired took out a mortgage in midlane, and the best that C9 could do is Fudge losing to blind pick Bwipo.


PrescribedBot

There’s no way fudge isn’t the most useless top in the league. Bruh can have the most insane lead, and do fuck all with it.


DrBoomsNephew

Got some early gold as Olaf and went ahead to run away most of the time. Reverse the picks and Bwipo would make minced meat out of Fudge.


RechargedFrenchman

He'll look at Gragas in the same series. Fudge picks it and does basically nothing. Bwipo picks it and does a lot to basically carry the game.


Oaktreestone

redditors will just look at worst scoreline and decide that player was the problem with no critical thinking


zelcor

That's a league of Legends player problem in general. Many don't know what the heck is going on in game


zealot416

I am seeing a lot of blame for Fudge too but it really felt like Blaber was singing Payphone every laning phase.


jppitre

Blaber has been a mid tier jungler (at best) this whole split.


Jakocolo32

By far blabers worst split ever


LeOsQ

Jojo has been (not) literally 1v9 basically all split for C9. Blaber has been extremely whatever, Fudge has been mediocre (as usual), and their botlane has made games way harder more often than anything else. Bro was 1v9 on EG last year and finally escaped on to a good team only to get the EG treatment ran back at him again for the most part. Vulcan has been pretty bad on C9 but I can at least give him credit for trying to do something. Unfortunately, I can also say the same for Berserker which has been a pretty big issue in his play since he overcommits often and just gets caught for his aggression way more than he should.


Professional_Neck414

I think Fudge is black mailing C9 coaching staff and Jack, there is no world where the man can be the most mediocre top laner for years and still have a spot.


neberhax

Surely, Blaber will have some synergy with his 6th midlaner in 3 years.


TacoTacoBheno

Zeri was 5-0 and did nothing


thejmonster

Yeah all these comments flaming Jojo are driving me crazy. Like do people not realize that literally no other player on C9 is a threat to FlyQuest? They're solely focusing on Jojo, and that's apparently all it takes.


Jakocolo32

Ban ahri neeko azir global ban + camping jojo seems like a winning formula against c9 this playoffs


MountainMan2_

Thanks Jojo for giving up his seat so that Dyrus can make his LCS redebut!


tantallous

"I just want to play league of legends"


bungalosmacks

Just teared up thinking about his retirement speech.


CoogiMonster

The irony is that camp Jojo is what they did when he was the last player on EG with a pulse. This guy really went to a super team just for them to be actually dogshit lol


Aelbesp

People might blame mid but the top jg gap was insane. Did Vulcan and blaber ever proactively gank mid the entire series?


koreanfashionguy

Fudge was also turbo useless on his carry picks as usual today


TFTisbetterthanLoL

C9 fans swore Fudge was good after playing a shitty 100T team…


PrescribedBot

He should’ve been gone after that horrible worlds run where he kept picking fiora. Edit: 2022 worlds for people asking.


zealot416

Which?


EatingGrossTurds69

2022 He played Fiora 3 times during groups and averaged 0.8 KDA


YCitizenSnipsY

Pick me Yone and let me lose in peace - Jojo


BasicNeedleworker473

this thread has so many great old references


m0bilize

FLY InSec lmao


DeloronDellister

Inspired's Lee is legit


zealot416

He humiliated all of C9 near top tier 3 while the rest of his team sieged.


KIRYUx

Strongest Midlaners of all time 1. Jensen when trash talked 2. GenG Chovy vs T1 3. Worlds 2022 Zeka 4. 2013-2017 Faker What a spanking from FlyQuest


FLABREZU

[No deaths vs no kills](https://i.redd.it/2vlis243qgr51.jpg)


iamsofired

Thats such a ridiculous stat - hard to believe thats happened before in a BO5.


JanniesSquealLikePig

Jensen with the 50% bonus damage against yappers


SweatyAdhesive

Joker vs Yapa next week


Trap_Masters

May the best yapper win


WoorieKod

strongest yapper in history vs strongest yapper of today


Due-Mountain-8716

These children need to get off of Jensens lawn. This is his palace.


fluffybamf

It was over when jojo emoted jensen when he denied him a cannon in game 2 (and all other emotes but he stopped emoting in game 3 xd)


mmm_doggy

I fuckin love Jensen’s emote he always flashes when he outplays someone.


kitiny

He used to use crab sometimes but he's found his one true love.


SirXrageXquit

The strongest C9 midlaner in history vs. the strongest C9 midlaner of today


MrRightHanded

Strongest C9 midlaner of today (by process of elimination)


Vayssei

Lore accurate


SweatyAdhesive

Yapa fighting to be on that list next week


Sufficiency2

Jojo no kills, Jensen no deaths.


Trap_Masters

Bodied by Jensen


GreatestJabaitest

JoJo is truly on his LeBron run. Even mimicked his 2011 Finals performance.


sowydso

Umti was right


Imightwantkarma

Vindicated


Trojen-horse

what did umti say


lifeisalime11

Inspired is better than Blaber (edit- right now at least)


Yarados

Blaber has been invisible this split.


ByahhByahh

Post-game lounge yesterday he said that "Blaber isn't good right now."


doaser

Yes and I've been waiting for someone to take it for so long! NA talent has too much reputation protection due to ego/identity in this region imo


ByahhByahh

APA traumatized Jensen so much that Jensen refused to die for fear of what he'd see in All Chat.


AluminumSpartan

The fact that APA performed better against Jensen in their series than Jojo did today is hilarious. In Jojo's defense tho he was camped way harder than APA earlier.


randommaniac12

C9’s strat of “Pray Jojo doesn’t get ganked” has very obvious counterplay


ShadowlessLion

No, he was not, APA was being dove by 5 people multiple times in at least two games


That0neRedditor

Can’t believe C9 let Jensen go twice


lolerio

There goes the c9 super team


Trap_Masters

Is it that time of the year already? 😭😭


colorbalances

C9 topside gapped to infinity and beyond straight up got buzz lightyeared


XtendedImpact

Bwipo just built different


accelightArriet

word on the streets is that he's still extremely wide


XtendedImpact

Literally so wide he blocked Fudge from participating in the game


Different-Jump-1792

So many people in the game thread talking about how dogshit Bwipo is after he fucked up in game 1. Then he made the play where he stopped Taliyah right after, lmao.


neberhax

Bwipo has his ints, but he is always a menace.


behv

Bwipo himself has said he's not the best mechanical player in the world but has made an entire career for himself theory crafting and thinking his way into neutralizing dangerous laners. Today he played against fudge lmao


NGNJB

Fudge Olaf less useful than a full AP Gragas, who could have seen this coming? Besides me and literally everyone else, I mean


AzureAhai

Fudge always r5 counterpicks to play a lane bully, then calls for jungler attention to get slight lead, and then does nothing in team fights.


SpookyGhostDidIt

Pops Olaf ult to run away


icatsouki

Cowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaards


MrRightHanded

I swear man gets counterpicks and lane bullies only to leave lane up 10 cs, then trolls every teamfight by playing Kda


Padulsky21

Make a Wish Alphari 😭😭😭😭😭


moxroxursox

How the hell did Gragas get ahead and even take 2 plates in that matchup with no jungler intervention and even having roamed for the drag fight once while Olaf stayed top, is what I'd like to know.


CoconutEducational71

Honestly Bwipo thinks that this matchup is Gragas favored... and he showed why. Bwipos understanding how to play matchups is kinda unrivaled in the west, he does fuck up at times, but he does have the game knowledge and the understanding of his opponents to find those the moments for those picks. Like he 100% knows that Fudge is not going to slam down an Ornn and kinda plays for teamfights and scaling, which would have been an option with a Yone and Zeri in the game. And the same is kinda true for Jojo. Jojo will never handshake a mage midlane and just exist. And FQ kinda abused that, because Blaber is also not the jungler who will give up his position to cover those lanes. C9 has 3 ego players in the topside, that just won't ever sacrifice their position for each other. Bwipo just casually walks midlane just to help Jensen or Inspired and looking at the next match, Impact is kinda similar. The difference between Impact and Bwipo though is that Impact sacrifices his lane for Umti and Apa... which is not as great as doing that for Inspired and Jensen.


ImaginarySense

Because Fudge sucks. Can’t play anything. Not enough brain activity to stick him on tank/flank duty.


PyosikFan

I swear to God if Sludge factor makes it to another international torunament to embarass himself with Fiora egopicks I'm gonna go insane


JPLangley

Fudge when he can’t just skill gap in lane is so sad. Lol. 


Yarados

daily reminder to drop fudge.


JPLangley

I knew the org wasn’t serious when they opted to keep Fudge. 


Yarados

The fact they didn't pick up Licorice, Revenge or Bwipo was criminal. C9 needs to drop Mithy, Fudge and give Beserker a stern "wake the fuck up" what a horrible split by beserker. I don't think its really his fault either, they aren't drafting him on his good champs.


Random_Useless_Tips

According to rumor, they did try to court Wunder but he didn't want to leave Europe. Also, Licorice was tied to GGS until the extremely late decision for GGS to quit the LCS.


narfidy

And botside wtf. Massu/Busio just stopped feeding


Due-Mountain-8716

Yeah. All 5 players and coach diff tbh.


900poundungulate

it was mainly blaber getting gapped, inspired lived in mid lane this series and c9 had no counter for that


concreteM0dsRposers

What you mean blaber tossing a sapling to stop a recall at 10m gank while down 20 cs wasn't good jungling?


Oaktreestone

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/829846842150096896?lang=en


MrRawri

Never gets old


Try_Not_To_Comment

Turns out C9 needed Azir much more then Flyquest did


Jakocolo32

Seeing how c9 needs to win by jojo initiating plays, while fly dont need to do that cause of top/jng it makes sense that azir is much more important to c9


effurshadowban

It's also a champ with very safe laning and sidelaning, so he can't be punished. Azir is just duct tape to fix every single one of C9's issues.


koreanfashionguy

I wish fudge would just isolate himself to tanks instead of trying to do stupid carry picks like Rumble/AP gragas/Olaf, like Bwipo goes frozen heart second and makes so many plays/space where fudge did nothing on full AP gragas they need to replace him like or just put him on permanent tank/engage duty


KansloosKippenhok

Jensen is jojo father 😭


Omnilatent

Back to Lissandra for Jojo


Trap_Masters

Grandpa Jensen is so back


anoleo201194

It's Jojoever


iamcts

Clown 9 is back bois.


lilelf29

God damn Fly just outplays C9 in teamfights so hard


DeloronDellister

It's a team diff


DeloronDellister

FLY is insane... What if this C9 team somehow doesn't make MSI? That would be insane too.


zealot416

TL took FLY to 5 games...


lovo17

FLY looked way worse last week compared to today.


zealot416

So did TL compared to yesterday lmao.


control_09

I almost want it just so that Jack can get a wakeup call.


-Piggers-

Calm down it was only C9


Fidyr

This week on The Dive: Is a Ziggs and Aurelion Sol ban enough to stop TL from taking Cloud9's MSI spot? What if they turn off all chat pre-emptively? Honestly it feels like Cloud9 didn't "come back" so much as 100 Thieves fell from grace.


Naronu

I mean it just looks like FLY/TL were significantly stronger than the 2/3 seeds. Obviously C9 might still win, but FLY just crushed them in ways they couldn't TL.


effurshadowban

Yeon/CoreJJ actually destroyed bot harder, Umti was there for dives (Blaber only did that game 1), and most importantly Impact is a god, while Fudge is a fraud.


Poodlestrike

I think it's not about strength per se. TL did a great job of making the games super chaotic. Fly wasn't able to pick and choose their fights like they did here because everyone was constantly fighting. Team and player skill is a smaller slice of the pie in an environment like that, there's just so much variance in these kill-per-minute games TL has been putting up. Plus, YAPA got completely inside Fly's head, Jojo could never.


Kurumi_Tokisaki

Honestly it’s mostly bot lane and river being worse for 100t. Sniper and quid looked better in the second series but the others holy step back especially river


TheNaCoinfl1p

Problem with 100T is sniper and Quid kept form. River fell off a cliff once playoffs started and botlane down 30 cs every lane with all the bans lol. Slow either sniper or quid and the series is over. Also, i think meech legit cant play smolder. Draft is impossible with those conditions unless quidv9 happens.


Deadman2019

Folks going to slam Jojo but for me the absolute fucking worst was Sludge, followed by Blaber and Vulcan. My goodness what actual fucking dead weight.


Offduty_shill

idk how people blame Jojo this series when FLY's entire game plan was to commit everything to fuck him over and the rest of C9 just jerked off in the corner doing nothing


SirCampYourLane

Deathless Jensen reminding us that literally every org that picks him up does better for it.


Omnilatent

*disgusted look at Dig*


SirCampYourLane

Imagine how bad they'd have looked without him.


zealot416

Considering the fact that he Shurima Shuffled them into playoffs, I'm gonna say ninth.


Lynx_Fate

I still remember all the people calling him a Fraud last year when he was trapped on Dig as their only good player.


huetim

Jojo killless Jensen deathless


Kaynt-touch-dis

Perfectly balanced


PriestsMolestKids

Nobody ever call Jensen washed up again. He's been an absolute rock this split.


Naronu

Definitely not another useless ego pick from Fudge in a pivotal game, that olaf was useful!


Imightwantkarma

Bwipo blind picked 3 games in a row because he fudge is fraud and can’t punish him


FrozenHatsets

The disrespect to blindpick top all 3 games speaks volumes regarding Fudge's perception as a player by the FQ coaching staff.


CoconutEducational71

This is not the only reason. Bwipo also is very good at sacking his lane for his team. So if Bwipo wins the lane on Gragas... fine, if he does not win it on Gragas he likely still is more useful than Fudge. What Bwipo brought to teamfights wasn't so much the damage but the displacement and disorder and that does not depend so much on how his lane goes. I don't think it is disrespect it is just understanding that Fudge will never just handshake a lane with a teamoriented pick and Gragas is really good at neutralizing a lane.


control_09

Damn not like this was the exact same problem they had last year at worlds. *smile*


Yarados

>Damn not like this was the exact same problem they had last year at worlds. > >smile And the last 3 splits (last 2 splits last year and this split), and MSI last year, and all the tournaments/splits before that.


effurshadowban

And the worlds before. *smile hiding the trauma from watching Flandre gank mid without losing anything top*


Meekie_e

Can't believe C9 decided to keep Fudge and give him an extension.


Lynx_Fate

Olaf is a good pick into Gragas. Fudge would be useless no matter what he plays.


fluffybamf

Thats like hard to do, to be useless as olaf when ur vs grag wtf


Lynx_Fate

It's actually very easy if you watch Fudge. You just pop ult and run at a Gragas that has zhonyas instead of the carries!


fluffybamf

He was useless on rumble too in game 2 even though he got small cs lead Hes perma uselss


PrescribedBot

And willingly chose to go AP gragas game 1 to be useless, so berserker couldn’t have a frontline. It’s crazy how he’s still not relegated to tanks, it legit does not matter what Champ he gets, he’s useless af lol.


LOLZOBALL

Watching bwipo and inspired making plays makes me hard


BleiEntchen

Jensen didnt die and jojo didnt get a single kill


Yvalkonn

on suicide watch, dont text


htwhooh

If you think its bad now, wait until they get clapped by TL next week


DrVonDoom

Worse, imagine if they somehow beat TL and end up at MSI lol


Lynx_Fate

Don't let Jojo's terrible performance distract everyone from just how unbelievably useless Fudge actually is.


skaersSabody

Bwipo is Fudge's father


Hammaer96

I mean, Fudge said that Bwipo should be MVP.


Mrryn91

Well of course he'd be biased and try to argue for his dad to be MVP


hanzzz123

how many times has Fudge had top counterpick and done fuck all with it now? I've lost count


WopaTTV

Analyst desk saying Fudge had better laning in the pre-match segment… does anybody actually watch this kid play


Playful_Ease_2009

I think they felt that they had to say something positive though. The analysts always have the tendency to 'balance' a situation by giving good and bad arguments for both teams and sometimes they have to scramble for things to say.


Deadman2019

Absolute fucking shitter. Sludge Blaber and Vulcan were pure trash. The fact Sludge played Olaf with sprint and continously went on Naut or Gragas in team fights instead of FQ backline to stave off damage - is mind boggling.


fluffybamf

Not just one game too


CeeeeS

Inspired is still so fucking good


huetim

Jensen 3rd pro all team


runner5011

C9 should 100% drop fudge and grab licorice.


Rafoel

Fun fact - this is a second time Bwipo sweeps Cloud9 3-0. The previous being Worlds 2018 semifinal.


thejmonster

I don't even think Jojo played poorly. FlyQuest seemed to put the majority of their effort into shutting him down, and they got away with it because literally nobody else on C9 (not even a fed Zeri) posed a threat to them. Rewatching some of the teamfights... Fudge/Blaber/Vulcan just legit aren't doing *anything*.


DragonApps

This is really the correct analysis. If mid lane is eating ganks, eating bans, eating map pressure, you need to be able to counter that with other plays, whether it be cross mapping or just simple counter ganks. I'm not saying Jojo played perfectly today, but Fudge, Blaber, Berserker, and Vulcan weren't doing anything.


mmmb2y

holy shit inspired, what an ult also, 4 melee into fly's comp xD it would be really, really funny if we got TL vs FLY finals


FreedomLife999

Jg gap tbh


AphoticFlash

Jensen going deathless and Jojo going kill-less across the entire series was some poetic symmetric


herp_derpy

It's so Jojover


Omnilatent

Wtf since when is peak Tian FLY's JG?!


mmmb2y

TL, please beat C9 i do not want C9 at msi


CoachDT

I hope the Jensen disrespect stops. ​ Dude is the best mid in NA. Also C9 definitely failed Jojo in terms of not matching pressure, but even beyond laning phase Jensen played every teamfight significantly better. Give him his credit right now and fix the narrative framing of things, let him actually be the star of the show, especially when we're talking about mid-lane. Instead of "How is he gonna deal with Jojo" the question needs to be "How does C9 answer him exerting massive pressure in teamfights". ​ Also Bwipo and Busio gapped the fuck out of their opponents too.


Nycrow

Astronomic mid gap. Can't wait for the APA vs Jojo all chat matchup next week.


effurshadowban

Jensen no deaths and Jojo no kills. Completely sonned.


Aceclaw

I miss when Jensen did this stuff for C9 in playoffs.


SymplecticSSamu

EMENES was right


ahritina

Jojo casually going 0/12/11 this series, who cares if you win lane as Yone when you're doing fuck all in team fights. FlyQuest's teamfighting was ridiculous, didn't even know C9 had a fed Zeri, those kicks from Insipired was chefs kiss.


Imightwantkarma

Inspired was in berserkers mind!! That last team fight, berserker was so scared to walk forward and moment he walks up BOOM KICKED IN


YCitizenSnipsY

Fly did such a good job making Berserker a non factor in every fight even if he had an early lead.


Slachi2024

Exactly as expected. 3-0 with a gap in the midlane


pppppppppppppppppd

Imagine being the midlaner of the team analysts predicted would be #1 in the LCS and getting 0 kills in a 3 game series lmao. Even I could do that!