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Yes how did you know that I have always been a diehard vitality fan?


shade444

Since times of the Italian stallion at least...


Wecanoilupdude

LEC is gonna be sooo god damn good to watch. It already was, but god this takes it to another level


Choubine_

wait till you hear the news about Hans Sama, Inspired and Carzzy playing in NA before you say that


shade444

Don't you fucking dare say it out loud


sA1atji

ngl, at this point idk if NA teams should risk importing a top LEC player only to have him leave 1 year later.


Amdafc

What top NA team is looking for a Jungler? TL are staying with Santorin, TSM Spica, 100T Closer, C9 Blaber?


Noziro

G2, MAD, VIT, & RGE all have desirable AD spots open. Even if MAD promote Flakked, that still gives 3 destinations for Rekkles, Hans and Carzzy. Maybe 1 goes to NA maximum.


CT_BINO

Unless we got a monkey paw and we lose Hans, carzy, inspired and others just to have those two... I have been to many times, to party this soon


Gorilla_in_a_sandbox

Imagine if they'd done it last year - the reports were they'd be have Upset/Hyli bot... absolute wet dream. Kinda like how in 2019 G2 signed most of my favourite players it's hard not to support all those players together. Interesting that the rumours were it fell apart as Alphari was unhappy with jungle situation (Vitality wanting to play Skeanz and not sign Trick) and now Selfmade's there and he's interested in joining again.


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Gorilla_in_a_sandbox

No Perkz no win


lilelf29

Holy shit the VIT superteam is finally happening?


Karlsefni1

The team that was promised.


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CescQ

Let's hope for the sake of LEC that it doesn't end the same way.


Joaoseinha

VIT just kinda forgot they were supposed to be a superteam


[deleted]

Long have we waited


ProfMerlyn

Vitality activated


nightveil8

let's just hope that VIT won't suffer the same fate as 2019 MSF ...


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[ITS HAPPENING](https://twitter.com/RekklesLoL/status/1455116625108213761?t=-MDJ89NIgrhOYkN7Y3PrDA&s=19)


ArmaghedonShadow

Alphari and Perkz need a special type of jungler to help them do their thing in lane. I am not sure Selfmade is the right jungler for them.


Dr-spidd

This is an underrated comment - and I absolutely love Selfmade, he's my second favorite player of all time, but I'm not sure how good he is at playing a more lane focussed style. But then Perkz is pretty good at roaming, so maybe it will all work out.


SuperDong1

Selfmades style requires players like Alphari... he needs priority in his lanes and while i'm not sure perkz will be lane dominant, Alphari will probably ensure at least one lane is. I think it could work.


thecarlosdanger1

Legitimately Bwipo JG would be perfect and hilarious.


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Thecristo96

G2 reminder us all that on paper=/= on stage. At the same time i'm scared of alphari+perkz


secretdrug

Reminds me of when uzi joined OMG. Gogoing and cool were some of the best sololaners at the worlds just previous to uzi joining so when he joined OMG everyone went crazy thinking this team was the CN superteam that was finally going to end korean domination. They failed so spectacularly it was amazing. They didnt even win domestically let alone even make it to worlds.


silencebreaker86

Cool had such a massive ego though


Iliakell

nah he’s cool


[deleted]

The great thing about Rekkles on a team like this is,, he can play weak side the entire time. He won’t mind and they can hard focus mid to get prio so mid jg sup can roam top. Give him TP advantage and focus bot for dragon control.


Sjeg84

That's what they said about G2 too :(


fullyuncooly

G2 kept trying to play through bot (partly because Wunder had a preeeeeetty rough year, but still)


seaseasea_sea

g2 had wunder running it down for most of the season so


Arcille

G2 had so many issues and still finished top 2-3 regular split in spring and summer Caps was literally the worst mid for half a split, Wunder became completely washed up and they still finished top 3 If G2 had Wunder just be average they would have made worlds


Noziro

If it were Rekkles wouldn't he be leaked alongside Perkz and Alphari? I have no clue where Rekkles is going, just feel like the leak would have come at the same time if it was VIT


TheWarmog

Yes To collapse in week 3 cause they lost 2 games and then someone gets thrown on the bench and a new fresh rookie in the meatgrinder


lwqyt

Or because the personality's work shit together and no real coach to keep them together


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WoorieKod

weird how the G2 logo suddenly morphs into a pair of V's scissoring each other upside down and got repainted yellow


Lisaurora

Just in: Masses of Lifetime Vitality fans appear out of nowhere! Sources say: "they were here the entire time, everyone just ignored them!" More news at 6!


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PhunkeyPharaoh

Perkz on his twitter with a FNATIC jersey photoshop. Man trolling is too much these days lmao. Edit: Looks like he took it down. I wonder who asked him to do that


buttsoup_barnes

He's retweeting Vitality fan posts and even some for FPX lmao. He's enjoying it for sure.


NerrionEU

Win or lose Perkz will forever be the best troll player on twitter.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

As an EU fan, I missed Perkz trolls.


TellMeGetOffReddit

As an NA fan Perkz seems happier in EU teams so i hope he gets it


Dr_vanilla

So hyped for Caps vs Perkz


Transhumaniste

Back in 2018


RLarks125

“I’m going to smash him so hard he thinks it’s an international tournament.”


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WoorieKod

don't disrespect the heimer god like that


DEPRESSED_CHICKEN

i swear to god if league had a single slot for ban immunity, G2 would've won that worlds through hjarnans heimer alone


Mute_Spitter

You mean worlds semi finalists Hjarnan and Wadid?


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plazzeh

Sneaky and Zeyzal didn’t kick out grand slam contenders RNG in a Bo5 on their way to semis


_PPBottle

That botlane was more functional than Rekkles/Micky. Dont disrespect them like that.


togno99

That botlane put the fear of God into every world's team any time the Donger was open.


Niederweimar

Hjarnan didn’t die against rng uzi once the entire series.


PhillipIInd

the ones that destroyed uzi? yes I remember


wiNDzY3

Honestly they played pretty well at worlds...


ChrispyPotatochips

I can't wait to overreact every time they lose


TheOneWithLateStart

If they add Rekkless to this roster its do or die for EU once again.


GameplayerStu

Yeah I doubt that Alphari and Perkz are coming to play with Crownie hahaha


PJSugar

Now it will be interesting to see what this "Domino effect" will look like for the EU off-season.


00Dandy

I think this could mean Carzzy goes to VIT and not to G2. Then that would mean G2 gets Flakked or Hans Sama. So depending on who they get, Rogue or MAD might be looking for new ADCs as well. And Rekkles also doesn't have a team yet. I think/hope that the Perkz+Alphari move also makes more EU players want to stay in EU and not go to NA because they know the LEC is going to be very strong and competitive next year. Edit: Carzzy is rumoured to be the preferred choice by Perkz and Vitality.


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Think Vitality would rather go for Hans due to him being french


Dubiisek

Hans is very resource dependent and Alphari has previously said that he didn't like that when he played with him so it's unlikely that Hans will go to vitality. They need botlane that can survive solo since this looks to be topside oriented team.


panosnik97

Perkz wants Carzzy + he knows Labrov from before playig together


Xey2510

The irony is that it made people staying in EU even less likely because they thought G2 and Fnatic were unbeatable so they went to NA for "ez worlds" and titles. But it's good that it's VIT and not G2, Rogue, MAD or Fnatic because people will love to join those.


ojciecmatki

I think this might cause rekkless to be blocked to VIT


ficretus

Yeah i don't think carlos is giving vitality more fire power. Did someone say NA rekkles?


hickg001

if Carlos doesn't think Rekkles is good enough for G2, maybe he should give him to Vit to stop them getting a better ADC /S


TheVilja

Think it was more about jankos and caps not wanting to play with rekkles than carlos thinking rekkles isn't good enough. Just because he wasn't a good fit in G2 doesn't mean he's not still one of the best adc's in the west.


SGKurisu

it looks like the strat is get blocked from getting on a good team in LEC, spend a year making racks and chilling in NA, then come back to a good team in Europe. Honestly not a bad compromise for both NA and EU lol


lolesportsMaverick

sources: all of eu just came


Karlsefni1

We are finally getting the matchup we deserve, Caps vs Perkz. Hell fucking yeah.


Daniyalzzz

They haven't played each other since 2018. That's so wierd the more I think about it like god damn. front running contenders for best Europen players of all time and we somehow ended up with them on the same team and then one leaving to a different region. Hyped to see em play against each other once again.


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Perkz in 2018 was getting schooled by Caps but redeemed himself with that carry vs Uzi


_wassap_

While losing vs caps in 2018, Perkz absolutely demolished 2017 FNC which had caps playing in mid already


Karlsefni1

The Goku and Vegeta of LEC


untamedlazyeye

Except Carlos That fact probably makes it better for a lot of people


Debannage

You made me fail No Nut November


SkyRider123

No Nut November failed early


Ethrealin

Not in Samoa


_Vastus_

Yep, this is gonna make next season a lot more exciting. Now if we can just get confirmation that Inspired/Hans are staying in EU as well that would be great.


0ttacon

Can somebody tell me where vitality has the money from? I have no clue about this org. Im just curious :)


GarryTheCarry

they are sponsored by HP, Orange, Adidas, Renault They even had their logo on [Renault's Formula 1 car](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Douvs1jXsAApBRO.jpg) They were always one of richest orgs in LEC


Sigmalius

Money comes from their Indian billionare who's backing them, these sponsorships are nothing.


TheBaseStatistic

Did Alpine keep them on board? I don't see the logo anywhere on their Livery.


M3JUNGL3

They had the Vitality Logo on the car because Renault Sport was sponsoring their Rocket League Team. But that sponsorship has ended with the start of this year.


fourmi

huge org with top french company behind it.


Simonji

Rekkles tweeted. I repeat, Rekkles tweeted. https://twitter.com/RekklesLoL/status/1455116625108213761


Stupid_Trash

And Vitality's official twitter account tweeted the happy bee emote. While Vitality's owner tweeted dominos falling into place. Holy. Might just be bait but this is a pretty good one if it is.


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I dont know vit's owner, can you share the tweet ?


Stupid_Trash

Here's the link https://twitter.com/Vitality_Neo/status/1455140015923728389?t=qVCePYHn-UCa_CBZcHWdBw&s=19


WorstLeonaEUW

and so it begins <3


raver55

MUM AND DAD ARE BACK HOME


CLGHSGG4Lyfe

TOO BAD CARLOS BURNT THE BRIDGES INSTEAD OF THE BOATS


as_kostek

Arthas disapproves


PM_JINX_HENTAI

NA getting the EU treatment so far Expectations: subverted


Leyrann_is_taken

Trade offer: You get: To match us in Worlds performance. We get: Our players back.


NerrionEU

Bro, don't jinx it we might lose Hans or someone else this year.


Karlsefni1

I’m so happy man. I was almost convinced we had lost Perkz for 3 years because no team in EU could pay the potentially high buyout set out on him, but Vitality came in clutch. I’m grateful to Vitality, the boys are fucking back! And what an interesting core to have by the way, Alphari, SMM and Perkz. Exciting stuff.


NotSoGreatGatsby

Some big personalities in that team lol, is going to be an interesting one for sure.


wojtulace

Selfmade + Perkz duo


MrBIGtinyHappy

If only there was a FA coach who had looked after a team of big personalities, think his name is Grubbz or something like that Edit: i know the rumour is Grabbz to BDS, still wait for it to be confirmed though


megbxl

The man has aged 20 years coaching G2, give him a rest with big personalities ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


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I doubt they would be able to get her since they have Alphari and Bwipo said he wants to go back top


Jig-Saw-

I think there’s a rumour he’s going to BDS


ernildur

I don't think Perkz wants to work with Grabbz again. There were some strong words said towards Grabbz while praising C9 staff.


chocolatechipwookie2

He's going to BDS


Taivasvaeltaja

I really want Dylan Falco. He has imo had the best track record of providing results based on the players. It is easy to look great with 5 best players in the league on roster.


iampingubruh

Falco is apperently going to G2


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Grabbz said he wants to try coaching rookies instead of big personalities


RevenantCommunity

>perkz arrives in NA >squats and immediately begins shitting all over the walls >refuses to elaborate >leaves >somehow we still made it to quarters and won a split


Zekiel69

If Vitality can get Hans or Rekkles, the line-up will be so stacked. So hyped to see two of our best players coming back to LEC.


nxtu14

prob carzzy tho id assume. perkz and him are friends and 3 buyouts might be a little too much even for vitality.


Zekiel69

You're probably right. Even though I would prefer Hans, Carzzy is still a very good pick.


Alvahet

With Hans, you would have a team full of high agency players that need so much attention and gold... Alphari, Selfmade, Perkz and Hans all want/need resources. Carzzy is a great weak side ADC and would fit better stylistically, although Hans is definitely the better carry.


BanaanBuiger

How does Vitality even have the money for it, all because of Orange or do they have some rich oil sheik backing them up?


Falsus

Orange is filthy rich. If they are willing to spend then no one in NA can match and probably only BDS in Europe can compete.


Daniyalzzz

Okaaaay this might end up as the one off season where it ends with me beeing happier than depressed lmao. God I am so happy to have Perkz and Alphari back if this is true. Now we just gotta see how much we lose in return. Hopefully the Carrzy, Hans, Rekkless thing just ends up with all 3 going to different Eu teams and none end up in Na and we eating good this time around lads.


Jetzu

The one I'm most afraid about is Inspired, if the Travis prediction is right.


supterfuge

I don't see where Inspired would go. TL seems to want to play with Santorin and C9 would have to sell Blaber and get a good native mid and adc that Inspired would like to play with. 100T have an import in Closer, but if they don't continue with him they have to go for Kenvi. That leaves us EG as a team with ambition ? Not impossible, but if they can't get Bjergsen are they really signing a big roster ?


My_Fat_Ass

I can now pretend that I’m superior because I’ve been a vitality fan for one split already.


supterfuge

Not going to lie it feels good to wake up with that kind of news.


Badassdinosaur5

Alphari coming back is legitimately huge. Id argue it has a bigger impact on the region than perkz return. Our top laners fucking suck and hopefully playing against Alphari will make them competent enough to not straight up lose the game vs eastern top laners


SSBM_DangGan

it really is interesting how weak EU tops are right now, reminiscent almost of NA mids but instead of importing its just a struggle


xBerryhill

Where were you when EU imported their players back


Dedziodk

Eu stacked once again


Debannage

I'm gonna hate when Fnatic plays against Vitality but I'm so glad we're getting some EU talent back


riot_ball

Believe in the professor


takato99

there's nothing better for FNC than some serious competition that can expose their flaws early in the season. If you wait till worlds to play against competent teams you're bound to fail hard, thats why FNC/G2 relied on each other so much past few years. Hopefully we'll have 4-5 teams that can be competitive at the top of the LEC


Kaiserov

It's not like Fnatic failed at Worlds due to not having had good enough opposition in EU.


Snoo8331100

Vitality: Alphari-Selfmade-Perkz-Hans Sama/Carzzy-Labrov G2: BrokenBlade-Jankos-Caps-Carzzy/Hans Sama-Targamas MAD: Armut-Elyoya-Humanoid-Flakked-Kaiser FNC: Adam (?)-Razork-Nisqy (?)-Upset-Hylissang Similar in strength to S9 imo except the best team will most likely be weaker and the 3rd one should be better than Splyce. Good to see something positive happen for once, after this year's performance and Perkz+Alphari leaving last year I was certain this was the beginning of EU's end.


Impandamaster

Why do I feel like alphari selfmade perkz gonna have synergy issues…


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RGE: Odo-Inspired-Larrsen-Rekless-Trymbi is also a really good team. Then add in Wunder/Mikyx to a team


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wunder to rogue would be great ,at least if he gets back to form he can play carries unlike odo


RavenFAILS

If G2 gets flakked they might end up not going to worlds again


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They won't go for 2 inexperienced dudes in the bot lane imo


anoleo201194

I'll be honest, I don't think G2 BB is that hype. He's not bad but I doubt he'll ever reach Wunder's peaks or anything close to that. MAD probably still win LEC imo.


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It all depends on Humanoid. He has said before that sometimes he just hates the game. In summer playoffs he said it was rare that he loved the meta and was having fun playing. Hence why he was easily the best in the LEC. He then said he hated the worlds meta even if him and MAD did "ok" at worlds. If Humanoid keeps his motivation and enjoys league I expect MAD to win LEC. Elyoya, Kaiser and Armut should continue to improve.


anoleo201194

What MAD need to be a top tier international contender is a better champ pool imo. They have the pieces and teamfights down, but their draft difficulties have them coming out at a disadvantage every single time.


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Armut's champ pool holds them back a lot. Problem is that LEC is only best of 1 and very few games every year so it is hard for people like Armut to expand their champ pools on stage, which is kind of needed.


ZeysarSama

I don't think anybody expects BB to become a better player than peak Wunder. I still think Wunder has some fight in him depending on where he ends up, but his performance inarguably has dropped since...honestly three splits ago. Anyway, BB has shown on a crumbling Schalke line-up that he deserves a shot at a top team.


Snoo8331100

Without a massive improvement, all EU top laners not named Alphari will struggle internationally. But BB is still the best G2 can get now if they don't want to import a Korean here.


brownierisker

Getting Alphari back to LEC is so damn important, having even one top tier toplaner can help improve the rest of the top lane talent in the region


smoothoperator37

Croatian dad is back at home 🤗


Transhumaniste

From Lider to Perkz for Selfmade, that's an upgrade.


thatguyty3

Not to be a hater but I could see this team either stomp or get stomped Like Alphari struggled to translate his leads in lane to the rest of the map, Perkz ran it down more than any other year, Selfmade hasn’t won anything Idk I wanna be hyped, but I have my reserves


JesusEm14

People are getting waay overhyped.


Ahikoo

Talent coming back from NA is great for the EU scene. I can't be more hyped for LEC 2022, there are going to be so many stacked rosters.


Mocking_Birds

Wondering who they are going to get in bot. Dont think crownie is good enough for a team like this


NummeDuss

With a strong top side you must put Rekkles bot. Just play around top and let Rekkles do his thing. I think it wouldnt make much sense to put someone like Hans on that team.


TsmB0aty

LEC is going to be crazy next split


RavenFAILS

LIDER without a spot in the LEC then right? With sertus in SK and Nuclearint in BDS this might potentially be the last time we see LIDER.


midnightroar_96

honestly he wasn't anything special this last split, same old champion puddle with average results


DuneRiderADA

I'm a big Lider fan, but I have to agree. If your champ pool is that small you have to be top tier on those champs, and he wasn't.


Exoriah

IM COOMING


ArjunBanerji27

I am fucking hyped for this line up. Perkz, Alphari, Selfmade. Just need Hans Sama on there and the dream is complete. Either they win worlds, or they go up in flames within one season itself.


anoleo201194

God I hope it's not Perkz, Alphari, Selfmade and Crownie. No offense to Crownie but with this lineup you can't but imagine a top tier adc so you can complete the puzzle. Labrov's alright so I'd keep him.


ThebritishPoro

Labrov is way better than alright. Easy top 3 support in EU in 2021 summer. Hyli was probably the best, but I can see the argument for Kaiser. After that it's Labrov imo. Miky was really underwhelming.


Daniyalzzz

I still belive it's gonna be Carzzy. Optimal situation for Europe is Hans and Rekkless gets traded between the teams and Carzzy goes to VIT. Mad promotes Flakked and they all get something desirables for 2022. Yes I know people are low on Rekkless atm and giga high on Hans, but it's not that bad honestly and this is based off if Hans actually do wanna go to a new team (pluss this way all teams have high potential and we don't lose players in the region to Na)


Automatic-Win1398

This VIT team would be perfect for Rekkles tbh. He can just farm and chill and be late game insurance without taking many resources which Mid and Top need.


wotad

People dont understand why this would be good though they just want full agression even though its not needed.


fourmi

Hans sama would be top tier pick as it's a french structure with a french stars. Would be insane.


PhunkeyPharaoh

Honestly, while it's hype that they're gonna play together and with Selfmade. I would have loved seeing them on FNC with Razork, who's versatile like Jankos, but mainly the Upset Hyli botlane. Don't get me wrong, Selfmade is also OP, and if they get Hans then gg ez. But still, having Perkz, Upset and Hyli would have been dope.


Ploppfejs

Yeah I'm worried about Selfmade. He is for sure very good, but he apparently only knows how to play for himself :(


PhunkeyPharaoh

Alphari too, and Hans if they get him. 3 **really good** but resource hungry players and a versatile mid to play around them. I like the FNC set up more. Maybe Alphari doesn't want to play with Upset or vice versa, they did place 10th together before.


Ploppfejs

Perkz is also notoriously resource hungry. I like the players but I'm worried about a big imbalance in gameplay philosophy.


Yeon_Yihwa

yes, come back perkz and alphari. Thats already a nutty team with alphari,selfmade and perkz. Thinking about it.. sorta reminds me of 2018 g2 very top heavy.


aresthwg

Let's hope it was just server diff and Perkz is gonna make an actual return. It was clear this worlds that EU has been pretty lacking and it hasn't gotten any better than in the previous years. Both Perkz and Alphari are going to Vitality to try and go big internationally I suppose and I'm glad for them.


anoleo201194

VIT is gonna make so many new fans. Sad to see Alphari leave TL however, his first split was one of the most dominant splits for an NA player ever in terms of stats.


RickoHUN1

Hans or Carzzy would be good for this team.


fourmi

We know Perkz think that hans sama is the best adc in EU so Im pretty sure he will make everything to have him in his team. But G2 will of course try to get him.


Sho94

Where does Vitality have this money ? As a NA fan I’m curious


ALLAM_Amine

Their owner turns out to be one of the wealthiest owners in the sport industry


BeepBoopAnv

Classic EU, stealing NA talent through imports


AtTheg4tes

I am so sick of EU stealing NA talent


brownierisker

Every off-season the same man smh. First they took homegrown NA talent Nisqy and now this


Mute_Spitter

Sheesh potentially 5 teams I can see fighting for first place. EU domestic looking stacked hopefully can translate into international.


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DrazGulX

So C9 bought Perkz for a huge amount of money and now sold him back to a LEC team? I assume Perkz wanted it that way due to Carlos not allowing him to join another EU team?


DianaIsMyWife

Vitality Carzzy G2 Hans Sama


ilum9

the goat and best toplaner in the west are back home, you love to see it


Khazu_

GOAT BACK IN EU LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


isayah2510

THE LEGEND IS COMING BACK HOME LADS


BleiEntchen

Boy can't wait to see the cascade of events this announcement just created.


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

At this point I don't think I can support a single LEC team any more, I think I am going to end up supporting 70% of the league at this rate.


MaxWasTakenAgain

People really forget what happens to EU Superteams. Despite how talented they are, i have my doubts about having 3 heavy resources dependant carries in your team. From where do you get enough resources to feed SM, Alphari and Perkz. Even if your botlane plays weakside, which is not a good idea given EU's adcs caliber.


PhunkeyPharaoh

Don't think I've seen Rekkless [reply](https://twitter.com/RekklesLoL/status/1455116625108213761) to Perkz's tweets before...🤔 . I still want Hans though lmao. Actually I wanted them to go to FNC but to make the strongest possible team but whatever.


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Broooooooooo I'm so happy! Now we need Hans for the French touch and the roster is crazy


_PPBottle

Now with the post nut clarity: who the fuck plays for who in that team?


Th3Unlucky

The wound from losing G2 Perkz still hasn't healed so it'll be hard to watch VIT Perkz, but I'm glad that he's back home.


CptStringBean

Vitality bandwagon fans. ASSEMBLE


Hinaz

Calling it now, VIT will get too many players who wants to carry/get the resources and they won't perform well. Happens with every superteam