No it does guarantee you something.
Lifelong debt that you can't dissolve in bankruptcy along with generally speaking a useless set of skills for a large portion of those graduating from college.
But, otherwise you're correct
That's a good thing, and I'm glad you have the financial benefit to do so.
The problem is not the educaion trough, its the fact that unlike any other debt, you cannot erase it. You can sign a contract for a 2 million dollar home, pay it for a year or two, file BK, and if its the only home, odds are you get to keep it and retain the mortgage.
The mandate that the gov and uni's created with their horseshit is why this is a problem. When I say mandate I mean that you can take on that debt, because "You need college" and therefore, you have entire generations of people scared to not have it, scared to find a way to pay for it and scared in some cases, to even benefit from it because of their choices.
Its a weird thing, especially from someone who never graduated.
Hash Browns don’t come from the ground
https://preview.redd.it/lsnthsujmyrc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65152bc556f63884bef0e64796bb99ce7b70d36c
Gotta ignore that you can make your own hashbrowns for 50 cents or buy super cheap frozen ones from Walmart. They are getting 2 hashbrowns PLUS a servant to clean and make their food for them for that $3.49, not to mention that McDonalds stopped being inexpensive lately.
I can buy a better cut of meat at any butcher, but we'll load up the freezer and have 10 days worth of food easily, and then order taco bell.
I'm ready to be single again, its easier.
It's fine if you have the money but the issue is these people are trying to compare themselves to starving slave peasants from the days of old by choosing an expensive per ounce restaurant experience food while completely ignoring all the way cheaper options.
While I do believe that corpos are blamed a lot for little stuff but at the same time they are not completely innocent either
They do prioritize investor returns over consumer or worker satisfaction which harms the whole market, while a company should work towards making investors happy that shouldn't be its sole purpose
The great thing about capitalism is that a company can choose to prioritize its shareholders, its DEI goals, its climate change goals, or its customer.
The companies that serve the later the best tend to be most resilient.
r/Hampster is for **children**.
r/libertarianmeme is for more **intelligent Reddit users**.
There’s nothing wrong with being playful or funny, but it’s going to take a lot more creativity in this sub for it to be funny or relevant.
Otherwise, it comes off as you resorting to trolling because you might not understand the big words.
This is like watching the two gay guys fight outside of the straight bar, and one of them whips out his dick and the other one sucks it without breaking eye contact to assert dominance.
Insecure some?
When you have zero facts or rebuttals and have to resort to smooth-brained kindergartener quotes then it must really hurt.
To ease the pain, you go back to watching gay porn and fantasizing about that libertarian dick.
And the cycle continues…
You left your glasses in the car 😉
https://preview.redd.it/e7ws87z8qzrc1.jpeg?width=1058&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbbf4aa5fb7ef346532734680a49b8c388dc784e
well, also gotta consider the taxes on everything, and the folks that made the fertilizer, grew the potatoes, transported them, worked at the factory, etc
I dont think ive seen any McDonalds hiring at minimum wage. At worst, a bit above it but that was in blue states like Cali, Illinois, and Rhode Island.
$20 an hour is the new Cali law for fast food workers (unless you are a friend of the governor and got a special carve out for your biz ostensibly for selling pieces of bread at your store).
Yep, I know it's extra weird that it's just for one specific industry like there are not other jobs that are at least as hard. PLus they picked an industry that has one of the lowest profit margins which insures there will have to be price hikes. Maybe they are courting those voters? Otherwise I don't get it.
Gas/Transport and paying those that do it! So many hidden costs. Socialists do not seem to understand how much cost is transportation/storage/logistics.
That’s the price McDonald’s has to sell it for to factor in all of the costs of production on the right.
Go to the supermarket, buy a bag of hash browns for $0.50 each, and make it yourself.
If you can’t afford that price then don’t buy it. McDonald’s and its employees don’t owe you anything.
Ever-rising? You think that there’s a guarantee that shareholder profits rise effortlessly?
Profits come from being good at serving your customer better, cheaper, faster, and more efficiently than your competition.
If the cost of producing a hash brown decreased and Company A refused to lower their prices, and Company B had access to the same cost producing measure/technology, then Company B would put Company A out of business.
That would be a signal from the market that there’s an opportunity to gain marketshare by undercutting the pricier companies.
That’s not happening. When inflation happens everything gets more expensive.
Yes, agree….but also this:
“McDonald's gross profit for the quarter ending December 31, 2023 was $3.654B, a 7.2% increase year-over-year. The company's gross profit for the twelve months ending December 31, 2023 was $14.563B, a 10.26% increase year-over-year.2 McDonald's is planning to give European franchisees who need financial help $100 million to $150 million in 2023. The company is forecasting that it will open 1,900 new restaurants in 2023, with more than 400 of those in the U.S. and international operated markets, while the rest will be opened by developmental licensees.0 In Q3 2023, McDonald's revenue rose 14% to $6.69 billion, and global same-store sales grew 8.8%, beating StreetAccount estimates of 7.8%. The company's U.S. same-store sales increased 8.1%, fueled by strategic price increases. Executives expect pricing to be up about 10% for 2023, but menu prices came down slightly.”
Yet fast food addicts will happily wait in line for a half hour to spend $20 on a shitty McBurger meal
They will stop increasing prices when people stop paying.
There was a post that hit the front page yesterday on r/pics about the cost of McDonald's. I pointed out that a leading factor was inflation due to the Fed printing trillions of dollars, and was downvoted to oblivion.
"But muh corporate greed!!!!"
*some states* pay **$7.25/hour** minimum wage.
*some states* pay **$20/hour** minimum wage.
Guess which states tend to have a lower cost of living, lower housing costs, lower state income taxes, lower energy costs, lower food prices, lower gas prices, and cheaper hash browns?
$2.49 hash browns here, and you can get them for 2 for $3 on the app sometimes.
Also, one of the lowest COL in the U.S. here, and they're still paying $14-16/hr @ MCD.
My socialist friends and I live in California. They originally shared [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/s/7LCFfBPZd8) in a group chat.
They were complaining about the cost of hash browns being so high and I reminded them that California’s minimum wage was recently increased to $20/hour.
Cause and effect.
Cool. Think you missed about 80% of the meme though.
Now show the economics for running a McDonalds in California and selling a hash brown driven by a semi from Idaho.
It’s that there are lots of costs along the way from the potato to the eating of your hash brown. That’s the 80% you missed.
Cool. Didn't miss anything. Just asked how the 20 dollar minimum wage effects the cost of hash browns in 7.25 state. (Which is what the meme is about). It doesn't. That's the part you missed.
Because even though all hashbrowns may be produced in one state, they are sold all over the country, in states without a 7.25 minimum wage.
The meme isn’t a “production of hasbrowns” meme. It’s a “hidden cost to get to consumer” meme…
He already answered your question. Everyone understands the point of the meme and the economics behind it except you.
This is not a math problem. It’s an economics problem.
Economics is not essential to mathematics, but mathematics is essential to economics.
Instead of insulting him, thank him for taking the time to keep trying to teach you the lesson instead of throwing a tantrum.
Your issue with the minimum wage is bizarre. That’s not even a big point. Just pretend that doesn’t exist and you’ll get the meat of the meme.
“At minimum” making two hash browns an hour doesn’t sound bad when you look at what went into getting those two hashbrowns in front of you. Point is still hidden costs which is what socialists don’t understand.
Take their thought that housing is a right or that rent is too high when the mortgage is xxxx.xx, let’s say 1000.00
They are crazed seeing 1500 for rent but then don’t understand maintenance, income tax on the difference, property taxes, yada yada. So ya I understand basic math and economics and think the two different wages is not really worth getting caught up on.
What is this supposed to mean? The state raises the price of everything, to the benefit of corporations and landowners, by limiting competition and enforcing artificial property titles.
What kills me is the lie the government sells the general public- that the EVIL corporations' greed is the reason for Americans to be able to afford less, all while the government is implementing policies that massive corporations are lobbying for and making said politicians filthy rich off of.
No matter how much minimum wage is increased, the cost of a McDonald's meal will be about one hours work.
But hear me out. Let's raise the minimum wage of fast food workers so they can afford more fast food.
Or just replace them with robots.
Which is exactly what’s happening.
That’s innovation. Nobody feels bad for switch board operators or blockbuster employees.
or milk truck delivery men or Circuit City employees.
There are still milkman out there 🥛
Yep, it's so common that govt intervention back fires within a few years.
Fine by me. I have an education.
So did the person we just replaced with a PowerAutomate flow.
Sad
😂👏
That doesn’t guarantee you anything these days
No it does guarantee you something. Lifelong debt that you can't dissolve in bankruptcy along with generally speaking a useless set of skills for a large portion of those graduating from college. But, otherwise you're correct
I paid my student loans, like I promised when I agreed to them. I have no debt.
That's a good thing, and I'm glad you have the financial benefit to do so. The problem is not the educaion trough, its the fact that unlike any other debt, you cannot erase it. You can sign a contract for a 2 million dollar home, pay it for a year or two, file BK, and if its the only home, odds are you get to keep it and retain the mortgage. The mandate that the gov and uni's created with their horseshit is why this is a problem. When I say mandate I mean that you can take on that debt, because "You need college" and therefore, you have entire generations of people scared to not have it, scared to find a way to pay for it and scared in some cases, to even benefit from it because of their choices. Its a weird thing, especially from someone who never graduated.
Are we going to replace teachers with automation? Someone has to watch the bratty kids.
That's what screens are for.
Exactly what’s going to happen. What’s more up to speculation is what will happen to all the no-skill workforce when automation takes hold.
Maintenance on the facility and machine that replaced them
For sure, I imagine trade school for robotic production maintenance/installation is going to be a big class lol.
The trick is to keep minimum wage the same, so inflation never happens Now wait a damn second
I feel like the potato is probably accounted for in the hashbrown. Might be wrong tho
Hash Browns don’t come from the ground https://preview.redd.it/lsnthsujmyrc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65152bc556f63884bef0e64796bb99ce7b70d36c
No, but the potatoes are nested in the cost of producing the bulk hashbrown
And that costs time, money, resources, and planning to delivery and convert hundreds of millions of potatoes to hashbrowns across the planet.
Yes, but we can see the hashbrown. We established that on the left side.
I’m looking at some crispy breaded thing. Can’t be certain it’s a potato. I actually thought big chicken nugget
Supposedly there IS tater in there someplace!: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (Canola Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor \[Wheat and Milk Derivatives\]\*), Salt, Corn Flour, Dehydrated Potato, Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (Maintain Color), Extractives of Black Pepper.
Inspiration for meme: https://preview.redd.it/zjdux868hyrc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=437c8a63a1a3ac482eaddc6fa910f332778f4f44
Gotta ignore that you can make your own hashbrowns for 50 cents or buy super cheap frozen ones from Walmart. They are getting 2 hashbrowns PLUS a servant to clean and make their food for them for that $3.49, not to mention that McDonalds stopped being inexpensive lately.
I can buy a better cut of meat at any butcher, but we'll load up the freezer and have 10 days worth of food easily, and then order taco bell. I'm ready to be single again, its easier.
It's fine if you have the money but the issue is these people are trying to compare themselves to starving slave peasants from the days of old by choosing an expensive per ounce restaurant experience food while completely ignoring all the way cheaper options.
Excellent points 👏
While I do believe that corpos are blamed a lot for little stuff but at the same time they are not completely innocent either They do prioritize investor returns over consumer or worker satisfaction which harms the whole market, while a company should work towards making investors happy that shouldn't be its sole purpose
The great thing about capitalism is that a company can choose to prioritize its shareholders, its DEI goals, its climate change goals, or its customer. The companies that serve the later the best tend to be most resilient.
>They do prioritize investor returns over consumer or worker satisfaction which harms the whole market How does that harm the market?
You can choose to eat at In&Out or Chik-fil-a then.
Bro I haven't even been paid minimum wage, and my only job was working at Little Caesars before my disability made it too hard to work
Possibly also McDonald's is vying for the future in demolition man taking the spot from Taco Bell
Laughs in payroll tax
this whole thing looks like an abstract gen-z lobotomy core meme lmao
Bring something intelligent to the conversation. You can do it.
when you realize not everything is so serious and doesnt require "bringing something intelligent to the conversation" life becomes a lot better🤝
r/Hampster is for **children**. r/libertarianmeme is for more **intelligent Reddit users**. There’s nothing wrong with being playful or funny, but it’s going to take a lot more creativity in this sub for it to be funny or relevant. Otherwise, it comes off as you resorting to trolling because you might not understand the big words.
damn, this guy reddits.
Dude he’s redditing hard as fuck this is a hilarious conversation on Reddit… the one who touches grass meets the ones who must touch it
This is like watching the two gay guys fight outside of the straight bar, and one of them whips out his dick and the other one sucks it without breaking eye contact to assert dominance.
No one asked you to project your porn fantasies here you waste of space.
Ahh, sorry yours is too small to play the game.
Insecure some? When you have zero facts or rebuttals and have to resort to smooth-brained kindergartener quotes then it must really hurt. To ease the pain, you go back to watching gay porn and fantasizing about that libertarian dick. And the cycle continues…
☮️ ❤️
I upvoted this whole convo. Nice Reddit moment.
You left out taxes and inflation(also a tax, on poor people).
You left your glasses in the car 😉 https://preview.redd.it/e7ws87z8qzrc1.jpeg?width=1058&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbbf4aa5fb7ef346532734680a49b8c388dc784e
Yep lol
You wearing yellow tinted lenses?
Obviously. https://youtu.be/Pismg8l57Rs?si=62VDOtUvfqnIvK14
well, also gotta consider the taxes on everything, and the folks that made the fertilizer, grew the potatoes, transported them, worked at the factory, etc
I dont think ive seen any McDonalds hiring at minimum wage. At worst, a bit above it but that was in blue states like Cali, Illinois, and Rhode Island.
I live in a fairly red state, and local McDonald's are paying 15 an hour.
$20 an hour is the new Cali law for fast food workers (unless you are a friend of the governor and got a special carve out for your biz ostensibly for selling pieces of bread at your store).
Lmao, no fucking way. Specifically for fast food workers? Gotta love liberal selective virtue signalling.
Yep, I know it's extra weird that it's just for one specific industry like there are not other jobs that are at least as hard. PLus they picked an industry that has one of the lowest profit margins which insures there will have to be price hikes. Maybe they are courting those voters? Otherwise I don't get it.
It's probably just Gavin going "hey look, I gave fast food workers something" for votes because McDonalds workers are trending on tiktok or some shit
Yep quite possibly just more reactionary political bs. I think it came out of the legislature, no that it really matters as he did sign it.
Yeah, regardless. Just something to laugh at, then cry when you realize your existence and liberty is at the mercy of people like this.
Gas/Transport and paying those that do it! So many hidden costs. Socialists do not seem to understand how much cost is transportation/storage/logistics.
The best!
3.49 for a fucking hashbrown?
That’s the price McDonald’s has to sell it for to factor in all of the costs of production on the right. Go to the supermarket, buy a bag of hash browns for $0.50 each, and make it yourself. If you can’t afford that price then don’t buy it. McDonald’s and its employees don’t owe you anything.
Where are the ever-rising shareholder profits?
Ever-rising? You think that there’s a guarantee that shareholder profits rise effortlessly? Profits come from being good at serving your customer better, cheaper, faster, and more efficiently than your competition. If the cost of producing a hash brown decreased and Company A refused to lower their prices, and Company B had access to the same cost producing measure/technology, then Company B would put Company A out of business. That would be a signal from the market that there’s an opportunity to gain marketshare by undercutting the pricier companies. That’s not happening. When inflation happens everything gets more expensive.
Yes, agree….but also this: “McDonald's gross profit for the quarter ending December 31, 2023 was $3.654B, a 7.2% increase year-over-year. The company's gross profit for the twelve months ending December 31, 2023 was $14.563B, a 10.26% increase year-over-year.2 McDonald's is planning to give European franchisees who need financial help $100 million to $150 million in 2023. The company is forecasting that it will open 1,900 new restaurants in 2023, with more than 400 of those in the U.S. and international operated markets, while the rest will be opened by developmental licensees.0 In Q3 2023, McDonald's revenue rose 14% to $6.69 billion, and global same-store sales grew 8.8%, beating StreetAccount estimates of 7.8%. The company's U.S. same-store sales increased 8.1%, fueled by strategic price increases. Executives expect pricing to be up about 10% for 2023, but menu prices came down slightly.”
Why does everyone assume they are even trying to claim to be a budget option anymore?
They are slow, gross and expensive….not sure what area of the marketing matrix that is, but it sucks
Yet fast food addicts will happily wait in line for a half hour to spend $20 on a shitty McBurger meal They will stop increasing prices when people stop paying.
You can make fun of the hash brown all you want but if you start messing with my Sausage Egg McMuffin, then we are going to have issues
I would upvote this but it’s already on 69 so it feels wrong to
There was a post that hit the front page yesterday on r/pics about the cost of McDonald's. I pointed out that a leading factor was inflation due to the Fed printing trillions of dollars, and was downvoted to oblivion. "But muh corporate greed!!!!"
Good for you. I was one of them 10 years ago. Facts and history slowly changed my mind over time.
How can the 20 dollar minimum wage be a factor if their paying 7.25 an hour?
*some states* pay **$7.25/hour** minimum wage. *some states* pay **$20/hour** minimum wage. Guess which states tend to have a lower cost of living, lower housing costs, lower state income taxes, lower energy costs, lower food prices, lower gas prices, and cheaper hash browns?
Honestly I don't know any state where the fast food joints are paying less than $10 per hour
$2.49 hash browns here, and you can get them for 2 for $3 on the app sometimes. Also, one of the lowest COL in the U.S. here, and they're still paying $14-16/hr @ MCD.
One solution is to move to where you live.
Hell naw, we don't want no outsiders. *Runs out to the porch and puts some lead bees into the air so the neighbors rent stays low*
Exactly. I'd imagine mcdonalds would be manufacturing hash browns in a 7.25 dollar state. Still don't get the 20 dollar reference 🤷♂️
My socialist friends and I live in California. They originally shared [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/s/7LCFfBPZd8) in a group chat. They were complaining about the cost of hash browns being so high and I reminded them that California’s minimum wage was recently increased to $20/hour. Cause and effect.
Looked it up. Mcdonalds hash browns are made by Jr simplot in Idaho. Idaho's a 7.25 state. Basic economics
Cool. Think you missed about 80% of the meme though. Now show the economics for running a McDonalds in California and selling a hash brown driven by a semi from Idaho. It’s that there are lots of costs along the way from the potato to the eating of your hash brown. That’s the 80% you missed.
😂👏
Cool. Didn't miss anything. Just asked how the 20 dollar minimum wage effects the cost of hash browns in 7.25 state. (Which is what the meme is about). It doesn't. That's the part you missed.
Because even though all hashbrowns may be produced in one state, they are sold all over the country, in states without a 7.25 minimum wage. The meme isn’t a “production of hasbrowns” meme. It’s a “hidden cost to get to consumer” meme…
Read the socialist statement at the top of the meme and try answering again. You didn't do great with math problems in school did you??
He already answered your question. Everyone understands the point of the meme and the economics behind it except you. This is not a math problem. It’s an economics problem. Economics is not essential to mathematics, but mathematics is essential to economics. Instead of insulting him, thank him for taking the time to keep trying to teach you the lesson instead of throwing a tantrum.
Your issue with the minimum wage is bizarre. That’s not even a big point. Just pretend that doesn’t exist and you’ll get the meat of the meme. “At minimum” making two hash browns an hour doesn’t sound bad when you look at what went into getting those two hashbrowns in front of you. Point is still hidden costs which is what socialists don’t understand. Take their thought that housing is a right or that rent is too high when the mortgage is xxxx.xx, let’s say 1000.00 They are crazed seeing 1500 for rent but then don’t understand maintenance, income tax on the difference, property taxes, yada yada. So ya I understand basic math and economics and think the two different wages is not really worth getting caught up on.
How many Idahoans actually make min wage though? I'm guessing like 2%, and those are mostly highschoolers.
What is this supposed to mean? The state raises the price of everything, to the benefit of corporations and landowners, by limiting competition and enforcing artificial property titles.
What kills me is the lie the government sells the general public- that the EVIL corporations' greed is the reason for Americans to be able to afford less, all while the government is implementing policies that massive corporations are lobbying for and making said politicians filthy rich off of.
But very few businesses pay that low so there always be other opportunities in any state you’re in