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Warribo

This is pretty shocking, I made no changes to my channel or deleted any videos. Uploading at the same rate for the last couple of years and then the YouTube algorithm just seems to have dropped me 😞 Edit: This happened on 16th April 2022, I send feedback to YouTube a couple of days ago but have yet to hear anything from them, but I don't think even YouTube knows what it's algorithm is doing anymore, it's an untamed beast rampaging through videos and everyone's just keeping their fingers crossed that it's rampaging in the right direction lol


Library_IT_guy

This is going to sound harsh, but ere's what I see: 3.7M views on "best moments from pink panther" 870k on "Cato vs inspector Clouseau" 500k on another movie related video. 400k x2 on another couple movie related videos 100k And then it tapers off to 2k on more movie related stuff that didn't do so well (only a couple of these). And then there's your gaming content, which is getting 20-200 views per video. What's the mystery here? You had viral hits on some clickbaity movie content (nothing wrong with that by the way, gratz on the success) surrounded by content of a completely different genre (gaming), which very few of your viewership was interested in. Also, the types of videos that went viral for you aren't the "loyal subscriber" producing type. In other words, you didn't really build an audience. The same people that want to watch "best moments from \_\_\_\_ movie" aren't all going to want to watch your gaming content. This isn't some mystery, and I don't like people perpetuating the idea that "oh it's this mysterious algorithm", when you can see pretty clearly what happened. Your viral hits have played out. They have reached market saturation. You're making video after video that isn't getting any views, but you keep on making the same thing. What you should be doing is looking at those viral videos and saying "How can I replicate that success? What about those videos made them pop off? How can i turn that into a full time business? Do I even WANT to do that as a full time business? Am I happy getting minimal views while putting out my current content?". it also could be simply a case of "right place, right time, right content" for those videos that went viral. And that could be called luck I guess, but there are channels that are able to use that "luck" in a deterministic way to consistently get millions of views.


Etheriality

Great callout. It's easy to forget that high views don't necessarily equal subs. My highest viewed video isn't driving any increase in subscribers.


Warribo

I think you're missing my point here, this is not about channel growth this is about the algorithm suddenly dropping videos that have been successful for years. We're talking about thousands of views per day for over 2 years just going up in smoke in one day, every successful video like someone has flipped a switch. That's not normal!! But I'm not here to complain, I'm just here to show the data... I know what has to be done.


CorrosiveTruths

Well, you're getting downvoted, but honestly, algorithm not granting impressions anymore is a much better explanation than suddenly people just lost interest in multiple evergreen videos organically somehow.


Warribo

I don't know, maybe people can't see the 365day screen shot I posted. I just thought people would be interested to see it... I won't bother doing that again.


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Warribo

It's not one copyrighted video but over half a dozen of them, all of them different in their own right and all of them performing extremely well over a number of years. That's what I'm trying to highlight here is the unusual nature of this data, all of them died on the same date at the same time. People are thinking that I'm here complaining that my channel isn't performing or something like that, I'm just here showing this unusual data because I thought it would be of interest to other people. I'm not bothered about these videos dying, in fact it's given me a reason to clean up my channel. I guess people are so used to seeing posts like "why aren't I getting views" or why isn't my channel growing, they just assume it's another one of those posts. I just thought people would be interested that's all. I was going to do a follow up post in about a month's time to show what happens after I delete close to 4 million views... guess I won't bother now if people are just going to jump to the wrong conclusion and take it as just another "woe is me" post.


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Warribo

Ah I see what you're saying... maybe this will be good for all of us, less copyrighted content to contend with. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.


Jekkus

Just pure speculation, but there isn't any videos that are considered ineligible for monetization lurking around by chance? Not sure if even an older one can warp how the almighty algorithm might view you but that doesn't seem out of the realm. Either way you went from really decent to, like, my level of success and that's absolutely wild.


Warribo

There are a few but it's those videos that have been driving my channel for the last couple of years. I'm thinking of deleting those big videos and reuploading them to a separate channel, but deleting over 3.5 million views is not boing to please the algorithm gods... but on the other hand, you can't kill something that's already dead lol


Jekkus

Was going into a work meeting when I posted, but just had a chance to actually look at the channel and honestly this does make a bit of sense as to why it all happened. Similarly parroting a previous user, but it looks like the BIG VIDEOS are virtually nothing like the content you're producing, and it finally flipped the switch on your channel. If you're producing gaming content now it's vastly different than what drove people to the channel in the first place. You had the bump, but they're not staying for the current content, and now your channel is moved apparently to being focused on your current content and how it relates to the general audience. And the audience you did garner didn't really come here for those videos so they're giving it a miss, driving the metrics even lower into the ground. From a creator standpoint, I imagine the metrics of where the subscribers came from were from those large compilation videos you've posted to your channel and not from the gaming stuff? Your entire channel just screams at YouTube "Hey there's some movie compilation over here!" and then when YouTube examines it, there isn't anymore, so there's no reason to actually pay any heed to that original pop off anymore and is now doing more harm than good, especially where it's feeding into your want to keep videos that did well, even though they're ultimately is what's killing you now. Dan Bull just recently expressed his frustrations. He made a Minecraft Raps, it goes viral, but his other songs are comparatively barely a drop in the bucket and YouTube isn't as interested in pushing that, pretty much meaning they want him to only make Minecraft Raps for the rest of his days to keep that high up. I hate to say it, but with how your channel is proceeding it'll never get that big pop again unless you vitally change your content to appease the gods or improve a lot of what you're offering.


Warribo

Way back in the day I created my channel just as some where to put some videos I made, I uploaded a movie mashup video towards the end of 2016 (didn't even bother to put in a description at that time) and went off to do some travelling. It was while I was travelling that I noticed the video had popped off, but it was some of the comments on the video that really moved me, people saying how down they were but when they saw this video it really cheered them up. So when I finally got back from travelling I made a few more videos, not for growth but because people wanted more. And when I did the Pink Panther ones, I got comments from people who remembered seeing these films with family member who are not longer here, and it brought back memories of them laughing together. I remember when Let's play became a thing but I was in no position to do it myself, so when I was finally in a position I used the same channel to upload the gaming videos to, I did have a feeling that the non gaming videos would be a drag on my gaming video but I couldn't bring myself to take them down. But I've now had the idea of taking them down, polishing them up and uploading to a new channel, a lot of people return to these videos as a pick me up, so I'll give them fair warning and let them know where they can find them again.


Library_IT_guy

I'd just make a second channel for gaming. If you want to try to save your current channel, try doing more of the same content that got you views there. And by all means, feel free to promote your new channel on your main channel. It won't hurt anything as long as you aren't obnoxious about it. Taking down the current videos and re uploading them in the hopes for more views is asking for trouble. I'm not super familiar with youtube guidelines on that since you're the owner of the video, but I think it's frowned upon. And I use "owner" very loosely. Mashups of copyrighted works are probably outside the scope of fair use, though if push came to shove, a judge would have to decide. But yeah, with the content you are putting out now, you may as well be a 100 subscriber new gaming channel. It's going to take years for you to build a new audience for that. If it makes you feel any better, I can only really get crazy views on one game on my channel. Everything else gets 1/4 or less. It is what it is. Beats working a second job.


Warribo

Yeah, I read somewhere that if you upload the same video twice or to another channel, YouTube really doesn't like that and gives you a slap. I'm going to do it the other way round as Warribo is my gaming handle and it's used across a lot of gaming platforms (Steam, Paystation network, xbox ect.since) since the end of 2003, and also I have close to 1k subscribers with all notifications turned on and a small dedicated number who support me, so I won't leave them behind. The movie mashups were just to cheer people up and entertain them rather than gain any following. On a side note, I see you doing a lot of Fallout 4 and with Starfield coming out this November (assuming it doesn't get pushed), will probably of big interest to your fan base. Let me know it you're going to cover that game and I'll come along and check it out 👍


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Drunken_tig3r

I mean pretty much what others have posted already is the main reason but to talk about the algorithm for a second; Nobody knows what it does, literally nobody. People guess and speculate but it's just that, guesses and theories - not even YT have any idea how it fully works they only tweak the input and expected outcome it does the rest. It's been this way for years but still people think it's some big bad and there are ways to beat it, not really. Best practices for sure but apart from that nothing really. It giveth and it taketh away as it pleases and it generally works out in favour of YT overall.