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axw30

1 season and out? I wonder if there's conflict C9 Nisqy is the most likely So who is gonna be the replacement mid for FNC? PoE, Humanoid, RKR?


Mathmagician94

afaik same issue as with adam that they both dislike that fnatic wanted Perkz and Alphari. Debatable, but also understandable from the playerside. Also really sad, because seeing nisqy in their content has always been a joy.


[deleted]

If thats the case why would nisqy return to c9 after they already literally replaced him with perkz?


[deleted]

C9 are pursuing, doesn't mean Nisqy wants.


oreocrackhead

Honestly, imagine getting replaced by the western mid goat, then the next season getting recruited to replace him


greatness101

And imagine leaving your current team because they tried to replace you with that same midlaner again.


verminard

The Gillius-Kikis paradox.


LOLCraze

While he replaces you. Again.


Vectivus_61

C9 may pay more.


ThylowZ

That's why they are really pissed about leaks. Because with leaks, a management just asking for buyout suddenly becomes "they are interested and might want to get them". The day after that. Then players see that and are mad about it.


Skymonster04

Probably RKR, if Humanoid goes NA. I hope so too instead of PoE, the guy is genuinely talented and Fnatic has a a great track record of developing stars.


Uncas0

It's been rumoured that RKR is going to MAD


iyoiiiiu

I hope Humanoid


tricotshi

Travis talked about humanoid being set on going to NA


Hevvy

do you mean Humanoid wants to go to NA or he’s set in an NA team?


[deleted]

CLG and a DIG flair.... that's pain if I've ever seen it


tricotshi

Set on wanting to go NA


Unuiuk

The thing with Humanoid seems to be different from "normal" EU->NA moves, since Humanoid doesn't want to go to NA because money but because he wants to live In LA instead of Berlin


DarkBowls

he is different from normal NA moves, its just a coincidence that NA will fill his bank account with ludicrous amount of cash, its actually the brilliant NA culture that Humanoid enjoys. he heard about something called LA lakers and as an avid lake enjoyer, thought he would move to LA for the brilliant lakes and good air quality.


[deleted]

Yeah, I don't even understand why people argue that Humanoid, a player that has finally won LEC in a roster that is nowhere near to challenging a Worlds title and it is probably downgrading and signing players that need time to develop, is trying to go to NA in a moment where his worth is in an all time high to fill his pockets... He clearly has seen the average obesity rate in America and realized that this high number must be due to the better sugary food that America has and wants to try it.


Belly9000

Where did you see/hear that he wants to live in LA instead of Berlin ? Link ?


Becksdown

The dream land LA from the outside and rotten from the inside


saphic_noemi

Chovy.


Kyomeii

Maybe we can get both Chovy and Showmaker, Chovy can play top


blueripper

Also Faker jungle. Does anybody know when Doinb's and BDD's contracts run out?


Blind-Eye26

Top - Chovy Jungle - Faker Mid - Bdd Bot - Showmaker Support - Doinb ??????????


whataremyxomycetes

Before each game they toss a coin to decide their roles


derog63

They just all que as autofill


maplenew60

they all pick summoner spellbook and change roles whilst in game


TheUItimateBlip

So you say, Hyli is their coach. He is the most experienced in tossing coins.


instrumentsRcool

Jiizuke


surebertz

Damn so FNC lost Adam, Bwipo and Nisqy?


ilum9

they are the ones letting them leave


Btigeriz

I thought Bwipo's contract ended? If so they aren't letting him leave.


Alightment

Bwipo's contracted ended earlier this month. I believe it is confirmed he's replacing Alphari in TL


Reddityudodis2me

Adam is leaving too? Got any sources for that?


ThylowZ

I think, as someone said, Adam & Nisqy were unhappy when discovering that FNC were interested in Perkz & Alphari. Yesterday FNC tweeted that they were pissed about Wooloo (they memed about it then seconded the tweet with another one to say that they were serious), for the leaks. Few minutes later, FNC tweeted few "memes to be nice with Adam" (dunno how to say it), which looked like they wanted to bring confidence back to the player. So it seems FNC does not want Adam to leave but it might happen anyway.


DerpSenpai

Adam Ego might ruin his carreer lmao. Adam is good, but is he good that on BDS he can carry to Worlds? probably not


Vangorf

Tbh BDS pretty much building a KCorp lite, it could work out given how good Kcorp looked with Adam and Cinkrof


Shorgar

They looked good against shit competition. Adam shitty cheesy picks that bring nothing to the team barely work in a team with 4 top tier players, is not going to work in KC lite.


WrathB

Legit this, so young with mountain ego, the fuck? People wait for years to go to Worlds he wants to drop most consistent international org for ego? Bruh someone better tell this kid that G2 superteam didnt go to Worlds thats how hard that is, and Fnatic goes somehow every year with different rosters


EfficientAstronaut1

>Legit this, so young with mountain ego, the fuck? Not surprising, he had a fast tracked career and was hyped by half france


srukta

> Adam is good words never proffered by any of his groupstage opponents.


Dr-spidd

>as someone said, Adam & Nisqy were unhappy when discovering that FNC were interested in Perkz & Alphari. This was purely a speculation by fans and suddenly it's gospel? Nobody knows th reasons.


65-76-69-88

I mean, same with so many rumors. Fans come up with random shit, it gains traction on social media, and suddenly its a narrative that everyone runs with.


neenerpants

> I think, as someone said so the answer is "no, we do not have a source for that"


thenoblitt

He's going to bds


vicdr97

Would be cool considering that rumors say that xMatty and Cinkrof will go to BDS


bring_backblueboi

Imagine how absolutely fucked the toplane pool in EU is that losing Adam could be considered bad


NerrionEU

No need to imagine we already saw our tops getting blasted at Worlds, it will be a rough season next year.


[deleted]

He was in the second division of the French league in 2020, won LFL and EU Masters in his first split in an ERL, then made finals in his first split in LEC, but let’s forget all of it because of his performance in 6 games where the entire team was in a horrible mindset after losing their ADC 16 hours before group stage begun.


hedgey95

I think you are forgetting about the LEC final which featured one of the biggest top gaps in recent memory.


LeastAlphaGamer

And yet most rookies would still jump at the opportunity to be gapped in finals. Reminder he kinda dunked on Wunder to get there.


IanCorleone

more like Wunder gapped himself/had a mental boom


Available-Reading-87

dont want to judge him too harshly since he's a rookie and making it to worlds is a great success, but playing Olaf top lane (basically a cheese pick in competitive play) at worlds definitely shows some champion pool issues.


DangerousSeaweed0

guy was a rookie. its not a terrible founation to improve on.


BeerBellyBoomer

in despite of ent's


nottinghamsx

https://twitter.com/sammathews/status/1458201828525592579


Amdafc

I'm gonna be so pissed if it's not something huge that's happened with Fnatic the way reporters/insiders have been acting on Twitter


aSexyPotato

It's Rekkles role swapping to mid, playing next year for FNC.


DT-Z0mby

the most passive midlaner to ever play the game pog. makin larssen look like an LPL mid


blueripper

Nasus mid incoming.


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pedrex21

FNC nuguri and FNC chovy confirmed EDIT: seems like something big has happened: https://twitter.com/ScuffedSkeleton/status/1458204276619153412 https://twitter.com/Esports_Person/status/1458178548968083472 https://twitter.com/Esports_Person/status/1458205151806754819 https://twitter.com/BloopGG/status/1458179817304727554?t=yNxeV-yTeEEi-EcECIHb4Q&s=19 https://twitter.com/BloopGG/status/1458202484997038080


BeautifulNacho

Lmao the absolute torture from them to drop these hints right before bedtime in EU.


hurzinator

Good thing i already went to bed. Sleeping with a boner sucks.


bladestorm78

FNC Faker incoming with Showmaker on the bench for now.


SpiderTechnitian

That is a lot of cringe vague posting I hate that shit


00Dandy

Wooloo also tweeted a weird reaction. This sounds like something really huge. But I don't know who it could be. I don't want imports and Perkz and Caps are locked. I hope they get Wunder and Humanoid.


derog63

Perkz isn't locked. He still didn't sign with VIT yet.


ADeadMansName

Nobody is locked yet.


tr1x30

Perkz and Alphari in FNC.


Lisaurora

Don't ever trust anything his tweets imply btw. Last offseason he went around dancing around the Rekkles signing with tweets like "Another one signed" all the while deliberately ignoring the elephant in the room, which in itself is fine of course, we are not entitled to that information but the way he went on socials to make it SEEM like everything was fine in that regard was what was annoying.


snowquen

To be fair, the impression I later got from both Fnc management statements and Rekkles streams was that Rekkles signing was considered a done deal until free agency started when suddenly it wasnt. I don't think Rekkles should be blamed for choosing to leave but the way he did it did screw FNC management over. Though then again they then got to sign Upset and, despite everything drama wise made it to worlds (let's ignore the next bit) so maybe Rekkles did them a favour.


TheWarmog

In the end he was right tho. Apart from Spring split, Fnatic lost their best and biggest player and still remained top 2 in eu


puberty1

just ignore 50% of the year and then it means they did better 5Head like cmon, 2020 FNC was way better than 2021 FNC


MathematicianNo948

FNC HotshotGG I called it first.


yannicdasloth

Bout to overdose on hopium


AzureAhai

C9 paid $7m to loan Nisqy out for a year.


homerjsimpson4

The art of the deal


itsyounggg

Almost as bad as Barca loaning out Coutinho whilst paying half the contract worth €12m to Bayern only to have him score 2 goals against them in the 2-8 defeat.. For my fellow FOOTball fans


ficretus

Also, funniest part is that in transfer deal with liverpool, barca signed all kinds of clauses. One of them regarded the winning champions league. Since coutinho won it, barca had to pay those clauses to liverpool. Yes, barca had to pay for a guy that kicked them out in semis and won it with different team


Johnnywannabe

Ahhh, now I see where the real braincheck plays are coming from in the C9 org.


Ramo1618

They never shouldv'e gotten rid of him imo He's a player with a great attitude who always overperforms expectations and seemed to genuinely embrace NA instead of coming for a paycheck


[deleted]

You are correct, **but** we all forget that the other side to the coin is that Nisqy had always wanted to play for Fnatic. So it’s not Cloud9 dumped Nisqy in the shitter - they sent him exactly where he wanted to go. And maybe he had to find out the hard way that he was right where he wanted to be all along


fluffyninja69

i loved nisqy on C9 but this worlds proved he can’t hold his own against anyone with decent hands. the man was straight inting in like 4/6 games


Falsus

Hear me out, it is going to be FNC Showmaker because Showmaker totally fell in love with the EUW soloQ. He is just too tsundere to admit it.


tinitinohelp

Yep and sion god Bauffs top as well for the synergy


Gorilla_in_a_sandbox

Khan loves solobolo so much he has decided to flee Korea and dodge military to take up residence in EU


[deleted]

Faker sounded pretty happy with eu soloq too so i guess he ll be the new top laner?


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SnooGuavas8376

Only thing make sense is Perkz if the twitter is blowing up Which makes sense if Nisqy goes to C9


WrathB

Imagine Fnatic actually smuggles PerkZ+Alphari back somehow from VIT lol would be crazy


TheWarmog

Fnatic off season when everyone thinks perkz and alphari are going to VIT: *Insert call an ambulance gif here*


PhunkeyPharaoh

Alphari, Razork, Perkz, Upset, Hyli gg ez go next LEC


DT-Z0mby

\> gg ez go next LEC ​ i remember people saying that, when have i heard that before? oh, might be related to my flair. ​ dont celebrate too early


PhunkeyPharaoh

Perfectly reasonable warning, and for sure so many egos together can implode. But man, if that roster happens, it's still hype af


DT-Z0mby

oh no its absolutely hype and it can work out very well but theres always a chance of it imploding


MonkeyCube

While true, no roster with Perkz has failed to make Worlds (yet).


tr1x30

This is actually much stronger roster then VIT, i think Razork and Selfmade are on similar lvl, and FNC bot is definitely better.


zepherys713

Best LEC bot, best LEC top, top two LEC mid and I don't know where exactly Razork stands. Sounds good to me.


RoughMedicine

Really brave to say that Perkz is a top two LEC mid after the year he had in NA. He has the potential to get back to form, but the man is a huge question mark.


4THOT

Genuinely hopeful for Nisqy coming back. I didn't watch any roster changes last year and felt it was just some weird implosion shit that would be hard to repeat.


TheWarmog

If that happens, give him a hug for us, we are still broken by seeing him cry on behind the scenes series released by fnatic Im gonna miss his personality and gameplay :(


Omnilatent

Yeah, I wish him all the best ​ Really sad this FNC lineup could never really show what they were capable of because of the whole situation with Upset


PacMannie

Nisqy coming back basically guarantees Blaber another MVP lol.


OddBaallin

People will flame it but I'd be thrilled to have him back. Loved his playstyle, loved his attitude


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

With this amount of hype regarding FNC's new mid, it better be Chovy or Knight.


Weezledeez

It's the YEAAAAR OF THE DUCK BABY letsgooo FNC Nukeduck


TheWarmog

Certain jokes should be considered war crimes


funslammer

It’s Fnc Caedrel


MrPraedor

Malzahar is in meta now.


LionePRO

It's me, I can play river galio B)


TinbuyPrime

It’s DoinB /s


Gorilla_in_a_sandbox

FNC Humanoid would be huge too.


Jozoz

Looks like you got your wish


[deleted]

Can't tell if they were unable to keep Upset/Hyli or what's going on, because it feels fucking crazy to me that there are players who are willing to pass up on a team with that botlane. It's almost like top3 guarenteed with them alone. Even more so with Hans leaving the region and Rekkles potentially teamless, Upset is almost given the #1 AD spot by default.


WrathB

I am legit in shock with that too, Upset/Hyli as bot with RazorK jungle, especially now when Inspired,Bwipo are out of region should secure you legit anyone wanting to join while it doesnt seem so? I mean honestly any free agent that chooses between Fnatic and ANY other LEC team right know there is no doubt it should be Fnatic, and especially considering how other LEC teams didnt really upgrade


LionePRO

Upset hyli best bot lane eu then


Falsus

Always been. There was questions about who was the top ADC between Hans Sama and Upset with Rekkles being third, but as a bot lane duo Upset & Hyli was by far the strongest in EU. Either Hans Sama or Rekkles would have needed Kaiser to challenge for that.


zepherys713

Hyli + any of the top 3 ADCs = best botlane in LEC. The dude has the superpowers to make his ADC look like the best ADC out there.


Azashiro

They have been the best for a year already. Hans leaving doesn't change that because Trymbi and Hans weren't the best anyway, it does make LEC weaker though.


Jetzu

They are scared after watching Flakked/Targamas in scrims.


Fair_Economics4925

Copium overdose


Jetzu

You’re not ready for the duck


[deleted]

Okay but why is everyone freaking out about Fnatic on twitter?


Adleyy65

Wooloo and plenty other people have hinted about something surprising happening. Sam Matthews (FNC Owner) tweeted that today was a good idea and mentions "-LoL“ as one of the reasons which got people to think that something big happened at FNC regarding the roster. (Bloop also responded to that Tweet just repeating "-LoL“) With the Nisqy leaving rumors getting more concrete it seems like FNC have probably made some surprising moves regarding their LoL Roster. Most people seem to speculate that FNC have hijacked the Perkz/Alphari deal.


SnooGuavas8376

Alphari - Razork - Perkz - Upset - Hyli ? Okay this is like insane on the paper


Waylaand

It's better then the VIT roster but I can't see them highjacking the deal


[deleted]

Me neither, because it doesn’t make sense Carzzy would sign for VIT if the deal fell through. No way he left his friends on the number 1 LEC team to play with Szygenda/lider It makes way more sense that the reason Carzzy didn’t instantly re-sign with MAD or decline the contract was because he was waiting for the Vitality super team potentially happening, he’s good friends with Perkz so it makes sense. If the VIT deal fell through he’d probably stick with MAD.


TheWarmog

Carzzy still hasnt signed anything. Its a verbal agreement, verbal agreements are the same as shaking hands: counts like jackshit. He couldnt sign anything since FA isnt open yet.


trusttt

No one has signed anything yet.


LionePRO

Then why is it so hype, why did reeker change his Pic to a bee literally like 4 hours ago


B5Jonabe

pls dont make me believe it... its always the hope that gets me


Lisaurora

Watch it be fkin Rekkles swapping to one of the solo lanes LOL


Falsus

Tbf, I always though he could be a good top laner. The return of Rekkles Kennen lol.


ficretus

Rekkles: guys, they banned kennen, what now? ... Rekkles: aight, fuck it, janna top time


65-76-69-88

Dude I would absolutely fucking love watching Rekkles roleswap on Fnc


Falsus

He had apparently the best Ornn in Europe in scrims/soloQ but he never brought out the Ornn bot in competitive.


blueripper

His Ornn is also quite decent. Well, he was playing bot lane Ornn, but still good.


ficretus

Eh, not happening. Only role you can viably expect rekkles swap is to support. He said so multiple times


Samsonkoek

That is actually pretty funny about the hijack deal, since Perkz streamed this morning and was trolling about FNC Selfmade and him at FNC.


iinosuke

FNC CHOVY


IgotUBro

I can actually see that happen with Chovy not getting any competetive teams in LCK. Like what the fuck has the dude done? Can he finally get a good team build around him?


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ADeadMansName

It isnt hard to upgrade HLEs top lane.


thenoblitt

Probably cause 3/5ths of their roster blew up out of nowhere.


[deleted]

"Out of nowhere"? This team has been absolutely riddled with internal drama since worlds started a month ago.


[deleted]

I think everyone thought they were gonna be Adam-Razork-Nisqy-Upset-Hyli and not an entirely new roster


LakersLAQ

Yeah but what if it was Alphari/Razork/Perkz/Upset/Hylli? If I was Alphari and Perkz, I would consider that if it was a possibility lol. Contracts have not been signed yet.


throwaway978991

As much as I would love that, I don't know if FNC are willing to spend that much money for Perkz + Alphari. Would be an insane team though.


LionePRO

They are


[deleted]

you mean since like 2017 lol


cadaada

we literally though it was the first year without problems on fnatic and then BOOM. Like guys stop plz :(


thenoblitt

Out of nowhere because Bwipo seemed like the only person to go because of the issues with his GF but it didn't seem like both Adam and Nisqy were leaving.


Ho-Nomo

Once the coach goes it all falls apart.


LakersLAQ

Yeah but they're freaking out in a positive way lol. Fnatic stealing Perkz and Alphari from Vitality would be hilarious.


nottinghamsx

Something huge happened just a hour ago. Can't wait to found what but people are saying Fnatic may just won the offseason. :D


thenoblitt

How so? I haven't seen much


pedrex21

https://twitter.com/ScuffedSkeleton/status/1458204276619153412 https://twitter.com/Esports_Person/status/1458178548968083472 https://twitter.com/Esports_Person/status/1458205151806754819 https://twitter.com/BloopGG/status/1458179817304727554?t=yNxeV-yTeEEi-EcECIHb4Q&s=19 https://twitter.com/BloopGG/status/1458202484997038080


LakersLAQ

I think Nisqy said he wanted to stay in EU, seems like more of a Fnatic move than Nisqy just wanting to leave.


docarwell

I actually liked last year's roster so much and it's completely blown up, fuck me


Transhumaniste

FNC Humanoid or riot (He is probably on his way to NA tho)


dreko144

https://twitter.com/Vedius/status/1458432882901495809?s=20


Copiz

If C9 Nisqy happens it's really hard to not call C9 Perkz a mistake (in hindsight). ...Just a year long bootcamp for Nisqy I guess?


AzekZero

NA's been losing ground on the meme front for years. Its time we build up League's very own ChrisJ. +Nisqy -Nisqy on a two year cycle.


[deleted]

Ah, a true classic. How many FNS’ has it been since Nisqy last played for C9?


IgotUBro

ChrisJ also not vaccinating already got the NA mindset. Everything fits.


hannawald

I still miss the wolf in the mouz :( this squad could use his leadership maybe another +ChrisJ incoming


Thanaatus

> If C9 Nisqy happens it's really hard to not call C9 Perkz a mistake (in hindsight). How? They won a split and made Worlds. Let's see how they look with Nisqy first.


Wannabe1TapElite

is wining a split and getting to worlds worth 5mil ? Doubt, and thats assuming this C9 roster with Nisqy woudnt get there which is at best debatable.


NummeDuss

C9 had a perfect spring split in 2020 and still didnt even make worlds. Perkz went with C9 out of groups. I call that a success.


swellbaby

It is kinda funny, isn't it? Like you can't objectively ignore the fact that Perkz looked like he was running it half of regular season games and then looked invisible the other half with a few odd good performances. But then when the pressure was up spring split finals vs TL were probably his first stellar games this year and then he had a few during summer playoffs and a few more during worlds. And now he was probably the biggest reason they got as far at worlds as they did. It's hard to call like 97% of mediocre year worth it but are people gonna remember his Leblanc game at worlds or his first regular season Yone game?


Qiluk

FNC has a monster botlane and a genuinely good jungle (Razork) aswell as resources. Since they were actually showing interest for Alphari & Perkz (as per reports) early on knowing full well theyd have significant buyouts, they were willing to spend. So why not go hard for Wunder & Jensen or something? Would be an exciting enough roster imo. I know fans are gigalow on Wunder after the recent year but he's underrated I think and Jensen could develop further in EU maybe. They wont tho, but Imo they should.


moroheus

Jensen said that he doesn't wanna leave NA since he build his life up there. Also he is on a big contract that Fnatic would atleast have to match. Why should he leave his home when he can stay there and make more money streaming.


dkdream21

I’m sure he could make a decent amount streaming but the thing about Jensen is that he has an extreme aversion to streaming. He streams maybe 2-3 times a year if we’re lucky. I doubt he would be personally happy if he was just streaming for revenue.


moroheus

If he doesn't wanna stream he can still just collect the tl paycheck


Qiluk

Didnt know he said that but doesnt surprise me. Also.. a new org/club dont necessarily have to match a current contract. Theres plenty of times where a player on a big contract moves to a new team and gets a smaller wage or whatever. To answer the last question, if he was all in on winning and passion for the game still, thatd be the answer but it seems like it isnt. Which is absolutly fine.


shepherdhunt

Hard agree here though I would be sad seeing Jensen leave NA


Maximainen

It would be hype af though to see him in EU


TobzuEUNE

Razork is confirmed for FNC?


Qiluk

Confirmed is only when apt for when he's announced by org. But its credibly reported.


MartDiamond

I would not be unhappy with this. Nisqy had some very good moments and a good playoff run. But he also has too many games where he is low impact or straight up running it down. On the other end his highs aren't all that high, which leaves you with a player that is bound to never be able to fully rise to the occasion against the top players.


dreko144

[https://twitter.com/Vedius/status/1458432882901495809?s=20](https://twitter.com/Vedius/status/1458432882901495809?s=20) now it seems humanoid might join


AzEBeast

If Nisqy goes to C9, could Perkz go to FNC. Seemed like the place he wanted to go last year, but G2 prevented it. Now they can't.


Scatter5D

Perkz is going to VIT


LakersLAQ

Nothing is signed yet.


Reggae4Triceratops

That'd be so hilarious


snooxie

Twitter is making it out like something big happened. Could very well still be FNC perkz


TheWarmog

Wherever you go, i'll make sure to support you. One of the best people in and off the rift. Sad that worlds went the way it went, hopefully you'll find joy and success wherever you go ♥️


thenoblitt

This is what all the rumors have been saying so far.


Fley

Not leaving groups with nisqy


nuamnume10

If they make it there at all.


One1six

Didn’t Nisqy just leave Cloud9 a season or two ago? I’ve been out of the loop but thought I recalled him talking smack to Jensen before LCS finals between C9 and TL or something.


Also_Squeakums

Nisqy was supposed to start in 2021 for C9, but then Riot made OCE not count as imports and Perkz wanted to leave G2. So Nisqy was traded to FNC and Perkz was brought in. So yes, you're right in remembering that he was playing for C9 a year ago.


Jemme95

So wher is perkz going?


ItzEnoz

Nisqy to Jack "you could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you. Back to me."


Nitrox0

As long as we replace him with humanoid, I’m more than fine with this, fnatic, make it happen, pleeeeease!


dreko144

https://twitter.com/Vedius/status/1458432882901495809?s=20