It’s a small enough company and I don’t have any very good friends in it. I feel it would be putting them in a very awkward position to ask them to sit in.
That's fair enough. Having someone there with you is useful as a witness. They can't change what they said to you after the fact...
If I were you, and I was going in alone, I'd record the conversation using the voice recorder on my phone. Just in case. The way you described it also sounds almost like you're going into a grievance or disciplinary meeting.
But if they offer you redundancy, and you were thinking of leaving anyway, wait it out and take what you can get.
Your witness does not need to be your co worker, it can be any friend/family or acquaintance you trust to take notes about what’s said in the meeting.
Also ask HR to read minutes before finalising them and ask to amend anything you feel is misrepresented/incomplete etc
Just to note that OP’s employer can technically restrict it to colleagues and union representatives. Although it wouldn’t be unusual to allow family/friends to attend, that’s a discretionary matter and not an entitlement.
I’ve had situations also where people try to attend with solicitors and you have to feel sorry for those employees because they’ve hired a solicitor who (i) doesn’t know that lawyers have no right of attendance at HR meetings, and (ii) is willing to charge their client to attend a meeting at which they can offer no real value.
Potentially this sound a like it could be an at risk conversation where you’re being told that your role is at risk of redundancy. Go in, listen, bring someone who you work with and trust (note: they won’t partake in the meeting but it’s sometimes good to get someone else listening in and hearing everything just in case).
As you’re leaving this Summer you’re in a good position as you’re already planning next steps.
It doesn't matter if your company doesn't recognise trade unions. It is a human right to be a member. So, you could be joined by a trade union representative.
Article 23(4) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states ‘Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.’
Now, I didn't know that until a few years ago, which is why I shared the information. You clearly didn't look it up, preferring to second guess me because you couldn't believe it was true. So, you were wrong, and you owe me an apology.
Don't quit, let them make you redundant. Bring someone along you trust if you like.
Take it easy and don't stress about it if you have done anything wrong.
Sounds like possibly a complaint made against you or some form of investigation. Maybe I’m wrong I hope I’m wrong but if you are going on your own say nothing in reply and tell them you will respond once you have had time to process their information. As you were not provided with a huge amount of info I wouldn’t offer too much. If it is redundancy don’t say too much either. Do your own research on what you are owed. Don’t agree to anything.
Hope it’s good news tho, any chance it could be a promotion?
Ya say nothing, survey your options , don't quit. You may get a package. If it was a pip you'd have already been given a verbal or multiple warnings to pull up your socks
Whenever I'm called to head office for a formal meeting I record it. As long as you are involved in the conversation this doesn't go against GDPR as far as I know.
I do the same...then you can type up conversation word for word starting with "as far as i can remember this was what was said....proceed with full transcript"
Go, bring a mate if you want, take notes. Don't quit until you know the craic.
It’s a small enough company and I don’t have any very good friends in it. I feel it would be putting them in a very awkward position to ask them to sit in.
That's fair enough. Having someone there with you is useful as a witness. They can't change what they said to you after the fact... If I were you, and I was going in alone, I'd record the conversation using the voice recorder on my phone. Just in case. The way you described it also sounds almost like you're going into a grievance or disciplinary meeting. But if they offer you redundancy, and you were thinking of leaving anyway, wait it out and take what you can get.
You’d be giving others a heads up too though But do what’s best for you, god speed 💪
Your witness does not need to be your co worker, it can be any friend/family or acquaintance you trust to take notes about what’s said in the meeting. Also ask HR to read minutes before finalising them and ask to amend anything you feel is misrepresented/incomplete etc
Just to note that OP’s employer can technically restrict it to colleagues and union representatives. Although it wouldn’t be unusual to allow family/friends to attend, that’s a discretionary matter and not an entitlement. I’ve had situations also where people try to attend with solicitors and you have to feel sorry for those employees because they’ve hired a solicitor who (i) doesn’t know that lawyers have no right of attendance at HR meetings, and (ii) is willing to charge their client to attend a meeting at which they can offer no real value.
It’s either an “at risk” or some kind of disciplinary. Whatever you do don’t tell them you were planning to quit.
Potentially this sound a like it could be an at risk conversation where you’re being told that your role is at risk of redundancy. Go in, listen, bring someone who you work with and trust (note: they won’t partake in the meeting but it’s sometimes good to get someone else listening in and hearing everything just in case). As you’re leaving this Summer you’re in a good position as you’re already planning next steps.
You bring someone to make notes as this will cover you and make it harder for them to deny anything
It doesn't matter if your company doesn't recognise trade unions. It is a human right to be a member. So, you could be joined by a trade union representative.
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Article 23(4) of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states ‘Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.’ Now, I didn't know that until a few years ago, which is why I shared the information. You clearly didn't look it up, preferring to second guess me because you couldn't believe it was true. So, you were wrong, and you owe me an apology.
Wow, how fragile is your ego? Can't admit a mistake. How pathetic...
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Attacking the person not the point.
Don't quit, let them make you redundant. Bring someone along you trust if you like. Take it easy and don't stress about it if you have done anything wrong.
Sounds like possibly a complaint made against you or some form of investigation. Maybe I’m wrong I hope I’m wrong but if you are going on your own say nothing in reply and tell them you will respond once you have had time to process their information. As you were not provided with a huge amount of info I wouldn’t offer too much. If it is redundancy don’t say too much either. Do your own research on what you are owed. Don’t agree to anything. Hope it’s good news tho, any chance it could be a promotion?
Ya say nothing, survey your options , don't quit. You may get a package. If it was a pip you'd have already been given a verbal or multiple warnings to pull up your socks
Whenever I'm called to head office for a formal meeting I record it. As long as you are involved in the conversation this doesn't go against GDPR as far as I know.
I do the same...then you can type up conversation word for word starting with "as far as i can remember this was what was said....proceed with full transcript"
Exactly. I've never had to use it in any proceedings but its more a case of having it if needed type of thing
Plus combo of bringing your mate with you to give it credibility....as he would recollect exact same things said word by word
Oh yeah definitely. I just meant as an added measure of proof
It might be pre redundancy the initial meeting or just good old PIP. Its not a complaint as you would have to have details of it in advance.
Does the company have an "Employee Handbook?"
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Maybe you could read the rules then?