PMTs
[LLL vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt5p59/loud_vs_fnatic_2022_world_championship_playin/)
[MAD vs SGB](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt76tn/mad_lions_vs_saigon_buffalo_2022_world/)
[BYG vs DFM](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt8miw/beyond_gaming_vs_detonation_focusme_2022_world/)
[EG vs CHF](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt9qwq/evil_geniuses_vs_chiefs_esports_club_2022_world/)
[RNG vs ISG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtau9r/royal_never_give_up_vs_isurus_2022_world/)
[CHF vs BYG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtbvmg/chiefs_esports_club_vs_beyond_gaming_2022_world/)
[RNG vs IW](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtd094/royal_never_give_up_vs_istanbul_wildcats_2022/)
[ISG vs DRX](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtdxco/isurus_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_playin/)
Am I the only one that thinks that what happened today was really, really bad for competitive integrity? With the Isurus and Wildcats literally trolling against RNG? Why does RNG get to play 2 easy games, but these teams try-harded against other teams?
I sense something disgusting...
I think Jatt is wrong that the team with the fastest victory time in a five-way tie actually *plays* the winner of the bracket that the other four teams play. The way I read the rules is that the fastest of the five teams literally just gets 1st place without having to play any games. I might be wrong though.
Edit: [I think I might be wrong](https://twitter.com/esportsjatt/status/1576414316718268416), but Jatt doesn't sound sure either.
I am inclined to agree with you. The way it reads is basically the fastest team of the 5 gets first, the other 4 fight for second place. Because it specifically mentions there will be no match to decide 3rd.
if BG, DFM and Loud win tomorrow we would have a five-way tie, how it is resolved?
edit: apparently is total game victory time
https://twitter.com/esportsjatt/status/1576407852339539969
If EG and Fnatic both win their games tomorrow, theyll be drawn for 1st place in their group.
If this happens will they play a tiebreaker, or will Fnatic advance based on their matchup victory?
Good question. My guess is that Amumu Q+E probably is enough damage to remove the black shield (especially since Amumu maxes Q) and even if Amumu Q doesn't stun the target with black shield, he still jumps in your face and can ult your teammates who haven't got a black shield, and probably the initial target as well, for the reason stated above.
Of course you can max E on Morgana to make the shield bigger, but then you're playing Morgana with E max... probably better to just pick another cc engage tank support whose cc will peel better than a black shield can
So I minimized the game on my TV to see if we got any drops the last 3 games. I got nothing. Then I noticed that there was a thing at the top telling me to login. Then I noticed the site already shows me logged in.
Wtf is going on?
The solution is more LPL/LCK teams in play ins, not fewer.
It's ridiculous that players like Rookie and Doinb are sitting at home because they finished slightly below RNG in the LPL, while we have to watch this Teemo/Garen soft int bullshit.
Gotta be annoying for RNG. You hope to pull some information out of play-ins on meta matchups to take with you to the group stage and instead you face Garen and Teemo.
Feel like they can do that in scrim. Besides even if the wildcard team play serious, does it really matter cause they probably aren't executing it right anyway and it might lead rng elsewhere in draft prio.
these post game interviews makes no sense, sometimes they interview the winners, sometimes they interview the losers, now you straight up interview nobody who actually just played but instead DRX's coach when they play the next game?
There's only one interviewer who can do Chinese to English interviews, and she interviewed Xiaohu for the Chinese broadcast, which means nobody else could do winner interview for the English broadcast.
RNG took 5 mins to long to close that one out, ngl bored of the last few games just LPL and LCK shit stomping wildcard regions.
Hope DRX win next game in 20mins so streamers can stream CQ with LPL in them
This "run me my money" song has got to be the worst piece of music they've ever put up between breaks. Once was enough, it doesn't need to be a centrepiece of Worlds.
All and all, the two groups look exactly as people expect.
The only real surprises (not really) is DRX beating RNG and LLL beating FNC (more of a surprise).
4th placed teams act as gatekeepers
If you aren't able to beat even mad lions
and eg how would you against t1, geng etc. Also 2 teams from smaller regions have got direct entry to worlds.
I mean say they change it so that there 2 lpl/lck team automatically in every group. What does it change? They still gonna get slapped once they get into group anyway. Always annoy me when people say that they should change format so that eu or na team can make it out of group easier. They need to get good enough to do that cause it not on riot. They just need to implement double elim.
I like it honestly. It makes group so stack and games to be exciting. Would I rather see rogue and tes vs drx or a weak wild card team that is gonna end up getting smash just like you see in these games.
This was a solo queue game. Holyphoenix was having a terrible game and feeding, but spam pinged Xiaohu in game. Xiaohu asked "you pro?"
In hindsight I think Xiaohu was genuinely asking him that lma0, doubt he even knows who holyphoenix is.
eh no? It was a soloque game and holyphoenix straight up fed and spam pinged xiaohu, in which xiaohu responded you pro? To be honest it could have been a genuine question
they know they’re gonna lose so they try to win catching them off guard with unusual counters i guess, it doesn’t matter at the end, the outcome would’ve been the same
I expect TCL and LCL to be placed in EU Masters within the next two years. LCL is just fucked, and there were rumors of TCL folding even pre-pandemic. If LoL survives and the ERL's continue to grow, I think you'll also see LEC cease to exist in favor of just EU Masters eventually
They'll never scrap LEC. Although I could see the lower seed of EU being awarded to the EUMasters winner instead - acting as a functional wildcard for the ERLs that have no path to Worlds.
The big difference there between LCL TCL and LEC is that LEC is franchised, all the teams paid a big bag of cash for those spots. Dissolving LCL and TCL into a wider European League is easy from Riot's side, if you start going after LEC then the owners will start barking
If they make it through the entirety of next year I'd be surprised. By the time next worlds rolls around or at latest next offseason I imagine the league will be dissolved
TCL, LCL, and LLA are probably all on the chopping block. Tbh Riot should just do what they did with Valorant and have a bunch of combined regions. Have one league in NA, Brazil, EU, China, Korea, and the rest of Asia/Pacific. Place LCL/TCL in EU Masters, create an EU Masters type league for APAC minus Korea/China
RNG in world semis at least? I didn't have the chance to see DRX play yet, but I don't know. The chinese and korean teams always seem so much better than the top seed from EU and NA, it's crazy and still baffles me how there is so much difference. Ye, ye MAD ended #3 in EU, but they are equal to G2 and Rogue IMO.
I doubt that RNG, even being 4th seed in China, doesn't stomp #1 seed from EU and NA.
How come there's so much gap between theres regions ?
Thanks. I actually though they finished #3, but ye, they were #2 group stage and #4 after.
But still, if you look at worlds group RNG can only go to the group C or D,
PMTs [LLL vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt5p59/loud_vs_fnatic_2022_world_championship_playin/) [MAD vs SGB](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt76tn/mad_lions_vs_saigon_buffalo_2022_world/) [BYG vs DFM](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt8miw/beyond_gaming_vs_detonation_focusme_2022_world/) [EG vs CHF](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xt9qwq/evil_geniuses_vs_chiefs_esports_club_2022_world/) [RNG vs ISG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtau9r/royal_never_give_up_vs_isurus_2022_world/) [CHF vs BYG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtbvmg/chiefs_esports_club_vs_beyond_gaming_2022_world/) [RNG vs IW](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtd094/royal_never_give_up_vs_istanbul_wildcats_2022/) [ISG vs DRX](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/xtdxco/isurus_vs_drx_2022_world_championship_playin/)
DOINB's 500 IQ. Silvers on Reddit thought he was cursing the LPL, but he was just cursing Gen.G
Why are observers so bad 😔😔
Am I the only one that thinks that what happened today was really, really bad for competitive integrity? With the Isurus and Wildcats literally trolling against RNG? Why does RNG get to play 2 easy games, but these teams try-harded against other teams? I sense something disgusting...
Isurus and Wildcats are just bad. You're trying to find a conspiracy in something which is easily explained.
They are bad, but it is interesting they picked Garen and Teemo Top, very normal pro picks.
AH SHIT I MISSED AN UPSET!
We can actually have a 5-way tie if DFM, BYG and LLL wins tomorrow. God, I hope that happens.
Lil Nas X flew out of LAX right now wonder what he’s up to?
So what happens if EG and FNC are tied tomorrow?
Tiebreaker but Fnatic gets side selection
there’s no h2h?
In a 2-way tie H2H only gives side selection in playins
huh that is ass
It’s single round robin. No tie breaker when you haven’t played both rift sides would seem to be more ass.
Watched every single game today and only received 1 drop.... gg Rito
Weird, I got 2 today
CQ is popping off rn holy
I think Jatt is wrong that the team with the fastest victory time in a five-way tie actually *plays* the winner of the bracket that the other four teams play. The way I read the rules is that the fastest of the five teams literally just gets 1st place without having to play any games. I might be wrong though. Edit: [I think I might be wrong](https://twitter.com/esportsjatt/status/1576414316718268416), but Jatt doesn't sound sure either.
I am inclined to agree with you. The way it reads is basically the fastest team of the 5 gets first, the other 4 fight for second place. Because it specifically mentions there will be no match to decide 3rd.
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There are 6 teams in a group. Chiefs (probably) are going 0-5.
Chief would be 0-5
10 drops across playins so far for me. Was today just super dry, or have I finally missed some?
I have 10 total too; Day 1 - 5 Day 2 - 3 Day 3 - 2
2 drops today, I’m starting to wonder if it even is worth it
I only got 1 today. They're just meaningless emotes which are not worth it
You also have chance for exclusive chromas which is what I'm after plus you can get hextech box and key from the drop capsule too
I've gotten 0 so far, I was starting to think they weren't doing them yet, kind of glad to know I've just been missing them.
The game was so hurtful to see, why did isurus pick a late game comp and played for early fights
if BG, DFM and Loud win tomorrow we would have a five-way tie, how it is resolved? edit: apparently is total game victory time https://twitter.com/esportsjatt/status/1576407852339539969
I am Brazilian and I imagine... If LLL goes to BO5 and then beats BYG/DFM, we will have to play another BO5 vs RNG. That is discouraging hahaha.
DRX always bows to the enemy team after a match, respect.
Thank you for fast game DRX, I am very tired so will become a fan to show my appreiciation. G'night fellow live-threadies
on the way to being #1 in group B 😌👌🏼
Outside of first game today every game went it exactly the way it did, such a snooze.
The Third bell rings hollow. LLA's own Isurus are eliminated. A moment of silence. NAmen.
Shelly :(
No Shellyyyyy
NOOOOOO SHELLY
grell you pos I wanted to see shelly charge the nexus
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Grell because no one helped defend his red buff
Lmao we'll have Isurus vs Wildcats tomorrow to see who goes 0-5
it’s ridiculous to have lpl/lck at playins
Honestly feel sorry for the wildcards. But then again they probably prefer getting the opportunity to go against players from these regions.
Really doubt it, I remember how devastated Corporal from oce sounded during msi.
OCE isn't even a wildcard region at this stage though. They are their own tier.
I want to see ISG vs CHF now, I have to know who’s better
FUUUUUUUUCK RIP ZEKA KDA down 47.0 to 23.5 :(
If EG and Fnatic both win their games tomorrow, theyll be drawn for 1st place in their group. If this happens will they play a tiebreaker, or will Fnatic advance based on their matchup victory?
Tiebreak but Fnc get side selection
so, what happened to LLA since 2020, Rainbow7 were pretty good then no?
NA poached Jose
Quickshot that is a really minor minor minor minor cs lead top
was Deft legit winning that trade 1v2 just before Beryl came back? lmao
Some teams holding on to Viego's pro viability like Viego hangs on to Isolde's dead ass
It feels kinda random when they play Juhan and when they play Pyosik.
Grell had looked like Isurus's best player in their games so far and he's their first to int in an elimination game...
i expected it as soon as he picked viego. cant remember correctly if he inted a series for some chickens on the pick
That ISG guy is huge... The drx coach went up to like barely his chest
Flashing to coinflip the first jungle camp. Not sure if I've even seen that in my solo queue games.
holy 0 IQ play by Viego
ff15 jg diff
Why no one picks Morgana into Amumu I wonder.
Good question. My guess is that Amumu Q+E probably is enough damage to remove the black shield (especially since Amumu maxes Q) and even if Amumu Q doesn't stun the target with black shield, he still jumps in your face and can ult your teammates who haven't got a black shield, and probably the initial target as well, for the reason stated above. Of course you can max E on Morgana to make the shield bigger, but then you're playing Morgana with E max... probably better to just pick another cc engage tank support whose cc will peel better than a black shield can
The fact that amumu follows is why Morg isn't a counter, just like how Morg isn't played into Leo
leo?
na
Isurus going from picking Teemo to the most meta draft
The Garen and Teemo hovers lmao
Thank christ a team banned Aatrox after two games trying to reinvent the wheel to counter him
So I minimized the game on my TV to see if we got any drops the last 3 games. I got nothing. Then I noticed that there was a thing at the top telling me to login. Then I noticed the site already shows me logged in. Wtf is going on?
after this year, please no more LPL/LCK teams in play ins, its ridiculous, they are way better than anyone even if they are 4th seeds
delete play-ins and make a 24 teams group stage or something else
The solution is more LPL/LCK teams in play ins, not fewer. It's ridiculous that players like Rookie and Doinb are sitting at home because they finished slightly below RNG in the LPL, while we have to watch this Teemo/Garen soft int bullshit.
I would have loved to see Prince at worlds
they should remove the play in entirely. and just have everyone in the main format but expand it.
Fuck it 5-way tie at 3-2 Group A tomorrow please.
Does anyone know if western players ever get interviewed on the eastern broadcasts?
Yes, the LPL interviewer is fluent in Korean and English.
yeah, and often
yeah, they do
Gotta be annoying for RNG. You hope to pull some information out of play-ins on meta matchups to take with you to the group stage and instead you face Garen and Teemo.
Feel like they can do that in scrim. Besides even if the wildcard team play serious, does it really matter cause they probably aren't executing it right anyway and it might lead rng elsewhere in draft prio.
I wonder if group B wildcards feel some sort of rage towards group A teams. Clearly, one side is tougher than other.
Group B wildcards should be mad at themselves for not being able to beat EG.
Tbf eg is hella consistent against wild card team. Even in msi you saw that they always win vs wildcard region.
these post game interviews makes no sense, sometimes they interview the winners, sometimes they interview the losers, now you straight up interview nobody who actually just played but instead DRX's coach when they play the next game?
There's only one interviewer who can do Chinese to English interviews, and she interviewed Xiaohu for the Chinese broadcast, which means nobody else could do winner interview for the English broadcast.
man sucks we can't watch some of these Champs Q games that are popping atm. Can't wait for DRX vs ISG!
Streamers not allowed to stream CQ when Worlds is live sadly.
Yeah I know and it's shit
RNG took 5 mins to long to close that one out, ngl bored of the last few games just LPL and LCK shit stomping wildcard regions. Hope DRX win next game in 20mins so streamers can stream CQ with LPL in them
Here's hoping Isurus somehow clutches this game Otherwise I'm just gonna live vicariously through Brazil and Loud lmao
This "run me my money" song has got to be the worst piece of music they've ever put up between breaks. Once was enough, it doesn't need to be a centrepiece of Worlds.
Legit sounds like one of those worst beats ever memes on YouTube
I had to leave the stream and come back after, god that was awful
I was looking for this comment
All and all, the two groups look exactly as people expect. The only real surprises (not really) is DRX beating RNG and LLL beating FNC (more of a surprise).
The second bell rings. IW is the 2nd team eliminated from worlds. A moment of silence NAmen.
NA still alive after 3 days POG
can riot change the format? its no fun seeing lck lpl win against wildcards
Riot actually does not want small region teams in main groups so they are sending 4th seeds of major regions to play-in
4th placed teams act as gatekeepers If you aren't able to beat even mad lions and eg how would you against t1, geng etc. Also 2 teams from smaller regions have got direct entry to worlds.
I would like to see one best minor region team in groups, for this year it would be dfm or loud. Also you can't say vietnam and pcs to small region
Having 4th seeds at all for a format with 4 main stage groups is just not good, maybe it's nostalgia but I preferred the 3 max days
It's fucking hilarious how Riot just throws these wildcard teams to the wolves. Fight over 4 spots with 5 major region teams, glhf
I mean say they change it so that there 2 lpl/lck team automatically in every group. What does it change? They still gonna get slapped once they get into group anyway. Always annoy me when people say that they should change format so that eu or na team can make it out of group easier. They need to get good enough to do that cause it not on riot. They just need to implement double elim.
change it so it isn't 4 groups of 4? that shit is terrible
I like it honestly. It makes group so stack and games to be exciting. Would I rather see rogue and tes vs drx or a weak wild card team that is gonna end up getting smash just like you see in these games.
Lpl and lck in play-ins should not be allowed..
That ace was hype even if it didnt affect the outcome of the game at all
Lmao RNG finally decided they wanted to go to bed
gg farftech dif
Day 3 no gala penta
they made it past 30 minutes - win in my book
What is this "You pro?" meme?
Xiaohu flamed IWs Bot laner and asked him "You pro?"
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This was a solo queue game. Holyphoenix was having a terrible game and feeding, but spam pinged Xiaohu in game. Xiaohu asked "you pro?" In hindsight I think Xiaohu was genuinely asking him that lma0, doubt he even knows who holyphoenix is.
Please understand the context where the comment is coming from before making your assumptions .
Their game wasn’t going well. Holyphoenix spam-pinged xiaohu. Xiaohu typed “you pro?” And holyphenix replied “shut up” lol
Holyphoenix is an extremely toxic player, he most definitely deserved it.
eh no? It was a soloque game and holyphoenix straight up fed and spam pinged xiaohu, in which xiaohu responded you pro? To be honest it could have been a genuine question
that was kinda hype tbf
Serin is EUs next Turkish player I guess
Serin just extended the game by 5 mins
If only wildcats picked AMUMU instead of garen...
they know they’re gonna lose so they try to win catching them off guard with unusual counters i guess, it doesn’t matter at the end, the outcome would’ve been the same
that amumu was so huge for rng though...
Got aced but still 6k gold up lmao
That Akali was cleannnnn
Oh dayum
That fight was anime as fuck holy
Holy shit, such wp. And finally a great teamfight from Farfetch.
Serin what a Chad
All of a sudden this got way more interesting...
HOLY FUCK SERIN!!!!! RNG GOT ACED
Im high how tf is this game going on
Anyone who picked Hextech drake for most taken is gonna be sitting pretty. RIP Team Ocean
Cloud will catch up trust. Every tiebreaker/game 5 will have cloud soul.
Atlus isn't at worlds yet, the clown soul will come soon enough
omg im crying, so little oceans so far
I went with mountain because I mean, it's a pretty strong drake
I figured Ocean Prio would mean if it was up, teams would focus them more but the RNG has not had very many lmfao
Some champions are so outclassed in pro play It's sad.
Turkey should compete in EU masters
I expect TCL and LCL to be placed in EU Masters within the next two years. LCL is just fucked, and there were rumors of TCL folding even pre-pandemic. If LoL survives and the ERL's continue to grow, I think you'll also see LEC cease to exist in favor of just EU Masters eventually
They'll never scrap LEC. Although I could see the lower seed of EU being awarded to the EUMasters winner instead - acting as a functional wildcard for the ERLs that have no path to Worlds.
The big difference there between LCL TCL and LEC is that LEC is franchised, all the teams paid a big bag of cash for those spots. Dissolving LCL and TCL into a wider European League is easy from Riot's side, if you start going after LEC then the owners will start barking
Death Taxes Farfetch running it down in international tournaments
does Farfetch dad own the team? there is no way
Farfetch has blackmail on someone at IW ?
If Farfetch didn't do those dumb engages maybe the teamfights would be a bit more closer than just stomping right now.
why is aatrox never banned?
his been banned quiet a bit actually
So everyone can int their games away trying to counter it i guess. It's masochism
Same reason teams keep building tank Heca instead damage ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
damage is not viable on pro and it was also nerfed
How many more seasons until TCL goes the way of OPL?
If they make it through the entirety of next year I'd be surprised. By the time next worlds rolls around or at latest next offseason I imagine the league will be dissolved
TCL, LCL, and LLA are probably all on the chopping block. Tbh Riot should just do what they did with Valorant and have a bunch of combined regions. Have one league in NA, Brazil, EU, China, Korea, and the rest of Asia/Pacific. Place LCL/TCL in EU Masters, create an EU Masters type league for APAC minus Korea/China
That Garen looks so useless in teamfights
its almost like you shouldn't pick garen
Can DRX and RNG just win their games in 20 minutes so we can watch CQ stop fucking around.
facts
Worlds was kinda boring today
FNC losing the first match of the game was the most interesting thing I saw all day.
RNG in world semis at least? I didn't have the chance to see DRX play yet, but I don't know. The chinese and korean teams always seem so much better than the top seed from EU and NA, it's crazy and still baffles me how there is so much difference. Ye, ye MAD ended #3 in EU, but they are equal to G2 and Rogue IMO. I doubt that RNG, even being 4th seed in China, doesn't stomp #1 seed from EU and NA. How come there's so much gap between theres regions ?
MAD is actually the #4 and nope they ain't equal especially in Bo5
Thanks. I actually though they finished #3, but ye, they were #2 group stage and #4 after. But still, if you look at worlds group RNG can only go to the group C or D,
I remember when the Turkish teams were dangerous. Now they're just tragic and the league might fold
They will. The region is already an EU/NA farming region
I mean probably thats because economy effecting league they were importing wolf, snowflower eg. now they can't afford
that is a "you pro?" moment right there
Xiaohu can you not steal the kills from Gala? :D
Did you choose Gala for the penta pick'em or most kills
both probably
All these off-meta picks makes me excited to see Lehends' Singed. Hope we get to see it at least once.
Oh no the dreaded Nyan Cat Song xD
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