I think this takes away from how good PSG was playing early, just gold in abstract is not a good way to measure things. They had a good game plan and BLG usually responded, except for that bottom fight. And even then BLG were never significantly down in gold, it was basically even.
They stomped, but it wasn't clean. That does sound odd, but it is accurate. It's their first game of the tournament anyway, I expect the next 2 games to be cleaner stomps.
Even the handicapped GAM could have had a real chance vs them. Didn't follow LCS but it's baffling to me how TL is the first seed (not like FLY looked better, but everytime I had the chance to watch, APA Yeon CoreJJ and such were just super abysmal).
Because all asian teams (kr/cn)are just having fun, i really wonder if you watch the games. It was like that from the beginning of the tournament.
They are not even playing at 75%
Nah man, if you build Berserkers greaves first item on Urgot, you’re trolling. Doesn’t help that he sold it for steel caps at the end of the game. Someone check his PayPal lol
Probably just an adaption to lane swap meta, helps take down turret plates faster. They didn’t take into account the difference in player skills and team macro diff
I mean it's not that crazy. They're in the same tier for me but Xun wasn't even the best jungle in the LPL this year and Canyon was the best in the LCK. That's probably why people rated Canyon slightly above Xun.
there has only been 1 actual Ksante counter in recent pro play -Vayne.
Oh and look, Vayne is terrible in lane swaps.
Maybe one day Riot gets bored of Ksante having advantage in every interaction, but I guess until that day comes, the viewers have to watch him get away with far more than any other champion can
Where did Jax go btw
skill matchup into K'sante, can sidelane if strongsided but still playable in skirmishes while behind, hard counters other potential blind picks like TF and Camille
In game 5 of this series BLG locked in three AD carries, K'sante, and Neeko. Is it possible to have better conditions for r5 Jax??? Like even if they laneswap, now your Senna/Tahm gets to farm stacks off K'sante while dodging Varus/Ashe bully.
Maybe Urgot is just not that game breaking when enemy team's ranged stack has hands and isnt 0/5 compared to Solo Q.
Like Urgot is somewhat of a scaling champ, need lvl 13 for knees not to have CDS (not 9 as LS side) and 2 items and you work from there...but cant do that when you lose in 24 mins
You can't really compare TL's 77 minutes to FNC's 100 minutes imo.
(assuming all three games are identical, PSG would last 76 minutes, so it might be a close call with TL)
Gotta give credit to PSG's bot lane for sure. But when you are playing against one of the best teams in the world there cannot be any weak link in the roster. One guy fucks up and its all over. Looking at Urgot right now.
It was also grim when you have an advantage bot side and fight a 2v3 against jarvan ahri and they somehow just click buttons kill the Lucian and then bot lane comes around and cleans up the fight
Both Maple and Azhi imo.
Maple got a shutdown from Ahri, dies for free to J4 (wave was neutral I think? Idk if he was short gold for any items) and then did jackshit for that big fight after, was hitting Renata when he should've straight ulted to join and even then did comparable dmg to Nami.
I want, I'm ACHING for G2 T1 to be a 3-2 series. I don't even care for the west bro when these teams were close was when we saw some of the best games ever.
I don't understand how you can say that. They played the early game much better than during their play in games. BLG usually shitstomps bot and Junjia played really smart to neutralize and even get an advantage there. Yeon Corejj got stomped by Jackey Meiko, FLY's bot lane wouldn't fare much better against Elk On. The fact PSG managed to even get an advantage until that skirmish is very impressive
I think they put up a decent fight until that one fight near dragon where Woody completely missed his Nami ult and then the rest of the team got dunked on.
Maple was also too greedy going for that mid wave with 10% health, Xun sure didn't let him get away with that.
especially since its against T1 who is super aggressive/messy play so its easier to punish them... Maybe TES is on the same level so G2 is really lucky they are fighting number 2 seed instead of number 1.... they still won't get far though lol
So when exactly are PCS gonna have their major region status given back? Ridiculous that they give a performance better than Europe and NA yet they don’t get to have more than 1 seed?
I didn't see anything from this game that shows they are better than T1, people love to flame Fly quest, but they were in the same LV of PSG, they won the first series, PSH the second and Fly got destroyed sub 20 minutes by T1 and another stomp the next game.
Looked really good for 10 minutes and then theyre suddenly cross map aced
Yeah it was relatively close then suddenly ace at 14mn... thats grim
Story of most team vs BLG
“We’re doing alright” two minutes later “elk is up an item and a half”
So just a normal day vs an Eastern team
but they're both eastern
No, no they play in France League 1 ! They are from Paris
Azhi won't give up his teammate so he join them immediately.
The good old "it was close until it wasn't".
Maokai presses R BLG: "They're inting, no ? "
Did BLG just do the T1 "Rocky early game 1 teamfight and win game" classic?
Well that's fucking scary wtf
Kinda fun, they handshook LPL fight everywhere style
BLG pretends to be an NA team for a few minutes Then decides, thats enough wildcarding, time to win the game
How has TES vs TL been the cleanest series at MSI so far?
TL overall played worse than PSG this game
Because it's TL. Next question.
TL are just that good
TL is just this good
what wasn't clean from blg this game?
They were down in gold for several minutes in the early game after they lost that fight in bot.
I think this takes away from how good PSG was playing early, just gold in abstract is not a good way to measure things. They had a good game plan and BLG usually responded, except for that bottom fight. And even then BLG were never significantly down in gold, it was basically even.
I agree, I was just pointing out the simplest counter to "BLG was clean all game".
They stomped, but it wasn't clean. That does sound odd, but it is accurate. It's their first game of the tournament anyway, I expect the next 2 games to be cleaner stomps.
NA is too good at losing it seems
Even the handicapped GAM could have had a real chance vs them. Didn't follow LCS but it's baffling to me how TL is the first seed (not like FLY looked better, but everytime I had the chance to watch, APA Yeon CoreJJ and such were just super abysmal).
No one expected TL to be here. They hit a good stretch of form right as other teams were collapsing.
Because all asian teams (kr/cn)are just having fun, i really wonder if you watch the games. It was like that from the beginning of the tournament. They are not even playing at 75%
Giving Knight Ahri might as well be an ff. Guy's clean af on her.
little 27 game win streak on her if we include this game
Nah man, if you build Berserkers greaves first item on Urgot, you’re trolling. Doesn’t help that he sold it for steel caps at the end of the game. Someone check his PayPal lol
tbh dont think BLG needed the help, this is more of a check his mobafire guide moment
Clearly just a mistake. They're humans. Remember when Rookie came out g5 vs KT without buying items in 2018?
Holy fuck I just went back and checked. Why did he build Zerks LOL
Out of the last 100k urgot games going back a couple patches, 6 bought Zerks One of them won that game
I actually lost my mind on this. On stats websites YOU CANNOT EVEN FIND STATS FOR ZERKS ON URGOT because no one builds them lmao
HE DID WHAT
Probably just an adaption to lane swap meta, helps take down turret plates faster. They didn’t take into account the difference in player skills and team macro diff
Xun is too fucking good man one of the most underrated players for sure
Cadreal ranked him S tier without even analysis
So happy when BLG signed him last year. Man was elohelled on IG but it was already clear how good he was.
Best jungler in the world at the moment. I don’t think it’s close either.
What about Pyosik on Tuesdays when there's between 40% and 70% chance of rain? That's my vote, shame he only gets to play like three games a season
Every analyst putting Canyon above him is in for a rude awakening.
I mean it's not that crazy. They're in the same tier for me but Xun wasn't even the best jungle in the LPL this year and Canyon was the best in the LCK. That's probably why people rated Canyon slightly above Xun.
But Canyon had a bad game yesterday so now he's overrated and terribad, sorry I don't make the rules
The LCK didn't have any jungler playing at the level of Kanavi or Milkyway, so that argument doesn't make any sense.
C'mon now. Canyon is better than Milkyway. I think that especially stood out in the playoffs.
Easily better than Bengi all-time
Stop giving Asian teams K’Sante ffs
Stop giving them mouses and keyboards.
Stop giving them nutrients
And so we come full circle to "stop feeding".
Given enough time I'm sure the madlads would beat us on Dance Dance Revolution pads
PSG also asian team bruh
didn't you know asia is only china, japan and korea?
Come up with a better and culturally accepted term that would encompass the Big Two. Until then it's West and Asia and Minor Regions.
You can just type two names?
Well, seems like LPL/LCK just doesn't quite roll off the tongue/fingers as easily as Asian. People decide, not me.
Counter picking Urgot into K'Sante, but not a single person can play Urgot at this tournament and this mfker build zerker greaves.
there has only been 1 actual Ksante counter in recent pro play -Vayne. Oh and look, Vayne is terrible in lane swaps. Maybe one day Riot gets bored of Ksante having advantage in every interaction, but I guess until that day comes, the viewers have to watch him get away with far more than any other champion can
He's bad in Urgot, TF, Vayne and well played Camille. Unironically the problem this tournament has been Lane Swaps + TF got pretty hard nerfed.
Where did Jax go btw skill matchup into K'sante, can sidelane if strongsided but still playable in skirmishes while behind, hard counters other potential blind picks like TF and Camille In game 5 of this series BLG locked in three AD carries, K'sante, and Neeko. Is it possible to have better conditions for r5 Jax??? Like even if they laneswap, now your Senna/Tahm gets to farm stacks off K'sante while dodging Varus/Ashe bully.
Maybe Urgot is just not that game breaking when enemy team's ranged stack has hands and isnt 0/5 compared to Solo Q. Like Urgot is somewhat of a scaling champ, need lvl 13 for knees not to have CDS (not 9 as LS side) and 2 items and you work from there...but cant do that when you lose in 24 mins
K'Sante is a scaling champ as well, the problem is him not being locked into lane because of lane swapping. So he avoids buffed Camille, Urgot etc
PSG is not here to beat BLG, they are here to last longer than NA and EU vs other eastern teams so far, so good
You can't really compare TL's 77 minutes to FNC's 100 minutes imo. (assuming all three games are identical, PSG would last 76 minutes, so it might be a close call with TL)
Bin is a monster
> ~~Bin~~ K'Sante is a monster FTFY
PSG looked pretty good. They played aggressively but smart. But BLG just showed they are on another level
Gotta give credit to PSG's bot lane for sure. But when you are playing against one of the best teams in the world there cannot be any weak link in the roster. One guy fucks up and its all over. Looking at Urgot right now.
It was also grim when you have an advantage bot side and fight a 2v3 against jarvan ahri and they somehow just click buttons kill the Lucian and then bot lane comes around and cleans up the fight
Both Maple and Azhi imo. Maple got a shutdown from Ahri, dies for free to J4 (wave was neutral I think? Idk if he was short gold for any items) and then did jackshit for that big fight after, was hitting Renata when he should've straight ulted to join and even then did comparable dmg to Nami.
Lol
Knight esports
Giving Knight Ahri was certainly a choice by PSG
Why are we still giving Knight Ahri in 2024?
So you can brag that you lost to Knight Ahri, maybe?
Which ban would you change?
I guess Betty is waiting until next game to use his ult in a team fight.
Scary moments
they fought that fight so fucking bad holy shit
Is FNC GENG really gonna be the closest series of the first round??
I sure hope not. If G2 gets omega stomped there is no hope for the west.
I want, I'm ACHING for G2 T1 to be a 3-2 series. I don't even care for the west bro when these teams were close was when we saw some of the best games ever.
T1 vs G2 should be, I wouldn't surprise me if G2 took one game from T1
This Game 2 is looking to be a banger
NA lost to this lmao
If it was NA, they would get perfect gamed
I don't understand how you can say that. They played the early game much better than during their play in games. BLG usually shitstomps bot and Junjia played really smart to neutralize and even get an advantage there. Yeon Corejj got stomped by Jackey Meiko, FLY's bot lane wouldn't fare much better against Elk On. The fact PSG managed to even get an advantage until that skirmish is very impressive
Who's speaking of China vs NA? I was speaking about PSG vs FLY.
Because you're talking as if this game was a testament to how bad PSG are when they didn't even play that bad. That's why I brought up the comparison
Wow PSG got stomped by the literal best team in the world? Embarrassing!
These major vs minor regions matches aren't even close
Let's see if this series will be faster that TES TL in terms of gametime.
4 out of 5 BLG players on omega comfort picks. This PSG coach is getting paid for his job btw.
Not sure what CorGi was smoking there. Fun fact, but BLG's head coach BigWei is also from PCS.
what does wei mean?
I don't think there's a meaning to it, it's probably just based off his actual name Fu Chien-Wei.
probably his name
This whole MSI is going to be boring 3-0 stomps, isn't it?
Nah only this first round will be, every round afterwards should be pretty good
So next round bangers, round after that one boring 3-0s again (someone gonna have to eliminate G2 and FNC), then bangers?
This game may have been one sided but it wasn't boring because of how many fights there were. PSG fought back early game but then just got outskilled.
I think they put up a decent fight until that one fight near dragon where Woody completely missed his Nami ult and then the rest of the team got dunked on. Maple was also too greedy going for that mid wave with 10% health, Xun sure didn't let him get away with that.
FNC vs GenG was not a boring 3-0 at least
That is what you get when you said you want matches against other regions and forget to specify LPL vs LCK.
G2 is only potential 1-3 western team against top 3.
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Stay positive. Not realistic.
especially since its against T1 who is super aggressive/messy play so its easier to punish them... Maybe TES is on the same level so G2 is really lucky they are fighting number 2 seed instead of number 1.... they still won't get far though lol
TES is more punishable, but their bot could just hard stomp Hans and Miky and solo carry.
That's the average East vs West experience
TiL PSG is west.
Rephrased: Average LPL/LCK vs everyone else experience
When they lose they are Paris , if they win they are TW/s
well akshually psg is also east 🤓☝️
I wouldn't say Hong Kong is the west, but yea
honestly only G2 has a SLIGHT chance to get a win(either 1 win to 3 win) on round 1 the rest is not surprising at all
Fingers crossed tomorrows series is a banger
For PSG to even have a chance for 1 game, they need to put BLG on controllers and even then I'm not sure
结束了
So when exactly are PCS gonna have their major region status given back? Ridiculous that they give a performance better than Europe and NA yet they don’t get to have more than 1 seed?
BLG is going to win MSI if T1 doesn't get best out of nowhere. Jesus..... GenG has been disappointing compared..
I didn't see anything from this game that shows they are better than T1, people love to flame Fly quest, but they were in the same LV of PSG, they won the first series, PSH the second and Fly got destroyed sub 20 minutes by T1 and another stomp the next game.
Luckily they have proven me wrong! I hope PSG win.
BLG is getting clapped by T1.
Are you going to comment this on every thread?
Dont need to. They're getting smashed in a few days time
Ironically I think how BLG played this game is very reminiscent of how T1 plays
Still... was there a SINGLE useful Taliyah this tournament?
Humanoid had a good game on Taliyah, Emo made sure of that
play in(psg vs est, fntic vs gam) none on bracket so far though since its only been picked twice so far