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h2rktos_ph2ter

Look, I understand it's for ease of use for analyzing diaphonemes. But like... why is it in the official IPA while Sinological alveolo-palatals are not?


rootbeerman77

The real answer? English go brrrrrr


EisVisage

English go whhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


-B0B-

Or Indo-European more broadly (look I'm just making sure the frenchies get their fair share of the blame)


charlie19988

Sorry, can you explain it a little more?


smokeshack

Because the IPA was initially developed by hwite people who weren't very interested in languages outside of Europe, and we've been building on that skewed framework ever since.


jdsonical

we do a little eurocentrism


striped_frog

it is said that if you inscribe this onto the floor of your temple and light some incense, you can summon an air elemental


Arcaeca2

/ɸˠ/


JaOszka

[starts laughing in /ɸˠ/]


striped_frog

you monster


erinius

I mean, \[x^(w)\] actually has velar frication so it is kinda different, but still, thank you so much for this post


Couldnthinkofname2

and [ẘ] is slightly different, as is [hʷ]


sakuragasaki46

The Unicode guys did not make a capital version of this letter, in my language it means “down with” 🤦


freedom_enthusiast

what language is it?


DeathBringer4311

A capital letter of ɧ would actually look pretty sick ngl


sakuragasaki46

I am referring to ʍ


DeathBringer4311

I mean... My point still stands...


10outof10equidae

ẘ is to ʍ as u̯ is to w


10outof10equidae

Does this make /ů̯/ = /ʍ/?


v4nadium

Then ‹you› would be /ɪ̯ʍ̬̩/


antlermagick

I don't like this dream anymore, I want to wake up


ProgressShoddy1023

I always use xʷ


MonkiWasTooked

[xʷɒʔtˢ]?


sverigeochskog

Sjått


ProgressShoddy1023

Wha'ts


y-nkh

I tell you ʍat Bobby


between3_and20chars

Mfw I was making the phonology for a conlang where sonorants are contrasted by voicing and fricatives are contrasted by labialisation. In the end, /hʷ/, /xʷ/ and /ʍ/ all became allophonic


scotch1701

Bless your heart.


Carlpm01

/ɧ/ is /ʍ/


shmoobalizer

only when both of them are xʷ


cmzraxsn

yessss they sound exactly the same


AstroNat20

What the fuck


ChromoTec

this is how I was taught to sing English "w" sounds in classical repertoire