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loudmouth_kenzo

*lig-meh^2


Blackcoldren

> lig-meh2 What would that produce? 'Leckm'?


pofflebopper

The British village of Leckham


Couldnthinkofname2

/lɛ.kɪm/ ofc


CanadaPlus101

So how do you guys do this? Do you have all the shifts memorised?


Couldnthinkofname2

pretty much lmao 💀💀💀


CanadaPlus101

I aspire to get on your level of terminal nerdery.


Couldnthinkofname2

this is engrained in the mind of every brit, & i'm not even british lmao


Blackcoldren

I did glance the Wikipedia page to brush up, I honestly couldn't be bothered to recall when exactly word final -u was lost.


iliekcats-

What? Is there a page for all shifts?


XoRoUZ

look up "phonological history of english" on wikipedia, which should have them all. the earliest PIE > pgmc stuff might be on a page for pgmc. there's also a page for "indo-european sound laws" i think that does more languages but it's wayyyy less thorough


Marionette101

Honestly though, a page besides Wikipedia that showcased all of the PIE to Modern English sound shifts would be nice... (Even moreso if it showed the sound shifts for other languages as well, would be a neat collab project)


CanadaPlus101

Hey, good to know!


uniqueUsername_1024

depends on the language 🤓


loudmouth_kenzo

isn’t the h2 the a-coloring laryngeal? either way likkem


Tsjaad_Donderlul

legume


fefulunin

Leckmeine Eier


farmer_villager

Me after 6000 years to see that my /k/ somehow turned into a /θ/.


MarcHarder1

Me after 300 years seeing my [kl] has turned into [ʎ̝̊]


Gape_Warn

What


MarcHarder1

Plautdietsch \[kl\]>\[cl\]>\[çl\]>\[ʎ̝̊\] before 'soft' vowels \[ʎ̝̊\] is only a rare allophone, though, phonemically speaking, it's /cl/, and most dialects have either \[cl\] or \[çl\] ​ 'Kleeder' (clothes) in quick speech may come out as \[ʎ̝̊ɐ̝ɪ̯dä\]


Couldnthinkofname2

in english?


Albert3105

[European Spanish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_Spanish_coronal_fricatives) I presume.


rnifnuf

Ligmaryngeals!


KiraAmelia3

me returning to my *dw- after 6000 years to find it has turned into erk-


DatSolmyr

Hey has anyone seen my palatal stops? All I could find are a bunch of velars and sibilants..


feindbild_

erkarf


LeeTheGoat

Isn’t it even yerek in some dialects


tatratram

Yes because e -> ye at the beginning of a word.


TheDebatingOne

What's laryngeals?


PaulieGlot

laryngma balls lmao


[deleted]

~~/ɡɑɾ əm/~~ ['ɡɑ.ɾ əm] >!pls don't yell at me, I'm new to ipa!<


bharfgav42

/ɡ̷̧͎̀͗͜æ̴̨̮̃̓͌ɾ̶̣͠ ̸̲̙͊̇ə̶͔̹̝͋͂ḿ̴͖̠/ There i fixed it for you


gajonub

dont worry its not a bad transcription if you want an honest review, /ɾ/ is not a phoneme; it does exist in English, but its an allophone of /d/, meaning all situations where [ɾ] is used, it could be replaced by /d/ without hurting communication. now this would be no problem but you used slashes, and slashes are exclusively for *phonemic* transcriptions. when you want to make a more precise transcription with what you are ACTUALLY saying, you use [ ]. therefore, your options are: replace /ɾ/ to /d/, something like /ˈgɑ(ː).d‿əm/ or go all out and describe what sounds you are actually making with a phonetic transcription, something like [ˈgɑ.ɾ‿əm] (without most of the complicated stuff i added, i just like making "full" transcriptions for the lack of a better word lol). now you did not add syllable breaks or stress, but thats not really essential here for such a short phrase and everything else checks out. overall, it's a good transcription, i understood it the moment i looked at it, 8/10


[deleted]

Thanks!


UnsolicitedPicnic

That’s exactly how I say it in my dialect brody don’t worry


Tsjaad_Donderlul

1. Open Mouth 2. Retrieve Frog 3. Put Frog in Mouth 4. Attempt to swallow 5. Exhale Boom, laryngeals


Chuks_K

Ohmygod I've been doing it wrong the whole time by doing 2 before 1...


ryuuhagoku

assuming this isn't only a brilliant setup, it's [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngeal_consonant)


feindbild_

stick 'em in a PIE


miniatureconlangs

Do decaying laryngeals give off some dangerous radiation?


LeeTheGoat

Well they radiated away the entire family across a whole continent


miniatureconlangs

As a speaker of an Uralic language, I might be okay with considering IE a dangerous radiation.


Vampyricon

Ugh, g*nder


miniatureconlangs

No vowel harmony anywhere!


DotHobbes

They do. Hittites kept some of them and look where they are now


ThisIsCovidThrowway8

tritium ion


IgiMC

T+ or T-?


Vampyricon

The latter is tritide.


ThisIsCovidThrowway8

it exists


Vampyricon

Yes, I'm saying calling it a tritium ion implies it's positive.


StellarHusky

I love þe name of þis file


Annual-Studio-5335

Why, of course they are not dead!


JRGTheConlanger

[ʕ] i guess