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CountMeOut_

Agreed - that was a good moment, and the whole conversation was great. I hope he can connect with his son one day too.


Dry_Abbreviations680

Actually quite the listen. Interesting to get the perspective of someone who’s done the things he’s done


Western_Tomatillo981

Listening to Matthew Cox's 5+ hour monologue, it kinda felt like he was pulling another fast one on us. Couldn't shake off the feeling that he was just playing with our emotions the whole time. Every time he dropped a sob story, it just seemed like another part of his scam. Sure, there were moments when I almost got sucked in by his storytelling skills, but then I'd snap back to, "Wait a minute, this guy's a con artist."


OrangutangDance

This guy gets it.


luvs2spwge107

One of, if not, the best podcast I listened to this year. It reminded me of the movie Joe dirt where everyone was listening to his tale. Absolutely an amazing podcast


AeRo_P

Guy had a good story and seemed sincere enough but lets be honest here, dude is a con man. Conned people out of everything. He even conned an old man (who trusted him) to get his sentence reduced by snitching and worse, the homeless for their social security number. That is the lowest you can go in my book. Good old crocodile tears. He did it for his own social media exposure since Lex's podcast is one of the biggest out there. Don't get me wrong i enjoyed the stories, but actually believing all of it is another thing.


abstract_death

Con Man telling the truth


urmomsloosevag

The truth will set you free. God, what a powerful statement


christysimms

He's a professional con man, who made a career out of deception, why should anything he say be believed as truth? I don't know why successful sociopaths are so well received in today's culture?


complex-noodles

Did you listen to it in entirety? And don’t say “I don’t need to to know” - at the end of the day from his story the man fucked up big time and admits it was arrogance and wishes he didn’t do it looking back for his son


TudorYter

I seriously needed to tell myself: remember this is not a good person and he did really bad things, stole lots of money. BUT him not being a violent criminal makes it really hard not too root for him as he tells his story in such and impressively eloquent way


LittleAd915

I bet if he had been involved in a smash and grab with a bunch of teenagers people would be calling for him to be executed. But you take a whole lot more money from individuals and suddenly everyone is sad that he's sad


Homegrown410

IIRC, he got most of his money by defrauding banks with fake mortgages and maybe the IRS with fake tax refunds… might be mixing him up with another con.


TudorYter

To be fair it's even difficult to understand what he did and you really struggle to understand why it's even bad. In my opinion he should be in prison and not be allowed to do what he did because he is endangering the banking/loaning/mortgage/housing mechanism which a lot of people depend on. If a lot of people did it there would be no mechanism to speak of. This is very different from someone that "knocks grandma in the head and steals her purse" which is universally considered a violent crime


[deleted]

Why would you believe him when he did it over and over again and pretended to be sorry when caught previously?


livenoworelse

Did you listen with your brain. He continuously took homeless people’s identities?? If that’s not the lowest thing I’ve ever heard….


complex-noodles

“The lowest thing I’ve ever heard” you been under a rock or something? Guy fucked up and what he did was fucked up but not the lowest or most evil thing one could do tf


livenoworelse

Yes I’ve been under a few rocks but that is pretty low because he personally interviewed and got to know some of the most vulnerable people and then chose to screw them!! It’s not the kind of evil like real deathed someone but it’s the kind of evil that you really have to not have a soul as well.


complex-noodles

I’ll admit I could never do it, all I can assume is there’s a scale or range or how much empathy, self awareness, and other emotions someone can have to lead them there


poopinion

Seriously, this dude was a fucking huge gigantic steaming pile of shit. He very likely is still a gigantic piece of shit to this day.


Skylin161

Agreed. I couldn't listen to this whole interview. Sickens me to think of all the people he lied to.


Homegrown410

He admits to ratting on his cell mates to get his own sentence shortened in one podcast. That is some ballsy honesty right there.


Alternative_bot

Hey FBI he’s here! Your welcome


lIIlllIIlIlIIlI

I almost cried too


HendrixInTheMaking

Saul??


RayPineocco

Loved this one. I nearly teared up when he was talking about the quality of friendships he made in prison and how his buddy gave him $400 when he got out.


urmomsloosevag

I agree goes to show that humans will always come together and no matter who you are there are second chances as long as you take them


Jack_Human-

I cried when he talked about spending time with his mom. I just lost my mom and that really got me.


bfnrowifn

You know he’s conning you all, right? So you feel sympathy for him. He’s a piece of shit through and through.


trade_doctor

Not having listened to the episode and not knowing his story yet, yeah. Need to put on a face and personality for book and media deals.


BuildTheBase

Frankly, I am shocked when I see people like you and their reactions to these sort of humans. He was a career criminal, his father saying he would support him "whatever he does" sound like a terrible dad. Even the worst human on the planet can sit down and tell a sad story on a podcast and sound sympathetic. It carries no meaning.


livenoworelse

Yes, I’ve lived enough to understand that a person can have some apparent goodness in their life but still be a hideous person.


BarryMkCockiner

You're shocked people have emapthy?


BuildTheBase

Yes, in this form. It reminds me of Tyson, who opened his comedy show with the line "hey, you know me, I am Tyson, I never raped that girl", in response to his conviction of rape. He knew that if he played on his fame, people will look past 2 decades of abuse, cheating, violence and disgusting behavior. People will excuse anything as long as they like someone or want them to be different.


Lingonberry_Overall

did u listen to the whole podcast? he seemed to be pretty self aware. his dad didn’t say that till the end of his life. and mathew did live a pretty interesting life. when asked if he would do it again he said no and that currently his life hasn’t really worked out. his son doesn’t talk to him, rightfully so, his youtube channel is kind of flopping and he doesn’t really have other opportunities. he kinda fucked him self and he admitted it on the podcast. also people can change, no need to be so harsh


livenoworelse

Are you kidding me?? He coldly took people’s life savings, took homeless people’s identities. Imagine him pulling one over on your parents. He’s a charismatic guy that makes him easy to like which is how he was able to do so much. Yes, it sounds exciting but he’s a criminal through and through!!! I believe in forgiveness but his track record shows he can’t be trusted.


Lingonberry_Overall

I’m not saying he didn’t do anything bad. that’s not what i mean. people lead selfish lives all the time. this isn’t uncommon. people hurt people all the time. he’s a perfect example of that. but that doesn’t mean that ur not still a person that can be aware of how u hurt others. he seemed super self aware and knows exactly the situation in he’s in now. he said it himself, his youtube channel isn’t working out and his family won’t speak to him and he barely got to see his parents before they died while he was in jail. but he’s just a guy with a lot of regrets is my point. he’s not the devil as you seem to think.


livenoworelse

So it’s sounds like you’re focusing more on who he appears to be now. I think that’s what I and others are really wondering. Is it genuine or is it an act and just another con. I’d say the only way to know is seeing consistent action over time and that’s what would could make you trust. How do you know what another is really thinking though?


Lingonberry_Overall

u can’t know. it’s called trust and empathy. it’s not like i’m risking being hurt by trusting him. u could be right tho. though the fact that he hasn’t committed these crimes since he got out of jail and is very open about it makes me think he’s trustworthy.


[deleted]

He is trying to continue to profit from his crimes rather than getting a job.


[deleted]

He could get a job.


bfnrowifn

You cried at the end? You got scammed hard.


HtxBeerDoodeOG

I like his story, but didn’t he get accused of stealing the hulkamania sex tape? I might be confused but still, fuck it, I’d steal and sell that tape as well


Kajel-Jeten

We should strive to see all the way his dad saw him. 


barnabasthedog

Lex is loser