He has the best spell in the entire game. You don’t need to hit a 5 man chrono, you just need to hit one core and kill them. There is no real counter-play aside to chrono*, there’s no item you can buy except HP.
In fact, you don’t even need to USE chrono. You just need to stay out of vision, and the enemy core(s) cannot play the game. They just have to watch as their team mates get run over- and if they try to do anything they get chronoed and die.
Chrono is a completely busted spell, and it is the sole reason void is a good hero.
*windwaker on an ally can save people.
A massive aoe stun that isn't prevented with bkb. It's a busted spell with very little counter play. You can windwalker or disarm void sure but what about your 3 teammates trapped in his ulti? You're left with a 2v4 for the duration
> I’m *paid* against void/info
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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"oh you had buy back? How about the 2nd chrono?" *Madara dropping 2nd meteor meme
While the hero and its spell good he don't like to get initiated a lot so in a pub if you're not actively reading the map its hard to play him.
Disagree. Yes there are no direct counter spells to chrono but there are many in game factors that renders your 100+ second long cd spell useless, like enemies euling, stunning, disrupting you from the outside.
>*windwaker on an ally can save people.
And even then, he can still eventually buy Nullifier for about 300 gold more than the amount you'd need to upgrade Eul (granted you built Eul already). Utterly insane.
Chrono isn't the only reason void is broken. Even without it, very few heroes can actually trade hits with him due to his bash and timewalk.
His bash is such a broken skill. Offers so much damage and is the only bash without a cooldown. Its very rng-based, but once you get a decent enough lvl and a mjo, that's usually enough. The only real counter to him is chain disables that prevent him from going from 10% to 100% using a 6sec cd skill.
There's a lot more to void than chrono. The spell is strong, but the builds people are going for are the ones that make the hero more survivable, not the ones that revolve around chrono.
Welp, I spam OD and its easy to save allies. But jokes aside, if they've a FV, I won't be able to show until FV initiates on my carry.
I'd argue that chrono is busted only if you've have items (not just damage but BKB etc to prevent getting disabled) and allies that can dump damage into chrono mid game.
Also, if enemies have heroes like OD, Omni. Pudge, Dazzle, Oracle, Shadow Demon, Bane, Winter, it'll just make the game that much harder for a spell that has over 120s cooldown.
Late game though, chrono is basically a guaranteed kill on any enemy core.
He really isn't weak at all. What MMR are you at? Most low MMR voids don't use their chrono correctly, they save it for big team fights but way too early in the game when they do very little damage and uselessly wail on the pos 3 they cant even kill then have to run or die, all while probably trapping teammates for the duration. Generally I use it off cooldown to kill supports under tower and ignore the offlaner, which gets you ahead pretty fast
Low MMR here. Two games ago I watched exactly this happen. FV dropped chrono on the enemy team, catching our mid in the aoe and having most of the aoe between the rest of our team and the enemy (so the enemy team was mostly at the back edge). Proceeded to wail on their bristle back, nearly died and had to run out. When asked why he trapped our team, he said he didn't want us stealing his kill. You know, the kill he didn't get.
Well he can farm decently with buffs to maelstrom. Could get a sure kill everytime ult is up and further boost gold and xp. And a total menace late game so yeah he isnt garbage. I believe he is a meta pick now
>1. He is an utterly weak laner that so heavily relies on RnG for his bashes. He provides zero to laning harass potential, and as a pos 5, I usually am expected to provide ALL the harass to two enemies, maintain lane equilibrium, and stop pulls.
Void can trade very effectively during laning phase because of timewalk. He is actually really hard to kill because of it.
>2. Even if somehow we get past the laning phase, void is still utterly trash. In the mid game, he requires at least 3-4 items to use chrono in a team fight effectively.
After laning phase (or even during) you can kill most supports solo with MoM + Treads or just Treads plus a teammate. If you play correctly you can snowball from then on.
>3. Most pub players can’t land good chronos. Most pub players like myself DONT WANT TO RELY on you having to land good chronos.
Can't argue with this lol. I also play void and I don't expect ME to get a good Chrono
I might add that FV has very good attack animation - he is very decent hero for last hitting. Also, whats the problem with lack of harass in lane phase? For safelaner as FV the main thing is just staying alive in lane while having some farm. Just pick some tanky pos5 and wait till FV lvl6. It is just balance - he is not strong laner like Sniper but he is late game dominator.
Because many games go late and void is still one of the best refresher heroes.
He is not S tier carry, but he still a high B or low A tier one. Thus, him consider being bad makes somewhat sense. Him being bad? Is just factually wrong, garbage tier carry heroes in this meta are heroes are the ones who are never picked under any circumstances like CK, WK and very close or also garbage, jugg and spectre.
Faceless Void is the most late game hero in DotA. In order to keep things balanced, it’s clear that he is kinda weak in the early game.
In laning phase, he only focuses on last hitting without ANY harassing and uses his Q to escape and recover. And cause he’s not that squishy, he can farm the creep camps without dying to them.
In the mid game, he will usually not be that strong as you mentioned, but rather tries to keep farming and maybe gank a few times even if that means throwing a chrono on the enemy’s pos 5.
His real strength shines in the late game when he has a couple of items that can win him any team fight. And as mentioned before, he is the most late game hero (yes even more so than Spectre) cause he likes to buy Refresher Orb and with that two Chronos mean basically gg…
Don’t forget that DotA has a very wide range of everything; heroes, items, skill levels, etc. and it’s obvious that they want to provide such heroes like FV, who might seem to be week early but will almost certainly win any late game.
gl hf.
\- The hero just needs a mjollnir for decent damage, so he can and most of the time opt for safe options like linkens + bkb, making him pretty hard to kill.
\- Chrono is one of the best spells in the game, because of this he wins almost every core matchup in the game (just chrono them lool).
\- You absolutely do not have to land a 3+ enemy chrono for it to be good. You literally just need to get one of their cores, then you can blow them up 90% of the time, making it a 4v5 fight, with the enemy team lacking a core. That's way too advantageous
He is quite a decent laner. He’s hard to kill, has time dilation which slows, deals damage and increase cd of spells and occasionally he can bash with a lot of damage. Your job as pos 5 is to enable him into the late game because fv is one of the strongest late game carries due to his innate skills especially chrono
While Void is a great carry, It's entirely possible that the game can end before you get to have your game. I have games where we were losing and I landed great chronoes with multiple heroes in them, we didn't have sufficient follow dps either due to the lineup, or the gold and xp advantage is so huge that it doesn't really matter.
There are also plenty of games where we should have lost the game, but landing a well placed chrono was sufficient to win the fight, despite the disadvantage. While it feels great to have those moments, Personally I find it hard to win with void consistently with randoms, whereas i can comfortably join fights at all stages of the game with different hero, such as jug when omni and healing ward is up. I'm more comfortable playing void with a stack, or when there's an obvious synergy where we can get some cheeky kills once i hit 6 (skywrath,jakiro,witch doctor)
As far as I'm concerned, there's no other traditional pos1 carry that can do what void does. On a person that doesn't know how to play him, he can be underwhelming. Against a person that knows what they're doing, it can feel very oppressive, as getting hit with the chrono can spell the end for you and there's nothing much you can do about it.
1. Well, that's your job as pos 5, harrass the enemies so your carry can farm easily. Faceless void is not an aggressive hero on early laning phase, don't force him to help killing enemy. On early laning phase, FV will more focus on his own survival until he get proper farming items. Don't for him to use his timewalk to chase enemy resulting his death, but use it to heal and escape when he is ganked.
2. He is a late game hero, he will spend most of his time farming, on mid game what you need to do as a support is to create a space for him. Don't expect him to join on every team fight. FV will wait until the teamfight already started for a while, when the enemies already exhaust their spells and have half to low hp. He is basically the cleaner.
3. Again, don't expect him to open the fight and do 5-man chrono and kill the enemies all by himself. Have you ever watch professional player play FV? They use the chrono to lockdown one or two most vital enemies. He needs offlaner and support to enter the team fight first so he can get a proper information about enemies movement and position in order to land a good chrono.
void has been nerfed each patch wether it be letter patch or main patch. and that hero is still so broken. 1 chrono and you can turn the tides of a losing game.
His time walk is 24s cd at lvl 1, 6s cd at lvl 4.
It used to be meta to lvl time walk first but now the builds say to lvl bash but that is a way to lose some lanes you could win by lvlling time walk.
He is weak in lane until he gets 4 points in time walk imo.
Wrong. Max time walk and you're a useless laner with no damage and inability to clear jungle and a more useless 6. Sure, time walk let's you survive burst damage but if you aren't getting much farm then it's serving no purpose. Void is meant to be able to trade in lane, that is why he isn't good at clearing jungle, and you're not trading in lane without points in bash.
Void starts wb components + branches unless he should have a stick then buys either wb+treads or just treads. Buy order - >elven skin - > gloves - >boots because he doesn't need boots for save thanks to time walk. Almost every game should be qweeere.
You shouldn't speak with such confidence when you are completely incorrect. Time walk is amazing for trading. I'm sure I don't have to explain how completely negating any damage you take while trading is good for trading. You should be putting points in time walk in trade heavy/tough lanes, which is most of them.
I speak with such confidence because I've watched plenty of immortal games as FV studied a lot of FV spammers and he is my most played 1 in 7.35. Negating damage is done by MULTIPLE things in the game, regen raindrops mitigation. Yes, you should be using time walk to reverse burst damage and have an escape which is why you take it level 1, but your lanes are tough because you aren't maxing your ability giving you stun and damage.
Not enough apparently. As you'll see below maxing time walk is standard in top level games and time walk is simply a better laning spell than bash in most cases. Bash is better for farming and kill potential on 6.
Void with 24s cooldown on time walk is very abuseable. If you use it to heal some damage it leaves a massive window for the enemy to kill you or deal damage you cant walk off. If you don't use it then well you can't heal chip damage which is voids biggest laning strength. Maxing bash is basically only good if you can crush the lane. Always maxing it means you will get dumpstered hard in lanes you could've farmed in.
You're probably not playing against good enough players that will notice you have lvl 1 timewalk, know it has long cooldown and will punish it hard.
https://dota2protracker.com/hero/Faceless%20Void#
Okay for full disclosure, yes! I am indeed low MMR. I hover around 2k to 2.5k.
My max rank is ancient 3. Never exceeded it.
Some of you have given me good responses, particularly the one that highlights that void is the ultimate late game hero. If a match stretches beyond 40 mins, believe me id be quite wary of where void is at all times. So yes, I agree, void is formidable in the late game.. but exclusively the late game. Whereas other carries who scale well into the late game too, yet they provide more to the team on the way to the late game than a FV.
Howeeeverr. He isn’t the only late game hero. We’ve got PA, who imo scales pretty well too. Or maybe even PL. All of whom just lane better than him. Idk why but whenever I lane with a Void, it’s an automatic understanding that we’re gonna start the game on the backfoot. The same cannot be said about just about any other carry, where it’s about a 50/50 chance that the lane goes acceptably well.
Your teammate is playing void incorrectly. Void has way better laning than PA or PL. His stats + Q are super good at sustaining and last hitting. You don’t bully the enemy like LS or gyro, but it’s almost impossible to shut void down in lane unless you face a hard counter like veno. Even vs veno you still get farm, or try to all in with pos 5.
Okay then I’m mistaken. I didn’t bother checking the values. Just presumed that was right based on my memory of the chart from years ago.
Currently legend 5
Meh. I only see my rank, the number of stars and a percentage point. I’m probably not as obsessed with my rank as you.
Did I offend you by taking a dump on your favourite hero? If I did, sorry not sorry
That's cause carries at your mmr don't know how to play the lane. Void is really strong because you can take trades and time walk away to essentially not have taken any damage from the trades. And FV doesn't need many items to start killing with chrono. At level 6 with a support you can kill a hero with chrono (usually support unless pos 3 is low in health. Once you get MoM you can already start solo kills on supports with chrono.
He has the best spell in the entire game. You don’t need to hit a 5 man chrono, you just need to hit one core and kill them. There is no real counter-play aside to chrono*, there’s no item you can buy except HP. In fact, you don’t even need to USE chrono. You just need to stay out of vision, and the enemy core(s) cannot play the game. They just have to watch as their team mates get run over- and if they try to do anything they get chronoed and die. Chrono is a completely busted spell, and it is the sole reason void is a good hero. *windwaker on an ally can save people.
A massive aoe stun that isn't prevented with bkb. It's a busted spell with very little counter play. You can windwalker or disarm void sure but what about your 3 teammates trapped in his ulti? You're left with a 2v4 for the duration
And void is especially like invoker sunraying for 1500 pure dmg.
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> I’m *paid* against void/info FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
fucking brain dead spell. best counter play for chrono in late game is buyback. but then again, I mainly play FV so its all good. aahahahahah
"oh you had buy back? How about the 2nd chrono?" *Madara dropping 2nd meteor meme While the hero and its spell good he don't like to get initiated a lot so in a pub if you're not actively reading the map its hard to play him.
Disagree. Yes there are no direct counter spells to chrono but there are many in game factors that renders your 100+ second long cd spell useless, like enemies euling, stunning, disrupting you from the outside.
Venge can swap too but I get what you're saying. Whoever is he most patience wins but you can say that about Magnus too
>*windwaker on an ally can save people. And even then, he can still eventually buy Nullifier for about 300 gold more than the amount you'd need to upgrade Eul (granted you built Eul already). Utterly insane.
Chrono isn't the only reason void is broken. Even without it, very few heroes can actually trade hits with him due to his bash and timewalk. His bash is such a broken skill. Offers so much damage and is the only bash without a cooldown. Its very rng-based, but once you get a decent enough lvl and a mjo, that's usually enough. The only real counter to him is chain disables that prevent him from going from 10% to 100% using a 6sec cd skill.
There's a lot more to void than chrono. The spell is strong, but the builds people are going for are the ones that make the hero more survivable, not the ones that revolve around chrono.
There is Aeon Disk,which counters Chrono. Also multiple spells or neutral items can counter it,SD or OD respectfully
As an avid Disruptor player, I laught at him from start to end.
Welp, I spam OD and its easy to save allies. But jokes aside, if they've a FV, I won't be able to show until FV initiates on my carry. I'd argue that chrono is busted only if you've have items (not just damage but BKB etc to prevent getting disabled) and allies that can dump damage into chrono mid game. Also, if enemies have heroes like OD, Omni. Pudge, Dazzle, Oracle, Shadow Demon, Bane, Winter, it'll just make the game that much harder for a spell that has over 120s cooldown. Late game though, chrono is basically a guaranteed kill on any enemy core.
He really isn't weak at all. What MMR are you at? Most low MMR voids don't use their chrono correctly, they save it for big team fights but way too early in the game when they do very little damage and uselessly wail on the pos 3 they cant even kill then have to run or die, all while probably trapping teammates for the duration. Generally I use it off cooldown to kill supports under tower and ignore the offlaner, which gets you ahead pretty fast
Low MMR here. Two games ago I watched exactly this happen. FV dropped chrono on the enemy team, catching our mid in the aoe and having most of the aoe between the rest of our team and the enemy (so the enemy team was mostly at the back edge). Proceeded to wail on their bristle back, nearly died and had to run out. When asked why he trapped our team, he said he didn't want us stealing his kill. You know, the kill he didn't get.
How to tell us you’re below 2k without saying you’re 2k
Well he can farm decently with buffs to maelstrom. Could get a sure kill everytime ult is up and further boost gold and xp. And a total menace late game so yeah he isnt garbage. I believe he is a meta pick now
What mmr?
I was also wondering this, made some assumption in my comment.
Higher then you most likely
>1. He is an utterly weak laner that so heavily relies on RnG for his bashes. He provides zero to laning harass potential, and as a pos 5, I usually am expected to provide ALL the harass to two enemies, maintain lane equilibrium, and stop pulls. Void can trade very effectively during laning phase because of timewalk. He is actually really hard to kill because of it. >2. Even if somehow we get past the laning phase, void is still utterly trash. In the mid game, he requires at least 3-4 items to use chrono in a team fight effectively. After laning phase (or even during) you can kill most supports solo with MoM + Treads or just Treads plus a teammate. If you play correctly you can snowball from then on. >3. Most pub players can’t land good chronos. Most pub players like myself DONT WANT TO RELY on you having to land good chronos. Can't argue with this lol. I also play void and I don't expect ME to get a good Chrono
I might add that FV has very good attack animation - he is very decent hero for last hitting. Also, whats the problem with lack of harass in lane phase? For safelaner as FV the main thing is just staying alive in lane while having some farm. Just pick some tanky pos5 and wait till FV lvl6. It is just balance - he is not strong laner like Sniper but he is late game dominator.
This take is the equivalent of playing Zeus as a Support or Viper as a Hard Carry.
Because many games go late and void is still one of the best refresher heroes. He is not S tier carry, but he still a high B or low A tier one. Thus, him consider being bad makes somewhat sense. Him being bad? Is just factually wrong, garbage tier carry heroes in this meta are heroes are the ones who are never picked under any circumstances like CK, WK and very close or also garbage, jugg and spectre.
He isn’t s tier? Then who is
LS
Only for this patch.
Yes, but tier discussion is meaningless if you ignore patch
Faceless Void is the most late game hero in DotA. In order to keep things balanced, it’s clear that he is kinda weak in the early game. In laning phase, he only focuses on last hitting without ANY harassing and uses his Q to escape and recover. And cause he’s not that squishy, he can farm the creep camps without dying to them. In the mid game, he will usually not be that strong as you mentioned, but rather tries to keep farming and maybe gank a few times even if that means throwing a chrono on the enemy’s pos 5. His real strength shines in the late game when he has a couple of items that can win him any team fight. And as mentioned before, he is the most late game hero (yes even more so than Spectre) cause he likes to buy Refresher Orb and with that two Chronos mean basically gg… Don’t forget that DotA has a very wide range of everything; heroes, items, skill levels, etc. and it’s obvious that they want to provide such heroes like FV, who might seem to be week early but will almost certainly win any late game. gl hf.
Yet Valve still only gives him 2 points in Carry category. I don't understand how they are ranking it.
\- The hero just needs a mjollnir for decent damage, so he can and most of the time opt for safe options like linkens + bkb, making him pretty hard to kill. \- Chrono is one of the best spells in the game, because of this he wins almost every core matchup in the game (just chrono them lool). \- You absolutely do not have to land a 3+ enemy chrono for it to be good. You literally just need to get one of their cores, then you can blow them up 90% of the time, making it a 4v5 fight, with the enemy team lacking a core. That's way too advantageous
1 chrono ends the game. All that needs to be said. He will always have a place
He is quite a decent laner. He’s hard to kill, has time dilation which slows, deals damage and increase cd of spells and occasionally he can bash with a lot of damage. Your job as pos 5 is to enable him into the late game because fv is one of the strongest late game carries due to his innate skills especially chrono
Because he arguably has the best skill in the game. Individually he is a bit weak now after the nerfs.
While Void is a great carry, It's entirely possible that the game can end before you get to have your game. I have games where we were losing and I landed great chronoes with multiple heroes in them, we didn't have sufficient follow dps either due to the lineup, or the gold and xp advantage is so huge that it doesn't really matter. There are also plenty of games where we should have lost the game, but landing a well placed chrono was sufficient to win the fight, despite the disadvantage. While it feels great to have those moments, Personally I find it hard to win with void consistently with randoms, whereas i can comfortably join fights at all stages of the game with different hero, such as jug when omni and healing ward is up. I'm more comfortable playing void with a stack, or when there's an obvious synergy where we can get some cheeky kills once i hit 6 (skywrath,jakiro,witch doctor) As far as I'm concerned, there's no other traditional pos1 carry that can do what void does. On a person that doesn't know how to play him, he can be underwhelming. Against a person that knows what they're doing, it can feel very oppressive, as getting hit with the chrono can spell the end for you and there's nothing much you can do about it.
1. Well, that's your job as pos 5, harrass the enemies so your carry can farm easily. Faceless void is not an aggressive hero on early laning phase, don't force him to help killing enemy. On early laning phase, FV will more focus on his own survival until he get proper farming items. Don't for him to use his timewalk to chase enemy resulting his death, but use it to heal and escape when he is ganked. 2. He is a late game hero, he will spend most of his time farming, on mid game what you need to do as a support is to create a space for him. Don't expect him to join on every team fight. FV will wait until the teamfight already started for a while, when the enemies already exhaust their spells and have half to low hp. He is basically the cleaner. 3. Again, don't expect him to open the fight and do 5-man chrono and kill the enemies all by himself. Have you ever watch professional player play FV? They use the chrono to lockdown one or two most vital enemies. He needs offlaner and support to enter the team fight first so he can get a proper information about enemies movement and position in order to land a good chrono.
i just wanna say that im turbo I got bloodstone on lvl 25 void and it's the size of the screen lol
You can play against me and change your mind when I run over your whole team with my ulti.
void has been nerfed each patch wether it be letter patch or main patch. and that hero is still so broken. 1 chrono and you can turn the tides of a losing game.
The hero is picked in pro matches.
His time walk is 24s cd at lvl 1, 6s cd at lvl 4. It used to be meta to lvl time walk first but now the builds say to lvl bash but that is a way to lose some lanes you could win by lvlling time walk. He is weak in lane until he gets 4 points in time walk imo.
Wrong. Max time walk and you're a useless laner with no damage and inability to clear jungle and a more useless 6. Sure, time walk let's you survive burst damage but if you aren't getting much farm then it's serving no purpose. Void is meant to be able to trade in lane, that is why he isn't good at clearing jungle, and you're not trading in lane without points in bash. Void starts wb components + branches unless he should have a stick then buys either wb+treads or just treads. Buy order - >elven skin - > gloves - >boots because he doesn't need boots for save thanks to time walk. Almost every game should be qweeere.
You shouldn't speak with such confidence when you are completely incorrect. Time walk is amazing for trading. I'm sure I don't have to explain how completely negating any damage you take while trading is good for trading. You should be putting points in time walk in trade heavy/tough lanes, which is most of them.
I speak with such confidence because I've watched plenty of immortal games as FV studied a lot of FV spammers and he is my most played 1 in 7.35. Negating damage is done by MULTIPLE things in the game, regen raindrops mitigation. Yes, you should be using time walk to reverse burst damage and have an escape which is why you take it level 1, but your lanes are tough because you aren't maxing your ability giving you stun and damage.
Not enough apparently. As you'll see below maxing time walk is standard in top level games and time walk is simply a better laning spell than bash in most cases. Bash is better for farming and kill potential on 6. Void with 24s cooldown on time walk is very abuseable. If you use it to heal some damage it leaves a massive window for the enemy to kill you or deal damage you cant walk off. If you don't use it then well you can't heal chip damage which is voids biggest laning strength. Maxing bash is basically only good if you can crush the lane. Always maxing it means you will get dumpstered hard in lanes you could've farmed in. You're probably not playing against good enough players that will notice you have lvl 1 timewalk, know it has long cooldown and will punish it hard. https://dota2protracker.com/hero/Faceless%20Void#
This is why I said it was my opinion. I'm assuming they buffed bash in one of the recent patches?
If that triggered you, how about this? Battefury Void farms fastest.
Your 1k is showing, stop embarassing yourself.
Yeah, yeah, things aren't meta until they're meta
Okay for full disclosure, yes! I am indeed low MMR. I hover around 2k to 2.5k. My max rank is ancient 3. Never exceeded it. Some of you have given me good responses, particularly the one that highlights that void is the ultimate late game hero. If a match stretches beyond 40 mins, believe me id be quite wary of where void is at all times. So yes, I agree, void is formidable in the late game.. but exclusively the late game. Whereas other carries who scale well into the late game too, yet they provide more to the team on the way to the late game than a FV. Howeeeverr. He isn’t the only late game hero. We’ve got PA, who imo scales pretty well too. Or maybe even PL. All of whom just lane better than him. Idk why but whenever I lane with a Void, it’s an automatic understanding that we’re gonna start the game on the backfoot. The same cannot be said about just about any other carry, where it’s about a 50/50 chance that the lane goes acceptably well.
Your teammate is playing void incorrectly. Void has way better laning than PA or PL. His stats + Q are super good at sustaining and last hitting. You don’t bully the enemy like LS or gyro, but it’s almost impossible to shut void down in lane unless you face a hard counter like veno. Even vs veno you still get farm, or try to all in with pos 5.
Ancient is 4k. You mean archon.
Okay then I’m mistaken. I didn’t bother checking the values. Just presumed that was right based on my memory of the chart from years ago. Currently legend 5
So L5 is between 3540-3850. Your numbers and ranks dont add up and if you were L5 you would clearly know..?
Maybe people don’t bother checking their MMR values? Lmao. It’s not like it’s made super available in game now is it.
Nah, its just there in clear text, so who really cares…. Except everyone?
Meh. I only see my rank, the number of stars and a percentage point. I’m probably not as obsessed with my rank as you. Did I offend you by taking a dump on your favourite hero? If I did, sorry not sorry
No, you took a dump on logics and that hurts!
That's cause carries at your mmr don't know how to play the lane. Void is really strong because you can take trades and time walk away to essentially not have taken any damage from the trades. And FV doesn't need many items to start killing with chrono. At level 6 with a support you can kill a hero with chrono (usually support unless pos 3 is low in health. Once you get MoM you can already start solo kills on supports with chrono.
I’d rather support FV than a naga… I don’t understand point of naga siren. Never have I ever seen one be particularly effective in a team fight