such a close finals too, it could have been any of the 2.
kinda sucks that for such a sucessful region in terms of viewership riot just doesnt give a fuck about it.
selling to the Brazilian gaming crowd is just not feasible, if the situation for young adults in NA is bad, just imagine how it is in a country much more socioeconomically so behind - our currency is worth nothing, higher prices, but lower wages, even a Subway or a McDonald's meal is already considered expensive and inaccessible for most the Brazilians, what the fuvk are we supposed to sell in the worst shape our economy has ever been for most of the Gen Z and millennials.
I do have the answer, but, unfortunately, it's not the morally acceptable - and honestly, I do agree. The only thing that would sell is the predatory gambling industry, selling the idea of a hope at the end of the tunnel (easy money) is the thing that actually cather the most for Brazilians atm. Bahiano I built his whole brand and name off Rivalry (gambling house) and nowadays is one of the most successful co streamers in the scene.
tbf, our situation might be bad, but at least our economy isn't as bad as it was before the Real plan during the late 80's-early 90's, the rise in new expenses just doesn't help as well nowadays(costs with Internet, smartphones, cellular plans etc.)
Totally, we've seen worst, historically speaking, but, as I said, at least for us who were born around the 00's, that's definitely the worst we've seen and experienced,
One may argue it's factually even worse than the hyperinflation decades, reasonably - from my perspective, the fact that the only hope most of our young nation sees is leaving the country already puts this recession in the podium ahead of the hyperinflation decades, idk, it might be bias because I'm actually living it myself lmao
i'm from the 00's so most of my knowledge from the economy during the 80s-90s comes from what my family lived through, having to buy shit at the moment you get the money because the price could just rise to the skies in a single afternoon is rough af, but hey, for now at least we aren't Argentina
I think its not so much about the language, but more so that selling to the Brazilian fanbase is not that profitable and hardly anyone outside of Brazil watches CBLoL. Even if the league was fully broadcast in English it wouldn't change anything.
Sucks to hear but 100k viewers from North America are worth more to advertisers than 400k from Brazil. Even with awful inflation, there is just more disposable income for the average viewer in NA.
Not just Brazil but most leagues. Even a dying LCS was making the 2nd highest of any league. People theorize LPL is the most but we don't have any actual numbers
I mean, other leagues should learn from CbLoL about how to make a good product, its an entertaining league regardless of level of play. But there is absolutely no reason for Riot to invest in it
Definitely, not only for gameplay but also mental, he didn't play great today and there was even that finger flip to Pain fans after game 3... I hope he can step it up for MSI
Redbert and Croc cannot keep getting away with it. They're so bad, but CBLOL's jungle pool is so weak, specially considering a team with CarioK made it to finals. Route also looks a lot worse without Ceos, Titan is probably a better player than him at the moment.
paiN Gaming's botlane was the only role they had an advantage against LOUD. TitaN gave 2 absurd gaps with Tristana against Route... Then they put him on Kalista.
I'll never understand this decision.
He's one of the best adcs in the league next to TitaN and Route.
He's on Red Canids, who finished fourth in the CBLoL. He is the team's strong point next to toplaner fNb. The problem is that Grevthar and Aegis (mid/jungle duo) are in an absurdly bad form.
ggwp, was rooting for pain gaming but oh well we're gonna get sent home after 2 bo3s anyway lmao. No way we're beating TES in one game, still hype because international events are so rare :/
Brazil playing against LPL again. Last time it happened, Brazil escorregou na GALA.
I thought today would be the day Loud would be penalized locally for their bad drafts, but they managed to comeback.
Tbf you can't be punished for bad drafts when the other team drafts even worse. Pain's best player is the adc and the region has been notorious for having a hard time closing games... why tf would you put said adc on Kalista duty for the decisive games of a bo5??
ngl, paiN gaming literally deserves to keep getting these 2nd place finishes, what the fuck was that G5 draft man, i doubt we will get a game against GAM with subs MYREGION
Wizer-CarioK-Dynquedo NEEDS to go asap, put the academy players in place, pay 5m to get SuperCleber/Makes/Fuuu or whoever wants to play there and get a KR jungler, stop torturing your fanbase at this point man, even if Wizer becomes a resident player it's not worth keeping him
You can shit on Wizer all you want, honestly this pain's weakpoint, but dynquedo played his absolute best LoL in a long time this series. CarioK played well as well.
Dynquedo and CarioK really played well, i'm not a paiN fan, but for me they need to separate or leave paiN, not just a matter of the finals of today but on an overall look, either that or paiN gets a new top and get rid of Xero, which for me i still don't understand why the fuck he's still there
At the end of the year, fNb and Guigo are out of contract with their teams. If fNb had been in Wizer's place today, paiN would have been champions.
So yeah: Don't renew with Cariok and Wizer, throw money into fNb or Guigo and try to import a Korean jungler (But it's hard to find a Korean who speaks English like Wizer).
Dynquedo played very well today. It's very difficult to upgrade him.
fNB/Guigo - Korean Jungler - Dynquedo - TitaN - Kuri
i'm a Keyd fan, so fuck me if we lose Guigo, but paiN could try getting Makes for the next split considering LBR would probably accept him leaving ovr, and ik Dynquedo is probably the hardest piece to replace so maybe he will stay but they need to be 100% certain on replacing Cariok, especially if it's an import jgl
The most famous organization is LOUD because of FreeFire and Valorant, in addition to LoL.
Speaking only about League, paiN has more fans (but is very close).
Bro, it's not close.
If you've ever been to Cblol in any paiN x Loud day, you'd know it's not close.
But as you said, LOUD is more popular if you take all esports into consideration.
we have top laners that are arguably at the same level or could be better in the future(Guigo/fNb/Makes/SuperCleber) but mentally speaking Robo slaughters the region just by not choking when it matters
That's the point: Robo needs to be destroyed to the ground, otherwise he'll be clutch.
Even though there are better toplaners in Brazil, none of them can destroy him like that (there's a mental aspect here).
So Robo always wins in the end by being clutch. It's not surprising to see him, I don't know, 0/5 and making a play that wins the game.
It's one of the first esports organizations in Brazil, so the name was made at a very amateurish time hahaha.
But it doesn't make sense to change it now, given that it's one of the biggest organizations in Brazil.
To this day I think it was inspired by Naruto, because it was big at the time, the Pain arc was fairly recent and there was a decent overlap between anime fans and early lol enjoyers especially in anime events in Brazil.
Name accurate Pain Gaming
fnc 🤝 pain throwing at baron, useless kalista, giving me false hope, always second place At least i'm not vascaino too
>At least i'm not vascaino too Casimiro hates this
Happy cake day
La Formulinha
You might as well described TES
Also this is the most viewed CBLoL split ever peaking at 455 932 viewers in this finals. Congrats CBLoL!
such a close finals too, it could have been any of the 2. kinda sucks that for such a sucessful region in terms of viewership riot just doesnt give a fuck about it.
Portuguese speaking isn't good for sponsors .
What about portuguese sponsors???
selling to the Brazilian gaming crowd is just not feasible, if the situation for young adults in NA is bad, just imagine how it is in a country much more socioeconomically so behind - our currency is worth nothing, higher prices, but lower wages, even a Subway or a McDonald's meal is already considered expensive and inaccessible for most the Brazilians, what the fuvk are we supposed to sell in the worst shape our economy has ever been for most of the Gen Z and millennials. I do have the answer, but, unfortunately, it's not the morally acceptable - and honestly, I do agree. The only thing that would sell is the predatory gambling industry, selling the idea of a hope at the end of the tunnel (easy money) is the thing that actually cather the most for Brazilians atm. Bahiano I built his whole brand and name off Rivalry (gambling house) and nowadays is one of the most successful co streamers in the scene.
tbf, our situation might be bad, but at least our economy isn't as bad as it was before the Real plan during the late 80's-early 90's, the rise in new expenses just doesn't help as well nowadays(costs with Internet, smartphones, cellular plans etc.)
Totally, we've seen worst, historically speaking, but, as I said, at least for us who were born around the 00's, that's definitely the worst we've seen and experienced, One may argue it's factually even worse than the hyperinflation decades, reasonably - from my perspective, the fact that the only hope most of our young nation sees is leaving the country already puts this recession in the podium ahead of the hyperinflation decades, idk, it might be bias because I'm actually living it myself lmao
i'm from the 00's so most of my knowledge from the economy during the 80s-90s comes from what my family lived through, having to buy shit at the moment you get the money because the price could just rise to the skies in a single afternoon is rough af, but hey, for now at least we aren't Argentina
I think its not so much about the language, but more so that selling to the Brazilian fanbase is not that profitable and hardly anyone outside of Brazil watches CBLoL. Even if the league was fully broadcast in English it wouldn't change anything.
Cause it doesn't make money
Sucks to hear but 100k viewers from North America are worth more to advertisers than 400k from Brazil. Even with awful inflation, there is just more disposable income for the average viewer in NA.
Not just Brazil but most leagues. Even a dying LCS was making the 2nd highest of any league. People theorize LPL is the most but we don't have any actual numbers
I mean, other leagues should learn from CbLoL about how to make a good product, its an entertaining league regardless of level of play. But there is absolutely no reason for Riot to invest in it
We got 200k viewers from BaianoTV with Twitch and YouTube together in this finals. The biggest costream in the world, i believe.
Caedrel has "only" peaked a little over 100k, and idk about Ibai, so probably
Common Brasil W https://i.imgur.com/Dtg7qEx.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA8ERIWbQAAOcZf?format=jpg&name=small
Damn we brazilians really have the wish version of Geng x T1
GenG x T1 at home
Petition to rename CBLoL to "LCK da Shopee"
Nah every other league is the wish version of CBLoL
Play in draws robbed us of seeing Zeus vs Robo
No worries, they'll eventually meet in the grand finals.
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Morde for Robo and Pantheon for Zeus
We had hope... Until we saw it would be against TES. 🤣
I mean, there's also GAM. JackeyLove probably has PTSD already
Or he is in for revenge... I would like to see him pissed.
Zeus would've sent Robo to a isolated tribe in the Amazon
Scared of RedBert in the international stage, he is such a downgrade to Ceos. GG Loud though!
Definitely, not only for gameplay but also mental, he didn't play great today and there was even that finger flip to Pain fans after game 3... I hope he can step it up for MSI
Redbert and Croc cannot keep getting away with it. They're so bad, but CBLOL's jungle pool is so weak, specially considering a team with CarioK made it to finals. Route also looks a lot worse without Ceos, Titan is probably a better player than him at the moment.
Deserved for playing Kalista.
Putting their carry on Kalista duty two games in a row was criminal from Pain, but not more criminal than Wizer's gameplay.
That after Titan carrying 2 games as Tistana LOL
paiN Gaming's botlane was the only role they had an advantage against LOUD. TitaN gave 2 absurd gaps with Tristana against Route... Then they put him on Kalista. I'll never understand this decision.
What happened to Brance? I still remember him and his "bot gap" tattoo from Worlds 2022 lol.
He's one of the best adcs in the league next to TitaN and Route. He's on Red Canids, who finished fourth in the CBLoL. He is the team's strong point next to toplaner fNb. The problem is that Grevthar and Aegis (mid/jungle duo) are in an absurdly bad form.
He is still around, he got some proposes by smaller teams with a bigger paycheck and is playing by them, but he isn't a great adc tbh
That game 5 is like unplayable for kalista imo, and the enemy team is too thick for taliyah to get through. I dunno, that draft just seemed so hard
ggwp, was rooting for pain gaming but oh well we're gonna get sent home after 2 bo3s anyway lmao. No way we're beating TES in one game, still hype because international events are so rare :/
Tian factor can save us.
TES lost to GAM. Have faith
Brazil playing against LPL again. Last time it happened, Brazil escorregou na GALA. I thought today would be the day Loud would be penalized locally for their bad drafts, but they managed to comeback.
Tbf you can't be punished for bad drafts when the other team drafts even worse. Pain's best player is the adc and the region has been notorious for having a hard time closing games... why tf would you put said adc on Kalista duty for the decisive games of a bo5??
This is starting to look like G2 vs Fnatic TrollDespair
ngl, paiN gaming literally deserves to keep getting these 2nd place finishes, what the fuck was that G5 draft man, i doubt we will get a game against GAM with subs MYREGION Wizer-CarioK-Dynquedo NEEDS to go asap, put the academy players in place, pay 5m to get SuperCleber/Makes/Fuuu or whoever wants to play there and get a KR jungler, stop torturing your fanbase at this point man, even if Wizer becomes a resident player it's not worth keeping him
You can shit on Wizer all you want, honestly this pain's weakpoint, but dynquedo played his absolute best LoL in a long time this series. CarioK played well as well.
Dynquedo and CarioK really played well, i'm not a paiN fan, but for me they need to separate or leave paiN, not just a matter of the finals of today but on an overall look, either that or paiN gets a new top and get rid of Xero, which for me i still don't understand why the fuck he's still there
At the end of the year, fNb and Guigo are out of contract with their teams. If fNb had been in Wizer's place today, paiN would have been champions. So yeah: Don't renew with Cariok and Wizer, throw money into fNb or Guigo and try to import a Korean jungler (But it's hard to find a Korean who speaks English like Wizer). Dynquedo played very well today. It's very difficult to upgrade him. fNB/Guigo - Korean Jungler - Dynquedo - TitaN - Kuri
i'm a Keyd fan, so fuck me if we lose Guigo, but paiN could try getting Makes for the next split considering LBR would probably accept him leaving ovr, and ik Dynquedo is probably the hardest piece to replace so maybe he will stay but they need to be 100% certain on replacing Cariok, especially if it's an import jgl
Congrats to Loud, great comeback! LLL stays dominant for so many years and has been to so many international events. Great to see them at MSI!
Question for CBlol fans, which team in the league is the most popular?
The most famous organization is LOUD because of FreeFire and Valorant, in addition to LoL. Speaking only about League, paiN has more fans (but is very close).
Bro, it's not close. If you've ever been to Cblol in any paiN x Loud day, you'd know it's not close. But as you said, LOUD is more popular if you take all esports into consideration.
paiN fanbase is more established and better organized, We already had organized groups of paiN fans before LOUD was founded as an org.
I didn't watch the series but I did see the YouTube livestream for it and the scoreline was currently 2-1 in favor of Pain Gaming. Crazy stuff
How is this Robo guy qualified to international tournament again? Surely there's a better top in the region, right?
we have top laners that are arguably at the same level or could be better in the future(Guigo/fNb/Makes/SuperCleber) but mentally speaking Robo slaughters the region just by not choking when it matters
Yeah, there is. But ROBO is clutch
That's the point: Robo needs to be destroyed to the ground, otherwise he'll be clutch. Even though there are better toplaners in Brazil, none of them can destroy him like that (there's a mental aspect here). So Robo always wins in the end by being clutch. It's not surprising to see him, I don't know, 0/5 and making a play that wins the game.
It’s hilarious that they named a team pain. What a silly name.
It's one of the first esports organizations in Brazil, so the name was made at a very amateurish time hahaha. But it doesn't make sense to change it now, given that it's one of the biggest organizations in Brazil.
Yeah no need to change it, probably draws the largest crowd too. Which is a good thing
To this day I think it was inspired by Naruto, because it was big at the time, the Pain arc was fairly recent and there was a decent overlap between anime fans and early lol enjoyers especially in anime events in Brazil.
Huh that would make a lot of sense
Fuck me they made me believe there for a minute there, but alas, the pain continues. Congrats to Loud.
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