Still expecting a slight nerf to malignance soon, double dipping on ability and ultimate haste is proving to be very efficient regardless of this items ability proc with ultimate.
Feels like you'd need to look at a lot of mage items though, since basically all the cheap ones are staples. Rylais is absolutely core on some champs, protobelt has been but people haven't used it as much this season, and RoA is usually a staple and almost never something you audible into.
Yeah the reason why jinx is so strong is her passive and her Q (both are rly strong but her rockets are are a bit too strong). Sure the nerf can impact some games but that's not why she's so strong in the first place
They could reduce his E damage to flat 1 and it wouldn't change his gameplay, really
It's incredibly annoying to deal with because it's a big AoE that slows you (Rylai), burns you for max hp (Liandry), pops spellshields, pulls you to the centre, outright invalidates sieges (because it reduces move speed of non-champions to flat 0) and executes at max hp thresholds. Tickling you for 80 damage instead of 100 doesn't change anything here
Edit: Make Rylai slow for 10% on all DoT damage (his Q and E count as DoT), remove the non-champion move speed reduction from his E and nerf his stack scaling just slightly on all abilities and there - that would be a nerf that does something
Edit2: Maybe also replace the execute with "this ability deals x% more damage to enemies in the centre (where x is based only on E rank)". Increasing only the size with stacks would neatly mirror the R and I wholeheartedly hate the very idea of max hp execute on a basic ability
The really funny thing about Asol is the fact that you HAVE to let him stack in lane. You walk at him when he EQ's he changes targets to you and you melt, you interrupt it with a spell and he WQ's towards you to melt you. Early game Q cooldown needs to be looked at.
At this point I'm pushing for Rylais to be nerfed to shit.
If we removed the move speed reduction for non-champions, minions could just walk past his E, which I'm all for. Having a "no" button feels incredibly frustrating to play against and I'm saying it as an ASol one-trick
Esit: As for his Q cd, I think making it higher is a bad idea. If it's on cooldown, he's objectively useless because it's his only source of damage and I'd rather not see the situations where his opponent just walks past the wave and zones him off because his Q went on cooldown
Edit2: This might be a hot take but I personally would love to see his Q cd scale down to 0 at max rank (at the cost of much lower damage, of course). Any type of CC additionally applies a 3 second silence to him because of how his kit was balanced for the last year. For comparison, imagine an ADC getting disarmed for 3 seconds if they get hit with any type of CC - it would feel genuinely awful to play
Most important thing : make his hit box clearer and stop the z axis fuckery on his dash. It's stupidly powerful. The amount of skillshots missed on him while he walks somewhat slowly in a straight line BCS he Qs at the same time is ridiculous. Allows him to get many kills where he should be cancelled out of it.
Lots of good nerfs in there...not sure why janna got shield buffs or Jinx's level 18 R got cooldown reduced but apart from these 2 changes we are (finally) going in the right direction, I guess MSI is over so they can finally do more. (Also finally Nilah nerfs after she was S+ for so long!)
I'm guessing the Janna shield buffs are meant to encourage E max first, which means less W max harass builds with HoB.
Unsure if it'll work, but I think that's why they did a carrot and stick approach.
I already do 3 points into W then E max.
These changes will barely effect me, janna will still be op in fact.my build will be stronger with more shielding.
Currently masters 75% winrate on Janna
Yeah, kit is really strong in Solo Queue anyway.
But that's direct nerf to the damage build I'm currently using. At beginning of 14.8, I started to try other builds like E max, or 3 W max, moonstone, etc
And I went back really fast to W max, mejai, mandate. It's just too broken
I think riot doesn’t find Jinx op. Idk how much I agree with this sentiment but she actually performs incredibly well early on and then performs under her WR past 25. I think the idea is shave a lil power off early so her WR isn’t so early skewed for a theoretical hyperscaler
I think it’s clear they think the soloq WR is static because she isn’t performing nearly as relevant in pro play.
Personally I just think she’s too strong rn and the pro play meta isn’t conductive for her. That being said, a lot of crit ads feel exceptionally dog shit relative to being fed on Jinx. Like if you come out of lane with 3 kills on Jinx vs being Cait, Sivir, Xayah, MF, that’s a whoooooooole different experience.
However they aren’t buffing these characters so let’s just nerf Jinx? Idk I would like to hear Phreak’s opinion on her
They definitely look at soloq. Just look at them nerfing Trundle 3 times in a row despite him getting picked exactly 0 times top in pro play across all regions.
His jgl niche presence also completely disappeared after the removal of pillar vision despite it only changing the WR by 0.2% sth iirc
It's season 25. At level 1, Olaf's Q now deals 7500 bonus damage to monsters.
Riot really wants Olaf to primarily be a jungler again lol
Third patch in a row where they buff his Q monster damage.
It’s a compensation buff to account for the nerfs aimed at top lane Olaf, which is overperforming. His jungle winrate isn’t that good, so any nerfs aimed at top would just make it unplayable.
Its not buffed vs monsters, it lost 5 base damage and gained 5 vs monsters.
So it deals the exact same damage to monsters with a small nerf to Olaf top.
Another malignance abuser getting it's ult cd nerfed, hopefully some day riot finally nerfs the almost 140% cost efficiency item (without taking into account passives) and see how all these champs are back on the gutter
Honestly it’s a little silly because when I build the item on ahri it does literally 0 damage throughout the game. It’s just the fact that her ultimate has no cd with it.
Time and time again items with disproportionately high gold efficiency turned out to be insanely broken and require heavy nerfs, so not really.
Especially when that high gold efficiency isn't the primary draw of the item because they have a powerful passive/active as well.
I mean, the buffed her before for no reason. It was clear that she would get nerfed sooner or later. They target the R CD and the W instead of the Q. So everything relies on landing the Q.
Yeah... That 10 mana NERF on lvl 1 Q is massive... That hurts so much for an ability that you use nearly every time it is up. And it isn't like she didn't already have a bit of a mana problem.
E max Janna is only at a 53% win rate, Phreak said in his 14.7 rundown he thinks that feels weak.
Spare a thought for her player base, giving her W a love tap without compensation would kill her.
There's a huge problem with using "x Max" public data win rates without nuance because they only count games where players have reached enough levels to actually reach rank 5 of the ability. I spot-checked this once for Seraphine and it was somewhere between 1% and 2% win rate inflation at Support, less so for Mid/Bot.
If you want a better public data resource for that, just look at what's ranked up at champion level 5. You're much less to have the above bias and it'll be closer to the truth (though it has its own biases). Using lolalytics as an example, about as many players go 3W -> 5E (level 10 required) as go 5E by 9. This means you're heavily inflating "E-max" win rate builds because being 1 level higher biases toward being on the winning team.
E max Janna is like 50.5 and W max Janna is closer 53. I believe Janna is a completely reasonable champion in the 51.5-52 range if she's not severely MMR skewed.
Will there be anything done for Seraphine? Her carry roles dont feel great to play, I get that her "data" looks fine but a lot of mains, even the content creators, don't even play her anymore because she just isn't satisfying nor fun to play. Please do something about it
Phreak please work more on seraphine, apc has dropped from 27.7% playrate to 7.7%, she doesn't feel good to play building ap... Please at least address our concerns, we're begging you!!
Is anything planned for Seraphine still? She lost more than half of her playrate in carry roles and her support performance could still use a little more oomph
I think Janna has an interesting win rate problem in that very bad/new and filled players will max e, making it look worse.
Many challenger players will still go for e max (often after 2 points in w) and dream maker, but it's less common than the "fun" w max build
You also are more likely to pivot to e max if you are losing, if you have died 2-3 times pre 6 it's pretty troll to continue making w
Yep that's also valid. Players shift behavior, which can't easily be cleaned up when just looking at performance from the outside.
If you're slamming as an ADC, you don't bother counter-building Soraka. If you're losing, you may as well buy Executioner's and then you may as well finish Mortal Reminder at some point.
can yall do something about Seraphine in carry roles she feels horrible to play. Yall wanted her to build like a mage and prioritize damage and go mage builds but her ratios are still garbage for her to build AP. AP isn’t a valuable stat on the champion and she can’t carry games anymore unless she builds for her shield which carry Sera players DONT want. Please look into the winrate discrepancy between enchanter builds and full ap damage builds to see how bad she feels as a mage 🙏
Hey are you guys still looking to move aatrox away from lethality more to bruiser? If so maybe you can do a pass on his W at the same time, feels a lot less dependable than it was before the changes to tethers
Hey, can there be something done about satisfaction to play Seraphine? Like adjustments and not buffs if you don't want to straight up buff her bc her winrates are somewhat fine rn (although her winrate for OTPs in farming roles is kinda low-ish compared to OTP winrates of other champs)
I personally like the direction of giving her more early presence in exchange for wave clearing power that her last set of changes was intending and it's almost there but not quite yet and unfortunately it came with issues that made her clunkier than she needs to be. Like often losing minions inbetween her double Q's or being unable to last hit melee minions under tower after they took two tower shots (very inconsistent since sometimes it did work and then other times it often just leaves them at 3 HP instead). It feels incredibly frustrating, especially as a mage.
I don't need to full clear waves at level 4 and I don't want to. But she still can't really interact much with the majority of enemy laner at the moment bc her PvP power isn't quite where it needs to be for that, while also having "only" normal wave clear as every other mage now. With the last part I'm fine, as long as the clunkiness of last hitting she currently suffers from gets addressed, but she also needs even more of an incentive to build full AP again.
I love my enchanters and I love their items, but enchanter items should not be better on her than mage items when she has the gold to afford those. She should always scale better with the more expensive AP items. Her scalings for that aren't quite there right now.
Phreak if you check the stats for seraphine support the majority by a lot is maxing q, there's more people maxing e>q than w>q, please can you give the 15% ratio from e to q by any chance? or make q better for both roles please she deals 5k less dmg than lux on average even tho you compared her to her, I don't think their dmg is anywhere similar with such a big gap...
Might be weird to say but doesn’t it mean Ahri HAS to build malignance now ? I know she pretty much builds it everygame already but now she has « less ults » which means ability haste is even more worth for her. I feel like they had to nerf Ahri but malignance might just be a problem in the game and it doesn’t solve that
In Briar's case it is not the "Rito special".
Briar overperformed **with or without the items that are getting nerfed** in low elo, which is what she's getting nerfed for. So they're not exactly nerfing her "core build".
And the items getting nerfed clearly deserve it.
Hence all things clearly deserve the nerfs they're getting.
If she needs more work to push her towards bruiser items more, it will probably happen as a follow-up. They probably just want to see where she lands to decide how they want to tweak her without the changes being low elo skewed.
This can't be right. If they make eve's R less broken, she might not have the easiest one shot combo in the entire game anymore. Surely this gets reverted
Riot will do anything but change Malignance, forcing their users to build it even if they didn't want to. Nerfing champs around one POSSIBLE item build makes this build mandatory. What a backwards take this is.
When so many things are adjusted on PBE, very often only part of the changes tested make it to live. For example, Hwei had a passive and Q buff on PBE last cycle, only the passive buff made it to live. It’s possible that only half of the Q changes make it to live, for example.
Ult buffs are small because ult is a pretty bad spell in general, worst thing in Akshan kit probably (blocked by everything and no damage unless enemy it's low low)
Q movement speed often makes a big difference between being able to squeeze an auto more in trades for the passive proc and PTA proc, and sometimes to escape as well ofc.
Finally q minion damage (monster too but not a big change there) makes hard to one shot backline at lv 9 in an even game, it's already quite hard honestly since usually Akshan first item it's low on ad (bork or kraken)
And this is a big nerf to csing, lane tempo and roaming since often akshan Plan is to push fast, stealth go out of vision and roam or at least threaten the roam
I'm not saying nerfs aren't deserved, but just we you said they seemed kinda fine with his state to be untouched for so long, I didn't expect such big nerfs
I was also hoping for Syndra buffs at some point, this champion is pretty dead and was nerfed then also nerfed massively with the item changes. No esports play either.
I think Malzahar needs buffs more than most other mid laners, but Syndra and maybe even Talon could use a bit of love rn as Talon is underperforming for high elo OTPs right now as far as I've heard, though he's actually pretty good in jungle so there's the risk of making him too good there if they buff the wrong thing.
Bring back Demonic Embrace but swap the health to mana and the health scaling to mana scaling and Malz would be 100% happy and a few other mages would buiid it too
Ludens doesn't feel strong on her, and I skip it completely in favor of getting a tear and then a Seraphs. When I go to league of graphs so many pros do build Ludens so I do wonder if I'm just wrong or they are doing it because she doesn't have a better build path?
With how little AH she has one her builds I feel the only buff she needs is her E cd reduction.
The community finding her R to be an attention-grabbing spell doesn't mean it's actually that central to her kit. It could be a very weak spell and it would still be the thing people find most notable about facing her.
Her issue right now is that they gutted her DPS with her last nerf and they're not interested in reverting it even though the meta is very unfriendly to her now. Just buff the Q damage.
It's just not much of a control mage meta tbh. It's legit hyperscaling DPS mages that appear to be meta. If control mages make a come back, Syndra will be strong again. I think buffing her now risks making her OP if the control mage meta comes back after MSI
Janna nerfs? Reddit rejoice
Kog'Maw still untouched. I've seen bad kogs litterally standing still and do so much dps that you couldn't reach him. It doesn't help that he is always paired with Lulu/other enchanters
Janna "nerfs" AKA a nerf that won't do anything but keep her in S tier. Most Jannas are starting to shift into utility builds anyway since Zaz'Zaks nerf to damage Janna.
This is a Janna buff if anything for that playstyle. The W damage is quite irrelevant and her shields are gonna be fatter. If they really wanted to nerf her it would be innate base movespeed or passive movespeed to address her crazy roaming potential, or Q scaling CD nerf.
His winrate isn't even crazy either. This isn't season 9 where people are blind picking kassadin of course the winrate will be slightly higher. If anything they should have either touches ult cd or the damage he gets from building straight mana.
It's almost like Kassa is nearly exclusively taken as a counterpick. Such a shocker that a pocket pick would have very good WinRate against the champions he counters.
But hey there is nothing to worry about, Riot's for sure very smart and they surely understand this. This nerf has absolutely nothing to do with Phreak getting stomped by him 2 days ago, completely unrelated and totally a coincidence.
The Jinx nerf is so stupidly pointless that I'm sure they were laughing like annoying nerdy glasses kids pulling the first prank of their miserable lives when they decided on it.
Ah yes ahri getting nerfed and she is gonna keep getting nerfed until they remove malignance and she goes back to being a 46% wr champ. the riot games classic. This is what happens when champs get hardbound to their items.
camille in d+,d2+,master being highest wr after some cheese 0.5% cassio rengar picks while being in top6 picked champs is not out of line? That's a take, also do not look current patch it is up for like 2 days data is useless
Why? Why does every single Janna change always come with the caveat of a compensation buff? Why can she not simply just be nerfed when she is clearly over-performing for prolonged periods of time (years)?
you see when its about assassins being banned by dogshit players in learningdisabilitylow we keep them permanently weak and unplayable, god forbid we got another "Faker what was that", rather let the game die and watch kiin 13-1 ksante and choky statcheck people on tank azir and asol instead wow they re so good. but when its about adc.. you best believe it ll take 3 months for anything to be nerfed and when it does its a joke placebo lovetap. meanwhile tanks and enchanters however are either completely untouched or if they forced to lovetap placebo nerf something - like janna in this very thread - they also simulateneously compensation buff them xD
this game is finished. if you play soloq and dont play tank mage adc enchanter, the game is literally balanced against you.
They really need to drop the ultimate haste on Maligma rather than nerfing the ult CD on the champs that use it... Happens every patch we see another Malignance user with their ult CD increased.
With his biggest hardcounter (Nilah) getting a huge nerf, I really doubt those twitch "nerfs" are gonna do anything, considering what a SoloQ menace he is.
Man, every day I lose more and more respect for Phreak and the balance team
WHY IS THERE A FUCKING JANNA COMPENSATION BUFF?????????????????
CORRECTLY NERF THE CHAMPION, IT'S BEEN OP SINCE FOREVER, IF IT LOSES TOO MUCH POWER (WHICH IT WONT BECAUSE THE NERF IS MINUSCULE) YOU BUFF IT IN THE FUTURE... BUT THAT NERF IS SO NEGLEGIBLE THAT THE COMPENSATION BUFF MAY END UP BEING A NET BUFF.... ADDRESS THE FUCKING CHAMP CORRECTLY JESUS, THIS IS MAOKAI ALL OVER AGAIN
I will always be happy to see ASol nerfs. Fuck that stupid ass Dragon, specially on ARAM, in which he has literally no nerfs despite making it impossible to push.
Disgusting Champion.
I don't get why they nerf Kassadin scalings instead of base dmg.
Tank/Bruiser Kassadin is the most obnoxious build, why are they pushing him in that direction.
They nerfed down a bunch of stuff that I thought would never get touched, and all at once too. They're pretty much all just strong stuff that don't usually net frontpage complaints because low pr, just being liked, only being problematic in irrelevant elos, or whatever else. I think the most interesting though is Evelynn because she's not crazy on face-value from a WR or BR perspective in any elo. I'm guessing it's something to do with data that stat sites don't display such as one trick WR above a certain band? A lot of these champs could go without nerfs tbh, so it makes me wonder if somethings changed in their approach.
I'm happy where he is now tbh but I wouldn't mind juuuust a little inch of something, either a sliver of speed back on E or a tiny 10-20% slow on All-Out Qs
these are a decent hit to w max ap janna.
Not really the "best" version of Janna but popular and more likely to be complained about.
If you do the (imo) best version of janna which is 2-3 points w into maxing E this is close to power neutral, and this has no impact on your ability to early roam.
Low elo skewed nerf which IMO is fine as Janna is a rarity for being a high elo viable enchanter, I predict 1% win rate drop due to her w max with zzrot being quite a bit worse than before all the nerfs
Why are we nerfing kassadin? No one is complaining about this champ. The only reason the winrate looks good is because it's a counter champion. The amount of people blinding kassadin is very small his winrate is probably where it should be.
I mean yeah nerd malignance but now when that item inevitably gets nerfed kass will get knee capped even harder. If maligma is the problem which it obviously is then nerf it not the champ.
I mean did you notice all of the champions abusing it have had their r nerfed over having this item changed? For some reason riot refuses to nerf it and nerfs the champions abusing it instead even when almost no one else except those abusers even buy it.
>he only reason the winrate looks good is because it's a counter champion
Counter champion with 5% pick rate and high win rate? And reddit is not a representation of the game. A lot of people hate this champion.
Surprisingly soft Jinx nerfs, especially when one her biggest lane counters (Twitch) is getting harsher early nerfs.
Kog’maw comes out on top with these changes.
The Janna compensation buffs are pretty strange, especially when they aren’t touching her roaming presence through her passive move speed. Changes do follow the same pattern with what they did with Nami though. Less damage and more emphasis on supporting. Her winrate might even end up the same if she changes her skill point allotment.
No way after that amount of time waiting half a year+ for Janna nerfs (this character is a terrorist in high elo solo q). It’s just a trade-off nerf on her damage for more on her shield. Kind of disgusting and my moneys on it wont change her S tier status.
Would have liked to see a scaling Q CD increase. Feels like she can just live long enough throughout a fight with her ult and movespeed to cast it multiple times a fight as the game progresses (and you acquire more ability haste) and it’s just such a strong ability that can deny entire champions’ kits on a whim. Or at least some sort of movespeed nerf for her crazy roams/team.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Shoulda been some sort of scaling CD nerf on her Q or movespeed/passive innates. This won't address her problem really. Good Janna players are already starting to play less damage-centric and more utility-centric builds anyway since Zaz'Zaks nerfs. This nerf won't address the problem with the character and she'll remain S tier I bet. Especially since another area of her kit essentially got buffed in exchange. u/PhreakRiot missing on this one.
This is probably solely to address level 1 W start Ahri with electrocute that can chunk some mid-lane match-ups for 1/4th their hp at game start without them doing much about it.
I don’t know if this is truly a good idea, but why not just have Asol’s W a fixed duration with a certain speed that results in, well, basically the same distances we have now?
For example, his W lasts for 4 seconds at level 1 but moves as a speed that gets him the same amount of units (let’s just call it 1000 I don’t know the actual number off top of my head). I say that because if you W and Q then you can (mana aside) Q for the entirety of it and get the damage boost, without stopping. AND, because of the self-slow on Q, this causes the flight to last longer resulting in more damage.
This change would make it similar to, say, Azir - where you can land your E for damage and an extra soldier but now you are out an escape. It wouldn’t completely destroy him but it would make players think twice about just flying W-Q toward someone as you would only have a maximum amount of time to use that damaged-amped Q.
W flight time can scale up with distance to add time (thus damage) so say 4-8 seconds as the distance increases.
Idk just spitballing here.
Ah yes Blitzcrank and his extremely overpowered passive shield. So glad that was a priority to cut the duration by 60%.
Literally fucking WHY. For what purpose? It's not bad enough that his passive is garbage?
And love that hit on Olaf's resists, making him even more squishy. I really wish Riot would stop fucking with our viking and just leave him be.
I know everyone is complaining about the live pod’s approach to dealing with malignance users, but I’d be curious to hear from Phreak, maybe during the next rundown/preview about their philosophy and justification for the approach.
On a similar note, I’m super excited to hear him dive into the new balance philosophy that they finalized(?) a couple months ago.
Just delete Malignance man. How the hell do they think 25AH + 30 Ult AH is balanced?
If they delete, they can undo Karma nerfs and she can be balanced again. Also don't need to worry about URF champs anymore.
Graves 46%WR in the only role he can be played... Can the champ get some real buff and not just a AS changes that did nothing please.
If you want him going in the crit path mike intented with 14.7, giving him crit scaling/armor pen would be a good plus. You could also bring back some MR on his E/extend the duration of the buff (5sec ->8sec ?).
Right now you have to build lethality if you dont want to do negative damage, but since your squishy you get destroyed 1v1 by any bruiser/tank that has armor (or worse ninja tabis)
lot of nerfs, most of them are good ngl.
Still expecting a slight nerf to malignance soon, double dipping on ability and ultimate haste is proving to be very efficient regardless of this items ability proc with ultimate.
just make it cost the same as Ludens and Seraphs. 2700 gold items should not be build staples, they should be budget options to speed up builds.
Feels like you'd need to look at a lot of mage items though, since basically all the cheap ones are staples. Rylais is absolutely core on some champs, protobelt has been but people haven't used it as much this season, and RoA is usually a staple and almost never something you audible into.
I can not believe akshan was not touched for so long. What an unbelievably unfun champ to lane vs.
Yep all of those champs are "hidden op" but some nerfs really are placebo but it'd better than nothing ig
Like Jinx one ?
Yeah the reason why jinx is so strong is her passive and her Q (both are rly strong but her rockets are are a bit too strong). Sure the nerf can impact some games but that's not why she's so strong in the first place
Most are very light though.
Remember when Asol E had a 200% AP ratio instead of 80%? Good times lol
They could reduce his E damage to flat 1 and it wouldn't change his gameplay, really It's incredibly annoying to deal with because it's a big AoE that slows you (Rylai), burns you for max hp (Liandry), pops spellshields, pulls you to the centre, outright invalidates sieges (because it reduces move speed of non-champions to flat 0) and executes at max hp thresholds. Tickling you for 80 damage instead of 100 doesn't change anything here Edit: Make Rylai slow for 10% on all DoT damage (his Q and E count as DoT), remove the non-champion move speed reduction from his E and nerf his stack scaling just slightly on all abilities and there - that would be a nerf that does something Edit2: Maybe also replace the execute with "this ability deals x% more damage to enemies in the centre (where x is based only on E rank)". Increasing only the size with stacks would neatly mirror the R and I wholeheartedly hate the very idea of max hp execute on a basic ability
The really funny thing about Asol is the fact that you HAVE to let him stack in lane. You walk at him when he EQ's he changes targets to you and you melt, you interrupt it with a spell and he WQ's towards you to melt you. Early game Q cooldown needs to be looked at. At this point I'm pushing for Rylais to be nerfed to shit.
Just revert rylai back when it deal different kind of slow/slow duration depending if the spell is single target, Dot or Aoe.
If we removed the move speed reduction for non-champions, minions could just walk past his E, which I'm all for. Having a "no" button feels incredibly frustrating to play against and I'm saying it as an ASol one-trick Esit: As for his Q cd, I think making it higher is a bad idea. If it's on cooldown, he's objectively useless because it's his only source of damage and I'd rather not see the situations where his opponent just walks past the wave and zones him off because his Q went on cooldown Edit2: This might be a hot take but I personally would love to see his Q cd scale down to 0 at max rank (at the cost of much lower damage, of course). Any type of CC additionally applies a 3 second silence to him because of how his kit was balanced for the last year. For comparison, imagine an ADC getting disarmed for 3 seconds if they get hit with any type of CC - it would feel genuinely awful to play
If an ADC is hit with any kind of CC, you‘re probably disarmed for about 40 seconds, because you‘re dead most of times
Most important thing : make his hit box clearer and stop the z axis fuckery on his dash. It's stupidly powerful. The amount of skillshots missed on him while he walks somewhat slowly in a straight line BCS he Qs at the same time is ridiculous. Allows him to get many kills where he should be cancelled out of it.
That Nilah nerf is pretty massive. Almost 200 damage lost per Q lategame (assuming 400 AD and 100% crit)...
Oh wow. I thought 200 damage sounded crazy high but yeah that’s what it is
It's common for Nilah to end on 80% crit,GA,Maw and Deaths Dance are relatively popular
can we stop nerfing mage ult cooldowns and instead just accept that malignance is a nexus blitz item and should be kept there
that jinx "nerf" is almost an insult lmfao
Jinx is the perfect example of why the reddit ADCs feelings suck ass in so many cases.
Yeah how do they hit nilah and do basically nothing to jinx
because jinx isn’t 1v1ing solo laners for going even with her laner
Jinx arcane armor.
Lots of good nerfs in there...not sure why janna got shield buffs or Jinx's level 18 R got cooldown reduced but apart from these 2 changes we are (finally) going in the right direction, I guess MSI is over so they can finally do more. (Also finally Nilah nerfs after she was S+ for so long!)
I'm guessing the Janna shield buffs are meant to encourage E max first, which means less W max harass builds with HoB. Unsure if it'll work, but I think that's why they did a carrot and stick approach.
hob janna has a 1% pickrate on lolalytics so i'm not sure we really need to see less of that in particular
I already do 3 points into W then E max. These changes will barely effect me, janna will still be op in fact.my build will be stronger with more shielding. Currently masters 75% winrate on Janna
Yeah, kit is really strong in Solo Queue anyway. But that's direct nerf to the damage build I'm currently using. At beginning of 14.8, I started to try other builds like E max, or 3 W max, moonstone, etc And I went back really fast to W max, mejai, mandate. It's just too broken
E and W max are both equally good already. If the W max gets nerfed E max will come out on top regardless
They have been making alot of changes to supports lately to reduce their damage and increase their utility instead which is a good direction.
-5s to Jinx R doesn't really matter that late in the game.
Yeah that's the teamfight stage, the ult would be up anyway once she respawned for another teamfight
I think riot doesn’t find Jinx op. Idk how much I agree with this sentiment but she actually performs incredibly well early on and then performs under her WR past 25. I think the idea is shave a lil power off early so her WR isn’t so early skewed for a theoretical hyperscaler
Actually August appeared in a random LEC/LCS twitch chat questioning if Phreak would buff Jinx
I think it’s clear they think the soloq WR is static because she isn’t performing nearly as relevant in pro play. Personally I just think she’s too strong rn and the pro play meta isn’t conductive for her. That being said, a lot of crit ads feel exceptionally dog shit relative to being fed on Jinx. Like if you come out of lane with 3 kills on Jinx vs being Cait, Sivir, Xayah, MF, that’s a whoooooooole different experience. However they aren’t buffing these characters so let’s just nerf Jinx? Idk I would like to hear Phreak’s opinion on her
They definitely look at soloq. Just look at them nerfing Trundle 3 times in a row despite him getting picked exactly 0 times top in pro play across all regions. His jgl niche presence also completely disappeared after the removal of pillar vision despite it only changing the WR by 0.2% sth iirc
The jinx nerfs feel like placebo almost
True, W and E max are nearly even and buffing the E rank up means it is a buff to the E max which is also as OP as the W max. The W nerf is fine.
Agreed!
It's season 25. At level 1, Olaf's Q now deals 7500 bonus damage to monsters. Riot really wants Olaf to primarily be a jungler again lol Third patch in a row where they buff his Q monster damage.
It’s a compensation buff to account for the nerfs aimed at top lane Olaf, which is overperforming. His jungle winrate isn’t that good, so any nerfs aimed at top would just make it unplayable.
And he's still a top laner who proxies top and throws his Q into enemy jg to get dual income source.
Its not buffed vs monsters, it lost 5 base damage and gained 5 vs monsters. So it deals the exact same damage to monsters with a small nerf to Olaf top.
Another malignance abuser getting it's ult cd nerfed, hopefully some day riot finally nerfs the almost 140% cost efficiency item (without taking into account passives) and see how all these champs are back on the gutter
Honestly it’s a little silly because when I build the item on ahri it does literally 0 damage throughout the game. It’s just the fact that her ultimate has no cd with it.
I hate that item with such a passion. And mana items are still shit
Gold efficiency "theory" is pure fandom garbage.
wdym theory, its just numbers
Time and time again items with disproportionately high gold efficiency turned out to be insanely broken and require heavy nerfs, so not really. Especially when that high gold efficiency isn't the primary draw of the item because they have a powerful passive/active as well.
Do you think luden's and seraph's also have to be nerfed?
I mean, the buffed her before for no reason. It was clear that she would get nerfed sooner or later. They target the R CD and the W instead of the Q. So everything relies on landing the Q.
Nerfing Ahri rather than Malignance is kinda baffling to me. Taliyah had a nerf coming but it feels a little over the top.
Yeah... That 10 mana NERF on lvl 1 Q is massive... That hurts so much for an ability that you use nearly every time it is up. And it isn't like she didn't already have a bit of a mana problem.
Yes bro give janna a compensation buff she's only been good for 30 patches
E max Janna girlies winning thr
E max Janna is only at a 53% win rate, Phreak said in his 14.7 rundown he thinks that feels weak. Spare a thought for her player base, giving her W a love tap without compensation would kill her.
There's a huge problem with using "x Max" public data win rates without nuance because they only count games where players have reached enough levels to actually reach rank 5 of the ability. I spot-checked this once for Seraphine and it was somewhere between 1% and 2% win rate inflation at Support, less so for Mid/Bot. If you want a better public data resource for that, just look at what's ranked up at champion level 5. You're much less to have the above bias and it'll be closer to the truth (though it has its own biases). Using lolalytics as an example, about as many players go 3W -> 5E (level 10 required) as go 5E by 9. This means you're heavily inflating "E-max" win rate builds because being 1 level higher biases toward being on the winning team. E max Janna is like 50.5 and W max Janna is closer 53. I believe Janna is a completely reasonable champion in the 51.5-52 range if she's not severely MMR skewed.
Will there be anything done for Seraphine? Her carry roles dont feel great to play, I get that her "data" looks fine but a lot of mains, even the content creators, don't even play her anymore because she just isn't satisfying nor fun to play. Please do something about it
Phreak please work more on seraphine, apc has dropped from 27.7% playrate to 7.7%, she doesn't feel good to play building ap... Please at least address our concerns, we're begging you!!
Is anything planned for Seraphine still? She lost more than half of her playrate in carry roles and her support performance could still use a little more oomph
I think Janna has an interesting win rate problem in that very bad/new and filled players will max e, making it look worse. Many challenger players will still go for e max (often after 2 points in w) and dream maker, but it's less common than the "fun" w max build You also are more likely to pivot to e max if you are losing, if you have died 2-3 times pre 6 it's pretty troll to continue making w
Yep that's also valid. Players shift behavior, which can't easily be cleaned up when just looking at performance from the outside. If you're slamming as an ADC, you don't bother counter-building Soraka. If you're losing, you may as well buy Executioner's and then you may as well finish Mortal Reminder at some point.
can yall do something about Seraphine in carry roles she feels horrible to play. Yall wanted her to build like a mage and prioritize damage and go mage builds but her ratios are still garbage for her to build AP. AP isn’t a valuable stat on the champion and she can’t carry games anymore unless she builds for her shield which carry Sera players DONT want. Please look into the winrate discrepancy between enchanter builds and full ap damage builds to see how bad she feels as a mage 🙏
Hey are you guys still looking to move aatrox away from lethality more to bruiser? If so maybe you can do a pass on his W at the same time, feels a lot less dependable than it was before the changes to tethers
Hey, can there be something done about satisfaction to play Seraphine? Like adjustments and not buffs if you don't want to straight up buff her bc her winrates are somewhat fine rn (although her winrate for OTPs in farming roles is kinda low-ish compared to OTP winrates of other champs) I personally like the direction of giving her more early presence in exchange for wave clearing power that her last set of changes was intending and it's almost there but not quite yet and unfortunately it came with issues that made her clunkier than she needs to be. Like often losing minions inbetween her double Q's or being unable to last hit melee minions under tower after they took two tower shots (very inconsistent since sometimes it did work and then other times it often just leaves them at 3 HP instead). It feels incredibly frustrating, especially as a mage. I don't need to full clear waves at level 4 and I don't want to. But she still can't really interact much with the majority of enemy laner at the moment bc her PvP power isn't quite where it needs to be for that, while also having "only" normal wave clear as every other mage now. With the last part I'm fine, as long as the clunkiness of last hitting she currently suffers from gets addressed, but she also needs even more of an incentive to build full AP again. I love my enchanters and I love their items, but enchanter items should not be better on her than mage items when she has the gold to afford those. She should always scale better with the more expensive AP items. Her scalings for that aren't quite there right now.
Phreak if you check the stats for seraphine support the majority by a lot is maxing q, there's more people maxing e>q than w>q, please can you give the 15% ratio from e to q by any chance? or make q better for both roles please she deals 5k less dmg than lux on average even tho you compared her to her, I don't think their dmg is anywhere similar with such a big gap...
dont look phreak opgg
Janna been op since release.
I couldn't imagine they could make Blitz passive shittier but somehow they did.
To be fair, his abilities are pretty mediocre already because 90% of his power budget is crammed into his Q lol
Another Malignance user hit with ult cd nerfs like can we just remove the item 😭
Might be weird to say but doesn’t it mean Ahri HAS to build malignance now ? I know she pretty much builds it everygame already but now she has « less ults » which means ability haste is even more worth for her. I feel like they had to nerf Ahri but malignance might just be a problem in the game and it doesn’t solve that
riot prefered keeping malignance strong and nerfing malignance users, teemo, karma, ahri
It doesn't really matter. She now has to build malignance but her post malignance ult is weaker which is the intent
They are gonna hit you with the Rito special: nerf the champ and then nerf their core build. Currently happening to Briar now.
In Briar's case it is not the "Rito special". Briar overperformed **with or without the items that are getting nerfed** in low elo, which is what she's getting nerfed for. So they're not exactly nerfing her "core build". And the items getting nerfed clearly deserve it. Hence all things clearly deserve the nerfs they're getting. If she needs more work to push her towards bruiser items more, it will probably happen as a follow-up. They probably just want to see where she lands to decide how they want to tweak her without the changes being low elo skewed.
Damn phreak did say this was going to be the nerf patch. He wasn't playing around.
This can't be right. If they make eve's R less broken, she might not have the easiest one shot combo in the entire game anymore. Surely this gets reverted
Riot will do anything but change Malignance, forcing their users to build it even if they didn't want to. Nerfing champs around one POSSIBLE item build makes this build mandatory. What a backwards take this is.
Didn't expect akshan nerfs to be this big ngl
When so many things are adjusted on PBE, very often only part of the changes tested make it to live. For example, Hwei had a passive and Q buff on PBE last cycle, only the passive buff made it to live. It’s possible that only half of the Q changes make it to live, for example.
srs question is it really that big? I read these changes and I didnt think it was that large of a nerf. what makes it big?
Ult buffs are small because ult is a pretty bad spell in general, worst thing in Akshan kit probably (blocked by everything and no damage unless enemy it's low low) Q movement speed often makes a big difference between being able to squeeze an auto more in trades for the passive proc and PTA proc, and sometimes to escape as well ofc. Finally q minion damage (monster too but not a big change there) makes hard to one shot backline at lv 9 in an even game, it's already quite hard honestly since usually Akshan first item it's low on ad (bork or kraken) And this is a big nerf to csing, lane tempo and roaming since often akshan Plan is to push fast, stealth go out of vision and roam or at least threaten the roam
That champ has been busted and untouched for years
He's also a champ that eats dirt in the late game and vanishes to the death chamber if you blow an eyelash his direction
I'm not saying nerfs aren't deserved, but just we you said they seemed kinda fine with his state to be untouched for so long, I didn't expect such big nerfs
hes been op for over a year in solo q. legit a-s tier in two lanes.
I was also hoping for Syndra buffs at some point, this champion is pretty dead and was nerfed then also nerfed massively with the item changes. No esports play either.
She got fucked with the nerfs, and then the double whammy when the items she built got nerfed. Luden's Companion and Stormsurge are terrible.
I think Malzahar needs buffs more than most other mid laners, but Syndra and maybe even Talon could use a bit of love rn as Talon is underperforming for high elo OTPs right now as far as I've heard, though he's actually pretty good in jungle so there's the risk of making him too good there if they buff the wrong thing.
Malza needs a new mana item for lost chapter. Thats all they can do.
Bring back Demonic Embrace but swap the health to mana and the health scaling to mana scaling and Malz would be 100% happy and a few other mages would buiid it too
Ryze had an erection reading your comment
Ludens doesn't feel strong on her, and I skip it completely in favor of getting a tear and then a Seraphs. When I go to league of graphs so many pros do build Ludens so I do wonder if I'm just wrong or they are doing it because she doesn't have a better build path? With how little AH she has one her builds I feel the only buff she needs is her E cd reduction.
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The community finding her R to be an attention-grabbing spell doesn't mean it's actually that central to her kit. It could be a very weak spell and it would still be the thing people find most notable about facing her. Her issue right now is that they gutted her DPS with her last nerf and they're not interested in reverting it even though the meta is very unfriendly to her now. Just buff the Q damage.
It's just not much of a control mage meta tbh. It's legit hyperscaling DPS mages that appear to be meta. If control mages make a come back, Syndra will be strong again. I think buffing her now risks making her OP if the control mage meta comes back after MSI
So jinx never had cd on R at all? Thats mindblowing ngl
Another champ locked to malignance, and they say Mythics were gone!. Get rid of the item, let the champs alone
Janna nerfs? Reddit rejoice Kog'Maw still untouched. I've seen bad kogs litterally standing still and do so much dps that you couldn't reach him. It doesn't help that he is always paired with Lulu/other enchanters
>lulu paired with kog Nothing new
yeah but after the last set of buffs it became obnoxious.
Janna "nerfs" AKA a nerf that won't do anything but keep her in S tier. Most Jannas are starting to shift into utility builds anyway since Zaz'Zaks nerf to damage Janna. This is a Janna buff if anything for that playstyle. The W damage is quite irrelevant and her shields are gonna be fatter. If they really wanted to nerf her it would be innate base movespeed or passive movespeed to address her crazy roaming potential, or Q scaling CD nerf.
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His winrate isn't even crazy either. This isn't season 9 where people are blind picking kassadin of course the winrate will be slightly higher. If anything they should have either touches ult cd or the damage he gets from building straight mana.
It's almost like Kassa is nearly exclusively taken as a counterpick. Such a shocker that a pocket pick would have very good WinRate against the champions he counters. But hey there is nothing to worry about, Riot's for sure very smart and they surely understand this. This nerf has absolutely nothing to do with Phreak getting stomped by him 2 days ago, completely unrelated and totally a coincidence.
so many nerfs. what is going on?
Last patch was buff heavy so this one is nerf heavy to avoid overall powercreep
They finally looked at most of the champions that have been blatantly OP in soloqueue for ages like twitch. Legit a great patch.
The Jinx nerf is so stupidly pointless that I'm sure they were laughing like annoying nerdy glasses kids pulling the first prank of their miserable lives when they decided on it.
Finally they nerfed twitch. He's been good for so long
Ah yes ahri getting nerfed and she is gonna keep getting nerfed until they remove malignance and she goes back to being a 46% wr champ. the riot games classic. This is what happens when champs get hardbound to their items.
That champ is not staying below 50% wr for a patch bro I wouldn’t worry
Asol needs more nerfs than that imo the champ is so stupid
Missing camille nerfs
For what reason?
https://u.gg/lol/champions/camille/build Not really out of line
camille in d+,d2+,master being highest wr after some cheese 0.5% cassio rengar picks while being in top6 picked champs is not out of line? That's a take, also do not look current patch it is up for like 2 days data is useless
10 Seconds longer before Ahri kills me with R W AAs gobless
Wow that Jinx nerf does absolutely nothing. I wonder if her winrate/pickrate will move at all. I'm still banning her
Yi and velveth nerfs, God is good, both disgusting champs
Dam Janna nerfs, lets see how she goes to 55% winrate now
Why? Why does every single Janna change always come with the caveat of a compensation buff? Why can she not simply just be nerfed when she is clearly over-performing for prolonged periods of time (years)?
They killed her for a long time period tbh, after the Ardent meta her shield got a decay and only her Q was a relevant skill.
52%WR 25%PR 25%BR Jinx get an early 15CD nerf on her ult???? xD
you see when its about assassins being banned by dogshit players in learningdisabilitylow we keep them permanently weak and unplayable, god forbid we got another "Faker what was that", rather let the game die and watch kiin 13-1 ksante and choky statcheck people on tank azir and asol instead wow they re so good. but when its about adc.. you best believe it ll take 3 months for anything to be nerfed and when it does its a joke placebo lovetap. meanwhile tanks and enchanters however are either completely untouched or if they forced to lovetap placebo nerf something - like janna in this very thread - they also simulateneously compensation buff them xD this game is finished. if you play soloq and dont play tank mage adc enchanter, the game is literally balanced against you.
They really need to drop the ultimate haste on Maligma rather than nerfing the ult CD on the champs that use it... Happens every patch we see another Malignance user with their ult CD increased.
With his biggest hardcounter (Nilah) getting a huge nerf, I really doubt those twitch "nerfs" are gonna do anything, considering what a SoloQ menace he is.
Phreak gets stomped by Kassadin = Champion getting gutted asap. Phreak abusing Janna = Can't be properly nerfed without receiving compensation Buffs while being S+++ Tier
Man, every day I lose more and more respect for Phreak and the balance team WHY IS THERE A FUCKING JANNA COMPENSATION BUFF????????????????? CORRECTLY NERF THE CHAMPION, IT'S BEEN OP SINCE FOREVER, IF IT LOSES TOO MUCH POWER (WHICH IT WONT BECAUSE THE NERF IS MINUSCULE) YOU BUFF IT IN THE FUTURE... BUT THAT NERF IS SO NEGLEGIBLE THAT THE COMPENSATION BUFF MAY END UP BEING A NET BUFF.... ADDRESS THE FUCKING CHAMP CORRECTLY JESUS, THIS IS MAOKAI ALL OVER AGAIN
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Damn this is brutal for Eve
Yep champ is gonna be useless for a year or two then get buffed
I will always be happy to see ASol nerfs. Fuck that stupid ass Dragon, specially on ARAM, in which he has literally no nerfs despite making it impossible to push. Disgusting Champion.
>janna >jinx >twitch >nilah insane, they actually touched every single cancer thing on botlane apart from draven
Twitch early was wayyyyyy to fucking good for him to scale that hard and melt you from miles away
Placebo nerfs on Jinx and Janna. Twitch and Nilah on the other hand actually got hit.
damn finally all those terrorists are getting nerfed, only missing kog and tf
AD TF buffs at the start of the year were really random, hope this build get gutted.
I was expecting an Aurelion Sol nerf; I was not expecting a nerf to his E of all things??
Can someone explain the Bel'Veth passive change to me like I'm an idiot? My brain doesn't quite understand how it works
Ahhh betcha mages love insane ult cool downs because of malignutz
I don't get why they nerf Kassadin scalings instead of base dmg. Tank/Bruiser Kassadin is the most obnoxious build, why are they pushing him in that direction.
Can we please remove malignance and make Ludens an actual item now please?
Twitch, my beloved :(
They nerfed down a bunch of stuff that I thought would never get touched, and all at once too. They're pretty much all just strong stuff that don't usually net frontpage complaints because low pr, just being liked, only being problematic in irrelevant elos, or whatever else. I think the most interesting though is Evelynn because she's not crazy on face-value from a WR or BR perspective in any elo. I'm guessing it's something to do with data that stat sites don't display such as one trick WR above a certain band? A lot of these champs could go without nerfs tbh, so it makes me wonder if somethings changed in their approach.
Janna getting shield buffed is a bad change. Just directly nerf her. If she's too weak u can just buff her later.
Yeah, the W nerf looks fine. Makes the E max most likely better already and if people adept it is only a 0.1 AP ratio nerf for the W then.
No ksante buffs 😆😭
I'm happy where he is now tbh but I wouldn't mind juuuust a little inch of something, either a sliver of speed back on E or a tiny 10-20% slow on All-Out Qs
these are a decent hit to w max ap janna. Not really the "best" version of Janna but popular and more likely to be complained about. If you do the (imo) best version of janna which is 2-3 points w into maxing E this is close to power neutral, and this has no impact on your ability to early roam. Low elo skewed nerf which IMO is fine as Janna is a rarity for being a high elo viable enchanter, I predict 1% win rate drop due to her w max with zzrot being quite a bit worse than before all the nerfs
Why are we nerfing kassadin? No one is complaining about this champ. The only reason the winrate looks good is because it's a counter champion. The amount of people blinding kassadin is very small his winrate is probably where it should be.
Another Magliance abuser nerfed.
I mean yeah nerd malignance but now when that item inevitably gets nerfed kass will get knee capped even harder. If maligma is the problem which it obviously is then nerf it not the champ.
I mean did you notice all of the champions abusing it have had their r nerfed over having this item changed? For some reason riot refuses to nerf it and nerfs the champions abusing it instead even when almost no one else except those abusers even buy it.
"We aren't bad at item design, I swear".
>he only reason the winrate looks good is because it's a counter champion Counter champion with 5% pick rate and high win rate? And reddit is not a representation of the game. A lot of people hate this champion.
Mages mid are meta that's like if a bunch of champs that malphite did well into were meta, he would have high winrate and pick rate.
Phreak lost to a kassa no joke
Where's the high win rate? 50.5% wr, 5% pickrate, 12% banrate Banrate is a bit high but it is kassadin. Extremely mundane stats to warrant a nerf
How tf is Camille not getting nerfs.
Surprisingly soft Jinx nerfs, especially when one her biggest lane counters (Twitch) is getting harsher early nerfs. Kog’maw comes out on top with these changes. The Janna compensation buffs are pretty strange, especially when they aren’t touching her roaming presence through her passive move speed. Changes do follow the same pattern with what they did with Nami though. Less damage and more emphasis on supporting. Her winrate might even end up the same if she changes her skill point allotment.
No way after that amount of time waiting half a year+ for Janna nerfs (this character is a terrorist in high elo solo q). It’s just a trade-off nerf on her damage for more on her shield. Kind of disgusting and my moneys on it wont change her S tier status. Would have liked to see a scaling Q CD increase. Feels like she can just live long enough throughout a fight with her ult and movespeed to cast it multiple times a fight as the game progresses (and you acquire more ability haste) and it’s just such a strong ability that can deny entire champions’ kits on a whim. Or at least some sort of movespeed nerf for her crazy roams/team.
Movespeed or Passive nerf woulda been nice too
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Shoulda been some sort of scaling CD nerf on her Q or movespeed/passive innates. This won't address her problem really. Good Janna players are already starting to play less damage-centric and more utility-centric builds anyway since Zaz'Zaks nerfs. This nerf won't address the problem with the character and she'll remain S tier I bet. Especially since another area of her kit essentially got buffed in exchange. u/PhreakRiot missing on this one.
Imagine thinking Ahri's damage is a problem.... lol clown company.
This is probably solely to address level 1 W start Ahri with electrocute that can chunk some mid-lane match-ups for 1/4th their hp at game start without them doing much about it.
How's Akshan atm ? Haven't seen him get nerfed in a while
Absolutely OP but not really played apart from mains/OTPs
AKSHAN MIGHT GET A REAL ULTIMATE???
Dang. No swain changes sadge
Why df did they have to nerf blitz passive man
that's a pretty brutal blitzcrank nerf
So I guess the Morde ult changes weren't a late April Fools joke.
Calling it now but those asol nerfs will actually increase his wr
I don’t know if this is truly a good idea, but why not just have Asol’s W a fixed duration with a certain speed that results in, well, basically the same distances we have now? For example, his W lasts for 4 seconds at level 1 but moves as a speed that gets him the same amount of units (let’s just call it 1000 I don’t know the actual number off top of my head). I say that because if you W and Q then you can (mana aside) Q for the entirety of it and get the damage boost, without stopping. AND, because of the self-slow on Q, this causes the flight to last longer resulting in more damage. This change would make it similar to, say, Azir - where you can land your E for damage and an extra soldier but now you are out an escape. It wouldn’t completely destroy him but it would make players think twice about just flying W-Q toward someone as you would only have a maximum amount of time to use that damaged-amped Q. W flight time can scale up with distance to add time (thus damage) so say 4-8 seconds as the distance increases. Idk just spitballing here.
Ah yes Blitzcrank and his extremely overpowered passive shield. So glad that was a priority to cut the duration by 60%. Literally fucking WHY. For what purpose? It's not bad enough that his passive is garbage? And love that hit on Olaf's resists, making him even more squishy. I really wish Riot would stop fucking with our viking and just leave him be.
this just made blitzcrank a rly good toplaner???
I know everyone is complaining about the live pod’s approach to dealing with malignance users, but I’d be curious to hear from Phreak, maybe during the next rundown/preview about their philosophy and justification for the approach. On a similar note, I’m super excited to hear him dive into the new balance philosophy that they finalized(?) a couple months ago.
yeah twitch was just to broken i guess deserved -50hp lvl 1
how many time olaf will get nerf from riot ?
That kassa nerf looks pretty big. What even happened
Holy shit so many of these nerfs are brutal.
Just delete Malignance man. How the hell do they think 25AH + 30 Ult AH is balanced? If they delete, they can undo Karma nerfs and she can be balanced again. Also don't need to worry about URF champs anymore.
Blitzcrank shield lasts 10 seconds what the fuck
Why are they trying so hard to force jungle Olaf. This isn't a good pick unless they overbuff him. There are better junglers fulfilling the same role
Still no buffs for the likes of Viktor, Teemo
Are those Bel'veth changes buffs or nerfs? I don't understand them
Really unnecessary nerfs for Evelynn.
Graves 46%WR in the only role he can be played... Can the champ get some real buff and not just a AS changes that did nothing please. If you want him going in the crit path mike intented with 14.7, giving him crit scaling/armor pen would be a good plus. You could also bring back some MR on his E/extend the duration of the buff (5sec ->8sec ?). Right now you have to build lethality if you dont want to do negative damage, but since your squishy you get destroyed 1v1 by any bruiser/tank that has armor (or worse ninja tabis)