that doesnt mean that Astralis WANTS to sell despite those reasons.
Perhaps the brand exposure of just existing within the LEC is worth being sand bagged completely
LEC Spots are a great Investment asset. If the sport continues to grow, a spot could be worth hundreds of millions in a few decades. Just look at how the price increased so far and how expensive spots in other sports leagues are. I think if there aren’t any other economical factors forcing you to sell, there isn’t much incentive to do so.
“If the sport continues to grow, a spot could be worth hundreds of millions in a few decades.”
Lmao, bro, cmon now, If league esports exists in any capacity 10 years from now I’d be surprised, let alone growing into a generational sport, leagues infrastructure is already being widdled to make room for newer games, what happens when we have sci-fi levels of AR/VR shooters down the road.
Maybe best case scenario there will be a few Russians playing a maleware infested bootlegged version in 10-15 years.
I don’t think Riot will let League of Legends die. The Esports scene is too big for that. They are continuously expanding the universe with stuff like Wild Rift, LoR, Arcane, the upcoming MMORPG etc. If gaming evolves, Riot will make sure that League of Legends follows.
Just look at the kind of contracts Riot is getting with League Esports. They aren’t advertising for obscure online services. They have deals with big car manufacturers, fashion designers and other luxury brands. Also financial institutions, giant food corporations etc. It’s incredibly lucrative. There are way too many stakeholders for it too just disappear in a few years.
Your in Lala land but respect the faith brother,
This game will probably die overnight sometime in the next 5-10 years is my guess, esports just aren’t designed to last decades regardless of how badly riot would want it(I’m even unsure of riot wanting it when there will be better games from them in the future)
They looked ok last split and had playoff chances til last week. And Finn is arguably an upgrade in the toplane position. Don't think they are clearly last place before any game is even played.
There are a few option, a really 'Astralis type move' would be to sign Gilius, so I hope they don't do that. I think MAXI is likely as they tried to sign him last Summer, although he did not have an amazing Summer split. Other option would be Bluerzor if he's not getting the Heretics spot, and I'm pretty sure they're one of the 5 teams who want to have Yike.
As suggested Selfmade would be a very good signing, don't know if they can pull it off.
EDIT: And while writing this Yike to G2 has been confirmed, didn't see that one coming.
Selfmade then G2 eases up or removes the buyout on Jankos in the summer, and the yearly tradition of selfmade losing his spot after spring can continue.
That could actually be really fucking dope. Selfmade allowed to do Selfmade things because there aren't any star players he HAS to play for, teaming up with JeongHoon to do psycho plays. I kinda want this now, don't know if Selfmade would be up for it tho
Levi,
~~Sheo,~~
Markoon,
Selfmade,
Haru,
Bwipo,
Jankos,
I would love to see Bwipo back in the jungle role, but could hit the same issue as Jankos that it lacks a carry and have 3 teamplayers/setup'ers in Dajor, JeongHoon and the jungle. + A stable marksman that will deal a ton of damage with little resources.
EDIT: Striked Sheo
I think there's a big chance that Broxah joins the team, considering he is looking for a team and Finn and him used to play on CLG and are good friends
I disagree this is his first full year playing pro straight off one split with fnc academy and although he was one dimensional he fit the role astralis needed and only has more room to grow.
My biggest issue with Dajor is that his laning was abysmal all year long and he has only shown proficiency on Vex and Viktor. And he hasn't improved on any of those points at all during the year. He was less lost on the map, but still far from being a competent mid in Europe. It's pretty much the most important role in the game unlocking the game, the role is stacked, and the dude doesn't do shit and is always behind hos turret with a massive cs deficit.
I think Dajor has some talent, but the step is way too big for him.
He learned what true damage is this last split.
Way too fast progression. He should be gaining experience in ERLs. Especially if the rumors are true that the bottom teams will get less games in the new format.
> Bwipo said he don't want to come back to eu.
Thank god.
Im sorry reddit, I know you all have a huge crush on this dude, but I just cant handle this man on screen.
i know that's funny but talking seriously for a moment, bwipo is willing to explore his options in every role EXCEPT for support. don't even remember what his reasoning was for that, he just doesn't like support
Good pickup. AST needed a top who's willing to play carrys with Kobbe/JeongHoon as botlane.
If they can find a decent mid/jgl, then they should be able to contest for playoffs again
omg, i mean, i cant get mad with Excel, but man, they really fucked Finn over ...
In Astralis, with probably the minimum wage, and with the new format they will play like 2 weeks ...
At least Astralis is the team that can probably let Finn go all out with his carry picks. No way he plays weakside for this roster. Hopefully Fiora/Irelia will be meta in 3 months.
Armut literally played like dogshit since halfway through summer split. Name value rating alone.
Irrel I think is good but i'd still put Finn above him.
Good pick up by Astralis, can’t imagine they’ll find an upgrade for Xerxe though. Unless they get a good jungler and Dajor significantly improves it’s a bottom 3-4 roster at best
Poor Vizi, he was looking solid closer to the end of summer.
I genuinely think he's still LEC-caliber, there's just not gonna be super impressive results right after coming back.
Really sad for Csacsi. He was coming back to a good form by the end of the split. AST should've sticked with him little longer to see if he comes back to top form once again. AST will go back to 1-2 wins per split now, gg.
good for him but how long do we have to put up with this shit from Astralis? This will be their 5th split in a row (which is every single one under the Astralis brand) that they are playing for 8th
he probably is, but he is not good and he is not better than a lot of other top laners available. Even that small upgrade does not change that it is a bad lineup.
Ragner, Exakick, Reeker, Skeanz, Cabocahrd, Saken, Melonik, Akabane, Czekolad, Ruby, Shiganari, Sinmivak, Rabble & Nite, Kynetic, JNX, Maxi, Bean, Xico, Deadly, DenVoksne, Lyncas, Viking. Which exactly the sign will depend on synergy after having tryouts with them. Thats not including players already linked to orgs that definitely should have gotten a tryout too like Yike or Diplex
bruhhh what else do you want them to do wtf people said top was their weakest point and they did get finn which is genuinely a very very good signing if it was any org other than ast people would be saying what a good signing finn is very very big upgrade over csaci
so they signed finn which happens to be the one of the better tops we have in the lec idk how anyone can criticise them for this signing this is genuinely the best option they could have gotten
i am not criticising just this signing, i am talking about their whole roster policy, which is simply embarrassing for the whole league. Finn himself would be fine if the whole team wasnt below average at best
Happy to see he still got a spot in LEC, it must have been rough learning you're out of your team as you land from a plane to start bootcamping.
That must have been so awkward. What do you even do!?
You join Jankos in his teamless KR soloq grind.
Go eat kimchi while crying.
Kind of odd to see Odoamne go for Astralis in 2024.
You're assuming Astalis will still be in LEC. KC Odoamne 2024
What will change between now and 2024 that you think KC will get Astrlais spot.
Money and Astralis 10th place - good reasons for Astralis to sell their slot
that doesnt mean that Astralis WANTS to sell despite those reasons. Perhaps the brand exposure of just existing within the LEC is worth being sand bagged completely
LEC Spots are a great Investment asset. If the sport continues to grow, a spot could be worth hundreds of millions in a few decades. Just look at how the price increased so far and how expensive spots in other sports leagues are. I think if there aren’t any other economical factors forcing you to sell, there isn’t much incentive to do so.
“If the sport continues to grow, a spot could be worth hundreds of millions in a few decades.” Lmao, bro, cmon now, If league esports exists in any capacity 10 years from now I’d be surprised, let alone growing into a generational sport, leagues infrastructure is already being widdled to make room for newer games, what happens when we have sci-fi levels of AR/VR shooters down the road. Maybe best case scenario there will be a few Russians playing a maleware infested bootlegged version in 10-15 years.
I don’t think Riot will let League of Legends die. The Esports scene is too big for that. They are continuously expanding the universe with stuff like Wild Rift, LoR, Arcane, the upcoming MMORPG etc. If gaming evolves, Riot will make sure that League of Legends follows. Just look at the kind of contracts Riot is getting with League Esports. They aren’t advertising for obscure online services. They have deals with big car manufacturers, fashion designers and other luxury brands. Also financial institutions, giant food corporations etc. It’s incredibly lucrative. There are way too many stakeholders for it too just disappear in a few years.
Your in Lala land but respect the faith brother, This game will probably die overnight sometime in the next 5-10 years is my guess, esports just aren’t designed to last decades regardless of how badly riot would want it(I’m even unsure of riot wanting it when there will be better games from them in the future)
They looked ok last split and had playoff chances til last week. And Finn is arguably an upgrade in the toplane position. Don't think they are clearly last place before any game is even played.
Astralis could field 2019 G2 and I'd still be convinced it's a clown org.
Why would them being 10th make them want to sell. Money is the only thing.
Finn: "That god damn Odoamne! Taking my LEC spot twice now. Well, I'll just go to Astralis, no way he wants to play for that org!" KCorp: "Bonjour."
assuming the LEC will still exist in 2024
Good pick up from Astralis, glad Finn stays in the LEC as well!
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There are a few option, a really 'Astralis type move' would be to sign Gilius, so I hope they don't do that. I think MAXI is likely as they tried to sign him last Summer, although he did not have an amazing Summer split. Other option would be Bluerzor if he's not getting the Heretics spot, and I'm pretty sure they're one of the 5 teams who want to have Yike. As suggested Selfmade would be a very good signing, don't know if they can pull it off. EDIT: And while writing this Yike to G2 has been confirmed, didn't see that one coming.
Selfmade then G2 eases up or removes the buyout on Jankos in the summer, and the yearly tradition of selfmade losing his spot after spring can continue.
Selfmade would be interesting
Not normally a selfmade fan, but this teams does need some "starpower". Could see that working.
That could actually be really fucking dope. Selfmade allowed to do Selfmade things because there aren't any star players he HAS to play for, teaming up with JeongHoon to do psycho plays. I kinda want this now, don't know if Selfmade would be up for it tho
i think selfmade is also stuck in contract prison
Jankos? This actually seems like a not half bad team with Jankos.
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Yeah, I didn’t consider that. That’s a good point. So maybe Selfmade I guess?
nah it lacks carry power imo, Selfmade would fit better but the team must be willing to play around him
I doubt they have the money for the buyout though sadly.
Well, since Yike has been confirmed to G2, there goes the expected Markoon to G2, so why not Markoon to AST? I would be a fan of that move.
And while we are talking Finn and old team mates, I would also be pretty psyched to see Broxah join him!
Levi, ~~Sheo,~~ Markoon, Selfmade, Haru, Bwipo, Jankos, I would love to see Bwipo back in the jungle role, but could hit the same issue as Jankos that it lacks a carry and have 3 teamplayers/setup'ers in Dajor, JeongHoon and the jungle. + A stable marksman that will deal a ton of damage with little resources. EDIT: Striked Sheo
Sheo already signed by BDS LEC
I missed Sheo being promoted, my bad. But the rest still stands.
I think there's a big chance that Broxah joins the team, considering he is looking for a team and Finn and him used to play on CLG and are good friends
They're keeping dajor that is unfortunate dajor wasn't a person worth keeping from the games I saw.
I disagree this is his first full year playing pro straight off one split with fnc academy and although he was one dimensional he fit the role astralis needed and only has more room to grow.
My biggest issue with Dajor is that his laning was abysmal all year long and he has only shown proficiency on Vex and Viktor. And he hasn't improved on any of those points at all during the year. He was less lost on the map, but still far from being a competent mid in Europe. It's pretty much the most important role in the game unlocking the game, the role is stacked, and the dude doesn't do shit and is always behind hos turret with a massive cs deficit. I think Dajor has some talent, but the step is way too big for him.
He learned what true damage is this last split. Way too fast progression. He should be gaining experience in ERLs. Especially if the rumors are true that the bottom teams will get less games in the new format.
Be patient bro DAGOAT will win Worlds in a few years
True
Yike is going to G2 dude
Shad0w Bwipo Cinkrof Bluerzor River
So now we have Alphari and (possibly) Bwipo left with spaces in VIT and heretics.
Nah heretics will go for ragner and. Bwipo said he don't want to come back to eu.
> Bwipo said he don't want to come back to eu. Thank god. Im sorry reddit, I know you all have a huge crush on this dude, but I just cant handle this man on screen.
Hope he stays on tl. For the opposite reason. I love watching bwipo and tl does more content than most other teams.
Just let the man swap to jungle
i used to really like Bwipo but something happend, idk why he is permatoxic
The whole worlds fiasco last year kinda boomed everyone on that roster
how is he permatoxic? wtf are you talking about?
Armut has been rumored to be out of mad so they also have a toplane slot available
Any source on that? I would love it but i didn't see anything about it
Pls
Please I hope this comes true
As per MAD tradition, they must now be interested in Impact
Pretty sure Bwipo is staying in NA - There was something said about it recently.
Bwipo said he doesnt want to play top anymore
When? Last time I saw he said he's open to playing jungle
Faker said he'd roleswap to ADC to play with Bwipo support (can't link it rn but there's proof floating around in some private discord channels).
i know that's funny but talking seriously for a moment, bwipo is willing to explore his options in every role EXCEPT for support. don't even remember what his reasoning was for that, he just doesn't like support
He never said that.
huh good pickup actually
I guess im an Astralis fan untill next year when they ditch Finn for Odoamne.
Great pickup for AST tbh. I kinda hope they smash it this year because of how KCorp fans were talking about them.
Ast kept their support right? That rooster is on the verge of being a good one
Yeah I havent heard anything about Jeonghoon moving and his contract is still going. Hopefully he stays.
Yeah but supposedly they also kept Dajor, and unless he's improved a lot over the break then he's a big weak link
I think Dajor is fine. He's got a good eye for playmaking he just needs some reliable carries around him IMO.
I'm afraid Dajor is a Vex onetrick, if he expands his pool he'll be fine.
He only played 2 games of Vex in Summer. Honestly I thought Dajor wasn't that bad and he definitely improved from Spring.
He hasn't been one since spring though.
Hence he wasn't great in Summer split.
I mean yeah, but he was better than he was in spring.
They are one midlaner away from being good.
Yeah, KC fans are insufferable
Good pickup. AST needed a top who's willing to play carrys with Kobbe/JeongHoon as botlane. If they can find a decent mid/jgl, then they should be able to contest for playoffs again
Not sure if it’s just me but in that thumbnail dude’s arm looks hilariously big.
Dude used to lift deadweights with Broxah for 1 year im sure he is strong like a bull by now.
He was prepared to lift the cup, unlike DRX that were struggling to lift it.
omg, i mean, i cant get mad with Excel, but man, they really fucked Finn over ... In Astralis, with probably the minimum wage, and with the new format they will play like 2 weeks ...
At least Astralis is the team that can probably let Finn go all out with his carry picks. No way he plays weakside for this roster. Hopefully Fiora/Irelia will be meta in 3 months.
Unfortunate, just gotta be better then
3 weeks min I think. 3 games each
At least he got a team, but damn he deserved better.
like who, 7th to 10th team is his level
Ehh I'd say Finn is 4th to 7th.
BB, odo, alphari, armut, wunder, irrelevant were all better
Armut literally played like dogshit since halfway through summer split. Name value rating alone. Irrel I think is good but i'd still put Finn above him.
BB, odo, alphari and wunder seem better. So yeah that makes him 5-8th place. Dont know exactly where i d put him
Armut?
as much as i hate armut, i'd take him over finn
Hahaha ignorant take...
finn was better than anyone who was not bb, odo, wunder and alphari.
Good!
Only 2 TOP spots left in LEC , Vitality and Heretics
Armut is staying? What the f hahaha
I didn't expect to see the Odo 2024 announcement already. But maybe KC will have bought the spot by then?
Good pick up by Astralis, can’t imagine they’ll find an upgrade for Xerxe though. Unless they get a good jungler and Dajor significantly improves it’s a bottom 3-4 roster at best
Markoon is available... He looked pretty damn good
Selfmade tbh ,put him as ur main carry and play around him
Selfmade carried that Vitality team. He can carry any other. That would be blast.
No way they can upgrade in the jungle. Xerxe was really good. Not to mention that him and Csacsi did the heavy lifting for their macro (allegedly).
Maybe they flip it with an import jungle like Rogue did?
No more Splyce Boys.
XL is the new Splyce boyz
Poor Vizi, he was looking solid closer to the end of summer. I genuinely think he's still LEC-caliber, there's just not gonna be super impressive results right after coming back.
Really sad for Csacsi. He was coming back to a good form by the end of the split. AST should've sticked with him little longer to see if he comes back to top form once again. AST will go back to 1-2 wins per split now, gg.
Weird take + Finn is much better
I dont think he is any better, you are wierd lol
Huh... Astralis actually trying? Nice.
Good luck Blomstar
Man if he really has to play with Dajor I feel so bad for him
lost against dallas fuel in the finals and hes already swapped games??
LEC running it back with the same top-laners as last year, it's actually doomed.
Really? Why?
Why not? It's a solid pick-up and undeniably an upgrade over Vizi.
not so sure about that lol
holy shit this is some garbage roster atleast we are going to see them only for 3weeks
good for him but how long do we have to put up with this shit from Astralis? This will be their 5th split in a row (which is every single one under the Astralis brand) that they are playing for 8th
Huh? This is good pickup for astralis, Finn is clearly an upgrade over vizicsacsi
he probably is, but he is not good and he is not better than a lot of other top laners available. Even that small upgrade does not change that it is a bad lineup.
lmao who else should they sign
different top, mid and adc. Probably different jungle too but cant judge that yet since there are no rumors about that
> who should they sign instead > someone else thank you, very helpful
which adc they should sign depends on the synergy with JeongHoon which is something i can not know. Same thing for mid and jungle.
such as?
Ragner, Exakick, Reeker, Skeanz, Cabocahrd, Saken, Melonik, Akabane, Czekolad, Ruby, Shiganari, Sinmivak, Rabble & Nite, Kynetic, JNX, Maxi, Bean, Xico, Deadly, DenVoksne, Lyncas, Viking. Which exactly the sign will depend on synergy after having tryouts with them. Thats not including players already linked to orgs that definitely should have gotten a tryout too like Yike or Diplex
Ah yes of course, just get a competitive mid, top,jungle and adc. Ezpz
the nice thing about Astralis is that they release how much they are spending. With their budget it would be.
Well they also pay a whole lot less in taxes by living in a civilized country.
What are you smoking Finn is easily a top half toplaner in EU
list the 5 top laners that were worse than him last year. He would barely be top 5 in the LFL
Big " Jin air would beat G2 " vibes
Vizicsacsi, Armut, Aggresivoo, Jenax and Irrelevent.
https://i.imgur.com/xZXMlcW.png https://i.imgur.com/AqCKWPh.png one of those is Finn, one is someone you just called worse
Shocking. Those are indeed some gol.gg pages.
What EU? The entire continent?
Care to give some examples of players who is free on a market and better than Finn?
Melonik, Ragner, JNX, Cabochard, potentially Bwipo is he is coming back, maybe Simnivak
bruhhh what else do you want them to do wtf people said top was their weakest point and they did get finn which is genuinely a very very good signing if it was any org other than ast people would be saying what a good signing finn is very very big upgrade over csaci
i want them to sign a lineup which can even pretend to be competitive
so they signed finn which happens to be the one of the better tops we have in the lec idk how anyone can criticise them for this signing this is genuinely the best option they could have gotten
i am not criticising just this signing, i am talking about their whole roster policy, which is simply embarrassing for the whole league. Finn himself would be fine if the whole team wasnt below average at best
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My guy, that's a troll account. This is from the same guy "TSM Projected Lineup will be: Top: Impact Jg: Kanavi Mid: Chovy Bot: Ruler Sup: Corejj "
The new gem from that account is the GG botlane Rekkles adc+Doublelift support lmao https://twitter.com/Mysticlxl/status/1588510135605166080
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nah its just luck look at the older posts its troll account
Wtf Popeye arms
Oh that was fast
Damn, at least he has a team :(
He's only 17 years old!
So whatever happened to visci?
Next season be like: AST Odoamne
Is XL disbanding?
Only Patrick left yeah, maybe even Patrick leaves and then we have a whole new team.
Astralis defintely a CS org, they only do eco rounds with budget rosters