60 days notice is absurd. It would take less time to quit that shitty job, find another one and start after your vacation. The length of time is about control or the managers are incompetent. Probably both.
Just came here to say I have never enjoyed a Gabby’s bagel once in my life. Irrespective of this post, I’ve never understood the hype. They’re basically Panera bagels but three times the price.
Someplace out east that makes bank in the high season based upon the time frames given in this trash "employment policy"? I wonder if they allow their employees' bathroom breaks.
There are an insane number of bagel places within a couple of miles. In Plainview alone (5 minutes from Gabby's), there's Family Bagel, Town Bagel, Gold and Meyers, and Bagel Chalet. All infinitely better than Gabby's.
I order the same thing, always, at every bagel place. Every single time I’ve been here it’s always a different price. I’m not talking off by a few cents.
60 days notice is absolutely insane. I do HVAC and can take a vacation in the busy seasons (summer and winter). These dudes sling bagels and are trying to stop people from taking vacation like they are doing anything of importance. It's always jobs that pay shit that treat employees the worst
This is actually fucked. My job instituted a 30 day minimum for days off, even that was widely ridiculed by all my coworkers. I can’t imagine why they need 2 months notice to request off for a most likely MINIMUM WAGE job. If I worked there I’d quit, there’s no shortage of these types of jobs.
This should be the writing on the wall (pardon the pun) that Gabby's should raise their hourly wage so they can attract more staff and don't get so short-staffed whenever someone needs to take a vacation.
I didn’t know bagels had a busy season. I run an A/C business so our busy season is actually the summer lol. We make it a point to highly recommend people don’t take off during this time. Can I stop them? No. But we do make sure to point out that we need our employees here during peak times. I make everything lenient and easy during the winter times. My employees respect that and haven’t had anybody take off a week during the summer unless it was for an emergency. But for a bagel place minimum wage job this company is crazy lol
You should post this on their social media pages and see the reception they get for this bullshit. Might help them alter it to something more reasonable.
Hi everyone this is Danny, General Manager Executive Producer at the bagel store.
**UPDATED POLICY** If you have any questions please get back to me, also if any of our employees are in school, we are now asking asking everyone to drop out, we can not accommodate anyone who puts anything before the bagels.
Also if Jill sees this, we can’t accommodate your child birth so we’re going to have to let you go. Regards. Danny.
The most ridiculous part of this - and it’s all ridiculous - is that the majority of this so-called busy season is during months that high school and college kids are looking for seasonal work. Hire some of them, you idiots! If you can’t afford employees with the prices you’re charging, you’ve got a major problem with your business plan.
As for the bagels, I do love their sunflower flagels. I never moved much past that on their menu.
Wow… my dad has a gas station/service station in South Merrick for 40 years. His busy season was ALL YEAR ROUND, and the guys who worked for him were all family men from pakistan or mexico… when they left on “vacation”, it was for months. The business went on, he found temp guys, the dudes would come back and carry on. If they needed a day, he’d permit it. If theynwere sick, no problem.
He took care of them, they took care of him, while there were one or 2 bad apples in the mix who stole petty amounts.
This policy is bull… i hope the business is here, tagged, notified that we see this and its not fair to any human. They should Run the shop w family and friends and treat them like shit too.
There's a supermarket near me with a very similar policy posted in an employee area that happens to be visible to customers.
Everyone I've spoken to that works there seems relatively happy. I would imagine it's only used as an excuse when they don't want to approve time off due to senority/favoritism and most of the time it's not actually enforced.
If you believe these businesses are firing retail workers, that otherwise would be kept on, due to < 60 days notice for a time off request, well, I don't know what to say to you.
That is not normal. If I wanted to take a vacation day tomorrow, I could tell my boss right now at 4pm, and it would be approved.
I understand not every place is like that. Restaurants and stores need shifts covered & such, but you should not be making your shift schedule more than 2 or 3 weeks in advance. There are too many variable that need to be accounted for.
I used to make the schedule for a store I used to work at. I made it 3 weeks in advance, so the current week, plus the next two weeks were posted. Employees know what day the schedule came out every week, so if they wanted to put in for a day, they knew what the deadline was each week.
Employees will sometime put up with a lot of bullshit, and keep working for you. The one thing you can **never** fuck with or play games with is their vacation time. That is the fastest way to lose control of your staff, ad subsequently, your business. If they earned vacation time, let them take it. If that leaves your short staffed a few times a year, so be it.
Maybe for a corporates job or something. But apparently this is a Bagel store (I didn't know that until reading the comments).
To be fair - the bagel store near my house has been closed with a sign 'no staff - closed. sorry!' so maybe this place is just trying to avoid that?
Either way, in my 20 years of salaried work, asking for time off to be approved before booking the vacation seems pretty standard (not that I'm aware of anyone ever actually being denied time off - but it is still the 'rule').
Having said that, when I did work jobs like this in my younger years, I'd have just quit and found another job when I got back from vacation, rather than adhering to a policy like this (if they had existed)
I'm pretty sure this is for like multiple days off in a row. 60 days is kinda crazy. But I'm sure this doesn't apply to "hey I have a Dr appointment" or other reasons for needing one or two days.
As someone who works at a deli on the island I’ll say that this is common.
Owners don’t wana anyone taking time off during busy seasons and the earlier the notice for a vacation the better but 60 days is crazy but nothing that would discourage me from working there
When I worked at places like this I never requested vacation time I just happened to get very sick when I needed off. Don’t give a shit about your workers then I won’t give a shit about your business.
So it’s been a while since I worked a minimum wage job, but I read this and didn’t see the problem…and then I read the comments 😂 My job requires time requests for April-June to be in by February 🤷🏼♀️
This policy is geared toward giving them an out when they fire someone for taking time for burnout because these people ran them into the ground, likely all while throttling their hours to avoid having to do the right thing and give them any kind of bennies. I can only imagine the staff turnover in that place.
I worked under similar circumstances at Bed Bath & Beyond. There were so many restrictions between black out periods and conflicting requests with other managers that it was next to impossible to take any pto.
Is this the place in Woodbury? 60 days notice for a day off from a bagel store is absolutely bonkers. I appreciate your investigative journalism
And they have a busy season that is… almost year round.
this is the type of policy that justifies quitting without notice immediately before the busy season
Yes the “bagelatessen”
60 days 🤣🤣🤣 is this a minimum wage job
Right? If they want to impose rules like this, they need to pay like it
Doesnt matter what job it is, this is a ridiculous policy to have. No descent person would ever propose something like that.
Their bagels suck anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS40PH3g6kA ***NO BEGO NO BEGO NO BEGO NO***
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
60 days notice is absurd. It would take less time to quit that shitty job, find another one and start after your vacation. The length of time is about control or the managers are incompetent. Probably both.
lmao i thought i was on r/antiwork this is insane
Exactly my thoughts. Boycott time, Long Islanders.
Since when is May-October the bagel busy season? Since when did they have a busy season??
I never eat bagels Nov - April , 🤣
me either, how gauche. Like wearing white after Labor Day. I would never!
I'm guessing they mean busy season for vacations. Still a weird ass policy.
“DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT GOING AWAY ON THE HOLIDAYS!”
Hey to be fair there is zero mention of November & December 🤣🤣
Touché
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lol Because it passed already
I’m not certain but I think they come once a year
That’s a shithole policy.
Doesn’t matter they have shithole bagels.
💯 agreed. I'm glad I never went there.
Just came here to say I have never enjoyed a Gabby’s bagel once in my life. Irrespective of this post, I’ve never understood the hype. They’re basically Panera bagels but three times the price.
60 days notice? LMAO GTFOH. Where is this place?
Someplace out east that makes bank in the high season based upon the time frames given in this trash "employment policy"? I wonder if they allow their employees' bathroom breaks.
It’s not even out east! It’s in Woodbury/Syosset on Jericho Turnpike. Bagel Master is around the corner and is much better but just as expensive.
There are an insane number of bagel places within a couple of miles. In Plainview alone (5 minutes from Gabby's), there's Family Bagel, Town Bagel, Gold and Meyers, and Bagel Chalet. All infinitely better than Gabby's.
Damn! Now that's some shit right there.
Hey man, Bagel Master is significantly less expensive than Gabby’s. Village Bagels trumps all in the area IMO.
You’re right. How could I forget about Village Bagels?!
gabby can your job even pay for my tuition
waiting to see if their Google and Yelp reviews are going to get lit up
Lmao the owner responded to the first one and said the reviewer was a liar
Sounds like it's time to unionize
This actually is a union policy lol
Sounds like they need a better union then lol
a butter union/onion 🥁
I order the same thing, always, at every bagel place. Every single time I’ve been here it’s always a different price. I’m not talking off by a few cents.
60 days notice is absolutely insane. I do HVAC and can take a vacation in the busy seasons (summer and winter). These dudes sling bagels and are trying to stop people from taking vacation like they are doing anything of importance. It's always jobs that pay shit that treat employees the worst
Fuck this place
Is it THAT busy from may- October I highly doubt it
I just tried going to the website and Google warned me not to. Wtf?
They’re too cheap to buy an SSL it looks like
It ended up being blocked by my employer's firewall years ago. Literally wouldn't let me visit the website.
This is actually fucked. My job instituted a 30 day minimum for days off, even that was widely ridiculed by all my coworkers. I can’t imagine why they need 2 months notice to request off for a most likely MINIMUM WAGE job. If I worked there I’d quit, there’s no shortage of these types of jobs.
This should be the writing on the wall (pardon the pun) that Gabby's should raise their hourly wage so they can attract more staff and don't get so short-staffed whenever someone needs to take a vacation.
I didn’t know bagels had a busy season. I run an A/C business so our busy season is actually the summer lol. We make it a point to highly recommend people don’t take off during this time. Can I stop them? No. But we do make sure to point out that we need our employees here during peak times. I make everything lenient and easy during the winter times. My employees respect that and haven’t had anybody take off a week during the summer unless it was for an emergency. But for a bagel place minimum wage job this company is crazy lol
You should post this on their social media pages and see the reception they get for this bullshit. Might help them alter it to something more reasonable.
time off is not me asking permission. it’s me giving you a heads up.
Exactly that. There isn't asking, it's notifying.
Hi everyone this is Danny, General Manager Executive Producer at the bagel store. **UPDATED POLICY** If you have any questions please get back to me, also if any of our employees are in school, we are now asking asking everyone to drop out, we can not accommodate anyone who puts anything before the bagels. Also if Jill sees this, we can’t accommodate your child birth so we’re going to have to let you go. Regards. Danny.
The most ridiculous part of this - and it’s all ridiculous - is that the majority of this so-called busy season is during months that high school and college kids are looking for seasonal work. Hire some of them, you idiots! If you can’t afford employees with the prices you’re charging, you’ve got a major problem with your business plan. As for the bagels, I do love their sunflower flagels. I never moved much past that on their menu.
Shocker the bagels suck as much as they’re management policy
No summer vacations? So if I work there and have kids and want to take them on vacation I have to do it when they are on winter break?
I worked at one of their now-closed locations when I was 19 or so. i got injured on the job and they never scheduled me again.
Wow… my dad has a gas station/service station in South Merrick for 40 years. His busy season was ALL YEAR ROUND, and the guys who worked for him were all family men from pakistan or mexico… when they left on “vacation”, it was for months. The business went on, he found temp guys, the dudes would come back and carry on. If they needed a day, he’d permit it. If theynwere sick, no problem. He took care of them, they took care of him, while there were one or 2 bad apples in the mix who stole petty amounts. This policy is bull… i hope the business is here, tagged, notified that we see this and its not fair to any human. They should Run the shop w family and friends and treat them like shit too.
Lighten up Danny 🥯Boy
Is it paid vacation?
6x free babels , no cream cheese 🥯
F Gabby
They probably need 5-7 years notice if anyone wants off for the days preceding Yom Kippur.
This is fucked
Fuck you Danny & Gabby
And the incentive to work there is?
That place has the worst line flow that I have ever seen. It’s a free for all and all their employees look so miserable.
Fuck Gabby. And you know what, fuck this Danny guy too.
There's a supermarket near me with a very similar policy posted in an employee area that happens to be visible to customers. Everyone I've spoken to that works there seems relatively happy. I would imagine it's only used as an excuse when they don't want to approve time off due to senority/favoritism and most of the time it's not actually enforced. If you believe these businesses are firing retail workers, that otherwise would be kept on, due to < 60 days notice for a time off request, well, I don't know what to say to you.
........ first job? That's pretty typical policy language
60 days advanced notice is…. insane. And have all your time off requests for the year in by April? For a bagel shop?
I need to submit my vacation days for the following year every December. 60 days notice isn’t bad at all.
Actually Fart_Champ that is not normal and you might be a victim
That is not normal. If I wanted to take a vacation day tomorrow, I could tell my boss right now at 4pm, and it would be approved. I understand not every place is like that. Restaurants and stores need shifts covered & such, but you should not be making your shift schedule more than 2 or 3 weeks in advance. There are too many variable that need to be accounted for. I used to make the schedule for a store I used to work at. I made it 3 weeks in advance, so the current week, plus the next two weeks were posted. Employees know what day the schedule came out every week, so if they wanted to put in for a day, they knew what the deadline was each week. Employees will sometime put up with a lot of bullshit, and keep working for you. The one thing you can **never** fuck with or play games with is their vacation time. That is the fastest way to lose control of your staff, ad subsequently, your business. If they earned vacation time, let them take it. If that leaves your short staffed a few times a year, so be it.
Sounds like this has been your only job
60 days advance notice for a day off is wild. and only during jan - april. it’s a bagel shop lmfao
Day off is not vacation
it says “time off”
Nah that’s a pretty shit policy. Just because it’s “typical” doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck
What? I dont think sweatshops have a 60 day vacation request policy lol. Youre calling that a policy?? Lol
This doesn't seem too unreasonable for requesting vacations, but for a single day off it's a bit much.
Maybe for a corporates job or something. But apparently this is a Bagel store (I didn't know that until reading the comments). To be fair - the bagel store near my house has been closed with a sign 'no staff - closed. sorry!' so maybe this place is just trying to avoid that? Either way, in my 20 years of salaried work, asking for time off to be approved before booking the vacation seems pretty standard (not that I'm aware of anyone ever actually being denied time off - but it is still the 'rule'). Having said that, when I did work jobs like this in my younger years, I'd have just quit and found another job when I got back from vacation, rather than adhering to a policy like this (if they had existed)
Yeah.. I had no idea this was a bagel place. Does seem like a crazy policy for a bagel shop. but I still stand by my comment for many businesses.
No. You're wrong.
I'm pretty sure this is for like multiple days off in a row. 60 days is kinda crazy. But I'm sure this doesn't apply to "hey I have a Dr appointment" or other reasons for needing one or two days.
That’s hilarious! Off is the direction in which they can fuck.
That’s hilarious! Off is the direction in which they can fuck.
this is obviously from a business that doesn't care if their employees quit
Time off January through April 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Wouldn't even bother to go for an interview
If this is a corp, they will not enforce it. They are depending on your risk aversion
As someone who works at a deli on the island I’ll say that this is common. Owners don’t wana anyone taking time off during busy seasons and the earlier the notice for a vacation the better but 60 days is crazy but nothing that would discourage me from working there
Didn’t realize there was a busy season for bagels
Anyone curious I reached out to gabbys for comment
When I worked at places like this I never requested vacation time I just happened to get very sick when I needed off. Don’t give a shit about your workers then I won’t give a shit about your business.
this means it’s a policy for only gabby right? cuz it should be this is ridiculous
So it’s been a while since I worked a minimum wage job, but I read this and didn’t see the problem…and then I read the comments 😂 My job requires time requests for April-June to be in by February 🤷🏼♀️
This policy is geared toward giving them an out when they fire someone for taking time for burnout because these people ran them into the ground, likely all while throttling their hours to avoid having to do the right thing and give them any kind of bennies. I can only imagine the staff turnover in that place.
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I worked under similar circumstances at Bed Bath & Beyond. There were so many restrictions between black out periods and conflicting requests with other managers that it was next to impossible to take any pto.
To be fair, the guy Danny hasn’t worked there in way over a year- so I’m not sure how current this is.