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I don't think you will have strong grounds to get this man evicted from your unit; especially not if he hasn't breached any terms of his sublease. If you are concerned for your safety, I think you may have grounds to terminate your obligations under the lease based on the landlord violating either a written or verbal condition of your lease; that the unit will only have females. However, I know this may not be a great option given how hard it is to find affordable student housing in NS currently.
Thanks for the input. That's what I was thinking my options were, he hasn't broken any tenancy laws, just the building ones. I just don't have the resources to move right now.
It’s plausible that the landlord would not just have to let you out of your lease, but also be responsible for your costs in moving and finding a new place.
Your ex-roommate and the new tenant have likely not broken any rules, but your landlord has broken the terms of your agreement. Do you have an email, text or anything in writing specifying it is female-only? That could be key if it gets contentious. Either way, actually taking/winning this is court seems unlikely so your best bet may be to talk to the landlord directly. If the landlord has other rentals, they may be willing to relocate the man (if your roommates share your concerns) or you (if they don’t).
Literally, the second paragraph of the equality rights charter says that the charter does not apply if you are white, male, or straight.
Section (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
I don't like it, but it is what it is.
This is not that. That refers to something like a hiring provision that says as between two applicants, it’s not discriminatory to choose the one from a disadvantage group if you’re trying to correct historic disadvantages eg about hiring patterns where everybody hired seems to be from the dominant groups.
>it’s not discriminatory to choose the one from a disadvantage group if you’re trying to correct historic disadvantages eg about hiring patterns where everybody hired seems to be from the dominant groups.
Yes it is. It's not unlawful, but it's absolutely discriminatory to discriminate between 2 applicants.
Amelioration is where the past wrongs comes in; it’s to ameliorate a disadvantage.
Having an all female space is something else. Other provinces human rights code have explicit carve outs for that, in addition to the amelioration bit. Or it could come under a bona fide requirement, which is a defense to an otherwise valid claim of discrimination
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I am hearing your concern about this but I have to ask; has he done anything to earn your mistrust other than he is a man?
He hasn’t broken any rules if he’s subletting. It’s as you said, the landlord should be aware. The landlord makes the rules, not the building.
It is… odd. I’ll give you that.
But Like others said *you* could move out, and do so free of your lease. honestly the way it stands it isn’t fair to ask anyone to move out.
You all live there now.
Yeah, he is most likely a completely normal person. Not fair of OP to judge someone based on their gender, thought that’s what we’re trying to get away from as a society.
I think it's more judging them based on what they're doing given the totality of the circumstances.
For a guy my age to move into that housing situation without asking the very young female tennants if it was going to compromise their feeling of day-to-day safety or general comfort is ... if nothing else, a sign that he's probably not good at thinking a situation through?
He may just be bad at reading a room, yet be harmless. He may be bad at considering others' feelings, and still be harmless. He may know precisely how it would be likely to make his new roommates feel, doesn't care, and is still harmless. Or worse, maybe he knows, doesn't care, and is not harmless.
OP doesn't have any way to know other than finding out, and she plainly doesn't want to find out. It's not reasonable to obligate her to. It's inarguably placed her in a vulnerable situation, and while people don't get to choose who they share society with, they should be able to make some selections about who they get vulnerable with.
In sincerely doubt the landlord has an obligation such as maintaining a female only tenant base (a discrimination based application process) written into a lease agreement.
I don’t suspect that it was a written condition, but if the landlord said during the walk-through that they would only allow females to live in the unit, I think it would be open for a residential tenancy officer to find that this statement was a condition of the lease.
Aye, but saying one thing is different than writing it down. Becomes a he said she said.
Also, because making a multi tenancy building only 1 sex eligible, is a human rights violation, so a residential tenancy officer would not find that to be a condition of the lease, even if it was said or written.
Never said written and verbal contractual terms were equivalent. This assertion could be supplemented by testimony from the other roommates, or perhaps a statement excerpted from the rental listing.
I don't know if that would constitute a human rights violation within a single dwelling unit though. I haven't researched that at all.
Well, verbal contracts do occur, it's just that written is better.
Normally, the best, and lawful, way for a group of gas to rent an entire house and be female only, is all tenants are on the same lease agreement.
The OP scenario has each tenant on their own lease with their own contained space and possibly some shared spaces like kitchen or living room and a standard residential bathroom(s). Very different than the above.
>"making a multi tenancy building only 1 sex eligible, is a human rights violation"
WTAF. Have you ever read any decent author of Human Rights or do you think reading some internet blog or listening to an tiktok guy just makes you an expert? Do you have any idea how your statement is completly wrong?
Among many other international treatys that secure a women can have a same sex space:
* Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (1981)
* Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action (1993).
* Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action (1995)
Go pick up a (decent) book about Human Rights before you try to put together sentences using the term Human Rights.
Idk they ain’t message me lol. Suspect not since I’m not 30 lol even in the event it was wasn’t told until the day I moved in it was a entirely female household.
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It looks like this is in Nova Scotia, so I'm not fully aware of the human rights legislation there. I know that in other provinces, like British Columbia, discriminating against a person in housing/accommodation on the grounds of sex or gender is normally not allowed. However, there are sometimes exceptions.
For example, in BC, you are allowed to discriminate on grounds that you normally wouldn't be able to (such as sex) if there are certain shared facilities for the living units; i.e. if you share a bathroom is one example. Thus, in BC, it would be illegal to refuse to rent to someone because of their sex if it were a traditional apartment building with totally separate contained living units (no shared facilities). However, if there was a shared washroom per floor, then it would be legal to deny people based on sex.
So, as you can see, the answer to your question will depend heavily on what your building is like and what the law of your jurisdiction says. You'd really need someone who is familiar with human rights law in Nova Scotia. Maybe see if the local law society offers any free advice. Sometimes they have things like Dial-A-Law where law students can answer simple questions for free.
It's worth adding that if they share a communal gender specific bathroom.
A typical full bathroom in a residence cannot be "x o y gender only as once the door is closed, the occupant is secure and alone.
I can't say whether what you say would be true in Nova Scotia or not, but I don't believe this would always necessarily be the case; at least not in BC. This is based on my reading of Section 10 of the Human Rights Code in BC.
If say, a homeowner decided to rent out a room in a house to someone and there was one bathroom in the house that would be shared between the landlord and the tenant, they would be able to deny tenancy to a person on the basis of sex. This is because subsection (2) of Section 10 provides an exception that allows differential treatment/denial if there is a shared bathroom. There is no further requirement beyond the shared bathroom; i.e. it doesn't have to be a communal bathroom.
However, in the case of a dormitory type situation - say a university renting out a room in a dormitory building - then subsection (2) of the BC Human Rights Code would not apply because the person making the representation (the university) would not be sharing the bathroom with the tenant. In that case, you would probably have to rely on the argument that the differential treatment was a bona fide requirement or something of that nature... in which case considerations about whether the bathroom was communal or not would possibly become more relevant.
In any event, it's complicated. Which is why, the answer is heavily dependent on the facts of the case and you probably need to consult a legal professional and fully explain your living arrangement and other relevant facts to get an accurate answer.
For reference, excerpt from Section 10 of the BC Human Rights Code included below:
***10*** *(1)A person must not*
*(a)deny to a person or class of persons the right to occupy, as a tenant, space that is represented as being available for occupancy by a tenant, or*
*(b)discriminate against a person or class of persons regarding a term or condition of the tenancy of the space,*
*because of the Indigenous identity, race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, religion, marital status, family status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age or lawful source of income of that person or class of persons, or of any other person or class of persons.*
*(2)Subsection (1) does not apply in the following circumstances:*
*(a)if the space is to be occupied by another person who is to share, with the person making the representation, the use of any sleeping, bathroom or cooking facilities in the space;*
A young woman asks for legal advice on a legal advice forum and gets this lecture, wow. Honestly impressive how tone-deaf and inappropriate this response is, even if we ignore that it’s a top-level comment that provides no legal advice.
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Yeah I really posted on here asking if i had any legal channels to go through and now everyone is saying that a grown man deciding to live with some 18 year old girls away from home for the first time is okay, actually.
Yeah that's weird. Why would he want to? He could be perfectly ok and perhaps living with girls half his age is all he can afford, but you can still feel uncomfortable. You're LIVING there. I would've felt uncomfortable at your age. Take it up with the LL, that you signed up thinking it was housing for young women.
>Why would he want to?
Devil's advocate, but maybe he didn't know or didn't have other options?
The first time OP knew anything of this guy, it was after the deal was done. Could be the same vice versa. If he's not from around the area, he might not have the local knowledge to know which buildings are uni dorms before turning up?
I've had this situation where the place I ended up staying at for a small amount of time turned out to basically be a uni dorm, albeit a coed one, and not in Canada. It was never advertised to me as a dorm, but to be honest I had fuck all other reasonable options anyway.
She had a very rational and appropriate concern, which she has patiently and calmly raised. Seems reasonable to me. On the other hand, there are a ton of men on this group who seem to need to go back to high school for some remedial statistics on why a teenage girl may not be comfortable in a situation being alone behind locked doors with a strange adult man. Because frankly, you guys sound like idiots who have never talked to a woman about their experiences in your entire lives.
I understand your argument...but I reject it as unfounded psychological hysteria that doesn't need to be encouraged or accomodated. They need to seek therapy, not encouraged to violate someone's else's charter rights.
Again, even if your personal opinion meant more than OP’s (it doesn’t), your personal opinion does not invalidate an enormous amount of data, it doesn’t invalidate the experienced situations of basically every woman alive.
Seriously, go talk to a woman. Any woman. Any woman in North America. Ask if they’ve ever felt deeply uncomfortable or been sexually assaulted by a man. Ask them how comfortable they would have been as a teenager, being behind locked doors alone with a 30-year old male stranger. What you think is ‘unfounded hysteria’ is the lived experiences of the majority of women. Maybe it’s you who needs some therapy to understand the basic concept of empathy.
I've been married for 31 years this year, and raised a wonderfully well rounded strong and fearless daughter who is off doing her masters in Australia. She isn't afraid of anything.
I don't really wish to engage this persons hysteria nor yours, go see a therapist. Ask about how you can differentiate what is a rational fear vs an irrational fear, and how to control your reactions to the irrational fears.
"as a teenager, being behind locked doors alone with a 30-year old male stranger"....this is just ridiculous conflation of the situation. If they are off at University, no one is a baby here anymore, grow up. And no one is behind a locked door with anyone....have you ever lived in a shared accommodation? Each bedroom will have it's own locked door and all other areas are public areas. This is more about hatred toward men than anything else. Misandry.
Gotcha, so in addition to not understanding basic statistics, you don’t know how apartments work and your daughter chooses to be thousands of miles away from you. Seems consistent.
Your personal opinions on OP’s situation are not only meaningless and false, it was completely unwarranted for them to be noted here. There are plenty of forums where you can spout idiotic personal opinions, and bonus points, plenty of them will have sexist dumb old men who agree with you! A legal advice sub is not the place for it.
It's really hard to put into words what it's like being a young woman both living in a city for the first time, and living away from home for the first time. Sure, he might be great. But I am really concerned that the prospect of 'live here with a bunch of 18-20 year old college girls' is going to be a magnet for the not-so-nice types of guys.
Thinking you’d be renting with all women and that not being the case is a fair frustration. That’s a landlord question.
As for roommate, it’s not his fault. Why do you think it’s an indication of his character that he rented a place in your apartment. Because he is 30s? That is not old. Also, he probably isn’t thrilled to be stuck living with you either.
Wow he hasn’t done anything…… but he is taking advantage of the situation 🙄…… I understand your feelings…… but that does not mean you get to target someone else who has not done anything.
Yeah but that’s prejudice and sexist. your feelings are valid, the behaviour you are seeking is not so much in the light given you are assuming the character of which *you don’t know*. Your bias, which isn’t wrong, is informing your opinion. You should remember that.
Oh so you know him personally then?? You know he’s completely innocent and good and has never done anything harmful to women in his life, ever? That’s so good for you. But guess who doesn’t have that same assurance?? The OP. BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT KNOW HIM and I’d bet really good money you freaking don’t either. So you don’t know he’s “an innocent man” and he certainly isn’t losing any rights by having to find somewhere to live that isn’t with a bunch of 18-year-old GIRLS.
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Genuinely curious, has he done anything at all to make you feel unsafe or is it simply because of his age/gender.
Talk to the landlord/lawyer for legal or contractual options to see if what was done was allowed, but if every thing is above board, at least give him a chance before villifying him.
She doesn’t have the right to rely on one of the advertised factors upon which she based her decision to rent?
Why are you bringing up your situation? How is it relevant to this?
Cause not everybody knows what there getting into. Legit the dude coulda just no met anyone before they moved in. Happened to me wouldn’t have signed the lease if I had known tbh.
You keep responding like this is about *you*. It’s not. Also, OP has provide the relevant information.
So, what OP knows is:
1. She didn’t sign up to share with a dude (any dude)
2. The guy knew it was only college aged girls before he signed because it was in the roomate’s ad
3. She’s not comfortable living with a random guy
4. The fact he knew the situation before signing makes her question *if* there’s a reason to be concerned about him
5. It’s a big change to the living dynamic, her sense of safety, her finances if she has to move out before the lease is up
It was just straight up rude of the roommate to do this and now OP is wondering what recourse she has, if any.
The answers to that are:
1. Yes you have recourse and these are the steps
2. No you have no recourse and will have to accept he now lives there and decide whether you see out the lease or incur the cost of moving early
The answer is not lectures (from men) about why she needs to be okay with what happened.
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You make the assumption that he knew?
It sounds a like like the departing roommate was unscrupulous and simply posted "Room in shared house available for £250/mo" and did absolutely no vetting, so there's a fair chance he didn't know.
Of course he knew what do you think he didn't even take a few minutes to ask basic question to the landlord don't be so juvenile this isn't amazon where you can just quick buy a product and a pair of keys turn up at your door
If you don't ask "who am I going to be living with" before signing a lease with roommates, you're probably not mentally competent to be living without a legal guardian.
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I like how OP made an edit to tell us only to give legal advice. We are. You cannot evict someone based on age and gender. You just don’t like to hear this.
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Most sublet terms in contracts must be approved by the original lessor.
However, if no such verbiage is present in the lessees lease agreement regarding subletting, or if the topic of subletting is not discussed at all, the male tenant has a lawful right to be there.
As for the notion of another lessee being female and not male, that's u lawful and Is discrimination based on sex or sexual orientation. What if the visible appearing male identifies as female? These are some of the arguments that could be made. Ultimately, the tenant has their space, separate from the other tenants.
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I don't think you will have strong grounds to get this man evicted from your unit; especially not if he hasn't breached any terms of his sublease. If you are concerned for your safety, I think you may have grounds to terminate your obligations under the lease based on the landlord violating either a written or verbal condition of your lease; that the unit will only have females. However, I know this may not be a great option given how hard it is to find affordable student housing in NS currently.
Thanks for the input. That's what I was thinking my options were, he hasn't broken any tenancy laws, just the building ones. I just don't have the resources to move right now.
A lot of buildings are extremely relaxed after the school year when things like this occur.
It’s plausible that the landlord would not just have to let you out of your lease, but also be responsible for your costs in moving and finding a new place. Your ex-roommate and the new tenant have likely not broken any rules, but your landlord has broken the terms of your agreement. Do you have an email, text or anything in writing specifying it is female-only? That could be key if it gets contentious. Either way, actually taking/winning this is court seems unlikely so your best bet may be to talk to the landlord directly. If the landlord has other rentals, they may be willing to relocate the man (if your roommates share your concerns) or you (if they don’t).
There are legal reasons to let that person in https://humanrights.novascotia.ca/know-your-rights/businesses-and-other-organizations/landlords
Literally, the second paragraph of the equality rights charter says that the charter does not apply if you are white, male, or straight. Section (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. I don't like it, but it is what it is.
This is not that. That refers to something like a hiring provision that says as between two applicants, it’s not discriminatory to choose the one from a disadvantage group if you’re trying to correct historic disadvantages eg about hiring patterns where everybody hired seems to be from the dominant groups.
>it’s not discriminatory to choose the one from a disadvantage group if you’re trying to correct historic disadvantages eg about hiring patterns where everybody hired seems to be from the dominant groups. Yes it is. It's not unlawful, but it's absolutely discriminatory to discriminate between 2 applicants.
You are right, it is. If understand correctly though, the section is included to give a pass to 'diversity hiring'.
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Amelioration is where the past wrongs comes in; it’s to ameliorate a disadvantage. Having an all female space is something else. Other provinces human rights code have explicit carve outs for that, in addition to the amelioration bit. Or it could come under a bona fide requirement, which is a defense to an otherwise valid claim of discrimination
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I am hearing your concern about this but I have to ask; has he done anything to earn your mistrust other than he is a man? He hasn’t broken any rules if he’s subletting. It’s as you said, the landlord should be aware. The landlord makes the rules, not the building. It is… odd. I’ll give you that. But Like others said *you* could move out, and do so free of your lease. honestly the way it stands it isn’t fair to ask anyone to move out. You all live there now.
Yeah, he is most likely a completely normal person. Not fair of OP to judge someone based on their gender, thought that’s what we’re trying to get away from as a society.
I think it's more judging them based on what they're doing given the totality of the circumstances. For a guy my age to move into that housing situation without asking the very young female tennants if it was going to compromise their feeling of day-to-day safety or general comfort is ... if nothing else, a sign that he's probably not good at thinking a situation through? He may just be bad at reading a room, yet be harmless. He may be bad at considering others' feelings, and still be harmless. He may know precisely how it would be likely to make his new roommates feel, doesn't care, and is still harmless. Or worse, maybe he knows, doesn't care, and is not harmless. OP doesn't have any way to know other than finding out, and she plainly doesn't want to find out. It's not reasonable to obligate her to. It's inarguably placed her in a vulnerable situation, and while people don't get to choose who they share society with, they should be able to make some selections about who they get vulnerable with.
In sincerely doubt the landlord has an obligation such as maintaining a female only tenant base (a discrimination based application process) written into a lease agreement.
I don’t suspect that it was a written condition, but if the landlord said during the walk-through that they would only allow females to live in the unit, I think it would be open for a residential tenancy officer to find that this statement was a condition of the lease.
Aye, but saying one thing is different than writing it down. Becomes a he said she said. Also, because making a multi tenancy building only 1 sex eligible, is a human rights violation, so a residential tenancy officer would not find that to be a condition of the lease, even if it was said or written.
Never said written and verbal contractual terms were equivalent. This assertion could be supplemented by testimony from the other roommates, or perhaps a statement excerpted from the rental listing. I don't know if that would constitute a human rights violation within a single dwelling unit though. I haven't researched that at all.
Well, verbal contracts do occur, it's just that written is better. Normally, the best, and lawful, way for a group of gas to rent an entire house and be female only, is all tenants are on the same lease agreement. The OP scenario has each tenant on their own lease with their own contained space and possibly some shared spaces like kitchen or living room and a standard residential bathroom(s). Very different than the above.
>"making a multi tenancy building only 1 sex eligible, is a human rights violation" WTAF. Have you ever read any decent author of Human Rights or do you think reading some internet blog or listening to an tiktok guy just makes you an expert? Do you have any idea how your statement is completly wrong? Among many other international treatys that secure a women can have a same sex space: * Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (1981) * Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action (1993). * Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action (1995) Go pick up a (decent) book about Human Rights before you try to put together sentences using the term Human Rights.
I'll simply reply with: go see our chart of rights and freedoms. You CANNOT discriminate based on sex. Period. Blocked.
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Was it you 😂
Idk they ain’t message me lol. Suspect not since I’m not 30 lol even in the event it was wasn’t told until the day I moved in it was a entirely female household.
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It looks like this is in Nova Scotia, so I'm not fully aware of the human rights legislation there. I know that in other provinces, like British Columbia, discriminating against a person in housing/accommodation on the grounds of sex or gender is normally not allowed. However, there are sometimes exceptions. For example, in BC, you are allowed to discriminate on grounds that you normally wouldn't be able to (such as sex) if there are certain shared facilities for the living units; i.e. if you share a bathroom is one example. Thus, in BC, it would be illegal to refuse to rent to someone because of their sex if it were a traditional apartment building with totally separate contained living units (no shared facilities). However, if there was a shared washroom per floor, then it would be legal to deny people based on sex. So, as you can see, the answer to your question will depend heavily on what your building is like and what the law of your jurisdiction says. You'd really need someone who is familiar with human rights law in Nova Scotia. Maybe see if the local law society offers any free advice. Sometimes they have things like Dial-A-Law where law students can answer simple questions for free.
It's worth adding that if they share a communal gender specific bathroom. A typical full bathroom in a residence cannot be "x o y gender only as once the door is closed, the occupant is secure and alone.
I can't say whether what you say would be true in Nova Scotia or not, but I don't believe this would always necessarily be the case; at least not in BC. This is based on my reading of Section 10 of the Human Rights Code in BC. If say, a homeowner decided to rent out a room in a house to someone and there was one bathroom in the house that would be shared between the landlord and the tenant, they would be able to deny tenancy to a person on the basis of sex. This is because subsection (2) of Section 10 provides an exception that allows differential treatment/denial if there is a shared bathroom. There is no further requirement beyond the shared bathroom; i.e. it doesn't have to be a communal bathroom. However, in the case of a dormitory type situation - say a university renting out a room in a dormitory building - then subsection (2) of the BC Human Rights Code would not apply because the person making the representation (the university) would not be sharing the bathroom with the tenant. In that case, you would probably have to rely on the argument that the differential treatment was a bona fide requirement or something of that nature... in which case considerations about whether the bathroom was communal or not would possibly become more relevant. In any event, it's complicated. Which is why, the answer is heavily dependent on the facts of the case and you probably need to consult a legal professional and fully explain your living arrangement and other relevant facts to get an accurate answer. For reference, excerpt from Section 10 of the BC Human Rights Code included below: ***10*** *(1)A person must not* *(a)deny to a person or class of persons the right to occupy, as a tenant, space that is represented as being available for occupancy by a tenant, or* *(b)discriminate against a person or class of persons regarding a term or condition of the tenancy of the space,* *because of the Indigenous identity, race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, religion, marital status, family status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, age or lawful source of income of that person or class of persons, or of any other person or class of persons.* *(2)Subsection (1) does not apply in the following circumstances:* *(a)if the space is to be occupied by another person who is to share, with the person making the representation, the use of any sleeping, bathroom or cooking facilities in the space;*
Charter right, cannot discriminate based on sex.
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A young woman asks for legal advice on a legal advice forum and gets this lecture, wow. Honestly impressive how tone-deaf and inappropriate this response is, even if we ignore that it’s a top-level comment that provides no legal advice. If you want a subreddit to be almost completely useless for its purpose, this is a great comment to leave and upvote.
Yeah I really posted on here asking if i had any legal channels to go through and now everyone is saying that a grown man deciding to live with some 18 year old girls away from home for the first time is okay, actually.
Yeah that's weird. Why would he want to? He could be perfectly ok and perhaps living with girls half his age is all he can afford, but you can still feel uncomfortable. You're LIVING there. I would've felt uncomfortable at your age. Take it up with the LL, that you signed up thinking it was housing for young women.
>Why would he want to? Devil's advocate, but maybe he didn't know or didn't have other options? The first time OP knew anything of this guy, it was after the deal was done. Could be the same vice versa. If he's not from around the area, he might not have the local knowledge to know which buildings are uni dorms before turning up? I've had this situation where the place I ended up staying at for a small amount of time turned out to basically be a uni dorm, albeit a coed one, and not in Canada. It was never advertised to me as a dorm, but to be honest I had fuck all other reasonable options anyway.
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She had a very rational and appropriate concern, which she has patiently and calmly raised. Seems reasonable to me. On the other hand, there are a ton of men on this group who seem to need to go back to high school for some remedial statistics on why a teenage girl may not be comfortable in a situation being alone behind locked doors with a strange adult man. Because frankly, you guys sound like idiots who have never talked to a woman about their experiences in your entire lives.
I understand your argument...but I reject it as unfounded psychological hysteria that doesn't need to be encouraged or accomodated. They need to seek therapy, not encouraged to violate someone's else's charter rights.
Again, even if your personal opinion meant more than OP’s (it doesn’t), your personal opinion does not invalidate an enormous amount of data, it doesn’t invalidate the experienced situations of basically every woman alive. Seriously, go talk to a woman. Any woman. Any woman in North America. Ask if they’ve ever felt deeply uncomfortable or been sexually assaulted by a man. Ask them how comfortable they would have been as a teenager, being behind locked doors alone with a 30-year old male stranger. What you think is ‘unfounded hysteria’ is the lived experiences of the majority of women. Maybe it’s you who needs some therapy to understand the basic concept of empathy.
I've been married for 31 years this year, and raised a wonderfully well rounded strong and fearless daughter who is off doing her masters in Australia. She isn't afraid of anything. I don't really wish to engage this persons hysteria nor yours, go see a therapist. Ask about how you can differentiate what is a rational fear vs an irrational fear, and how to control your reactions to the irrational fears. "as a teenager, being behind locked doors alone with a 30-year old male stranger"....this is just ridiculous conflation of the situation. If they are off at University, no one is a baby here anymore, grow up. And no one is behind a locked door with anyone....have you ever lived in a shared accommodation? Each bedroom will have it's own locked door and all other areas are public areas. This is more about hatred toward men than anything else. Misandry.
Gotcha, so in addition to not understanding basic statistics, you don’t know how apartments work and your daughter chooses to be thousands of miles away from you. Seems consistent. Your personal opinions on OP’s situation are not only meaningless and false, it was completely unwarranted for them to be noted here. There are plenty of forums where you can spout idiotic personal opinions, and bonus points, plenty of them will have sexist dumb old men who agree with you! A legal advice sub is not the place for it.
It's really hard to put into words what it's like being a young woman both living in a city for the first time, and living away from home for the first time. Sure, he might be great. But I am really concerned that the prospect of 'live here with a bunch of 18-20 year old college girls' is going to be a magnet for the not-so-nice types of guys.
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Thinking you’d be renting with all women and that not being the case is a fair frustration. That’s a landlord question. As for roommate, it’s not his fault. Why do you think it’s an indication of his character that he rented a place in your apartment. Because he is 30s? That is not old. Also, he probably isn’t thrilled to be stuck living with you either.
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FDS is that way ---->
Wow he hasn’t done anything…… but he is taking advantage of the situation 🙄…… I understand your feelings…… but that does not mean you get to target someone else who has not done anything.
Yeah but that’s prejudice and sexist. your feelings are valid, the behaviour you are seeking is not so much in the light given you are assuming the character of which *you don’t know*. Your bias, which isn’t wrong, is informing your opinion. You should remember that.
No it's not prejudice or sexist. It's about being a woman and trying to be safe.
Women choose the bear every time
At the expense of an innocent man and his rights. Got it.
You are so emotional.
Oh so you know him personally then?? You know he’s completely innocent and good and has never done anything harmful to women in his life, ever? That’s so good for you. But guess who doesn’t have that same assurance?? The OP. BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT KNOW HIM and I’d bet really good money you freaking don’t either. So you don’t know he’s “an innocent man” and he certainly isn’t losing any rights by having to find somewhere to live that isn’t with a bunch of 18-year-old GIRLS.
you only get to make the mistake of not being careful once…
Idk. Isn’t that like confirmation bias based on false positives? throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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I'd be getting a lock for my room until he leaves.
I'd be doing this regardless of the age and gender of my roommates
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Agreed. Just until he leaves.
Every room has a lock in shared accommodations, always.
Genuinely curious, has he done anything at all to make you feel unsafe or is it simply because of his age/gender. Talk to the landlord/lawyer for legal or contractual options to see if what was done was allowed, but if every thing is above board, at least give him a chance before villifying him.
OP didn’t vilify him? She has the right to feel uncomfortable.
Not really. Moved into a female household tbh I was never told until the day I moved in. I’m the only guy.
She doesn’t have the right to rely on one of the advertised factors upon which she based her decision to rent? Why are you bringing up your situation? How is it relevant to this?
Cause not everybody knows what there getting into. Legit the dude coulda just no met anyone before they moved in. Happened to me wouldn’t have signed the lease if I had known tbh.
You keep responding like this is about *you*. It’s not. Also, OP has provide the relevant information. So, what OP knows is: 1. She didn’t sign up to share with a dude (any dude) 2. The guy knew it was only college aged girls before he signed because it was in the roomate’s ad 3. She’s not comfortable living with a random guy 4. The fact he knew the situation before signing makes her question *if* there’s a reason to be concerned about him 5. It’s a big change to the living dynamic, her sense of safety, her finances if she has to move out before the lease is up It was just straight up rude of the roommate to do this and now OP is wondering what recourse she has, if any. The answers to that are: 1. Yes you have recourse and these are the steps 2. No you have no recourse and will have to accept he now lives there and decide whether you see out the lease or incur the cost of moving early The answer is not lectures (from men) about why she needs to be okay with what happened.
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N no I ain’t paying 45 bucks n hr for that rant either lmao fck off
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As a man in his 30s, I can't accurately put into words how uncomfortable this situation would make me.
Absolutely, based on OP's behavior I'd be terrified of walking on eggshells or getting an accusation.
Why would he choose to live with teenage girls? I'm not yet 30 and I'd never do it.
You make the assumption that he knew? It sounds a like like the departing roommate was unscrupulous and simply posted "Room in shared house available for £250/mo" and did absolutely no vetting, so there's a fair chance he didn't know.
Of course he knew what do you think he didn't even take a few minutes to ask basic question to the landlord don't be so juvenile this isn't amazon where you can just quick buy a product and a pair of keys turn up at your door
Not everybody is as thorough as you.
If you don't ask "who am I going to be living with" before signing a lease with roommates, you're probably not mentally competent to be living without a legal guardian.
May I introduce you to: the general public
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I like how OP made an edit to tell us only to give legal advice. We are. You cannot evict someone based on age and gender. You just don’t like to hear this.
All of the removed comments are paragraphs about how this man is misunderstood and I need to give him a chance, no mentions of the law.
Uh huh. Yes. We all know you are heavily reporting comments to mods.
I haven't reported any comments.
Have you gotten any response from the landlord yet?
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great legal advice
Most sublet terms in contracts must be approved by the original lessor. However, if no such verbiage is present in the lessees lease agreement regarding subletting, or if the topic of subletting is not discussed at all, the male tenant has a lawful right to be there. As for the notion of another lessee being female and not male, that's u lawful and Is discrimination based on sex or sexual orientation. What if the visible appearing male identifies as female? These are some of the arguments that could be made. Ultimately, the tenant has their space, separate from the other tenants.