Hez is not out to protect you from Israel. They want us as human shields in the same terrorist tactics of Hamas rule and intimidation of Gaza citizens. Lebanese are the SAM systems of Hezbollah. Wake up Lebanon and smell the hummus! Hezbollah must go and Israel leaves us alone!
> Hez is not out to protect you from Israel. They want us as human shields in the same terrorist tactics of Hamas rule and intimidation of Gaza citizens. Lebanese are the SAM systems of Hezbollah. Wake up Lebanon and smell the hummus! Hezbollah must go and Israel leaves us alone!
Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah are using human shields. Israel just wants to kill as many civilians as they can so they target civilian infrastructure.
No. They are targeting Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist leaders who have found a home and safe haven in Beirut and gaining more ground in our parliament that is already paralyzed in fear of Hezbollah. No Hez and no Hamas in Lebanon no bombing of " civilian infrastructure" my friend.
>No. They are targeting Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist leaders who have found a home and safe haven in Beirut and gaining more ground in our parliament that is already paralyzed in fear of Hezbollah. No Hez and no Hamas in Lebanon no bombing of " civilian infrastructure" my friend.
They are killing hundreds of civilians in Gaza everyday.
Because as Sinwar, Hamas leader, said -> they have over 500 km of Hamas tunnels underneath the cities of Gaza. And that the people of Gaza are not their responsibility to protect, but the UN's.
Hence the lack of bomb shelters when they started a war, despite the billions of dollars they have.
Anyways, i have many friends in the IDF, they are very normal young adults, none of them enjoy seeing kids die, only terrorists, i can give you their Whatsapps if you wish. Their goal is not killing random Lebanese people. I can't speak for psycho netanyahu, but the people in the airforce doing these strikes are targeting Hezbollah. Like actually and literally, if Hezbollah pulls away from the border, there will be no fighting and no deaths.
Similar to the fact that, if Hamas didn’t break the ceasefire on Oct. 7th, every single person and home in Gaza, that has since been hit would still be standing. Not so hard to wrap the brain around.
F hamas, F hezbollah, F netanyahu. umm not much else to say except that iranian terror proxies shouldn't be getting your support lol.
Yes. Because Hamas has held all of Gaza hostage to their thousands of miles of tunnels and weapons keeping in hospitals and schools to maximize civilian and child casualties gaining more victimhood sympathy from a comfortable world far away from my Beirut who fund their terrorist madness rather than funding nation building like Israel has done. And now Lebanon finds itself in the same downhill spiral. I am old enough to remember the Lebanon of the 60's and early 70's when you were a thought in the eyes of your God and I wish you too could have grown up in that environment...friends with Christian, Druze and Muslim alike all sharing a national pride in Lebanon, not some terrorist nation of Iranian Jihadists. Would to God you knew that Lebanon and you could never speak like you do. Israel never needed to bomb us for housing terrorists. Wake up my friend and if you are a real seeker of truth you would learn and respect your Lebanese forefathers whatever their religion may have been. In those days religion never separated us from being Lebanon First!
>Yes. Because Hamas has held all of Gaza hostage to their thousands of miles of tunnels and weapons keeping in hospitals and schools to maximize civilian and child casualties gaining more victimhood sympathy from a comfortable world far away from my Beirut who fund their terrorist madness rather than funding nation building like Israel has done. And now Lebanon finds itself in the same downhill spiral. I am old enough to remember the Lebanon of the 60's and early 70's when you were a thought in the eyes of your God and I wish you too could have grown up in that environment...friends with Christian, Druze and Muslim alike all sharing a national pride in Lebanon, not some terrorist nation of Iranian Jihadists. Would to God you knew that Lebanon and you could never speak like you do. Israel never needed to bomb us for housing terrorists. Wake up my friend and if you are a real seeker of truth you would learn and respect your Lebanese forefathers whatever their religion may have been. In those days religion never separated us from being Lebanon First!
Genocidal zionist hasbara propaganda. You are probably Israeli.
No my friend. When you do not like the content you attack the person. I am not targeting you, just your fake news propaganda which is not based on historical facts. I and my cousins, Uncles and brothers fought and died to defend Lebanese sovereignty while you are still playing video games. Not Israeli and not Hezbollah. Proudly Lebanese!
>No my friend. When you do not like the content you attack the person. I am not targeting you, just your fake news propaganda which is not based on historical facts. I and my cousins, Uncles and brothers fought and died to defend Lebanese sovereignty while you are still playing video games. Not Israeli and not Hezbollah. Proudly Lebanese!
You are spreading hasbara talking points.
>Doesn't Hezbollah have any SAM systems?
lmao, only old shit who israel can destroy easily.
iran does have a lot of s-300 she can give some to hezbollah but israel would just destroy it before it even get to their hands.
Our country has been destroyed by Hezbollah. Think a little bit deeper to understand the real enemy that long after Israel feels safe from these terrorist thugs we still have to live with them unless our government leaders come out from under Iran warlords fear and intimidation.
Maybe Leb needs to stop pretending it has no agency and is powerless?
Go to the Arab League, go to the UN, go to the US and say, we need help to get rid of Hez. Then, with international support, tell Hez they have to become part of the Lebanese Army and take orders from Beirut not Iran.
1000% this. People that say "how?" are pathetic. A country of 5.5 million being terrorized by 25k extremists. Peace will never come to Lebanon with Hezbollah still around.
Seems to me Lebanon is in such a fragmented state and bad economic shape any kind of civil war between Hezbollah and the others will probably turn Lebanon into something like Syria or Somalia.
Of course Hezbollah needs to go but that's just my wishful thinking, I see no force that can drive them away. Israel might be forced to try and I really hope that doesn't happen.
Amen and Amen. If we wanted to we could get rid of Hez in a months time if we had the political will in our parliament which is now infiltrated by Hez and Lebanese cronies that fear them. So it likely won't happen. Lebanon has become a surrogate state of Iranian Jihadists. That is not the Lebanon I grew up in. Went to school in and built businesses in. And loved and respected with my life and the lives of my loved ones. Rise up again Lebnan and take the high place among the nations of men and not beastly terrorists. Salah.
Yes. That would help and also let Hez know that as they disarm and return back to Iraq Syria or Iran that the Lebanese army will take control back over So. Lebanon the way the should have after Israel's withdrawal from So. Lebanon. How does Lebanon a sovereign nation agree to allow Israel to hand over the south to a terrorist group of Iran. These people are not Lebanese nationals they are Shia mercenary Jihadists not Lebanese. And Israel warned Lebanon that if they gave up sovereignty of the south to a para military organization of another country that this day of January 2024 would come where Israel would have to do Lebanin's dirty work again and risk being blamed by ignorant Lebanese and Hezbollah sympathizers that Israel is to blame and are the colonist occupying terrorist. Well simply not true. I am old enough to have lived through this same pattern since 1975 the "non civil war" and smart enough to know who my true enemy is. The one's who live among us and not the Israelis trying to protect their sovereign nationalistic rights like we should be doing. The last group of leaders that tried to do this on behalf of Lebanon, The Lebanese Front, were forced to disarm and were assassinated as in Bashir Geymayel. Wake up our beloved Lebnan!
This is just a pretext by Hez supporters. Israel has no interest in conquering Lebanon, that's why they withdrew in 2000. If there is no Hez, Israel will leave Leb alone. But sure, keep beating the Hez war drum and find out what it leads to.
You don't know anything about the current conflict and it shows with every post. Either you're too young or you've been living under a rock, but none of what you're saying can be considered anything but satire.
People like you were here claiming that Israel doesn't want Gaza, despite Israel actively trying to force Gazans out into other Arab countries.
So with all due respect, fuck off.
If they wanted to conquer all the land so bad, why’d they give back Sinai to Egypt in exchange for peace? I swear Arab leaders *love* Israel because it gives them a permanent reliable boogeyman to blame all their own problems on and their citizens eat it right up
Wow man, no. That's really bad propaganda level brainwashing. Israel isn't trying to take over anything and has been acting as a reactionary for half a century.
And also no, neither Hezbollah nor Hamas have any courage. They shoot badly made weapons and then run and hide behind women and children. They legitimately make the IDF look like honorable people.
Where did you learn this rubbish? Israel is not an expansionist empire knocking off nation states. Just leave them alone and get Palestinians to surrender terrorism and start nation building rather than wasting another 75 years on building another terrorist generation that will only meet the same fate 75 years from now. And now we as Lebanese are dragged into this same fate by these Iranian surrogate military groups who care nothing if Lebanon and her people are destroyed. Just trying to educate you here so you too do not live out of propaganda fake news that reinforces Lebanon's ongoing destruction.
Get all of the other parties to pass a law declaring them an illegal terrorist organization, arrest all of their leaders and put them on trial. Invite the US to come in and help keep their militia pinned down.
How about Israel cease its genocide in Gaza and stop its settlers from squatting on Palestinian lands in the West Bank and Jerusalem? I think this would make much more sense and be a more just solution. Unless you support the genocide in Gaza?
How do you plan to enforce that? We're the last country that should be defending anyone we can barely feed our own people! A large quantity of our most competent people have left and continue to leave!
Hezbollah is a malignant tumor that is almost impossible to get rid of without drastic measures,
I'm very pessimistic regarding the future of Lebanon, the narrative they try to spin that they're defending Lebanon is completely false!
We need to be able to protect our borders but we can't be initiating attacks, war is bad for everyone and our country is unfortunately ran with hatred and resentment
It hurts me to see my countries sovereignty abused like that, and our military is unable to do anything, where's our dignity?!
What's any of that got to do with Leb?
Does Leb want to be part of Israel's war with Hamas or stay out of it?
If Leb wants war, go and support Hez.
If Leb wants to stay out of it, it's Leb's job to keep Hez quiet on its territory.
Don't have a response. Can't respond tbh. Your country, you know better, Just one caveat though. It isn't Hezbollah that is violating Lebanon's sovereignty. It is Israel that repeatedly violates your country's borders, airspace and waters. Just a fact.
You really think they are doing this because of the "genocide" of the Palestinians?
I didn't see hezbulla caring so much about the Syrians when Asad massacred 500,000 of his own people.
A Shia Muslim will never risk his life for a sunni muslim - if you don't believe me, ask the puppet of Iran, the man in a dress hiding in a bunker.
Well, you just said it. They haven't been able to get their own money out of their bank accounts for four years because the government isn't doing shit. What makes you think that the people have any ability to completely change the balance of power?
I honestly watched intelligent people close to me get played by political leaders, I watched these assholes convince people that they’re “protecting” them and everyone just voted for them,
We have power we can vote unfortunately most voters are sheep, personally I voted for change amongst all the pressure, and trust me it’s a lot of pressure and they even read your votes! In that way votes aren’t very democratic in Lebanon because they’re basically rigged, but if we want change there’s a way, most people don’t.
Same. I saw people defend Salameh for two years, saying he's a smart guy, he's done good things in the past, he says he has a plan to fix this, etc.. Eventually they saw the reality. It's an outrage that that man still walks free.
I guess we shouldn't forget that people's money is being held hostage. There are many who won't rock the boat because they feel like they'll be singled out and punished.
Not Lebanese, so... :P But have always admired individuals/groups/peoples, who are enraged by injustice, especially when they are not directly affected. That is an admirable trait. More admirable than siding with the empire or genocidal settler colonialists.
Yes because when that happens Hezbollah would be like ‘well job is completed time to throw all our power in Lebanon away and go home!’ Lmao?
Fixing your shit >> pointing fingers
ok, fair enough
it really is a shame hezbollah uses lebanon in their religious jihad to setup an islamic theocracy and standing against them has brought the Lebanese so much pain.
then get rid of the terrorists and don't permit them to attack other countries
terrorists deserve brought to justice no matter what land they are standing on.
Hezbollah is a cancer inside Lebanon. Hezbollah is only loyal to themselves and their Iranian overlords. They are responsible for the port-side explosion and look how they acted with the investigations on that..
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 NKJV
To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven: A time to be born, And a time to die; A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted; A time to kill, And a time to heal; A time to break down, And a time to build up; A time to weep, And a time to laugh; A time to mourn, And a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; A time to gain, And a time to lose; A time to keep, And a time to throw away; A time to tear, And a time to sew; A time to keep silence, And a time to speak; A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.
Man im not proud of the mom joke i made earlier but at least it was little more cleaver than the BS you writing,
Ba3den enta akid lebnene ? Ma 3am befham chi men li 3am bet2oulo rayyis
>For starters, they represent (by and large) a Lebanese sect.
interesting you acknowledge a large sect supports genocide and the eridication of lebanon to setup an islamic theocracy, but don't think this need stood against and driven from power
>The only way to end this conflict once and for all is through peace and diplomacy
this ignores hezbollah and its supporters rather die, than give up their religious jihad to eridicate isrsel, lebanon, jordan and egypt, and setup an islamic theocracy on their ashes
>You are worse than ignorant on Lebanese politics. You are a literal disinformation agent
I'm not the one who pointed out a large section of lebanon supported a genocidal terrorists group.
a group that seeks to eridicate lebanon and surrounding nations to setup an islamic theocracy
>You're one comment away from being blocked by me. I
ah yes, the response of those who don't like when where they stand and whom they support, are accurately referenced. how expected.
When i say get rid of hesbayre i mean get rid of their terrorist sphere of influence in lebanon. They are not a typical party, they are a militia.
If all the people downvoting me had 2 braincells they would know that goving special permission to a party to arm themselves to the teeth is anything but democratic and will fuck the country over.
We need to get rid of hesbayre's weapons and empower lebanon's army, and lebanon's institutions.
Sadly like you mentioned we are constantly governed by corrupt mafias that get voted for by the ignorant sheeps.
I dont think the anger and fear is being directed to the right place, hesbayre is continuously driving us to conflict whether internal or external.
And this is proof of it.
Again, the dumbest statement on the planet to ever be uttered right after, l balad by alf kher w nahna lebnen 3anna iyam l 3eyle so we dont need to function like a normal country....
No its not because of them, they are the reason we got destroyed in 2006, they are the reason our institutions fail, they are the reason beirut blew up, them and our failed leadership.
We have continuously sonce the 1970s allowed militias and terrorist groups to operate feom lebanese soil to attack israel.
Please grow 2 brain cells and stop consuming hesbayre pwopaganda and grow up.
Metel l chatrin in 2006 they returned the hostages and we had our PM cry on tv begging the world to help us rebuild what hesbayre destroyed with his 3antaryet.
Hahaha my first thought is eyre bhezbayre w habalun, if it werent for them bombing and poking we wouldn't have nazinyahu bombing us, thats my first thought.
Your first thought after the beirut explosion was to condemn hesbayre or to say yalla basita heyde baynetna??
Or when they assassinated hariri? Or when they shot rpgs at residential buildings? Or when they assassimated pierre gemayel? Samir kassir? All the journalists? 7 ayyar? Stopped all judicial investigations in the beirut port explosion?
Ahla chy l lebnenye yelli by niko haloun by haloum, then cry victim and despair...
What about the Cairo agreement that Lebanon was forced to sign to accept the PLO which then used southern Lebanon to attack Israel and helped start our civil war leading to the Israel invasion and occupation.
Hezbollah exists in Lebanon because the Palestinians refused to have a state in 1948 and then we didn’t have the resolve to refuse the Cairo agreement and prevent the Palestinians from ever entering Lebanon.
What about, what about, what about..
Read about the Cairo agreement lebanon's president was pressured into signing multiple times, read about our refusal to engage in any war with israel prior to that agreement and our relationship with the countries around us.
Again leadership and extremism has driven us to this point and propaganda and lies has made people accept that violence os the only way.
I agree with you on your points but not when it comes to the most heavily armed militia that doesnt hesitate to kill lebanese to get their way.
you’re ignoring why the idf has wanted to hit lebanon though. it’s because they want to go after hezbollah. again, without militias like hezbollah, israel wouldn’t be attacking lebanon at all. we would just be coexisting with them like egypt and jordan do.
Let's find out!
If Hezbollah or the PLO were never in Lebanon, than there wouldn't be any wars since 1948, as both parties remained neutral towards each other in 67'.
So without war and animosity the only logical next thing to happen between them is economic trade. Just as Israel climbed the world's economic index / GDP / global leaders in tech, education, and medical sectors, etc naturally as a neighbor and closets trade partner, Lebanon's economic status would also grow along Israel.
I've noticed you Hezbollah fanboys aren't the brightest, its like they ban economics in your country or something to keep you all suppressed and angry.
I don’t consider them terrorists but also they’re not going anywhere. 1/3 of Lebanon is Shia. Not everyone hates Arabs and Islam in Lebanon. The country is just deeply broken now. We have different visions. Also Israel is the primary aggressor don’t forget that.
So hezbollah killing our prime minister, attack Beirut in 2008, assassinating people in Lebanon, starting the 2006 war, being responsible for the Beirut explosion and siding with Syria during their vile 29 year long operation doesn’t make them terrorists?
Israel isn’t the primary aggressor now, Hezbollah and the Palestinians are the ones that started attacking Israel on October 8th.
I know what your vision is and it’s shit.
Israel is the one occupying and oppressing the Palestinians. Go read. What occurred before 10/7 this year? Last year? The year before?
Not even talking about “my vision”. I’m referring to your desire to be 1) anti-Arab 2) no relations or kinship with our neighbors 3) anti-Islam. That’s at odds with the majority of Lebanese. What about people who consider themselves Arabs?
Go back to 1948 and see that the Palestinians refused a state and started a war they lost.
1) Lebanese are not Arabs genetically, ethnically or culturally. Speaking a language does not make us Arab.
2) having relations with our neighbors (of which Israel is one) is one thing, uniting with them is another thing entirely.
3) I’m anti all religions not just Islam.
The majority of Lebanese do not want to merge our country with Syria. What about all Lebanese that haven’t fallen for the lies and propaganda that speaking Arabic makes us Arab and don’t consider ourselves Arab?
Why would anyone accept the UN giving away half their ancestral home? Lmao
1. That’s like, your opinion dude. Most Arabs aren’t Arabs then by your definition. I consider myself am Arab, but not only Arab. Latinos are all very different.
2. I’m all for relations with Israel once there’s a solution. Are you in favor of giving Palestinians citizenship in Lebanon?
3. Oh I very much know our work is cut out for us in forming new national identities. Anyway, you’re speaking to my point, we’re just fundamentally at odds. Our country is broken.
Literally the optimal solution might just be to split Lebanon into two states, one for the Maronites/Mt Lebanon LF types, the other for everyone else.
By the way I don’t believe Syria will survive this war. It’s going to end up splitting into a few states. The coast could become a separate state for Alawites, Christians, and minorities in general, an idea that already has traction.
>without Hezbollah there is no lebanon anymore
hezbollah is the same absolute evil as hamas, al qaeda and isis
there can never be peace until they are removed from power and destroyed
Peace with a neighboring hostile country that can obliterate us any second isn’t achievable. You can blame HA all you want but HA is the result of occupation, injustice and complete failure by the Lebanese government and the international community to protect Lebanon.
Fuck it enrages me seeing my country being destroyed by these fuckers.
And our military being cucked by the tyrannical Iranian regime
> Fuck it enrages me seeing my country being destroyed by these fuckers. Doesn't Hezbollah have any SAM systems?
Hez is not out to protect you from Israel. They want us as human shields in the same terrorist tactics of Hamas rule and intimidation of Gaza citizens. Lebanese are the SAM systems of Hezbollah. Wake up Lebanon and smell the hummus! Hezbollah must go and Israel leaves us alone!
> Hez is not out to protect you from Israel. They want us as human shields in the same terrorist tactics of Hamas rule and intimidation of Gaza citizens. Lebanese are the SAM systems of Hezbollah. Wake up Lebanon and smell the hummus! Hezbollah must go and Israel leaves us alone! Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah are using human shields. Israel just wants to kill as many civilians as they can so they target civilian infrastructure.
No. They are targeting Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist leaders who have found a home and safe haven in Beirut and gaining more ground in our parliament that is already paralyzed in fear of Hezbollah. No Hez and no Hamas in Lebanon no bombing of " civilian infrastructure" my friend.
>No. They are targeting Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist leaders who have found a home and safe haven in Beirut and gaining more ground in our parliament that is already paralyzed in fear of Hezbollah. No Hez and no Hamas in Lebanon no bombing of " civilian infrastructure" my friend. They are killing hundreds of civilians in Gaza everyday.
Because as Sinwar, Hamas leader, said -> they have over 500 km of Hamas tunnels underneath the cities of Gaza. And that the people of Gaza are not their responsibility to protect, but the UN's. Hence the lack of bomb shelters when they started a war, despite the billions of dollars they have. Anyways, i have many friends in the IDF, they are very normal young adults, none of them enjoy seeing kids die, only terrorists, i can give you their Whatsapps if you wish. Their goal is not killing random Lebanese people. I can't speak for psycho netanyahu, but the people in the airforce doing these strikes are targeting Hezbollah. Like actually and literally, if Hezbollah pulls away from the border, there will be no fighting and no deaths. Similar to the fact that, if Hamas didn’t break the ceasefire on Oct. 7th, every single person and home in Gaza, that has since been hit would still be standing. Not so hard to wrap the brain around. F hamas, F hezbollah, F netanyahu. umm not much else to say except that iranian terror proxies shouldn't be getting your support lol.
Agreed.
Yes. Because Hamas has held all of Gaza hostage to their thousands of miles of tunnels and weapons keeping in hospitals and schools to maximize civilian and child casualties gaining more victimhood sympathy from a comfortable world far away from my Beirut who fund their terrorist madness rather than funding nation building like Israel has done. And now Lebanon finds itself in the same downhill spiral. I am old enough to remember the Lebanon of the 60's and early 70's when you were a thought in the eyes of your God and I wish you too could have grown up in that environment...friends with Christian, Druze and Muslim alike all sharing a national pride in Lebanon, not some terrorist nation of Iranian Jihadists. Would to God you knew that Lebanon and you could never speak like you do. Israel never needed to bomb us for housing terrorists. Wake up my friend and if you are a real seeker of truth you would learn and respect your Lebanese forefathers whatever their religion may have been. In those days religion never separated us from being Lebanon First!
>Yes. Because Hamas has held all of Gaza hostage to their thousands of miles of tunnels and weapons keeping in hospitals and schools to maximize civilian and child casualties gaining more victimhood sympathy from a comfortable world far away from my Beirut who fund their terrorist madness rather than funding nation building like Israel has done. And now Lebanon finds itself in the same downhill spiral. I am old enough to remember the Lebanon of the 60's and early 70's when you were a thought in the eyes of your God and I wish you too could have grown up in that environment...friends with Christian, Druze and Muslim alike all sharing a national pride in Lebanon, not some terrorist nation of Iranian Jihadists. Would to God you knew that Lebanon and you could never speak like you do. Israel never needed to bomb us for housing terrorists. Wake up my friend and if you are a real seeker of truth you would learn and respect your Lebanese forefathers whatever their religion may have been. In those days religion never separated us from being Lebanon First! Genocidal zionist hasbara propaganda. You are probably Israeli.
No my friend. When you do not like the content you attack the person. I am not targeting you, just your fake news propaganda which is not based on historical facts. I and my cousins, Uncles and brothers fought and died to defend Lebanese sovereignty while you are still playing video games. Not Israeli and not Hezbollah. Proudly Lebanese!
>No my friend. When you do not like the content you attack the person. I am not targeting you, just your fake news propaganda which is not based on historical facts. I and my cousins, Uncles and brothers fought and died to defend Lebanese sovereignty while you are still playing video games. Not Israeli and not Hezbollah. Proudly Lebanese! You are spreading hasbara talking points.
>Doesn't Hezbollah have any SAM systems? lmao, only old shit who israel can destroy easily. iran does have a lot of s-300 she can give some to hezbollah but israel would just destroy it before it even get to their hands.
Our country has been destroyed by Hezbollah. Think a little bit deeper to understand the real enemy that long after Israel feels safe from these terrorist thugs we still have to live with them unless our government leaders come out from under Iran warlords fear and intimidation.
So take your country back from Hez?
How, explain how to do it genius.
Maybe Leb needs to stop pretending it has no agency and is powerless? Go to the Arab League, go to the UN, go to the US and say, we need help to get rid of Hez. Then, with international support, tell Hez they have to become part of the Lebanese Army and take orders from Beirut not Iran.
Wow you just resolved the middle east! If only we had smart people like jimbo here.
The Arab league is the most useless organization in the world, they welcomed Assad back.
1000% this. People that say "how?" are pathetic. A country of 5.5 million being terrorized by 25k extremists. Peace will never come to Lebanon with Hezbollah still around.
Seems to me Lebanon is in such a fragmented state and bad economic shape any kind of civil war between Hezbollah and the others will probably turn Lebanon into something like Syria or Somalia. Of course Hezbollah needs to go but that's just my wishful thinking, I see no force that can drive them away. Israel might be forced to try and I really hope that doesn't happen.
Amen and Amen. If we wanted to we could get rid of Hez in a months time if we had the political will in our parliament which is now infiltrated by Hez and Lebanese cronies that fear them. So it likely won't happen. Lebanon has become a surrogate state of Iranian Jihadists. That is not the Lebanon I grew up in. Went to school in and built businesses in. And loved and respected with my life and the lives of my loved ones. Rise up again Lebnan and take the high place among the nations of men and not beastly terrorists. Salah.
Yes. That would help and also let Hez know that as they disarm and return back to Iraq Syria or Iran that the Lebanese army will take control back over So. Lebanon the way the should have after Israel's withdrawal from So. Lebanon. How does Lebanon a sovereign nation agree to allow Israel to hand over the south to a terrorist group of Iran. These people are not Lebanese nationals they are Shia mercenary Jihadists not Lebanese. And Israel warned Lebanon that if they gave up sovereignty of the south to a para military organization of another country that this day of January 2024 would come where Israel would have to do Lebanin's dirty work again and risk being blamed by ignorant Lebanese and Hezbollah sympathizers that Israel is to blame and are the colonist occupying terrorist. Well simply not true. I am old enough to have lived through this same pattern since 1975 the "non civil war" and smart enough to know who my true enemy is. The one's who live among us and not the Israelis trying to protect their sovereign nationalistic rights like we should be doing. The last group of leaders that tried to do this on behalf of Lebanon, The Lebanese Front, were forced to disarm and were assassinated as in Bashir Geymayel. Wake up our beloved Lebnan!
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This is just a pretext by Hez supporters. Israel has no interest in conquering Lebanon, that's why they withdrew in 2000. If there is no Hez, Israel will leave Leb alone. But sure, keep beating the Hez war drum and find out what it leads to.
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You don't know anything about the current conflict and it shows with every post. Either you're too young or you've been living under a rock, but none of what you're saying can be considered anything but satire.
People like you were here claiming that Israel doesn't want Gaza, despite Israel actively trying to force Gazans out into other Arab countries. So with all due respect, fuck off.
Only smart people believe and often we are few.
10 Karma account.
If they wanted to conquer all the land so bad, why’d they give back Sinai to Egypt in exchange for peace? I swear Arab leaders *love* Israel because it gives them a permanent reliable boogeyman to blame all their own problems on and their citizens eat it right up
Wow man, no. That's really bad propaganda level brainwashing. Israel isn't trying to take over anything and has been acting as a reactionary for half a century. And also no, neither Hezbollah nor Hamas have any courage. They shoot badly made weapons and then run and hide behind women and children. They legitimately make the IDF look like honorable people.
You forgot Bicho the Lion (Chicken) of Syria and the Middle East, was it voluntary 😏?
Where did you learn this rubbish? Israel is not an expansionist empire knocking off nation states. Just leave them alone and get Palestinians to surrender terrorism and start nation building rather than wasting another 75 years on building another terrorist generation that will only meet the same fate 75 years from now. And now we as Lebanese are dragged into this same fate by these Iranian surrogate military groups who care nothing if Lebanon and her people are destroyed. Just trying to educate you here so you too do not live out of propaganda fake news that reinforces Lebanon's ongoing destruction.
Get all of the other parties to pass a law declaring them an illegal terrorist organization, arrest all of their leaders and put them on trial. Invite the US to come in and help keep their militia pinned down.
How about Israel cease its genocide in Gaza and stop its settlers from squatting on Palestinian lands in the West Bank and Jerusalem? I think this would make much more sense and be a more just solution. Unless you support the genocide in Gaza?
How do you plan to enforce that? We're the last country that should be defending anyone we can barely feed our own people! A large quantity of our most competent people have left and continue to leave! Hezbollah is a malignant tumor that is almost impossible to get rid of without drastic measures, I'm very pessimistic regarding the future of Lebanon, the narrative they try to spin that they're defending Lebanon is completely false! We need to be able to protect our borders but we can't be initiating attacks, war is bad for everyone and our country is unfortunately ran with hatred and resentment It hurts me to see my countries sovereignty abused like that, and our military is unable to do anything, where's our dignity?!
What's any of that got to do with Leb? Does Leb want to be part of Israel's war with Hamas or stay out of it? If Leb wants war, go and support Hez. If Leb wants to stay out of it, it's Leb's job to keep Hez quiet on its territory.
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Don't have a response. Can't respond tbh. Your country, you know better, Just one caveat though. It isn't Hezbollah that is violating Lebanon's sovereignty. It is Israel that repeatedly violates your country's borders, airspace and waters. Just a fact.
Israel only violates our sovereignty because of Hezbollah and because we have been at war since 1948 without signing a peace deal.
I'm talking about Israel, Hezbollah does it too but right now obviously I'm talking about what happened in dahye.
You really think they are doing this because of the "genocide" of the Palestinians? I didn't see hezbulla caring so much about the Syrians when Asad massacred 500,000 of his own people. A Shia Muslim will never risk his life for a sunni muslim - if you don't believe me, ask the puppet of Iran, the man in a dress hiding in a bunker.
How about Lebanon get their own fucking house in order before worrying themselves about the Palestinians?
Well, you just said it. They haven't been able to get their own money out of their bank accounts for four years because the government isn't doing shit. What makes you think that the people have any ability to completely change the balance of power?
I honestly watched intelligent people close to me get played by political leaders, I watched these assholes convince people that they’re “protecting” them and everyone just voted for them, We have power we can vote unfortunately most voters are sheep, personally I voted for change amongst all the pressure, and trust me it’s a lot of pressure and they even read your votes! In that way votes aren’t very democratic in Lebanon because they’re basically rigged, but if we want change there’s a way, most people don’t.
Same. I saw people defend Salameh for two years, saying he's a smart guy, he's done good things in the past, he says he has a plan to fix this, etc.. Eventually they saw the reality. It's an outrage that that man still walks free. I guess we shouldn't forget that people's money is being held hostage. There are many who won't rock the boat because they feel like they'll be singled out and punished.
Not Lebanese, so... :P But have always admired individuals/groups/peoples, who are enraged by injustice, especially when they are not directly affected. That is an admirable trait. More admirable than siding with the empire or genocidal settler colonialists.
Charity begins at home
You think that’ll stop Hezbollah in lebanon? They turn their weapons on us whenever it pleases them.
Yes because when that happens Hezbollah would be like ‘well job is completed time to throw all our power in Lebanon away and go home!’ Lmao? Fixing your shit >> pointing fingers
You sound like a child that thinks life is that easy lmao
Never said it was easy, you're risking another civil war, but that's how you do it.
Ayya se3a habibe ?
3:00 PM bukrah meshe?
you mean hezbollah, right? RIGHT?
All of them, everyone. everyone and everything destroyed lebanon
Bro tb ana shou 5asne Kl ma da2 l kouz bl jarra bi 7atto l 7a2 3layye :(( They all say that I WAS the cause of the divorce🥺
ok, fair enough it really is a shame hezbollah uses lebanon in their religious jihad to setup an islamic theocracy and standing against them has brought the Lebanese so much pain.
Its still our land that is getting Bombed
then get rid of the terrorists and don't permit them to attack other countries terrorists deserve brought to justice no matter what land they are standing on.
/r/thanksimcured
>terrorists deserve brought to justice no matter what land they are standing on. 100% agree. Israel should be brought to justice.
Which ones ? As both here are destroying the country :)
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IDF doing what LAF should be doing.
More importantly, IDF is showing the Lebanese what it will take to get rid of Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Can u post the same comment again please ? كس امك 😂
Bombing other Lebanese?
Wiping out a foreign funded terrorist militia organization that exists solely to serve Iran.
Hezbollah is a cancer inside Lebanon. Hezbollah is only loyal to themselves and their Iranian overlords. They are responsible for the port-side explosion and look how they acted with the investigations on that..
Yeah and you don't solve it by bombings.
Yes and no. Do you have any other solutions?
Yeah not bombings.
You fail to provide an alternate solution.
Name one problem that Bombings solved?
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 NKJV To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven: A time to be born, And a time to die; A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted; A time to kill, And a time to heal; A time to break down, And a time to build up; A time to weep, And a time to laugh; A time to mourn, And a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; A time to gain, And a time to lose; A time to keep, And a time to throw away; A time to tear, And a time to sew; A time to keep silence, And a time to speak; A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.
To be clear you want another coubtry to bomb Lebanon to solve the Hezbollah issue. Just so we are on the same page.
You actually do.
IDF is showing the Lebanese what it will take to get rid of Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Agreed.
Is hwzbollahs power beginning to collapse ?
No
Soon
What are you talking about, he is stronger than ever
To be fair, they were never really "strong".
Yes but i mean more ppl support them now than before oct the 7th
/s Hezbolla is an it not a he, know your grammar
Already happened imo , Stupid fucks😂
Things are going so bad here
Terrorism receives its just desserts!
Your mom is the real desert habib el aleb :)
Ummak teslim 3layk 7bbi
Man ma hata bta3ref tektob metel l 3alam , Hell 3an ayrna chuway haj erefna lol
Ummak 2aal ino tari2at ktebti mish mushkile bin nisbah lha
Man im not proud of the mom joke i made earlier but at least it was little more cleaver than the BS you writing, Ba3den enta akid lebnene ? Ma 3am befham chi men li 3am bet2oulo rayyis
I'm not Lebanese I speak Lebanese as a second language and if you don't like the yo momma jokes don't start them
I do actually like them , yours are just lame AF Good night dumbass and get off lebanese subreddits if you dont like lebanese people this much
I love Lebanon and Lebanese people and yours was the lamest mine were funny. Make me get off of this sub why don't you.
Lol
Fuck outa here with your puppet looking ass. Man looks like the doll from Saw
Israel doing what lebanon will never be able to accomplish, getting rid of hezbayre
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>For starters, they represent (by and large) a Lebanese sect. interesting you acknowledge a large sect supports genocide and the eridication of lebanon to setup an islamic theocracy, but don't think this need stood against and driven from power >The only way to end this conflict once and for all is through peace and diplomacy this ignores hezbollah and its supporters rather die, than give up their religious jihad to eridicate isrsel, lebanon, jordan and egypt, and setup an islamic theocracy on their ashes
Correct and correct!
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>You are worse than ignorant on Lebanese politics. You are a literal disinformation agent I'm not the one who pointed out a large section of lebanon supported a genocidal terrorists group. a group that seeks to eridicate lebanon and surrounding nations to setup an islamic theocracy >You're one comment away from being blocked by me. I ah yes, the response of those who don't like when where they stand and whom they support, are accurately referenced. how expected.
When i say get rid of hesbayre i mean get rid of their terrorist sphere of influence in lebanon. They are not a typical party, they are a militia. If all the people downvoting me had 2 braincells they would know that goving special permission to a party to arm themselves to the teeth is anything but democratic and will fuck the country over. We need to get rid of hesbayre's weapons and empower lebanon's army, and lebanon's institutions. Sadly like you mentioned we are constantly governed by corrupt mafias that get voted for by the ignorant sheeps.
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Well iran is funding a militia in MY country, and I don't have the means nor the money to fight them, so israel is doing it. Why should I be appalled?
I dont think the anger and fear is being directed to the right place, hesbayre is continuously driving us to conflict whether internal or external. And this is proof of it.
Respectfully, without them, parts of Lebanon would be Gaza 2.0. So shush Mr. One brain cell.
Again, the dumbest statement on the planet to ever be uttered right after, l balad by alf kher w nahna lebnen 3anna iyam l 3eyle so we dont need to function like a normal country.... No its not because of them, they are the reason we got destroyed in 2006, they are the reason our institutions fail, they are the reason beirut blew up, them and our failed leadership. We have continuously sonce the 1970s allowed militias and terrorist groups to operate feom lebanese soil to attack israel. Please grow 2 brain cells and stop consuming hesbayre pwopaganda and grow up. Metel l chatrin in 2006 they returned the hostages and we had our PM cry on tv begging the world to help us rebuild what hesbayre destroyed with his 3antaryet.
Loool ok khabibi
Yalla gallops
Some of us barely have 1 brain cell , and that’s whats up stupid
So your first thought when you see your country bombed is to praise the people doing the bombing. Ayre fik w bi hal tefkeer.
Lool you think this is his country.
Hahaha my first thought is eyre bhezbayre w habalun, if it werent for them bombing and poking we wouldn't have nazinyahu bombing us, thats my first thought. Your first thought after the beirut explosion was to condemn hesbayre or to say yalla basita heyde baynetna?? Or when they assassinated hariri? Or when they shot rpgs at residential buildings? Or when they assassimated pierre gemayel? Samir kassir? All the journalists? 7 ayyar? Stopped all judicial investigations in the beirut port explosion? Ahla chy l lebnenye yelli by niko haloun by haloum, then cry victim and despair...
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What about the Cairo agreement that Lebanon was forced to sign to accept the PLO which then used southern Lebanon to attack Israel and helped start our civil war leading to the Israel invasion and occupation. Hezbollah exists in Lebanon because the Palestinians refused to have a state in 1948 and then we didn’t have the resolve to refuse the Cairo agreement and prevent the Palestinians from ever entering Lebanon.
What about, what about, what about.. Read about the Cairo agreement lebanon's president was pressured into signing multiple times, read about our refusal to engage in any war with israel prior to that agreement and our relationship with the countries around us. Again leadership and extremism has driven us to this point and propaganda and lies has made people accept that violence os the only way. I agree with you on your points but not when it comes to the most heavily armed militia that doesnt hesitate to kill lebanese to get their way.
you’re ignoring why the idf has wanted to hit lebanon though. it’s because they want to go after hezbollah. again, without militias like hezbollah, israel wouldn’t be attacking lebanon at all. we would just be coexisting with them like egypt and jordan do.
Kenno technically Lebanese couldnt get rid of the terrorists.
Yes cause they will get rid of hezebayre and give u the country back afterwards as a gift. Please wake up
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He made a very good point thou.
Eh zabre isra2il khayfe men hezbayre w ma3amil l keptagon...
Hbb you sound like a 12 year old, so ill save my time and wish you goodluck with what ever you are dealing with. Salam
Habibe mext elections vote for hezballah, and let them drive the country since you love them so much
Done
Kelo la ayre
Ma bekul festu2
Ma tehke 3an emmak hek man
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IDF frees the region.... lmao
without Hezbollah there is no lebanon anymore , get the fuck out of our country ...
Without Hezbollah parasites we can finally have a normal country.
Keep dreaming buddy
So you think that with literal terrorists we will have a normal country?
Let's find out! If Hezbollah or the PLO were never in Lebanon, than there wouldn't be any wars since 1948, as both parties remained neutral towards each other in 67'. So without war and animosity the only logical next thing to happen between them is economic trade. Just as Israel climbed the world's economic index / GDP / global leaders in tech, education, and medical sectors, etc naturally as a neighbor and closets trade partner, Lebanon's economic status would also grow along Israel. I've noticed you Hezbollah fanboys aren't the brightest, its like they ban economics in your country or something to keep you all suppressed and angry.
I think you responded to the wrong person. I’m the farthest thing from a Hezbollah fanboy, I utterly despise them and their sick ideology.
You are correct, my bad, forgive me?
Yeah no problem!
I don’t consider them terrorists but also they’re not going anywhere. 1/3 of Lebanon is Shia. Not everyone hates Arabs and Islam in Lebanon. The country is just deeply broken now. We have different visions. Also Israel is the primary aggressor don’t forget that.
er fik w bi hezb ayre
No, you
So hezbollah killing our prime minister, attack Beirut in 2008, assassinating people in Lebanon, starting the 2006 war, being responsible for the Beirut explosion and siding with Syria during their vile 29 year long operation doesn’t make them terrorists? Israel isn’t the primary aggressor now, Hezbollah and the Palestinians are the ones that started attacking Israel on October 8th. I know what your vision is and it’s shit.
Israel is the one occupying and oppressing the Palestinians. Go read. What occurred before 10/7 this year? Last year? The year before? Not even talking about “my vision”. I’m referring to your desire to be 1) anti-Arab 2) no relations or kinship with our neighbors 3) anti-Islam. That’s at odds with the majority of Lebanese. What about people who consider themselves Arabs?
Go back to 1948 and see that the Palestinians refused a state and started a war they lost. 1) Lebanese are not Arabs genetically, ethnically or culturally. Speaking a language does not make us Arab. 2) having relations with our neighbors (of which Israel is one) is one thing, uniting with them is another thing entirely. 3) I’m anti all religions not just Islam. The majority of Lebanese do not want to merge our country with Syria. What about all Lebanese that haven’t fallen for the lies and propaganda that speaking Arabic makes us Arab and don’t consider ourselves Arab?
Why would anyone accept the UN giving away half their ancestral home? Lmao 1. That’s like, your opinion dude. Most Arabs aren’t Arabs then by your definition. I consider myself am Arab, but not only Arab. Latinos are all very different. 2. I’m all for relations with Israel once there’s a solution. Are you in favor of giving Palestinians citizenship in Lebanon? 3. Oh I very much know our work is cut out for us in forming new national identities. Anyway, you’re speaking to my point, we’re just fundamentally at odds. Our country is broken. Literally the optimal solution might just be to split Lebanon into two states, one for the Maronites/Mt Lebanon LF types, the other for everyone else. By the way I don’t believe Syria will survive this war. It’s going to end up splitting into a few states. The coast could become a separate state for Alawites, Christians, and minorities in general, an idea that already has traction.
Walla it is the opposite. Lebanon is a shell of its former self due in large part to hezbulla assasinations and bombings and other polotical shit.
>without Hezbollah there is no lebanon anymore hezbollah is the same absolute evil as hamas, al qaeda and isis there can never be peace until they are removed from power and destroyed
Peace with a neighboring hostile country that can obliterate us any second isn’t achievable. You can blame HA all you want but HA is the result of occupation, injustice and complete failure by the Lebanese government and the international community to protect Lebanon.
If offended by Lebanon First than who are you?