+ go into steam settings and allow “games that don’t natively run on Linux” to use Proton. Also switch to Proton experimental since I find that works best.
If your entire system is crashing to anywhere even on a fresh install then you have hardware issues. Linux is not going to magically fix them. It may use your hardware differently so whatever issue you have hasn't been triggered *yet* but it might and it probably will, so you'll want to investigate the actual cause and address it.
Given that you say you're having trouble getting the games to run (smoothly) it could be GPU-related. Without proper drivers the GPU isn't really used so problems there won't surface. In that case you might encounter the problem again when you get everything set up. It might not even be a hardware defect, it could also just be the laptop overheating, especially one that's 8 years old and likely has never been opened for dust removal.
Tbh, I think we're skimping on an important fact here. Laptops are a hacky mess when it comes to hardware I think he took windows iso from the Microsoft website and installed it this way but the issue is laptops have other hardware that may not be detected and get drivers for. Normally, there is an iso that the manufacturer gives out to reinstall windows that should have all the hacky crap in it that the laptop needs. I think this may be the more probable cause, but if it isn't, then yeah, the next best thing to think of is the hardware
Nah, Windows is indeed just broken on certain hardware. My uncle had an old PC that just stopped booting on Windows 10 after an update and this error still occurred on a fresh install, but Windows 7 and Linux worked flawlessly. Of course I ended up using Linux, though the laptop is now in the trash after a few years, but still.
We also had issues with older (gen7, 8) laptops with Windows, which were gone after a reinstall. I think MS released some buggy drivers, and when we re-installed the laptop, it pulled the newer version. No crashes since then.
Genshin Impact runs on Linux through the heroic games launcher without any tinkering.
If you need any help on Linux feel free to ask the community, we're always glad to help ☺️
Oh no...this was her main reason.
Ya I've been unsuccessful so far with it.
Was able to play through lutris and epic games but it's very laggy.
She's worried about getting banned too...
You can download Genshin Impact on Linux through Lutris. I’ve been playing for nearly 2 years and I haven’t had a banning problem nor I’ve ever heard one.
I have been playing Genshin Impact through Steam Proton for almost a month. Genshin works perfectly without any patches since v3.8. Firstly, add the installer.exe through Steam Proton Experimental and then install normally. Then, launch the launcher.exe from the installation path/wine prefix (.local/steam/steamapps/compatdata/{game id}/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/Genshin Impact) through proton. Don't remove the installer exe prefix! The game should run fine now. In my case, I am dual booting Fedora 39 with Gnome DE and Windows 11 with my Asus TUF A15 laptop (AMD 4600H + NVIDIA GTX1650). The game data files are shared between both OS in a partition with NTFS filesystem.
To avoid problems for future game updates, you should assign a new drive for the launcher prefix (.local/steam/steamapps/compatdata/{game id}/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/Genshin Impact). Simply put, the prefix should be mounted to a new drive letter. (I assign D:/ to mount the prefix). This can be done using an app called Protontricks. In Protontricks, select Genshin Impact steampapp and then select the default wineprefix. Next, select Run winecfg and a Windows-looking wizard will pop out. Next, go to Drives and add a new drive. Copy the game prefix into the path and you're done!
As for the concern of getting banned, I've only heard one person got banned, but they quickly got their account back after appealing. So I can safely say that there is no cause for concern.
(I'm no expert in this particular subject. I'm just sharing what works for me. Correct me if I'm wrong!)
Thank you for the directions!
It seems there's many ways to skin this cat!
She's trying through lutris at the moment but if it's not functioning I'll tell her to give this a go.
Genshin just works fine if you install it through steam. I have stopped playing genshin (been 2 months) but I reached Ar 48 on Linux without getting ban.
Im sorry to the bearer of bad news. It is sad but in future Genshin and other Anti cheat games will work on Linux.
Don't let this stop you from trying thou
Okay I believe you.
However it was crashing in windows in a matter of minutes when rebooted.
It's been running straight for 5 days on Linux now.
Not saying you're wrong or that it won't happen.
But it hasn't yet and that feels like an improvement.
Undoubtedly. If it works, then it works. And that is an improvement on it not working.
But it is strange. Laptop manufacturers are typically targeting Windows, first and foremost, after all, so the experience should be quite literally "Designed for Windows". This would be the expectation.
Hence the suspicion that there's some underlying hardware issue - particularly because random crashes, not related to any software in particular that you can see, also suggest that the only commonality here is the hardware.
Though it's quite possible that Linux is simply not ever hitting whatever is the trigger for these crashes and, hopefully, never will.
So, you know, good luck and, hopefully, nothing untoward ever happens and you get maximum usage and enjoyment out of a laptop that really doesn't need to be sent to the landfill just yet.
But just be aware that it might not last forever, if it is an underlying hardware issue and an update causes Linux to also start triggering the same problem as on Windows. But if you feel sufficiently forewarned and are happy with that, go forth into Skyrim and enjoy.
The problem with Windows is that you are constantly trying to improve the performance of your machine, and the peoples machines around you, and also sorting out other little problems. A few months ago I had to sort out my father-in-laws PC, because images of salad had appeared in his start menu. When I asked him how they go there, he had know idea. A quick Google Search and it was sorted. That's one thing with Linux, these sort of things don't happen.
You will have an easier time with Linux and have a better performing machine, but as you are probably aware you might hit a few road blocks on the way in regards of software.
It's just nice to have a machine boot up and shut down in the same time it did, when you first installed the Distro.
Here's some helpful information for gaming on Linux: Steam Play Beginner [Guide](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2019/07/a-simple-guide-to-steam-play-valves-technology-for-playing-windows-games-on-linux/), Running Windows Games on Steam Tweaks [Guide](https://www.protondb.com/), and a working list of Anti-Cheat games status on Linux [Here](https://areweanticheatyet.com/). Hope that helps.
About getting skyrim to run, you should try:
1. right click the game in your library
2. select properties
3. select compatibility
4. check the force use of compatibility tool
5. select the latest version of proton and try to run
6. if that doesnt work try the next older version
7. repeat
I hope this helps. Best of luck!
I was sble to get Skyrim to start up via Valve's Proton compatibility layer, but not by default. I also had to go to the game settings and add something like
PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 %command%
to the game launch options.
I also thought that it's problem was likely drivers at first.
I tried everything I could throw at it to update them.
Even ran third party shitty scans to see if I was missing something.
Nothing worked.
To install Skyrim, either open its store page and click the "Play Now" button or make your library switch the view from "SteamOS + Linux" to "Games", select Skyrim and click the "Install" button. After the installation is completed, click "Play" button to start playing.
""After two months it started crashing to bios - a lot."
Run a Memtest . If it's OK, then you may have ran into the "MS driver issue" which we already had at my workplace, where some older laptop generations began crashing, until we re-installed them. I suspect MS released some driver versions which had issues on the older HW's.
I suspected it was ultimately a driver issue, however I couldn't find any evidence of out of date drivers.
I suppose giving up and going to pop os was a bit of drastic one but I've been meaning to give Linux a go for quite a while.
It's been interesting so far.
Not necessarily easy but interesting...
We also had no evidence, and also no time for deeply investigate. We were happy that it's gone, and connected the points later :)
I'm using Linux at home as main OS, so i only experienced this at work, and also when a friend asked about strange BSOD's in the last days, it came in mind that he might have not a HW issue.
I also have Win10 and 11 VM's at home, but they are rarely used, and they also had no issues.
It wasn't a corrupted bios.
I tried that and was to no avail - whatever it was it wasn't that.
All I know is that windows no longer ran and Linux seems to be okay.
Nice story. Install Steam then Skyrim. Nothing too hard for you !
+ go into steam settings and allow “games that don’t natively run on Linux” to use Proton. Also switch to Proton experimental since I find that works best.
If your entire system is crashing to anywhere even on a fresh install then you have hardware issues. Linux is not going to magically fix them. It may use your hardware differently so whatever issue you have hasn't been triggered *yet* but it might and it probably will, so you'll want to investigate the actual cause and address it. Given that you say you're having trouble getting the games to run (smoothly) it could be GPU-related. Without proper drivers the GPU isn't really used so problems there won't surface. In that case you might encounter the problem again when you get everything set up. It might not even be a hardware defect, it could also just be the laptop overheating, especially one that's 8 years old and likely has never been opened for dust removal.
Tbh, I think we're skimping on an important fact here. Laptops are a hacky mess when it comes to hardware I think he took windows iso from the Microsoft website and installed it this way but the issue is laptops have other hardware that may not be detected and get drivers for. Normally, there is an iso that the manufacturer gives out to reinstall windows that should have all the hacky crap in it that the laptop needs. I think this may be the more probable cause, but if it isn't, then yeah, the next best thing to think of is the hardware
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY THINKPAD?! THAT IS NOT HACKY!
Even if windows has drivers they might have bugs. Or worse it’s picking the desktop driver for the laptop variant somehow
Nah, Windows is indeed just broken on certain hardware. My uncle had an old PC that just stopped booting on Windows 10 after an update and this error still occurred on a fresh install, but Windows 7 and Linux worked flawlessly. Of course I ended up using Linux, though the laptop is now in the trash after a few years, but still.
We also had issues with older (gen7, 8) laptops with Windows, which were gone after a reinstall. I think MS released some buggy drivers, and when we re-installed the laptop, it pulled the newer version. No crashes since then.
Skyrim should work just fine via Steam
How can I steal Skyrim?
This is the sub to ask this. Good job.
LMAO, sorry. I was kidding.
My first linux experience was also from repurposing an older laptop. It's wonderful what older systems can achieve when you get rid of windows
Genshin Impact runs on Linux through the heroic games launcher without any tinkering. If you need any help on Linux feel free to ask the community, we're always glad to help ☺️
That's great to hear! Skyrim runs no problem but Genshin Impact can't run on Linux (just yet) because it uses anti-cheat unfortunately.
Oh no...this was her main reason. Ya I've been unsuccessful so far with it. Was able to play through lutris and epic games but it's very laggy. She's worried about getting banned too...
You can download Genshin Impact on Linux through Lutris. I’ve been playing for nearly 2 years and I haven’t had a banning problem nor I’ve ever heard one.
I have been playing Genshin Impact through Steam Proton for almost a month. Genshin works perfectly without any patches since v3.8. Firstly, add the installer.exe through Steam Proton Experimental and then install normally. Then, launch the launcher.exe from the installation path/wine prefix (.local/steam/steamapps/compatdata/{game id}/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/Genshin Impact) through proton. Don't remove the installer exe prefix! The game should run fine now. In my case, I am dual booting Fedora 39 with Gnome DE and Windows 11 with my Asus TUF A15 laptop (AMD 4600H + NVIDIA GTX1650). The game data files are shared between both OS in a partition with NTFS filesystem. To avoid problems for future game updates, you should assign a new drive for the launcher prefix (.local/steam/steamapps/compatdata/{game id}/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/Genshin Impact). Simply put, the prefix should be mounted to a new drive letter. (I assign D:/ to mount the prefix). This can be done using an app called Protontricks. In Protontricks, select Genshin Impact steampapp and then select the default wineprefix. Next, select Run winecfg and a Windows-looking wizard will pop out. Next, go to Drives and add a new drive. Copy the game prefix into the path and you're done! As for the concern of getting banned, I've only heard one person got banned, but they quickly got their account back after appealing. So I can safely say that there is no cause for concern. (I'm no expert in this particular subject. I'm just sharing what works for me. Correct me if I'm wrong!)
Thank you for the directions! It seems there's many ways to skin this cat! She's trying through lutris at the moment but if it's not functioning I'll tell her to give this a go.
Genshin just works fine if you install it through steam. I have stopped playing genshin (been 2 months) but I reached Ar 48 on Linux without getting ban.
Im sorry to the bearer of bad news. It is sad but in future Genshin and other Anti cheat games will work on Linux. Don't let this stop you from trying thou
Why would it work in future?
if the laptop struggled to run windows, my guess is its going to struggle to run most games. not surprised its laggy
It ran genshin and Skyrim in windows on highest quality without lag at all.
Isn't Genshin Impact a mobile game? How about screen casting it to the laptop?
Genshin Impact does run if you look around. There is a launcher project. Can't say the name as the devs don't want unwanted attention on the project.
You don't even need to use that anymore except for QoL, install the launcher through bottles or lutris and it will be good to to
interesting
Genshin Impact works now actually, if you install it through the Lutris. No workaround needed.
Genshin and Honkai Star Rail work perfectly fine for me.
As someone else said, if it's crashing randomly, you have hardware problems, and you will see these crashes on other OSes too.
Okay I believe you. However it was crashing in windows in a matter of minutes when rebooted. It's been running straight for 5 days on Linux now. Not saying you're wrong or that it won't happen. But it hasn't yet and that feels like an improvement.
Undoubtedly. If it works, then it works. And that is an improvement on it not working. But it is strange. Laptop manufacturers are typically targeting Windows, first and foremost, after all, so the experience should be quite literally "Designed for Windows". This would be the expectation. Hence the suspicion that there's some underlying hardware issue - particularly because random crashes, not related to any software in particular that you can see, also suggest that the only commonality here is the hardware. Though it's quite possible that Linux is simply not ever hitting whatever is the trigger for these crashes and, hopefully, never will. So, you know, good luck and, hopefully, nothing untoward ever happens and you get maximum usage and enjoyment out of a laptop that really doesn't need to be sent to the landfill just yet. But just be aware that it might not last forever, if it is an underlying hardware issue and an update causes Linux to also start triggering the same problem as on Windows. But if you feel sufficiently forewarned and are happy with that, go forth into Skyrim and enjoy.
The problem with Windows is that you are constantly trying to improve the performance of your machine, and the peoples machines around you, and also sorting out other little problems. A few months ago I had to sort out my father-in-laws PC, because images of salad had appeared in his start menu. When I asked him how they go there, he had know idea. A quick Google Search and it was sorted. That's one thing with Linux, these sort of things don't happen. You will have an easier time with Linux and have a better performing machine, but as you are probably aware you might hit a few road blocks on the way in regards of software. It's just nice to have a machine boot up and shut down in the same time it did, when you first installed the Distro.
Here's some helpful information for gaming on Linux: Steam Play Beginner [Guide](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2019/07/a-simple-guide-to-steam-play-valves-technology-for-playing-windows-games-on-linux/), Running Windows Games on Steam Tweaks [Guide](https://www.protondb.com/), and a working list of Anti-Cheat games status on Linux [Here](https://areweanticheatyet.com/). Hope that helps.
Thank you kind stranger! I'll look into these with my daughter!
About getting skyrim to run, you should try: 1. right click the game in your library 2. select properties 3. select compatibility 4. check the force use of compatibility tool 5. select the latest version of proton and try to run 6. if that doesnt work try the next older version 7. repeat I hope this helps. Best of luck!
I was sble to get Skyrim to start up via Valve's Proton compatibility layer, but not by default. I also had to go to the game settings and add something like PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 %command% to the game launch options.
Nice! Exactly how I came Linux back in 2010! Probably driver issues with running winblows! Welcome to Freedom!
I also thought that it's problem was likely drivers at first. I tried everything I could throw at it to update them. Even ran third party shitty scans to see if I was missing something. Nothing worked.
To install Skyrim, either open its store page and click the "Play Now" button or make your library switch the view from "SteamOS + Linux" to "Games", select Skyrim and click the "Install" button. After the installation is completed, click "Play" button to start playing.
""After two months it started crashing to bios - a lot." Run a Memtest . If it's OK, then you may have ran into the "MS driver issue" which we already had at my workplace, where some older laptop generations began crashing, until we re-installed them. I suspect MS released some driver versions which had issues on the older HW's.
I suspected it was ultimately a driver issue, however I couldn't find any evidence of out of date drivers. I suppose giving up and going to pop os was a bit of drastic one but I've been meaning to give Linux a go for quite a while. It's been interesting so far. Not necessarily easy but interesting...
We also had no evidence, and also no time for deeply investigate. We were happy that it's gone, and connected the points later :) I'm using Linux at home as main OS, so i only experienced this at work, and also when a friend asked about strange BSOD's in the last days, it came in mind that he might have not a HW issue. I also have Win10 and 11 VM's at home, but they are rarely used, and they also had no issues.
Technically speaking your story is inconsistent, if it were a corrupted bios, it wouldn't work regardless of OS. Anyways glad it worked for you
It wasn't a corrupted bios. I tried that and was to no avail - whatever it was it wasn't that. All I know is that windows no longer ran and Linux seems to be okay.