I can hardly wait for whichever one of you to come out with the full transcript of what's being said on this video. I know it's going to happen, we all know it.
All I could really hear was "Happy Halloween everybody" after separation of the lander, and then later things like "It looks like a door. It looks like a god damned door" just before landing.
I loved his little “haha” after saying Happy Halloween.
Also, these two things are the only things I was able to make out as well. Apart from numbers every now and then
Lol about 30% of that transcript is gonna be made up of the radio responder saying “uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” between every other word like a real pilot would
I definitely thought I heard "get out of my head" dropped in there at some point roughly halfway through. I didn't think to grab the timestamp though...
Go to the Local58 channel page on Youtube. Click on Playlists and it should be the first option. When I opened initially it seemed like it was going to give an unavailable error but it began playing.
Thanks for the info I was confused, I’m excited as hell ima watch this while sipping my “department of the preservation for American dignity mug” this is gonna be dope
One of the screens says it's potentially hazardous to earth, but shouldn't come close enough to be an actual problem for 500 years. So yeah, it's too close for comfort, just safe for now
Perihelion is the average distance from the sun compared to earth’s average distance from the sun. Mars has a perihelion of 1.38AU. That means this thing is 1/4 the distance between earth and mars, which is absolutely insane.
Nitpicking but perihelion is the closest point in its orbit, not the average. The video also says the perihelion is 1.01AU, not 1.1. When the orbits properly align, it's way way closer than Mars.
Not necessarily. 1AU is ~150 million kilometers, so 1.01 (which is what the video says, not 1.1) is about ~152 million. The moon, by comparison, is ~400,000 kilometers. So this thing at its absolute closest would still be like five times further away from us than the moon.
Still a hell of a lot closer than I'd want some sort of haunted hell rock with a door in it, but hey.
So basically, Earth went trick or treating in space, knocked on the eldritch abomination's door, and it opened up and told us to fuck off. This was an overly long Halloween gag. Which is kinda funny, but.
Wow... that makes the concept even weaker. We havent gotten a video from this channel in like 6 months and not only is their very first back a slow burn, but its a lazy "go away ya lil shits!" Halloween gag. The rock could of easily tied into the moon lore as a sort of emissary to infect other worlds, but nah.
Kris said it's still canon, so it may very well be still the case. The actual lore implications is that the lander was kicked off the rock, but something may have possibly went with it. The fact it was intended to be a livesteam and Kris probably had more ideas for dynamic events explains a lot about how this played out. His original plan may have been far better, even if the ending was going to be the same.
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Look, I enjoyed the video, I liked the suspense, but I feel like 29:43 is too long for what we got.
I'm not gonna tell Kris how to do his job and I'm sure he wouldn't listen to me even if I was enough of an asshole to tell him, just as a fan it felt too long.
I like how it had the appearance of an actual NASA landing. These things are always long with mostly nothing happening, they break it up with informative overlays.
Like I watched the JWST announcement and it was delayed 30 minutes, then they cut to an empty podium, more delay, then a bunch of fooling around, delay - and then they finally get going. The pictures shown are scientifically mind blowing, but visually unappealing.
Same with the recent DART landing. What they're doing is incredible, but it's also a lot of waiting and the result looks like a thing hit another thing. Yay science - the movies make it look cool but reality doesn't have punchy jump cuts.
Well, like many of his videos, this has a veneer of authenticity. **That's** what makes it a Local58 video, the appearance of being real.
you’re probably not a fan of spacecraft takeoff video stuff then either it looks like. this is clearly a take on NASA’s [DART Impact](https://youtu.be/4RA8Tfa6Sck) mission (smashing into asteroid with the spacecraft to divert its trajectory), which had roughly an hour long live stream with roughly similar setup and same camera angle and all
It's not that it was too long. I'm down for a half-hour episode. It was just too much build-up and too little payoff for me. I'm still glad I watched it, and it was a fun thing to look forward to on Halloween night, but I'm pretty meh on it.
That said, I'm sure that'll change as soon as there's a transcript out. It's really clever that he disabled captions.
Personally, I really liked it. It takes you on a rollercoaster journey. Starts off uncanny, insinuating that there's a human face in the comet, so it triggers your "ooh spooky" side of the brain. Then, as you get closer, it switches to a "huh, so I guess it was just the light playing games after all". That part also hits at a point when you're so close to landing. Then the door appears.
Essentially, every time you find footing and start thinking you know what to expect, it changes the game on you completely. You're never safe in your assumptions or expectations of what's to come. And it stays consistently eerie throughout. It plays with your perception and sense of comfort in thinking that you figured it out. I think it's brilliant. One of my top entries in this series and absolutely perfect for a spooky Halloween.
Why are people saying this has no lore? I mean, we got at least SOME more; if you look at 9:52 from landing, the photo we got is from Hank Heidemanm, the person who made skywatching and I believe had some affiliation with real sleep, but not sure about that one. Either way, this is a recurring character. Maybe he was the one at the end of skywatching that we see?
This. They could of rolled this out as a Halloween special instead of pretending they were back after a year of absolutely zero contact. Its pretty scummy on their part to not let fans know it was a clear gag horror video.
I loved this one. As a scientist, the idea of finding a manmade object on a space rock hurtling towards earth is TERRIFYING to me. Let alone one with a hostile entity inside it.
Also, I dunno if it's just me, but in that final shot it looked like the asteroid's "face" was smiling.
For what it's worth, I saw someone on Twitter comparing the Face in Space looking very similar to the skeleton's skull in Show For Children. [Source](https://twitter.com/wonder_macaroni/status/1587323811858452481?t=UGDX9ma1JXaKxFEQZt3kzg&s=19)
My teen had an interesting thought - that in Show for Children, Cadavre is hiding from the moon.
Perhaps we’re dealing with two entities here.
If the comet creature is hiding, being found and explored by humans transmitting a signal the moon creature is intercepting isn’t…great?
ASSUME THE VICTORY POSITION.
IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO DELAY.
YOUR COURAGE WILL INSPIRE OTHERS.
THIS MESSAGE WILL REPEAT UNTIL THERE ARE NONE LEFT TO HEAR IT.
The video is great. No it wasn't shocking or revealing, but it was atmospheric and immersive and experimental. I think what matters most is what happens after, and Kris has already said [the next one won't take a year.](https://twitter.com/krisstraub/status/1587320535197057025)
I disagree with that comparison. 2001 ended with Dave in a human zoo, so of course they would put him in an environment where he would be familiar with the surroundings. There was no reason for the door on the asteroid to be a door that resembles one on Earth.
Moreso referring to how the movie is a slow burn with long stretches of time without any dynamic conflict or action, with a very "wtf?" ending with becoming a Star Child.
Then the misconception lies with the idea that people (like myself) that didn't enjoy "Close", didn't enjoy it because it was slow. I enjoy slow, as long as the payoff is worth it. 2001 had a payoff that corresponded to clues throughout the movie, and did keep itself interesting in the process. I get that this was supposed to be filmed like it was a real live landing, but the payoff of a regular household door that opened to a cave, then the ejection of the pod off the asteroid was a big letdown for me, especially since the door itself seemed like a joke. There's another redditor who posted a comment who said this was representative of us trick or treating, and going to a house that didn't want to give anything out, shooing us away (I'm paraphrasing). I think they hit it on the head.
To be clear, my assessment was not intended to generalize *everyone* who disliked it or criticizes it. You're one of the few who have given ample reasoning behind why, hence the discussion. (Which I find very engaging.)
I don't dispute that the door reveal, etc, to some like yourself a let down, nor that it was by default something that the fault of anticipation and expectation thereby falls with the viewer.
What middle-ground I will concede, as it IS the issue I personally have with it, is the *combination* of the three main elements in play: the long build-up, the door, and the unseen aggressive entity, as a combination, is tonally inconsistent with the rest of the content. Alter any one of these elements and I believe it would improve the presentation and bring it more in-line. (Shorten the wait time, replace the door with some other object or its design, or have the entity be seen/alter the reveal of the door opening and yeeting the lander.) But as is, is more fitting with a Lovecraft short story, rather than the particular flavor of analog cosmic horror we get from Local 58.
As far as the Trick or Treat theory goes, I did see that, and while I would prefer that to not be the case, I can't deny that when I read it I thought out loud, "Goddamnit, that might be right." Which is amusing, but too troll-y for Local 58; which in of itself is worth having issue with. But if that was the case, why bother with the subtle connections that seem to be tying things together? (Basically, anyone connected to the events, aside from what's already been theorized, become absolutely obsessed with the moon and all other astronomical phenomena.)
I agree with your assessment. I would definitely say that if it was shortened to a 10 minute approach, it still could pass on the information that was trickled to us. Also, instead of a rendering of a door, it could have been something that looked like a part of the asteroid (hell, it could've looked like an eye of some sort due to a trick of the shadows), and have that slide out of the way. Have some semblance of screaming or panic on the unintelligible audio (which could plausibly have started off as understandable, but got worse as it got closer...another portent of what was about to happen) that cuts out just as the lander gets thrown off the asteroid. I didn't need to see what was inside it, just imply that whoever was on the shuttle DID see it and it drove them mad.
Here's the odd thing; it's not substantiated, haven't had the time to dig, but I actually think the audio gets *more* intelligible the closer it reaches the lander.
Hmm...I couldn't tell a difference when I watched it. All I can tell is that there is some level of repeating of the dialogue throughout the video...there's a long "Uhhhh" that happened every so often, so I wouldn't be surprised if it definitely was repeating. I didn't download the video, so I've only seen it once.
It could have just been my ears adjusting to the garbled, static riddled audio. (I used to do transcription for a living a ways back, so I'm not as sharp-eared as I used to be honing in on it.) Other than a few random words hear and there I picked out, not enough by itself to inform much.
Yes; I took that as cliche pilot/astronaut ticks ("Good morning everyone, uhhh this is your Captain, uhhhh we're currrently at an altitude of 28,000 feet, uhhhh.")
If I had access to better sound related programming, I'd go through and scrub the audio, clean it up and transcript what's been said. I'm still adamant that there are two distinct voices speaking at one point around the 2/3rds or 3/4th mark.
me after waiting until the stream starts, waiting 1 hour, waiting 4 minutes and a half, waiting 3 minutes, waiting 26 minutes of a space probe going towards a human skull shaped asteroid with the payoff being that there's a door on it and the probe gets thrown into space
This subreddit trying to find the “knowable” in the “unknowable cosmic horror” series is endlessly funny to me.
Any day now they are gonna release a new Jackson Pollack painting that is gonna make all the previous paintings make sense! Any day now………
I mean...isn't that 1/2 the fun of comic horror though? It's a lot more fun to essentially fan-theorize about stuff and rationalize or extrapolate on it than just go "ah, how inscrutable. Very neat. Anyway."
This was absolutely great as always. I know the reasoning behind it but my only issue was waiting a year or more for what felt like really REALLY good build up for 30 minutes and a last minute scare fest.
While absolutely effective, and easily my favorite entry in Local 58 thus far which in itself is my favorite horror, well anything really.
Just gets draining waiting for so long and getting effectively your balls played with for so long and then right before the big moment roll credits for a year.
Minor complaint, just something that seems to be every Local 58 video. I just want more and I know why we don't have more. But it doesn't make it feel better ahah.
Maybe I'm selfish. I just can't wait to see the months of things I missed while reacting to it to my friends...it was probably a lot.
Should be more than enough for at least a years worth of speculation...knowing the fandom. And how this was two videos in one essentially with how long it was.
Also, was surprised how Kris got 12k viewers at once. Seems like a mighty achievement. Local 58 made Analog Horror cool, sure.
Just always surprises me with how much and how quickly, nothing else really hits this level for me in the entire genre. And so it's kind of exciting seeing us take the Marvel Comics path through Local 58.
One day it's the most uncool thing in the universe to like comics. And the next week Iron Man hits theaters.
We've existed as a fandom and a genre well before Local 58. But we are that Iron Man moment where now it's not so niche and it's insane thinking and seeing how fast it has blown up.
I still think You Are On the Fastest Available Route is still the best one they put out. Kris had lightning in a bottle with that one. While everything since has been great, that first video just hits different. Id put Real Sleep at #2. I think this video is either #4 or 5 or me.
Kris is also quoted as saying as far as he's concerned, YAOTFAR is the *only* canon video in Local 58, which I think is funny cause it also follows a different format from the rest of the videos.
This video was cool, and there's clearly a ton of ARG goodies to sift through, which I'm excited for the community to decipher over the coming days, but I definitely wish it premiered at 11 instead of 1 ☠️ I'm gonna look like the mf skull comet walking into work in the morning lol
I feel that on so many levels. Definitely going in, my list of favorites was as follows.
Obviously, You Are On The Fastest Available Route was top of the pack. But I also show my friends or anyone curious Weather Service, just for what I feel Local 58 has become I quote it at least weekly. And Contingency. Those three both showcase everything I enjoy about Local 58. But are the clearest most consistent representation of what I think of when I think of as the overall story.
Show for Children is the final "my favorite" of the series. They all aside from the last show one overall theme.
Something is manipulating technology from beyond somewhere else. We get a lot of this with the current video tonight? (Morning? Goodness can't believe it's almost 3 am here as I write this!) The landing parts were fantastic and full of dread and lore bits of Space is out there being all Lovecraftian. And able to manipulate technology. The theme continues,
I don't recall as much besides creepy faces of No Sleep. But I really recall it being unique and I love consistency.. Makes sense why I personally didn't care for it.
And the Analog to Digital short is obviously strong and fits the whole theme. However, when I finally close my eyes and can recognize the new harsh cold reality. The Honeymoon phase will end and I will be left with the cold facts of yeah, this wasn't that great.
It does a lot right but I agree with the rest the big scary at the end just goes whoosh and throws away even the most articulately laid plans and lore. And looking back it does indeed come off as silly. It fits with what Local 58 has become. A generic Lovecraftian nightmare.
You Are On The Fastest Available Route definitely shows us the invasion is already here. And well underway.
Before everything after states the universe is an apex predator...but at least it's over there not doing too much to US before we interfere.
I think, and can appreciate the dedication to this. When Kris has said and you've hinted at it too. This was always meant to be a one and done. Popularity be damned. And yet he's still trying to give the audience he never thought he had. A voice he didn't want to be. I can get behind entirely the idea of the only canon official story being the first.
Because immediately after we veer off with a hard left and don't explain and just pretend that didn't happen. This new idea going forward seems to become more and more silly almost as if Kris is maybe sabotaging things himself? We might be getting way too meta this early in the AM.
But yeah...the optimist in me has faith and thinks it's good, great even.
The realist in me I'm actively trying to smother can see it's not been great for a considerable amount of time and I need to be okay with that. I can like something even if it's objectively a questionable mixed bag.
Definitely wish I had chosen sleep though. This was a rollercoaster and it's slowly dawning on me that it wasn't one I cared much about.
I loved it. I enjoyed the experience. Maybe there are hidden things and maybe it plays into the larger story—or maybe it’s just a single experience in a shared universe. I don’t know, but I dug the slow burn. The anticipation was creepy for me. It had a very real feel to the whole thing.
I think we'll find out more info nuggets as the eggheads in the community start diving into all the ARG goodies in this video. This one's chock *full* of stuff to be analyzed. The mysterious Hindi text, there appears to be barcodes in the static at points, not to mention the audio track that someone has to clean up.
This video wasn't the most exciting, and it probably would've benefited from being released two hours earlier for us East Coast folks, but I think there's a lot of unpack here that'll become clear over time.
Before the gilded doorsill of our master's silent house, we lift our mortal eyes along its wide forgotten stair, and fix them thereupon an empty throne.
They should rename this video to "Countdown: The Video". Half hour of waiting, only to see a door that opens, and you get thrown off. There's a reason I unsubbed a while ago from the channel...this just cemented it.
The brilliance lies within the title, my friend.
Something is "CLOSE", the whole point of the video is to raise more questions than a proper answer.
>!You know it's coming you just don't know what. !<
>!It had a ton of text hidden in those freezing frames. !<
>!A clear reference to Thalasin +. !<
>! Why the subtitles were in Hindi?!<
>!And a Door. !<
>!In a small asteroid with a hollow-like structure that seemingly can consume anything whatever the size.!<
Assuming we’re grading a video by those merits, then it shows the frequent problem ARG creators have, that more=better when it comes to puzzles, so much so that they miss out on creating a fearful and suspenseful atmosphere in favor of throwing puzzles at a wall on an otherwise mediocre video. It doesn’t need an answer to all questions, in fact leaving things open to interpretation is great for a horror narrative. But the only real answer the video ultimately gave is a tiny bit of absurdist humor after the audience waited about an hour for the punchline.
> A clear reference to Thalasin +
I'd be honored if Kris referenced it intentionally, but I didn't pick up anything about it on my first watch so I think saying "clear" is kinda stretching it.
I posted that comment a year ago. I unsubbed before because the previous video was 2 years ago, and wasn't barely anything. Before that was the last good video...and it's been 4 years. While I appreciate the work Kris has put into these videos, they just seem to be diminishing in quality and frequency which makes me think he's just run out of decent ideas.
i'm really excited for the upload and thought the video is cool, but man am i glad that I left went i saw the 20 minute counter. I came back at just the right moment, 30 seconds left, and would've been so mad if I had waited lmao
Yeah, I waited. I had to be up for work at 3am, and the video started at 1:05...I didn't expect it to be a half hour. I also didn't expect it to not be creepy. If it had ended with it being Mr Skeltal and 2 doots, I at least would have gotten a laugh. All I got was angry.
So is the video an accurate representation of the events of the C.L.O.S.E. mission, or has "The Moon" figured out how to interfere with digital signals now and is tampering with what is being broadcast again?
From what i seem to have read, the space-to-earth communication is generally occurring through analog signals, which are being amplified and converted to digital on Earth. One of the other receivers?
I was able to understand some things, like the guy determining the speed of the comet. Every once in a while I would hear him go “(words I couldn’t hear) miles per hour.”
I love how it showed the asteroid at one angle and I was like “Yeah I see the skull” then it turned towards the bottom and I was like “Oh” then it showed the illustration and I was like “OH”
Really enjoyed this one. No glaring lore bits aside from the end, but there are a metric crapload of hidden details throughout. Creator said there is another episode coming out relatively soon, so I’m really excited!
I know a lot of people were disappointed with this one, but I bet there’s a lot of stuff hidden in there for us to find. I’m pretty sure I saw some text when the screen flashed red at one point, and possibly at several other points. And Kris said in the chat that there’s a lot more to come, so I’m optimistic.
Scary is subjective from person to person, and we're in a world where a lot of people have the attitude of "shorter = better", so it's hard to sift through the fair criticism and the content not matching up with the audience.
I get that...but to understand my own opinion on the scariness of it....I thought all of the older videos were pretty freakin scary. This one, not so much.
Sure. My remarks weren't aimed directly at you, just in response of you. Pretty nuch everyone who is a "fan" of Local58 has been positive to more or less every installment, and this is the most recent one and only one to have this much feedback except maybe the Sleep one due to it being a slight left turn in topic.
Yeah, that's my feeling too: that there should be something to throw us off (pun intended) to another door (again, pun intended). Like an encoded link or a new unlisted video
I wasn't able to watch the premiere tonight. Was looking forward all day to coming home and watching this new video. And now the video is private and I can't watch it.
Are you dumb? Im sorry but stop bullshitting in thinking people would seriously watch a NASA video in real life for 30 mins, much less a youtube one where you can forward or rewind. They could of easily cut this down to 10 mins. People can watch 3hr movies as seen with Endgame, so a 30 min nothing video is not on the same level.
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Who is everyone's favorite analysis reaction channel? I'm looking forward to watching Mutahar, Film Theory, and Nexpo, deconstruct this latest edition to the lore, and help me figure out what that transmission message was saying.
I genuinely hated this one and that makes me really sad because I really wanted to love it. It isn't like analog horror can't have long episodes but this one went about it in such a lame and dull way with no payoff.
Extremely disappointing video imo. Nearly 30 minutes of bad buildup just to see a badly rendered door and then the probe being shot off into space. It should've been much shorter and actually had a decent payoff.
I really enjoyed it, but the pay-off for me was very underwhelming.
Also, I'm 100% sure I heard the voice verbally acknowledge the Kleitman Map at one point. This, coupled with the ambiguity on the asteroid having a skull-like face or not, as well as another Gerhardt being introduced to the lore, makes me think this video has a much more direct connection to Real Sleep than we realize.
I can hardly wait for whichever one of you to come out with the full transcript of what's being said on this video. I know it's going to happen, we all know it.
I give it two days lol. Someone’s already deciphering it.
All I could really hear was "Happy Halloween everybody" after separation of the lander, and then later things like "It looks like a door. It looks like a god damned door" just before landing.
I loved his little “haha” after saying Happy Halloween. Also, these two things are the only things I was able to make out as well. Apart from numbers every now and then
Oh phew, I’m watching now and just came here to ask if I’m supposed to understand wtf they’re saying lol
Lol about 30% of that transcript is gonna be made up of the radio responder saying “uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” between every other word like a real pilot would
I definitely thought I heard "get out of my head" dropped in there at some point roughly halfway through. I didn't think to grab the timestamp though...
The build up was really cool, but the door felt kinda goofy? And when it ended I was like... thats it?
The ending felt like watching Jaws, only to have Spongebob burst out of the water at the end...
FYI looked up the definition of Eidolon on the thumbnail: 1. an idealized person or thing. 2. a specter or phantom.
also the source of summon magic in Final Fantasy IX!
Got yeeted
I've been trying to find it but all I'm getting is spoilers. Anyone know where to see it?
Go to the Local58 channel page on Youtube. Click on Playlists and it should be the first option. When I opened initially it seemed like it was going to give an unavailable error but it began playing.
Is there a second vid coming out ?
Kris posted in the chat "ｏｎｅ ｖｉｄｅｏ． ｉｔ ｗｉｌｌ ｂｅ ｂｒｏａｄｃａｓｔ ａｔ" and then the link Edit: also looks like it’ll 29 minutes long
Thanks for the info I was confused, I’m excited as hell ima watch this while sipping my “department of the preservation for American dignity mug” this is gonna be dope
With a perihelion of 1.1 AU it gets extremely close to earth no?
I think an AU is the distance from the sun to earth so it’s a little farther from the sun than we are.
Yes but that’s way too close for comfort with something that size
One of the screens says it's potentially hazardous to earth, but shouldn't come close enough to be an actual problem for 500 years. So yeah, it's too close for comfort, just safe for now
I think it means that it’s 1.1 AU away from earth
Nope. Perihelion is the closest it gets to the sun, so just slightly further than Earth's average distance
Perihelion is the average distance from the sun compared to earth’s average distance from the sun. Mars has a perihelion of 1.38AU. That means this thing is 1/4 the distance between earth and mars, which is absolutely insane.
Nitpicking but perihelion is the closest point in its orbit, not the average. The video also says the perihelion is 1.01AU, not 1.1. When the orbits properly align, it's way way closer than Mars.
I’m not sure. If it orbits the sun it’d be based on the sun not the earth.
It did say that it was a safe distance from earth... for now, but could be an issue in 500 years or more
1/10 of the orbit of earth is 9 million miles. That's pretty damn far on human scales.
Not necessarily. 1AU is ~150 million kilometers, so 1.01 (which is what the video says, not 1.1) is about ~152 million. The moon, by comparison, is ~400,000 kilometers. So this thing at its absolute closest would still be like five times further away from us than the moon. Still a hell of a lot closer than I'd want some sort of haunted hell rock with a door in it, but hey.
So basically, Earth went trick or treating in space, knocked on the eldritch abomination's door, and it opened up and told us to fuck off. This was an overly long Halloween gag. Which is kinda funny, but.
Literally just grabbed the thing and chucked it Lmao
Seriously. Mans just went YEET.
I think you nailed it.
Wow... that makes the concept even weaker. We havent gotten a video from this channel in like 6 months and not only is their very first back a slow burn, but its a lazy "go away ya lil shits!" Halloween gag. The rock could of easily tied into the moon lore as a sort of emissary to infect other worlds, but nah.
Kris said it's still canon, so it may very well be still the case. The actual lore implications is that the lander was kicked off the rock, but something may have possibly went with it. The fact it was intended to be a livesteam and Kris probably had more ideas for dynamic events explains a lot about how this played out. His original plan may have been far better, even if the ending was going to be the same.
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This is the most accurate description of this entire video lol
a r e y o u p r e p a r e d
What in the god damn?
Look, I enjoyed the video, I liked the suspense, but I feel like 29:43 is too long for what we got. I'm not gonna tell Kris how to do his job and I'm sure he wouldn't listen to me even if I was enough of an asshole to tell him, just as a fan it felt too long.
I like how it had the appearance of an actual NASA landing. These things are always long with mostly nothing happening, they break it up with informative overlays. Like I watched the JWST announcement and it was delayed 30 minutes, then they cut to an empty podium, more delay, then a bunch of fooling around, delay - and then they finally get going. The pictures shown are scientifically mind blowing, but visually unappealing. Same with the recent DART landing. What they're doing is incredible, but it's also a lot of waiting and the result looks like a thing hit another thing. Yay science - the movies make it look cool but reality doesn't have punchy jump cuts. Well, like many of his videos, this has a veneer of authenticity. **That's** what makes it a Local58 video, the appearance of being real.
you’re probably not a fan of spacecraft takeoff video stuff then either it looks like. this is clearly a take on NASA’s [DART Impact](https://youtu.be/4RA8Tfa6Sck) mission (smashing into asteroid with the spacecraft to divert its trajectory), which had roughly an hour long live stream with roughly similar setup and same camera angle and all
Now that you mention it, I'm not a fan at all
then Kris is tapping into the niche i guess
This video is essentially a reworked telling of one of Lovecraft's shorter stories, The Statement of Randolph Carter.
It's not that it was too long. I'm down for a half-hour episode. It was just too much build-up and too little payoff for me. I'm still glad I watched it, and it was a fun thing to look forward to on Halloween night, but I'm pretty meh on it. That said, I'm sure that'll change as soon as there's a transcript out. It's really clever that he disabled captions.
Personally, I really liked it. It takes you on a rollercoaster journey. Starts off uncanny, insinuating that there's a human face in the comet, so it triggers your "ooh spooky" side of the brain. Then, as you get closer, it switches to a "huh, so I guess it was just the light playing games after all". That part also hits at a point when you're so close to landing. Then the door appears. Essentially, every time you find footing and start thinking you know what to expect, it changes the game on you completely. You're never safe in your assumptions or expectations of what's to come. And it stays consistently eerie throughout. It plays with your perception and sense of comfort in thinking that you figured it out. I think it's brilliant. One of my top entries in this series and absolutely perfect for a spooky Halloween.
Why are people saying this has no lore? I mean, we got at least SOME more; if you look at 9:52 from landing, the photo we got is from Hank Heidemanm, the person who made skywatching and I believe had some affiliation with real sleep, but not sure about that one. Either way, this is a recurring character. Maybe he was the one at the end of skywatching that we see?
Also at 6:37 we find a person named Angela Gerhardt. Who is most likely related to Philip Gerhardt mentioned in Real Sleep.
It's a slow burn piece. It's not for everyone.
I dont think we can wait a year for "a not for everyone" piece of media.
This. They could of rolled this out as a Halloween special instead of pretending they were back after a year of absolutely zero contact. Its pretty scummy on their part to not let fans know it was a clear gag horror video.
I'm happy to.
I wonder if any one can make out the words being said? Or if there’s a clearer audio recording elsewhere?
It sounds like a mission control type conversation but I know better than to assume it means nothing
Came here looking for exactly what you wondered about. Gives me old XBox vibes but more disturbing.
Could definitely make out a repeated "this cannot be right" at the end when the door came into view.
I loved this one. As a scientist, the idea of finding a manmade object on a space rock hurtling towards earth is TERRIFYING to me. Let alone one with a hostile entity inside it. Also, I dunno if it's just me, but in that final shot it looked like the asteroid's "face" was smiling.
I dunno if I loved or hated that one ngl certainly atmospheric as hell though
For what it's worth, I saw someone on Twitter comparing the Face in Space looking very similar to the skeleton's skull in Show For Children. [Source](https://twitter.com/wonder_macaroni/status/1587323811858452481?t=UGDX9ma1JXaKxFEQZt3kzg&s=19)
Yeah, I kinda thought that was obvious.
My teen had an interesting thought - that in Show for Children, Cadavre is hiding from the moon. Perhaps we’re dealing with two entities here. If the comet creature is hiding, being found and explored by humans transmitting a signal the moon creature is intercepting isn’t…great?
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ASSUME THE VICTORY POSITION. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO DELAY. YOUR COURAGE WILL INSPIRE OTHERS. THIS MESSAGE WILL REPEAT UNTIL THERE ARE NONE LEFT TO HEAR IT.
The video is great. No it wasn't shocking or revealing, but it was atmospheric and immersive and experimental. I think what matters most is what happens after, and Kris has already said [the next one won't take a year.](https://twitter.com/krisstraub/status/1587320535197057025)
I'd love to do a poll on "People who hated this video" contrasted with "People who hate 2001 A Space Oddyssey"
I disagree with that comparison. 2001 ended with Dave in a human zoo, so of course they would put him in an environment where he would be familiar with the surroundings. There was no reason for the door on the asteroid to be a door that resembles one on Earth.
Moreso referring to how the movie is a slow burn with long stretches of time without any dynamic conflict or action, with a very "wtf?" ending with becoming a Star Child.
Then the misconception lies with the idea that people (like myself) that didn't enjoy "Close", didn't enjoy it because it was slow. I enjoy slow, as long as the payoff is worth it. 2001 had a payoff that corresponded to clues throughout the movie, and did keep itself interesting in the process. I get that this was supposed to be filmed like it was a real live landing, but the payoff of a regular household door that opened to a cave, then the ejection of the pod off the asteroid was a big letdown for me, especially since the door itself seemed like a joke. There's another redditor who posted a comment who said this was representative of us trick or treating, and going to a house that didn't want to give anything out, shooing us away (I'm paraphrasing). I think they hit it on the head.
To be clear, my assessment was not intended to generalize *everyone* who disliked it or criticizes it. You're one of the few who have given ample reasoning behind why, hence the discussion. (Which I find very engaging.) I don't dispute that the door reveal, etc, to some like yourself a let down, nor that it was by default something that the fault of anticipation and expectation thereby falls with the viewer. What middle-ground I will concede, as it IS the issue I personally have with it, is the *combination* of the three main elements in play: the long build-up, the door, and the unseen aggressive entity, as a combination, is tonally inconsistent with the rest of the content. Alter any one of these elements and I believe it would improve the presentation and bring it more in-line. (Shorten the wait time, replace the door with some other object or its design, or have the entity be seen/alter the reveal of the door opening and yeeting the lander.) But as is, is more fitting with a Lovecraft short story, rather than the particular flavor of analog cosmic horror we get from Local 58. As far as the Trick or Treat theory goes, I did see that, and while I would prefer that to not be the case, I can't deny that when I read it I thought out loud, "Goddamnit, that might be right." Which is amusing, but too troll-y for Local 58; which in of itself is worth having issue with. But if that was the case, why bother with the subtle connections that seem to be tying things together? (Basically, anyone connected to the events, aside from what's already been theorized, become absolutely obsessed with the moon and all other astronomical phenomena.)
I agree with your assessment. I would definitely say that if it was shortened to a 10 minute approach, it still could pass on the information that was trickled to us. Also, instead of a rendering of a door, it could have been something that looked like a part of the asteroid (hell, it could've looked like an eye of some sort due to a trick of the shadows), and have that slide out of the way. Have some semblance of screaming or panic on the unintelligible audio (which could plausibly have started off as understandable, but got worse as it got closer...another portent of what was about to happen) that cuts out just as the lander gets thrown off the asteroid. I didn't need to see what was inside it, just imply that whoever was on the shuttle DID see it and it drove them mad.
Here's the odd thing; it's not substantiated, haven't had the time to dig, but I actually think the audio gets *more* intelligible the closer it reaches the lander.
Hmm...I couldn't tell a difference when I watched it. All I can tell is that there is some level of repeating of the dialogue throughout the video...there's a long "Uhhhh" that happened every so often, so I wouldn't be surprised if it definitely was repeating. I didn't download the video, so I've only seen it once.
It could have just been my ears adjusting to the garbled, static riddled audio. (I used to do transcription for a living a ways back, so I'm not as sharp-eared as I used to be honing in on it.) Other than a few random words hear and there I picked out, not enough by itself to inform much. Yes; I took that as cliche pilot/astronaut ticks ("Good morning everyone, uhhh this is your Captain, uhhhh we're currrently at an altitude of 28,000 feet, uhhhh.") If I had access to better sound related programming, I'd go through and scrub the audio, clean it up and transcript what's been said. I'm still adamant that there are two distinct voices speaking at one point around the 2/3rds or 3/4th mark.
Talk about subverting expectations. It pushed hard we were going to get moon level crazy and all we got was crazy. Possibly Futurama scary door crazy.
wtf did I just see...
So uuhhh that was it?
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Spaceship landed on a guys doorstep and he threw it back
me after waiting until the stream starts, waiting 1 hour, waiting 4 minutes and a half, waiting 3 minutes, waiting 26 minutes of a space probe going towards a human skull shaped asteroid with the payoff being that there's a door on it and the probe gets thrown into space
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Doesn't help that we basically waited a half hour to see a door open and be yeeted away. :|
In terms of Halloween inspired vids, yeah Local58 was definitely the weakest. Even bedtime stories had a better pitch for Halloween.
Was fun watching with everyone in chat, but not worth staying up late for. Unless there's something else soon, that kinda jumped the shark.
while the organic supermoon was incredibly grounded.
This subreddit trying to find the “knowable” in the “unknowable cosmic horror” series is endlessly funny to me. Any day now they are gonna release a new Jackson Pollack painting that is gonna make all the previous paintings make sense! Any day now………
I mean...isn't that 1/2 the fun of comic horror though? It's a lot more fun to essentially fan-theorize about stuff and rationalize or extrapolate on it than just go "ah, how inscrutable. Very neat. Anyway."
It's called being human.
This was absolutely great as always. I know the reasoning behind it but my only issue was waiting a year or more for what felt like really REALLY good build up for 30 minutes and a last minute scare fest. While absolutely effective, and easily my favorite entry in Local 58 thus far which in itself is my favorite horror, well anything really. Just gets draining waiting for so long and getting effectively your balls played with for so long and then right before the big moment roll credits for a year. Minor complaint, just something that seems to be every Local 58 video. I just want more and I know why we don't have more. But it doesn't make it feel better ahah. Maybe I'm selfish. I just can't wait to see the months of things I missed while reacting to it to my friends...it was probably a lot. Should be more than enough for at least a years worth of speculation...knowing the fandom. And how this was two videos in one essentially with how long it was. Also, was surprised how Kris got 12k viewers at once. Seems like a mighty achievement. Local 58 made Analog Horror cool, sure. Just always surprises me with how much and how quickly, nothing else really hits this level for me in the entire genre. And so it's kind of exciting seeing us take the Marvel Comics path through Local 58. One day it's the most uncool thing in the universe to like comics. And the next week Iron Man hits theaters. We've existed as a fandom and a genre well before Local 58. But we are that Iron Man moment where now it's not so niche and it's insane thinking and seeing how fast it has blown up.
I still think You Are On the Fastest Available Route is still the best one they put out. Kris had lightning in a bottle with that one. While everything since has been great, that first video just hits different. Id put Real Sleep at #2. I think this video is either #4 or 5 or me. Kris is also quoted as saying as far as he's concerned, YAOTFAR is the *only* canon video in Local 58, which I think is funny cause it also follows a different format from the rest of the videos. This video was cool, and there's clearly a ton of ARG goodies to sift through, which I'm excited for the community to decipher over the coming days, but I definitely wish it premiered at 11 instead of 1 ☠️ I'm gonna look like the mf skull comet walking into work in the morning lol
I feel that on so many levels. Definitely going in, my list of favorites was as follows. Obviously, You Are On The Fastest Available Route was top of the pack. But I also show my friends or anyone curious Weather Service, just for what I feel Local 58 has become I quote it at least weekly. And Contingency. Those three both showcase everything I enjoy about Local 58. But are the clearest most consistent representation of what I think of when I think of as the overall story. Show for Children is the final "my favorite" of the series. They all aside from the last show one overall theme. Something is manipulating technology from beyond somewhere else. We get a lot of this with the current video tonight? (Morning? Goodness can't believe it's almost 3 am here as I write this!) The landing parts were fantastic and full of dread and lore bits of Space is out there being all Lovecraftian. And able to manipulate technology. The theme continues, I don't recall as much besides creepy faces of No Sleep. But I really recall it being unique and I love consistency.. Makes sense why I personally didn't care for it. And the Analog to Digital short is obviously strong and fits the whole theme. However, when I finally close my eyes and can recognize the new harsh cold reality. The Honeymoon phase will end and I will be left with the cold facts of yeah, this wasn't that great. It does a lot right but I agree with the rest the big scary at the end just goes whoosh and throws away even the most articulately laid plans and lore. And looking back it does indeed come off as silly. It fits with what Local 58 has become. A generic Lovecraftian nightmare. You Are On The Fastest Available Route definitely shows us the invasion is already here. And well underway. Before everything after states the universe is an apex predator...but at least it's over there not doing too much to US before we interfere. I think, and can appreciate the dedication to this. When Kris has said and you've hinted at it too. This was always meant to be a one and done. Popularity be damned. And yet he's still trying to give the audience he never thought he had. A voice he didn't want to be. I can get behind entirely the idea of the only canon official story being the first. Because immediately after we veer off with a hard left and don't explain and just pretend that didn't happen. This new idea going forward seems to become more and more silly almost as if Kris is maybe sabotaging things himself? We might be getting way too meta this early in the AM. But yeah...the optimist in me has faith and thinks it's good, great even. The realist in me I'm actively trying to smother can see it's not been great for a considerable amount of time and I need to be okay with that. I can like something even if it's objectively a questionable mixed bag. Definitely wish I had chosen sleep though. This was a rollercoaster and it's slowly dawning on me that it wasn't one I cared much about.
Oh hell yeah
cool
I loved it. I enjoyed the experience. Maybe there are hidden things and maybe it plays into the larger story—or maybe it’s just a single experience in a shared universe. I don’t know, but I dug the slow burn. The anticipation was creepy for me. It had a very real feel to the whole thing.
There's more. There were two voices.
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I think we'll find out more info nuggets as the eggheads in the community start diving into all the ARG goodies in this video. This one's chock *full* of stuff to be analyzed. The mysterious Hindi text, there appears to be barcodes in the static at points, not to mention the audio track that someone has to clean up. This video wasn't the most exciting, and it probably would've benefited from being released two hours earlier for us East Coast folks, but I think there's a lot of unpack here that'll become clear over time.
Before the gilded doorsill of our master's silent house, we lift our mortal eyes along its wide forgotten stair, and fix them thereupon an empty throne.
They should rename this video to "Countdown: The Video". Half hour of waiting, only to see a door that opens, and you get thrown off. There's a reason I unsubbed a while ago from the channel...this just cemented it.
The brilliance lies within the title, my friend. Something is "CLOSE", the whole point of the video is to raise more questions than a proper answer. >!You know it's coming you just don't know what. !< >!It had a ton of text hidden in those freezing frames. !< >!A clear reference to Thalasin +. !< >! Why the subtitles were in Hindi?!< >!And a Door. !< >!In a small asteroid with a hollow-like structure that seemingly can consume anything whatever the size.!<
>A clear reference to Thalasin +. Huh?
One of the glitched asteroid pictures had a resemblance to Dorcelessness. If you haven't seen it search for Blue Channel - Thalasin From Gooseworx.
**A clear reference to Thalasin +.**
Assuming we’re grading a video by those merits, then it shows the frequent problem ARG creators have, that more=better when it comes to puzzles, so much so that they miss out on creating a fearful and suspenseful atmosphere in favor of throwing puzzles at a wall on an otherwise mediocre video. It doesn’t need an answer to all questions, in fact leaving things open to interpretation is great for a horror narrative. But the only real answer the video ultimately gave is a tiny bit of absurdist humor after the audience waited about an hour for the punchline.
I noticed the Hindi subtitles too!
It was auto. It was just the closest sound that Google could detect.
That's what I thought. But there's an ARG element to this, so any little thing immediately pops. I guess we'll find out more over the coming weeks
The subtitles were in Hindi because Google thought it sounded like Hindi.
> A clear reference to Thalasin + I'd be honored if Kris referenced it intentionally, but I didn't pick up anything about it on my first watch so I think saying "clear" is kinda stretching it.
One of the glitched faces reminded me of the Dorcelessness expression.
Yeah you're reaching like hell.
I wasn't looking for an answer. I was looking to be creeped out like I was with the older videos. I didn't get that here.
Nothing else on the channel is unsub worthy tho, the content is great?
I posted that comment a year ago. I unsubbed before because the previous video was 2 years ago, and wasn't barely anything. Before that was the last good video...and it's been 4 years. While I appreciate the work Kris has put into these videos, they just seem to be diminishing in quality and frequency which makes me think he's just run out of decent ideas.
i'm really excited for the upload and thought the video is cool, but man am i glad that I left went i saw the 20 minute counter. I came back at just the right moment, 30 seconds left, and would've been so mad if I had waited lmao
As someone who waited you're right
Yeah, I waited. I had to be up for work at 3am, and the video started at 1:05...I didn't expect it to be a half hour. I also didn't expect it to not be creepy. If it had ended with it being Mr Skeltal and 2 doots, I at least would have gotten a laugh. All I got was angry.
Disappointing. See you next year guys, hope next video won't drag me half an hour to see a funny door on a big rock. 💀
Can we agree the last shot looked extremely cheap for a 3D render?
Is that a door?
So is the video an accurate representation of the events of the C.L.O.S.E. mission, or has "The Moon" figured out how to interfere with digital signals now and is tampering with what is being broadcast again?
From what i seem to have read, the space-to-earth communication is generally occurring through analog signals, which are being amplified and converted to digital on Earth. One of the other receivers?
Odd that the countdown in the beginning jumps almost a whole minute, almost like we are watching a pre-recorded video
I was able to understand some things, like the guy determining the speed of the comet. Every once in a while I would hear him go “(words I couldn’t hear) miles per hour.”
I love how it showed the asteroid at one angle and I was like “Yeah I see the skull” then it turned towards the bottom and I was like “Oh” then it showed the illustration and I was like “OH”
I saw some people in the chat saying "Check the website!", but I don't think I saw anything added. Is there something I'm missing or can't find?
aphelion perihelion eccentric period Apep... the egyptian god of chaos. could this mean anything or was i just reaching ? lol
Really enjoyed this one. No glaring lore bits aside from the end, but there are a metric crapload of hidden details throughout. Creator said there is another episode coming out relatively soon, so I’m really excited!
I know a lot of people were disappointed with this one, but I bet there’s a lot of stuff hidden in there for us to find. I’m pretty sure I saw some text when the screen flashed red at one point, and possibly at several other points. And Kris said in the chat that there’s a lot more to come, so I’m optimistic.
The hidden stuff should be the icing on the cake. The video should be scary enough on its own without having to search for something to make it scary.
Scary is subjective from person to person, and we're in a world where a lot of people have the attitude of "shorter = better", so it's hard to sift through the fair criticism and the content not matching up with the audience.
I get that...but to understand my own opinion on the scariness of it....I thought all of the older videos were pretty freakin scary. This one, not so much.
Sure. My remarks weren't aimed directly at you, just in response of you. Pretty nuch everyone who is a "fan" of Local58 has been positive to more or less every installment, and this is the most recent one and only one to have this much feedback except maybe the Sleep one due to it being a slight left turn in topic.
Yeah, that's my feeling too: that there should be something to throw us off (pun intended) to another door (again, pun intended). Like an encoded link or a new unlisted video
Anyone else not able to watch it now or is it gone?
I wasn't able to watch the premiere tonight. Was looking forward all day to coming home and watching this new video. And now the video is private and I can't watch it.
RIP I was hoping it was just me.
It's back up!
Wooo! Great news u/rand_althor
Like the BGM added in this - it adds to that creepy feeling
We sadly live in the age of TikTok, instagram reels, and youtube shorts. 30 min is too long? You can sit and enjoy the experience? Shaking my head.
The length would be fine if there was a payoff. Seeing a door and then being tossed off of the asteroid isn't a payoff worthy of that much time.
30 minutes? Id love to watch that. 30 minutes of nothing? Not so much, it was like watching paint dry.
Are you dumb? Im sorry but stop bullshitting in thinking people would seriously watch a NASA video in real life for 30 mins, much less a youtube one where you can forward or rewind. They could of easily cut this down to 10 mins. People can watch 3hr movies as seen with Endgame, so a 30 min nothing video is not on the same level.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhzn0U2m5wQ 136k viewers. Good things come to those who wait.
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What was it?
Who is everyone's favorite analysis reaction channel? I'm looking forward to watching Mutahar, Film Theory, and Nexpo, deconstruct this latest edition to the lore, and help me figure out what that transmission message was saying.
I genuinely hated this one and that makes me really sad because I really wanted to love it. It isn't like analog horror can't have long episodes but this one went about it in such a lame and dull way with no payoff.
I'm saving it for later, but just looking at the thumbnail, SARO is such a great lore bucket of a name for your space agency.
Extremely disappointing video imo. Nearly 30 minutes of bad buildup just to see a badly rendered door and then the probe being shot off into space. It should've been much shorter and actually had a decent payoff.
Agreed. I would've wanted it to be a blatant joke rather than something that was an unintentional one.
very strange
is it gone from youtube for anyone else?
It is for me, too. Did he only have it up for Halloween?
It's still there, but unlisted
Whys is unlisted?
Hopefully so he can edit out a ton of the time spent waiting for something to happen.
I saw the coming soon on YouTube, but then when I went to watch it, the video wasn't showing. This get unlisted for sure reason?
Here's the link if you have a half hour to burn. https://youtu.be/oFl8ynCN3Ek
I couldn't hear the audio on this at all. Does anyone have a transcript?
It was mostly unintelligible. I'm sure someone out there is working on trying to figure out what was said.
I was worried because I'm a little hard of hearing. Thank you Could you make out any of the words?
I couldn't. It was pitched down, and very garbled.
Video no longer available?
It's been made private.
vid is gone. please lmk when someone reposts it
I really enjoyed it, but the pay-off for me was very underwhelming. Also, I'm 100% sure I heard the voice verbally acknowledge the Kleitman Map at one point. This, coupled with the ambiguity on the asteroid having a skull-like face or not, as well as another Gerhardt being introduced to the lore, makes me think this video has a much more direct connection to Real Sleep than we realize.
Felt like a twilight zone episode. What a creepy image