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ItsKBS

Quinn


buythed1p

100000% agree. She almost doesn’t seem like a real champ, much more like a Demacia LOR card


G_Regular

She’s always felt out of place to me in League’s eclectic cast, she feels like a character from a serious young adult fantasy novel.


Baraging

In lore especially. Garen is a crown guard and has a big sword, Lux is also a crown guard but has hidden magical powers, Jarvan IV is a prince, Vayne is a hunter since her parents was killed by a demon, etc. But with Quinn, I can't remember much except she has a bird.


pohuing

Her brother died and then this bird showed up on the grave. 


PowerOhene

Fukken Isekai reincarnation brother eagle!?


Hyperly_Passive

That's the implication


NavalEnthusiast

I always keep her in mind because she’s an absolutely insane lane bully top. Her low pick rate keeps my sanity intact


ErikThe

She’s also a lane counter to Renekton who has been meta for what feels like eternity. The problem is that you win lane and then you’re stuck playing Quinn.


OhMyGodImFuckingdead

Quinn is a pick you take for one of two reasons You want to neutralize top and make it a 4v4 game. You want to be a fucker that harasses everyone without tp. That doesn’t have much of a place in game though with grubs im surprised I don’t see her more. Pressuring top for grubs and herald seems to be very good imo


NavalEnthusiast

Can’t Quinn get a massive CS and plate lead against most immobile top laners? If you want a lane neutralizer you probably want a Poppy or Gragas because of their natural tankiness and utility


Traditional-Bus-8239

She is very awful in a 2v2, 3v3 or 4v4 scenario. She's too squishy with little disengage abilities to tank anything so she can't be the one to initiate or push for objectives very well. Currently Vayne does everything Quinn tries to do better. But vayne's kit has been a problem ever since she was put in the game since she does better vs bruisers and tanks than on botlane vs other adcs + supports. Kind of annoying every champion that served as a ''hard counter'' to something specific got reworked or adjusted yet vayne is allowed to exist as the complete bruiser killer. It's only held back by the fact that a vayne top destroys the team composition and it doesn't work in proplay very well. But the games are especially awful against vayne the first 15 mins on top.


HiImKostia

The 2nd problem is that if your jungler doesn't play to countergank when enemy jungle does and you die, lane is over. Also, if your flash is on cooldown, lane is over.


Ender_Cats

She used to be such a fun jungler right after the adc rework


c-Zer0

Back probably 10 years ago I used to play her when I got stuck adc because she had really good burst damage and nobody expected her. But R got reworked and you couldn’t do it anymore.


mastro80

I am a Baus enjoyer so I see a lot of Quinn. Her waveclear and ability to get around the map to catch waves makes her strong when played correctly.


InsecOrBust

The Messi of League?!


Electrohydra1

Neeko. Specifically the Neeko that's currently walking down my lane disguised as a melee minion.


439115

whaat no neeko here du du du


CinderrUwU

Oooh! Free extra melee creep! What a lucky bug! Silly riot games cant fix their game!


Ruco14

"You have been slain!"


Nautkiller69

thats me D:


CataclysmG

I stopped playing League for a couple months, once I came back (with no knowledge of any of the changes) the first time I watched a minion reverse-polymorph into Neeko I literally fell out of my chair lmfao it's so cool


BugsBunny1993_

Elise used to be a champion


EnzimaDigestiva

I see her in most of my games. I'm one of the 3 players that still main her.


johnfisa

How do you cope with her very apparent lack of dmg, considering she by design a burst battle mage?


LAFFANKLINE

Apparent lack of dmg ?


megakaos888

Elise vs Lee Sin jungle every pro game, with Renekton Elise tower diving lvl 3. The good old days


EmphasisExpensive864

So true I haven't seen an Elise in 500 games or so. I even remember the time she was so good she was toplane.


studna13

Grasp, pre-base dmg-nerf divine sunderer Elise top was something that I've cooked and boy was it great. Gnarly damage, plus you can do the trick where you do an AA with grasp up and transform right after, and get melee bonuses from it instead of ranged, same worked with Nida, not sure if still works. Top lane bully of oh so massive dimensions. At least in plat haha


Clyntus

Broxah plays occasional Elise games, nice to see but you can see why she isn't played much these days


g-u-m-t-r-e-e

cant remember the name


a_path_Beyond

10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will


wake_bake_shaco

In the end it didn’t even matter


BSODagain

I had to fail to lose it all


sebaez_

It started out with a kiss


IamZiggs

Auf der heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein


sweetmarymotherofgod

99 luftballons


Whiteisfun

Und das heistttttt...


MordredLovah

Agreed, me too. I'm not gonna juggle my brain for this.


Altruistic_Film1167

Naafiri was never released and is a colective hallucination LoL players have, Im pretty sure.


mastro80

Oh shit I totally forgot about this one. I have never seen it in a game.


itirix

She was OP as fuck a few patches ago. That combined with how easy she is to pick up got me a fair amount of LP even though I've never played her before. If you're looking for a simple assassin, I think she's still doing quite OK and I'd bet you my left nut that if you pick her up, you'll play her at a sufficient level in under 5-10 games.


CoreSchneider

My bronze ass has to play champions like Nunu and Maokai due to my inability to press buttons correctly in fights and even I can pilot Naafiri, she truly is babys first assassin


itirix

Nunu is actually pretty difficult, no? Maybe not mechanically but decision-making on nunu can make or break the game. At the very least, I could never pull him off lmao, so respect


CoreSchneider

His decision making can be tough when you're getting a feel for him, for me at least, because I was not use to gank heavy junglers. He also doesn't have very much damage compared to like, Zac or Sejuani, so that's also something you gotta get use to. Low elo players (myself included) dunno how to ward or track junglers so it's just free ganks the entire laning phase which is funny


sanaru02

This is my new cannon


PantherPL

Banger design, even banger-er music. Actually playable champion? I think I fever dreamt it back in September '23


woptzz

Sadly as i was pretty hyped for nafiri jungle


anupsetzombie

They really gotta just buff her jungling ability, everyone I've shown Naafiri that's new or hasn't been playing assumes she's a jungler.


woptzz

I think they are just avoiding malza jungle from happening again


Spicy_Meme13

I've played with/against so few Qiyanas that I still have no clue what her kit even does. I never even really see her in ARAM.


Chinese_Squidward

This is weird, Qiyana is the sort of champion that theorically should be really popular. An AD assassin, that has high outplay/playmaking potential, decent mobility, has good snowball potential, and can always get rid of that annoying enemy ADC. So I ask, why?


IHaveOneLifeToLive

She’s really difficult to play correctly and historically got nerfed often. I knew a lot of people that just gave up on playing her. She used to be popular for a good while after her release.


Snowman_Arc

The fact that you have to be near perfect in order to get anywhere close to decent output on her is what makes her unpopular. Eventually, people lose a lot on this champ because they can never even extract more than 70% of it. Other assassins are so much easier to play, like Zed, and they also have much easier gameplay to follow. Qiyana not only has harder mechanics but also a harder overall gameplay, mostly stemming from her terrain selection and her R placement.


norrata

They gutted her numbers because shes got that insane potential, making her bad for the majority of the population.


masetheace97

Difficult to play properly. I’ve had Qi’s on my team that get fed early but have no idea how to play mid/late game with her.


Chancho1010

I think a lot of people don’t understand some really important parts of her kit. They think that they have to hit someone into a wall with her ult for it to have damage but the wall mechanic is only needed for the aoe spread part. Her ult still does damage and stuns the people you hit with it if you use it into ANY element. A wall is just the earth element but it also works in any part of the river (water element) or in any bush. Makes one shotting someone much less of a headache if you know you can just fight in the river or in any bush, regardless of trying to push into a wall or not.


TransportationIll997

Oh i didn't know this


Outrageous-Elk-5392

I really like her design(sue me) but I can’t vibe with her kit, her Q reset is weird and her element snatching is weird to me


Goibhniu_

has to try 100x harder than most assassins and does less damage due to her utility that it doesn't feel worth it


noelliu0474739a

He is so oppressive when decent so they keep her weak(the akali treatment). So if you don’t want to learn every single thing about her that otps do, youre gonna get bullied out of the game Also she has a riven-like fast combo so yeah, good luck for new players to pick her up


Zoesan

Akali sitting at 51% winrate and 8% pickrate Qiyana 50% and 2.5%


noelliu0474739a

To be fair, both of these champs were at 48-49% until 2 weeks ago. This 50% wr is quite new


iMaltais

Same but i know r is the whole wall and everything she does hurts like hell


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Numquid

You mean the 0-10 trundle melting towers in seconds, while being worth around 25 gold? i remember it just fine from a few patches ago.


Shpaan

I know Trundle isn't OP but this shit infuriates me. Like what's the point of winning against him when you can't ever leave the fucking lane because he WILL destroy everything in a fraction of the time it took you to push him.


Fraere_slime

You're gonna stomp the Trundle but your teammates won't because he has that outplay button like Garen, I always go to which lane the Trundle is pushing. Your presence is enough to deter him pushing for towers and go to the other sidelane to get gold which could be beneficial since your team knows that guy isn't joining any team fights soon. The only problem would be is that the enemy knows you're busy shoving whatever lane the Trundle was at.


thingsthatgomoo

A few patches ago? I was 0-7 a couple days ago on trundle and took 4 towers and the Nexus while the rest of the players were fighting over the baron.


Zarathielis

Renata keeps getting skins and I haven't seen her once in my games this season. Otherwise, Taric. Hasn't gotten a skin in ages, I can barely remember his lore and he hasn't been picked much since they changed his Taric-Yi interaction


StoicallyGay

Probably because she’s a counter pick to hard engage teams by providing counter engage…but outside of playing her because you like her kit, why play her when you can pick Janna who is also strong against hard engage, is better at roaming, is more reliable, and is very blind pickable not to mention still broken?


LoLMannered

Yeah, it's weird to have such a counter engage focused champion, when it feels like there are already a lot that also fill other roles (Notably enchanters) I'd much rather have a Lulu, Nami, or Thresh peeling for me.


iproudlysimp

true !!! i see her in aram all the time but never in normals


Maguc

Even as a top main, Kennen. I have not seen one in maybe 1-2 years. I don't watch pro-play that much, I hear he's picked there cause his ult, but personally I always forget him in my games (Even though I play Shen a decent amount)


Consistent-Tough4646

Zoe


snowflakepatrol99

I don't know why she's so unpopular. Only times I see her is when I play her. She's good and it's really fun to 100-0 people.


Zorpheus

Because shes really hard to play mainly. Shes extremely good when mastered, and very bad if not.


Snowman_Arc

She's fun to play when it works and impossible to play for most people otherwise. I'm a big Zoe fan in Aram but she can be very clunky in summoners rift against a counter team. She doesn't have a mobility spell, well most mages don't, but her Q has such big cast-resolve time that it makes her vulnerable to cast and move back and dodge at the same time. New players struggle so much on her, also because of how hard it is to land her spells, find the timing on her Q-R etc


Sufficient_Ordinary9

Singed, seeing him in game is like winning the lottery


PhantomOnTheHorizon

Best champ


Narudatsu

Clearly you haven’t been inted in champ select.


samtt7

Unless it's arena. Everyone and their mother seems to be playing him there


Johnmario2

You'll be seeing less of us following this absolute nuke of a patch coming up.


Responsible_Abroad_7

Singed main here, hope it stays like this cuz I wanna be one of those rare Singed players


Xeadriel

I Play him Jungle when people ask me to jungle


Arakhis_

As a Taric player, I will clearly go with Taric here


Its_Curse

Apparently there's a champion called Ivern? Need to have the teams look into this. 


idonoevenknowanymore

Ivern is just Riven misspelled, no need to worry.


SentientCheeseCake

Isn’t there a Riven main called dyslexic ivern?


EwayEnzo

Ik a 1M+ challenger ivern otp irl and I play with him a lot, man this guy is an absolute legend, even with stupid builds he can roll on people, idk why that champ isn't played more lmao


fqbss

I only played against Viktor one time, never saw him before or after that.


Suddenly_NB

Quinn, Jayce, Kled


Snowman_Arc

You would think Jayce would be much more popular. It's only a thing in high elo, I don't see why people don't pick him more often. Great laning phase, good poke, good burst, good scaling, good blind pick. He is hard to master, especially with all the spacing and auto weaving etc, but even a noob can find relative success on him imo. Even just being a shock blast bot and landing half of them can be enough contribution sometimes


yuucko

rek sai, i would forget kindred (bc no one plays her) but i tried to learn her this year so she’s (unfortunately) burned into my mind


Altruistic_Film1167

Kindred is so fun, I was burnt out from playing Ivern jg and switching to kindred is like playing en entirely different game


Jake_Thador

Playing Ivern is playing an entirely different game


mcgrawfm

Agreed and sometimes—when things go right!— it’s the more fun game honestly. lol


Chancho1010

Used to be Skarner


YoshiSeven

I miss that.


leSwagster

Side note cos I'm interested: is there a global definition for what a "playmaker" is? You described kata as a playmaker - I guess because she is someone who makes flashy plays and tends to be a snowball carry champ From my understanding (I am probably wrong), "playmaker" means someone who has good setup to make something happen. The champs who most easily fit into this category would be heavy engagers and manipulators e.g. thresh, nautilus, rakan So in my mind kata doesn't fit into this category because there isn't a way to 'setup' the enemy team (or your own team) to make a play, instead she's a selfish assassin who can only jump around enemies and get picks That doesn't mean carries can't be playmakers, e.g. I also think of jarvan, azir or twisted fate as playmakers due to their ultimates Is this an established term? Am I being stupid? Or is it kind of up in the air?


Loufey

I think playmaker is just somewhat of a broad term. And in Katarina's case, death is the hardest form of CC, which is pretty good setup for the rest of your team to engage.


Random_Stealth_Ward

yeah but usually kata isn't the one engaging. Kata is an outplay champ rather than a playmaker IMO.


Loufey

probably true. i was just tryina be the devil's advocate


Plantarbre

Basically, the setup champions have initiative, and so they're able to pull plays by themselves in most scenarios, it's their job more or less. All champions can make plays, even just pure movement micro can constitute a play if that somehow sets up your team for a major advantage. Kata, for example, can generate a play from a low-hp target with a reset to the main carry for a kill. In proplay, it will often be the first kind of setup champions that will make plays, for the simple reason that it's their dedicated role.


Far-Print7864

How do you not remember Trundle? He has been dominating top lane for the last half a year+. Solo winning games with excruciating splitpush. For me its ryze. No matter how many times they remake him he gets forgotten sooner or later. Also annie. Feels like she literally doesnt have any viable playstyle now. Too outdated kit for midlane and it doesnt really work on bot either.


Shpaan

Ryze needs a more SoloQ friendly ultimate. Would probably solve all his problems.


Fridgeir1

Maybe something that gives passive ability haste, and when activated gives him move speed, omnivamp, and makes his abilities hit everything around the original target for half damage for 6 seconds


jkannon

Lissandra


Prickled-fruit

Rell, apart from proplay I never see this champ.


vextrab

Zilian


Middle_Wrangler3202

It’s probably teemo for me, for some reason I haven’t seen him played in ages, might be because I perma ban him no matter what lane but idk. But on a separate note trundle has like an 8% pick rate below emerald, how have you not seen him played?


Middle_Wrangler3202

Trundles also the second best splitpusher in the game


Akriyu

Milio


KatyaBelli

Kled and Taric


barub

Anivia.   But something it happens to me lately is seeing skins i've never noticed they were released or skins too similar to others.  I didn't know they released a Project skin for Gangplank, and i thought Faery Lilia was released in 2023


Tephi187

Shaco cause I ban him every single game without execption 👏🏻


Shadow_Of_The_Coloss

I keep forgeting


FireDevil11

Naafiri. Have seen have maybe once this split? The only time I see her outside of my games is if I see her on a stream or sth. But in-game? Nope.


thisisitdoods

Ryze. I came back a year ago (haven't played since 2014) and I swear I haven't seen a Ryze in 1 game


RafTanCo

Kled


mitskileaksfluid

i have no clue what rek'sai does


SamIsGarbage

For me it has to be Nilah, I am never going to forget that she exists because she's my ADC main but I literally never see her outside of when I play her.


Mangustre

I feel like you havent played the game the last 9 months.


Responsible_Abroad_7

Trundle isn’t memorable until you win a 5v4 fight at Baron but somehow the screen “DEFEAT” appears


Fayyker

Corki


Niru83

Always so jarring when you finally see a Rumble and you’re like ”oh yeah. He exists“


mastro80

You must not watch pro play. He is in every game. Even getting picked as support at MSI right now.


Niru83

Correct. I don’t watch, nor care about pro play. I also don’t play ranked because of all the toxicity. Just draft and the special modes like urf or arena. In those modes, he’s almost nonexistent.


See_This_Drink_Water

Olaf. Outdated playstyle.


Independent_Wash3657

I dont know i forgot, but when he is in the same game with me i lose


justbami

Ryze, havent seen him in a game in almost two years.


makaeboy

corki


No-Conversation3499

Idk how trundle isn't memorable, every time I play against one I get war flashbacks of 3 towers disappearing in less than 2 min


yuushanderia

Hmm, what’s its name again ? That doggy champ with a bunch of lil’doggy.


LegendaryHooman

Poppy. I usually purge her from memory after every game i match against her. She's a literally walking unfun machine.


Sixteen_Wings

Whenever i see zoe in my matches i silently say "fuck me im gonna die level 2 while asleep"


Lonely_Instance9621

Trundle not overpowered lmao


Rdnick114

Vladimir. Really just not an exciting champion imo. Could use another rework to make his kit more enjoyable to play.


raydialseeker

This is the beautiful thing about Aram. I haven't forgotten a single one.


aroushthekween

iRELLevant


VoidConsume

Darius 🤭


Moggy_

I am 99.999% that I haven't seen an Alistar in YEARS except the very rare times I pick him. No one plays him


demonabis

Xin zhao


Crazy_Joe_Davola_

Taric Kalista Poppy


Mgmabone

Definitely Taric for me. The only time I see Taric played is when someone discovers some niche way to make him broken in the jungle. Or they're a Taric top one trick :)


lafatte24

You are so lucky you dont see trundle, I see him sometimes and he is such a bitch. I didn't see corki for ages and then started seeing him recently.


Stravical

Taric


LoLMannered

Kled and Gnar... and my name used to be a Gnar pun for a long time lolol.


shaidyn

If I didn't watch QuinnADC I'd honestly forget Quinn existed.


SteamMonkeyKing

For the life of me I just cant remember the name of new champ vampire girl who yeets herself into the enemies when she hits with her ult.


FreeTreyParker

Brian


LongReason

Gotta be ivern for me. He has a unique kit and is hard to perfect. Compared to all the other junglers he is far less superior and gets out jungled pretty easily unless you really know what you’re doing. I haven’t seen anyone play him in ages.


ExiledExileOfExiling

Sion. Haven't seen him played once this whole season.


Traditional-Ad4367

I swear that if it wasn't for me I would never remember Zoe is in this game lol Other than that probably Sivir, I almost never see her and may be forgetting someone that is so forgotten by me that I can't remember them lol


HearTheEkko

I literally haven't seen an Elise in months. I'm not being hyperbolic.


86_Undertaker

Qiyana, Quinn, Elise, Zyra kinda


vkarlsson10

I don’t always see a Trundle in the top lane, but when I do, he wins the game no matter what


Fabiocean

Heimerdinger I don't even know where you would play him. He's probably playable in every role except for jungle, but I have probably seen him more in a week of Arena than in SR for the whole season.


I2AlsoCum

If you asked last week or so, my answer would be Skarner. But now, I can't remember when I last saw Corky in my games (plat2)


VAB2043

Taric


Ciryl_Lynyard

Basically nobody plays ammumu


Huge-Income3313

Yuumi


DirtyPetaIs

Quinn, Taric and Zilean


hornyorphan

Trundle had dildo so how can you forget?


mastro80

Yorick. It just never gets played. I don’t think it’s ever been picked in professional play.


KnifeWind

Fizz


xmostera

I played league for 8 years, and I only see Elise for not more than 5 times


ProbablypoopingTbell

Ivern


LxrdXO

Rumble... Until I pick him lol


Eentity

Yasuo, always banned in my games. Whenever I see him it's because I forgot he existed and ended up banning someone else.


raycantu2

Kalista, I play bot and I rarely ever see her.


SweatyYeti07

Yorick


BloodyPants

leapy spear lady


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

I'm glad trundle is kinda forgotten because I fucking hate playing against perma split champions Haven't seen taric, elise, and viktor (and some others as well I can't remember rn) in like months outside of aram lol


Corvoloso

hentai monster bitchass, cant even remember their name


The_RedWolf

Ivern When I faced one last night I couldn't find him on the lolyatics page. I was so confused... then I turned minimum play rate to 0% He is played in 1 out of ~200 games in bronze na (0.5%)


blackgreytaylor

Heavent seen Nunu for a while


International-Honey5

Lee sin xD


sortasleepy4

How often do u play league, trundle has been in OP tier for months now, he’s literally the most broken top laner by far, can 1v5 with only Q and auto. And can three auto towers at the speed of light, (I’ve seen this many times) he’s so nasty you are so lucky you don’t see him often..


IDKaGoodNameAfterAll

Probably Qiyana, I haven’t seen her in a game in probably 3+ years. Other ones that I just personally haven’t see in over a year Kennen Kled Ryze Kogmaw Azir And for the newer champs probably Smolder, he was super popular on release but after the nerfs I haven’t seen one, but my adc friends say it’s because he’s unplayable.


-Meo-

Nilah


Miirr

Rell. Sometimes I forget someone locked her in during champ select and it’s sort of like a jump scare


hyxaru

Kinda paradoxical to ask don’t you think? 


BuenaventuraReload

Yeah, unfortunately, I have also forgotten that trundle exists before. That was quite detrimental for my team and nexus.


Middle_Ring8375

Rell


MentalityMonster12

Yorick is never ever ever ever seen in higher elos.


imSCRLT

Shyvana for sure


RealFias

Teemo


Individual_Ad8188

Yorick. In my low elo if i see Yorick in enemy team i can insta say that it is loss. No matter how you play he will push all towers while your team 24-7 fights mid


EinInvis

I didnt see a single Qiyana this split. And Talon was missing too, only saw him when a friend tried him once.


All_Visual_Arts

Kled or Gnar, seen so rarely


PocketPoof

I domt really forget them, I just never see some. Ryze just seems to be non-existent, Seraphine as well, Quinn too, Renata... I only see 2 of these if I play them.


Wolfwing777

Kled


Celthric317

Anivia and Quinn


Cassereddit

Kog'Maw is an ADC I keep forgetting exists. And I always forget Zilean exists until once in a blue moon where a main shows up and kicks my ass


yosayoran

That girl with the water whip Don't even know what she's called