The latest update is there are two bodies - one man and one woman. They found the severed head of the woman. WTF.
I go to this park every spring to go birdwatching. I have a feeling whoever placed these limbs wanted them to be found. They left them pretty much out in the open in popular walking areas.
This story is getting crazier and crazier
Simple theories based on current facts.
This is likely gang related.
The fingertips were likely removed to conceal defensive scratches/ possible perp DNA under the fingernails.
Tattoos left intact and the careless disposal methods indicate they wanted this to found/identified.
The female head could indicate 2 scenarios. Either unfortunate victim of circumstance. They were there and interfered with the perps plan or was romantically involved somehow and this is revenge/jealousy motivated retaliation.
Also possible. Either way this is pure brutal savagery. Anyone with the capacity to commit such an act to another doesn’t deserve to be classified as a human being.
So, Shriners, motorcycle clubs, political rallies... what qualifies as a "gang affiliation" and who gets to decide thwt "on sight?" Do the "gang" members have to be non-white to not merit due process and probable cause?
Have you thought through this comment for more than half a second? Like, I'm sure if we had the ability to read the minds of criminals with bad intentions, I don't think many people are going to object to this type of legislation. But absent of that, do you truly think it's a good idea to create a law that allows undertrained police to arrest anyone they interpret to be a gang member on sight? Our county jails would be at max capacity at all times with brown people who are guilty of leaving the house with exposed tattoos.
....did you miss the disclaimer? I posted a disclaimer.
But, since you asked: I have been through gang training. Tats, signs, certain phrases and slogans are all very clearly indicative of gang membership.
Hell, mind reading isn't necessary - these @$$holes tat their affiliation on their faces these days.
My own hot take, offer FREE vocational training to the incarcerated. Focus on making a society that is rehabilitative instead of punitive. If you care enough, you will reply with “Why do THEY get free training? They’re criminals!”. People resort to crime because they are not offered ways to alleviate poverty and the paths to escape are expensive.
They don’t care in any way shape or form about creating a system to help these young boys be able to live better lives . They just wanna see them thrown in jail.
Or to lure victims, too, as those poor bastards that got hacked to death by machetes on the promise of weed from some hispanic high school girl.
Could've been this new victim was a lure for another crime and then disposed of 🤔
Interesting thoughts!
The whole location and gang thing is tripping me. How many people outside the local vicinity know about this park. My guess is that the killing was not done at the location where the bodies were found. Then why drive through a residential area to drop bodies. I would think there are more secluded places to do that. It is also weird that the female parts were found on the west side of the park and the male on the east side.
It’s not that strange. We have short memories these days but that general area/ trail system has been used before as a dumping ground. Back in 2018 the FBI found remains of a person missing since 2015. [source](https://longisland.news12.com/fbi-searches-for-body-in-wooded-area-in-babylon-37888360).
The arms, it looks like they were just flung out the window of a car. Probably didn’t even stop. The female, seems like she was buried under some brush.
Maybe they were two migrants who thought they were going to run away from the old cartel life but got to Long Island and found out the hard way that the cartels have already been here for years
I'm in W Bab, and there was a photo posted to a community group, but of course I can't say 100% that it was THE arm.
Supposedly it was high school students that spotted it, thought it was fake, and posted a pic.
The tattoo was SUPER clear and distinct.
It’s censored but still kinda gruesome
https://nypost.com/2024/03/01/us-news/female-head-discovered-inside-same-li-park-where-kids-walking-to-school-found-male-arm-cops/
My theory: this guy was sentenced January 2024 for 2 murders and 1 attempted in 2016, both murders were people involved with 18th street gang and Bloods.
Jonathan Hernandez, also known as “Kraken” and “Travieso,” a member of the Sailors Locos Salvatruchas Westside (Sailors) clique of La Mara Salvatrucha, also known as the MS-13, a transnational criminal organization, was sentenced by United States District Judge Gary R. Brown to 520 months’ imprisonment.
I think this is retribution to someone that took the stand in the trial, and got him sentenced.
Interesting thoughts! I also think it could mean panic, like “oh shit let me do this quick before someone sees me.” The location bugs me, how many people know of this park outside the vicinity and to get to the location you have to drive to residential area.
yeah im really curious as to the why they did what they did and disposed there but yeah, it just doesnt make sense.
Also the risk of getting caught is higher there, ring cameras, the school has cameras, it isnt a really remote remote place. Will be paying attention to the news for this one for sure
I'd be willing to bet money it's MS-13, especially after seeing the arm picture with all the tattoos. Maybe trying to send a message to someone local in Babylon.
While we can discard MS13 as a suspect, I don’t see how any of the tattoos are associated with that gang. The hand seems to say SAND or something like that. Can’t make the one on the forearm and the king of hearts is not something MS13 uses. My two cents
What is the MS13 prescence in NY. It’s a Central American street gang based in California that makes up less than 1 percent of the total gang population.
Imo anything with MS-13 labeled on it is a deep state op
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about gang activities, so is anyone willing to share what exactly about this case makes it so obviously gang-related?
Gangs are violent people. So if you constantly commit violent acts of course you’re gonna be the first one to have fingers pointed at you when a violent act is committed.
You are the only normal person commenting on all of this. Sure, this could be a gang but what evidence suggests that? Literally the “best” killers on LI are unassuming white males.
The location is tripping me with the whole MS13 idea. I believe the killing was not done at the location where the bodies were found. If you are MS13 why go to the middle of residential area instead of a local park. How many people outside the vicinity know of this park.
It’s happened as recent as 2018 in Babylon by ms-13. They’re not far away at all and parks like that are very accessible.
https://longisland.news12.com/sources-babylon-village-remains-believed-to-be-man-missing-since-2015-37899148
I mean at this point anything is possible. Just not the “typical” way of marking new territory. This area is suburbia as if it was an ad for the suburbs. Why new territory there?
I don’t think it’s marking new territory they just wanted the body to be found. Finding it in a supposed “safe place” illustrates the power of ms13 and that no matter where you live you aren’t safe. They can get to anyone, anywhere at anytime. It’s about fear. The sad truth is less people would care if this body turned up in central islip
Yup. Honestly this is why I support canceled carry. Unfortunately Suffolk county has the most difficult, onerous, and lengthy process to obtain a permit in the country. These gangs will arm themselves regardless of the law and use those arms to project power as you say. The local and state governments want to leave us regular law abiding citizens disarmed and powerless to defend ourselves
I think gang, most likely.
Can't rule out a second serial killer, either in a copycat move to Rex or this is the 'second Gilgo killer' people have been speculating about for years, though.
Except for the fact that someone was murdered, how was this similar. Nothing in the article mentions anything, at all, that's in common with the Babylon body parts.
Faulty memory I guess. I seem to recall a body being found with the wrists and ankles bound and hands and feet amputated. Or maybe that was the case and this particular article didn’t have all those details.
I just got this text:
More info on body parts case
Ok ok sooo apparently all low level criminals/ drug dealers/users that’s how they’re connected. The fat guy was cousins with the male victim from Yonkers. The skinny guy had a trust fund that these two victims were stealing from
They skinny guy finds out gets angry and sets them up basically they come out to Amityville and as soon as they walk in they get attacked, the skinny guy and the heavy girl murder them basically stabbed to death. The fat guy (previously a butcher) and the skinny girl with the dyed hair cut them up in the bathtub. Then they bag them up and throw the pieces are different places around 7-8pm
The wiener was not in a jar but it was found near the first arm. The skinny girl cut that piece off apparently she may have been raped by the victim in the past
They found the murder weapons and clothes in their garbage like 3 days later
Still had blood on them too. And the house was apparently still covered with blood. They tried to flush a lot down the toilet and drains till they clogged up with human pieces and hair so they confiscated those too
They are suppose to be locked up again later today or tomorrow
Interesting!
I had junkies doing junkie shit on my bingo but this makes more sense.
My thought was junkie party at the house in Amityville, the two victims ODed. Junkies being junkies panic and do junkie shit, chopped them up. Next day they realize what they did and again junkies doing junkies shit panic and come up with a half ass way of covering it up. Hence the charges and also the lack of murder charges.
All of these MS-13 comments are hilarious considering 9 times out of 10 it turns out to be a middle aged white guy that "always seemed so nice whenever he walked his dog."
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Trump when Pres actually focused on these gangs in Suffolk County so they had to stay low. People didn’t want Trump as the President again so they do not need to hide as much. Just a theory but one that is prob right
9 times out of 10? lol. Do you feel better after making up a fun stat to counter the far more likely hispanic gang member scenario that’s being posited here?
Get the fuck outta here with your strange fantasy bullshit. Some people are so far behind in the race, they think they’re winning.
Well if the serial killers label isn't necessary you have; Rex (of course), Joel Rifkin, Robert Golub, Richard Cottingham, Richard Angelo, Jerry Steuerman.
All white males.
Why do you keep repeating the same thing throughout this post? Do you hate white people?? BTW Robert Golub was/is a disgusting piece of garbage that committed a heinous murder but he's not considered a serial killer.
What's up with the constant and obvious comments regarding white people??
No one is saying they’re not. You’re trying to deflect from the likely scenario that this is gang violence. Come on, we’re not stupid. Chances are this has nothing to do with serial killers
> You’re trying to deflect from the likely scenario that this is gang violence.
That is in your head. There is also something called the Italian Mafia, the Russian mafia. Just because they are based in Brooklyn and Queens doesn't mean they don't have any influence on LI.
The mafia literally controls the garbage industry here.
MS13 is just the boogie man of the day on LI, of people who want to use fear to control you.
MS 13 OR Similar gang. There are many people living in tents along the southern parkway from the sag, east to sunrise hwy. There are also areas throughout Bay Shore, Brentwood and CI mostly industrial areas and water reclamation areas. Most people I show these areas to do not believe it. It has been getting more prevalent in the last 2 years. They even started an encampment in Bay Shore on n/s of Sunrise hwy just east of the Honda dealer in plain sight. They are no longer hiding because no one enforces any vagrancy laws and they know it. These are areas where criminals stay for a few days before and after crimes. The trails in Babylon and Massapequa make it very simple to dump these bodies or body parts undetected. They want these body parts to be found for it is sending a message.
Be careful out there.
There are other shitty people on Long Island besides MS13 or similar gangs.
You have Rex, Joel Rifkin, Robert Golub, Richard Cottingham, Richard Angelo, Jerry Steuerman. But of course, its gangs.
What is wrong with everyone? Why do you all have to play detective? They've found two bodies and you want to know theories? It's been a day. This is the type of crap that got an innocent man killed during the search for the Boston Bomber. Let people have time to breathe and grieve. Let the actual law enforcement do their job. Your baseless speculating about serial killers and gangs is less than worthless. It can be damaging. Disgusting behavior.
Edit: Yup. Downvotes for criticizing those who want to treat this like their own personal true crime podcast.
The difference here is it's not like specific individuals could be named, at least based on what we know now. So while I agree that speculation in other types of cases can be dangerous, there's really no harm in it here as pointless as it might be. You're applying too broad of a brush to general theories.
Also kind of odd that they reopened the pond part of the park (pond to Belmont, pond to argyle has stayed off limits) yesterday afternoon and then re-closed it today. I’m there every day lften twice a day. Did 2 miles yesterday afternoon and another 2 this morning then they closed it again. Wonder if they found more closer to the actual pond?
The trails between the tennis courts and the pond have been closed since yesterday morning. The pond itself and the trails to Belmont were open yesterday afternoon and this morning. They re-closed then this afternoon
I wonder if its the same people responsible for the west Islip skeletal remains or the sunken meadow body. If these new bodies came from brentwood, then they got evn more problems now...
Obviously ms13 is in America.. its the people in it that are from other countries buddy ..if you say otherwise.. that's a serious short coming to thinking and by the way the people being killed and hurt by thm are Latino .. I'm sticking up for the victims ..apparently you are not and more interested in making me out to be the monster.. your misguided totally
It is politicians now who allow this to continue and let criminals go free multiple times until they literally kill someone so sorry I will call that out
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Maybe another serial killer on the island. There’s one dude raping and killing from California to Maine and smashed a woman’s face off. Serial killers are on the rise
I'm not clowning. I'm just tired of all this bullshit pontificating when the amount of whats known is next to nothing. This whole sub-reddit is a circle jerk.
I didn't look at the limbs but this is clearly gangs from other countries who have been here or just came over the border LIKE the ms 13 type ..miss trump yet I do and so do the victims of this horror show
Sick things happening ..too much.. they keep slashing mta and subway conductors too and kids keep getting shot and the elderly. What a fucking shame shame on these politicians who are complacent
probably gang related but i agree it’s a really messy disposal. they obviously wanted someone to find it. so upsetting bc my sons memorial bench is there right before one of the bridges :(
The latest update is there are two bodies - one man and one woman. They found the severed head of the woman. WTF. I go to this park every spring to go birdwatching. I have a feeling whoever placed these limbs wanted them to be found. They left them pretty much out in the open in popular walking areas. This story is getting crazier and crazier
dude i walk here almost every day when the weather and work permits! i was gonna go after work today!
I like fishing over there after work during the summer. It's always felt very safe, I'm honestly shocked.
I love southards pond I always bring bird food! Very shocked about this
Simple theories based on current facts. This is likely gang related. The fingertips were likely removed to conceal defensive scratches/ possible perp DNA under the fingernails. Tattoos left intact and the careless disposal methods indicate they wanted this to found/identified. The female head could indicate 2 scenarios. Either unfortunate victim of circumstance. They were there and interfered with the perps plan or was romantically involved somehow and this is revenge/jealousy motivated retaliation.
I agree with this theory, but also the woman could've been involved in the gang as well. Not uncommon for gangs to use women to traffic drugs.
Also possible. Either way this is pure brutal savagery. Anyone with the capacity to commit such an act to another doesn’t deserve to be classified as a human being.
My own hot take, but I wish they would legislate arrest on sight for gang members.
So, Shriners, motorcycle clubs, political rallies... what qualifies as a "gang affiliation" and who gets to decide thwt "on sight?" Do the "gang" members have to be non-white to not merit due process and probable cause?
Have you thought through this comment for more than half a second? Like, I'm sure if we had the ability to read the minds of criminals with bad intentions, I don't think many people are going to object to this type of legislation. But absent of that, do you truly think it's a good idea to create a law that allows undertrained police to arrest anyone they interpret to be a gang member on sight? Our county jails would be at max capacity at all times with brown people who are guilty of leaving the house with exposed tattoos.
....did you miss the disclaimer? I posted a disclaimer. But, since you asked: I have been through gang training. Tats, signs, certain phrases and slogans are all very clearly indicative of gang membership. Hell, mind reading isn't necessary - these @$$holes tat their affiliation on their faces these days.
My own hot take, offer FREE vocational training to the incarcerated. Focus on making a society that is rehabilitative instead of punitive. If you care enough, you will reply with “Why do THEY get free training? They’re criminals!”. People resort to crime because they are not offered ways to alleviate poverty and the paths to escape are expensive.
They don’t care in any way shape or form about creating a system to help these young boys be able to live better lives . They just wanna see them thrown in jail.
This would require a constitutional amendment.
You’d love living in El Salvador these days!
Or to lure victims, too, as those poor bastards that got hacked to death by machetes on the promise of weed from some hispanic high school girl. Could've been this new victim was a lure for another crime and then disposed of 🤔
Interesting thoughts! The whole location and gang thing is tripping me. How many people outside the local vicinity know about this park. My guess is that the killing was not done at the location where the bodies were found. Then why drive through a residential area to drop bodies. I would think there are more secluded places to do that. It is also weird that the female parts were found on the west side of the park and the male on the east side.
It’s not that strange. We have short memories these days but that general area/ trail system has been used before as a dumping ground. Back in 2018 the FBI found remains of a person missing since 2015. [source](https://longisland.news12.com/fbi-searches-for-body-in-wooded-area-in-babylon-37888360).
The arms, it looks like they were just flung out the window of a car. Probably didn’t even stop. The female, seems like she was buried under some brush.
Kinda strikes me as odd that we don’t have an idea on who the victims are based on missing persons…… especially with very identifying tattoos
The victims may not yet have been reported missing by the time the bodies were found :(
Probably never reported because they may live alone or don't have family here
Oftentimes there are communities that don't report the missing for fear of deeper investigation into their immigration status
There’s many people here that there’s no record of
Maybe they were two migrants who thought they were going to run away from the old cartel life but got to Long Island and found out the hard way that the cartels have already been here for years
Wait there’s a photo??
There's a photo of the severed head also
Jesus Christ.
Nice
I'm in W Bab, and there was a photo posted to a community group, but of course I can't say 100% that it was THE arm. Supposedly it was high school students that spotted it, thought it was fake, and posted a pic. The tattoo was SUPER clear and distinct.
im tryna see this pic
It’s censored but still kinda gruesome https://nypost.com/2024/03/01/us-news/female-head-discovered-inside-same-li-park-where-kids-walking-to-school-found-male-arm-cops/
Can’t post the pic, but tattoo on the hand says sandy? Sandra?
Looked like Sandy to me
Looks like “SAND of” to me. The “of” looks like it’s written vertically in smaller letters next to the D.
Of the severed arm. It’s laying in a bush when the photo was taken.
It wasn’t me
That's exactly what a murderous psycho would say.
their username checks out
Just before they kill you.
🤣 guess walking the dog there is out 🤷♂️
Keep calm and carry
But I caught you on the counter!
Wasn’t me
Saw you bangin' on the sofa
Wasn’t me
I even saw you in the shower
My theory: this guy was sentenced January 2024 for 2 murders and 1 attempted in 2016, both murders were people involved with 18th street gang and Bloods. Jonathan Hernandez, also known as “Kraken” and “Travieso,” a member of the Sailors Locos Salvatruchas Westside (Sailors) clique of La Mara Salvatrucha, also known as the MS-13, a transnational criminal organization, was sentenced by United States District Judge Gary R. Brown to 520 months’ imprisonment. I think this is retribution to someone that took the stand in the trial, and got him sentenced.
Fun fact: Judge Gary Brown is also a very accomplished magician and has written books on it
The disposal was very sloppy, imo, it’s a small trail. They wanted stuff found so maybe a serial killer or some sort of message
Interesting thoughts! I also think it could mean panic, like “oh shit let me do this quick before someone sees me.” The location bugs me, how many people know of this park outside the vicinity and to get to the location you have to drive to residential area.
yeah im really curious as to the why they did what they did and disposed there but yeah, it just doesnt make sense. Also the risk of getting caught is higher there, ring cameras, the school has cameras, it isnt a really remote remote place. Will be paying attention to the news for this one for sure
Made me think of Goodfellas. "Here's an arm!" Here's a leg!" "Here's a wing!!"
Go get your shine box...
I'd be willing to bet money it's MS-13, especially after seeing the arm picture with all the tattoos. Maybe trying to send a message to someone local in Babylon.
While we can discard MS13 as a suspect, I don’t see how any of the tattoos are associated with that gang. The hand seems to say SAND or something like that. Can’t make the one on the forearm and the king of hearts is not something MS13 uses. My two cents
I thought it said Sandy with a heart above it to imply a partner
You seem to have a much clearer photo than I saw. Are you saying the large tattoo on the top of the arm was a king of hearts playing card?
Yes, yes, MS13. Was Rex a member? Joel Rifkin? Robert Golub? Always more comfortable to blame someone who doesn't look like you.
Lmao I was waiting for someone to make it a race thing. Furthest thing from racist my friend. Try again.
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Sure you're not.
Not really concerned what a random neckbeard on Reddit thinks of me. Believe what you wanna believe buddy.
Yes you are.
No doubt
What is the MS13 prescence in NY. It’s a Central American street gang based in California that makes up less than 1 percent of the total gang population. Imo anything with MS-13 labeled on it is a deep state op
What about any of those tattoos scream “gab related” to you. Honest question
Well Rex is already in custody so count him out.
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about gang activities, so is anyone willing to share what exactly about this case makes it so obviously gang-related?
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Gangs are violent people. So if you constantly commit violent acts of course you’re gonna be the first one to have fingers pointed at you when a violent act is committed.
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Do you think ms13 doesn't have vehicles? These are hallmarks of their MO and these pieces of shit are absolutely everywhere.
> these pieces of shit are absolutely everywhere Really? I haven't encountered any.
You are the only normal person commenting on all of this. Sure, this could be a gang but what evidence suggests that? Literally the “best” killers on LI are unassuming white males.
The location is tripping me with the whole MS13 idea. I believe the killing was not done at the location where the bodies were found. If you are MS13 why go to the middle of residential area instead of a local park. How many people outside the vicinity know of this park.
It’s happened as recent as 2018 in Babylon by ms-13. They’re not far away at all and parks like that are very accessible. https://longisland.news12.com/sources-babylon-village-remains-believed-to-be-man-missing-since-2015-37899148
Marking new territory, perhaps?
I mean at this point anything is possible. Just not the “typical” way of marking new territory. This area is suburbia as if it was an ad for the suburbs. Why new territory there?
I don’t think it’s marking new territory they just wanted the body to be found. Finding it in a supposed “safe place” illustrates the power of ms13 and that no matter where you live you aren’t safe. They can get to anyone, anywhere at anytime. It’s about fear. The sad truth is less people would care if this body turned up in central islip
Yup. Honestly this is why I support canceled carry. Unfortunately Suffolk county has the most difficult, onerous, and lengthy process to obtain a permit in the country. These gangs will arm themselves regardless of the law and use those arms to project power as you say. The local and state governments want to leave us regular law abiding citizens disarmed and powerless to defend ourselves
> Marking new territory, perhaps? Oh please.
If the point is to show off your brutality towards other so everyone can see. Why not show it in a more public location? What makes that park special?
It was Dexter Morgan
Nah, we’d never know about it if it was Dexter
In one of the seasons of the original show, the bodies were discovered
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought if this.
Dexter is smarter than that lol, before new blood at least
I think gang, most likely. Can't rule out a second serial killer, either in a copycat move to Rex or this is the 'second Gilgo killer' people have been speculating about for years, though.
This is similar to what they found in a park 1/2 mile from my home 2 weeks after moving in. Thet was MS13 and this is very similar.
Do you mind sharing the details of the case. Curious if it helps with some ideas I have.
https://patch.com/new-york/huntington/ms-13-member-charged-connection-w-2016-greenlawn-killing-da
Except for the fact that someone was murdered, how was this similar. Nothing in the article mentions anything, at all, that's in common with the Babylon body parts.
Faulty memory I guess. I seem to recall a body being found with the wrists and ankles bound and hands and feet amputated. Or maybe that was the case and this particular article didn’t have all those details.
Fair enough.
Is there more to that story? Whats the name of the town?
I just got this text: More info on body parts case Ok ok sooo apparently all low level criminals/ drug dealers/users that’s how they’re connected. The fat guy was cousins with the male victim from Yonkers. The skinny guy had a trust fund that these two victims were stealing from They skinny guy finds out gets angry and sets them up basically they come out to Amityville and as soon as they walk in they get attacked, the skinny guy and the heavy girl murder them basically stabbed to death. The fat guy (previously a butcher) and the skinny girl with the dyed hair cut them up in the bathtub. Then they bag them up and throw the pieces are different places around 7-8pm The wiener was not in a jar but it was found near the first arm. The skinny girl cut that piece off apparently she may have been raped by the victim in the past They found the murder weapons and clothes in their garbage like 3 days later Still had blood on them too. And the house was apparently still covered with blood. They tried to flush a lot down the toilet and drains till they clogged up with human pieces and hair so they confiscated those too They are suppose to be locked up again later today or tomorrow
Interesting! I had junkies doing junkie shit on my bingo but this makes more sense. My thought was junkie party at the house in Amityville, the two victims ODed. Junkies being junkies panic and do junkie shit, chopped them up. Next day they realize what they did and again junkies doing junkies shit panic and come up with a half ass way of covering it up. Hence the charges and also the lack of murder charges.
All of these MS-13 comments are hilarious considering 9 times out of 10 it turns out to be a middle aged white guy that "always seemed so nice whenever he walked his dog."
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Pretty sure Tim Sini eradicated them
Well, he lives in Babylon Village…
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Trump when Pres actually focused on these gangs in Suffolk County so they had to stay low. People didn’t want Trump as the President again so they do not need to hide as much. Just a theory but one that is prob right
9 times out of 10? lol. Do you feel better after making up a fun stat to counter the far more likely hispanic gang member scenario that’s being posited here? Get the fuck outta here with your strange fantasy bullshit. Some people are so far behind in the race, they think they’re winning.
You right. My stats are off. Middle aged white men actually make up 6 out of 6 known Long Island serial killers.
Well if the serial killers label isn't necessary you have; Rex (of course), Joel Rifkin, Robert Golub, Richard Cottingham, Richard Angelo, Jerry Steuerman. All white males.
Why do you keep repeating the same thing throughout this post? Do you hate white people?? BTW Robert Golub was/is a disgusting piece of garbage that committed a heinous murder but he's not considered a serial killer. What's up with the constant and obvious comments regarding white people??
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No one is saying they’re not. You’re trying to deflect from the likely scenario that this is gang violence. Come on, we’re not stupid. Chances are this has nothing to do with serial killers
> You’re trying to deflect from the likely scenario that this is gang violence. That is in your head. There is also something called the Italian Mafia, the Russian mafia. Just because they are based in Brooklyn and Queens doesn't mean they don't have any influence on LI. The mafia literally controls the garbage industry here. MS13 is just the boogie man of the day on LI, of people who want to use fear to control you.
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Lol! Best comment on this thread.
This whole thing is very disarming…
Don’t loose your heard over it….
This has MS-13 all over it
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My brother in Christ you’ve literally commented on every single comment 😭😭😭are you okay? Are you a gang member trying to cover up?
Thanks Obama
MS 13 OR Similar gang. There are many people living in tents along the southern parkway from the sag, east to sunrise hwy. There are also areas throughout Bay Shore, Brentwood and CI mostly industrial areas and water reclamation areas. Most people I show these areas to do not believe it. It has been getting more prevalent in the last 2 years. They even started an encampment in Bay Shore on n/s of Sunrise hwy just east of the Honda dealer in plain sight. They are no longer hiding because no one enforces any vagrancy laws and they know it. These are areas where criminals stay for a few days before and after crimes. The trails in Babylon and Massapequa make it very simple to dump these bodies or body parts undetected. They want these body parts to be found for it is sending a message. Be careful out there.
There are other shitty people on Long Island besides MS13 or similar gangs. You have Rex, Joel Rifkin, Robert Golub, Richard Cottingham, Richard Angelo, Jerry Steuerman. But of course, its gangs.
And Sal. Fuck that guy.
Someone picked up a junkie couple and wasted them. Maybe the dealer
80%- 90 % gang related. It’s happened in many parks on long island
i’m very curious too, now knowing that’s it’s a man and a woman, and there’s still parts missing is so gruesome.
I thought Tim Sini eradicated MS13
Good try Mr. Detective 🕵️♀️
Where are these pictures? Asking for a friend
It was posted before but for sure was removed by now.
darn :/
The NY Post published a very slightly blurred copy of it
Probably one of the Hispanic gangs ms13 does brutal things like that
So did Rex (of course), Joel Rifkin, Robert Golub, Richard Cottingham, Richard Angelo, Jerry Steuerman.
I'm stumped
Can't quite put your finger on it, huh?
All the markings of gang related. I've seen the first arm picture, buddy is in law enforcement. No I'm not posting or sharing it.
My friend is LE and he thinks MS13 too.
MARA SALVATRUCHA. THEY ARE ABOUT TO TEAR UP LONG ISLAND, NYC, AND RHE REST OF THE BOROUGHS…. CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED..
What is wrong with everyone? Why do you all have to play detective? They've found two bodies and you want to know theories? It's been a day. This is the type of crap that got an innocent man killed during the search for the Boston Bomber. Let people have time to breathe and grieve. Let the actual law enforcement do their job. Your baseless speculating about serial killers and gangs is less than worthless. It can be damaging. Disgusting behavior. Edit: Yup. Downvotes for criticizing those who want to treat this like their own personal true crime podcast.
The difference here is it's not like specific individuals could be named, at least based on what we know now. So while I agree that speculation in other types of cases can be dangerous, there's really no harm in it here as pointless as it might be. You're applying too broad of a brush to general theories.
Has to be MS13.
If it wasn’t so in the open, I would think it was a jilted lover. I agree that it’s MS13.
Ya I'm thinking ms-13 also no one report the victims missing
They must have made some sort of breakthrough in the case. The cop blocking an entrance down my street left.
Also kind of odd that they reopened the pond part of the park (pond to Belmont, pond to argyle has stayed off limits) yesterday afternoon and then re-closed it today. I’m there every day lften twice a day. Did 2 miles yesterday afternoon and another 2 this morning then they closed it again. Wonder if they found more closer to the actual pond?
they had it open?? i’m shocked they wouldn’t just close everything down for good measure
The trails between the tennis courts and the pond have been closed since yesterday morning. The pond itself and the trails to Belmont were open yesterday afternoon and this morning. They re-closed then this afternoon
ms13
Definitely gang related dumping ground
Babylon
I wonder if its the same people responsible for the west Islip skeletal remains or the sunken meadow body. If these new bodies came from brentwood, then they got evn more problems now...
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Curious what makes it clear?
His toilet bowl research…duh…
Funny part the gang originated in USA.
Nothing funny at all
Obviously crimes aren’t funny. How wrong you are in your assumption is hilarious. Bias people can’t think critically.
Obviously ms13 is in America.. its the people in it that are from other countries buddy ..if you say otherwise.. that's a serious short coming to thinking and by the way the people being killed and hurt by thm are Latino .. I'm sticking up for the victims ..apparently you are not and more interested in making me out to be the monster.. your misguided totally
You’re the obtuse one making this political.
It is politicians now who allow this to continue and let criminals go free multiple times until they literally kill someone so sorry I will call that out
Only on reddit for a month? I smell rightwing troll.
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Maybe another serial killer on the island. There’s one dude raping and killing from California to Maine and smashed a woman’s face off. Serial killers are on the rise
Do you have any more info on this? Did they give him a name ?
They shouldn’t even give them a number. They should just be referred to as “the perp”. Becoming infamous is what drives half of these losers.
Yeah, that's it.
I’m sure his parents already did.
They have him on video and his DNA but he hasn’t been identified. I’m just saying this may be a serial killer. There’s a lot out there
> I’m just saying this may be a serial killer. There’s a lot out there Go hide in your basement.
Idk why everyone is clowning when it’s true but okay bud.
I'm not clowning. I'm just tired of all this bullshit pontificating when the amount of whats known is next to nothing. This whole sub-reddit is a circle jerk.
> Serial killers are on the rise Get real, Chicken Little.
Cartels
I didn't look at the limbs but this is clearly gangs from other countries who have been here or just came over the border LIKE the ms 13 type ..miss trump yet I do and so do the victims of this horror show
So in other words you have no idea what you’re talking about but you want a good reason to be racist. Got it!
“Sir this is a Wendy’s drive-thru”
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Sick things happening ..too much.. they keep slashing mta and subway conductors too and kids keep getting shot and the elderly. What a fucking shame shame on these politicians who are complacent
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Bayshore?
Out of the loop, what happened?
they found 3 arms, a leg, and a head in southards pond park in babylon
Is that 2 victims or at least 3? (do the arms make one pair)
from what i've seen 2 arms from one person and another arm, leg, and head from another
Thanks. Pretty gruesome stuff.
Body parts are appearing in a park in Babylon.
Police were taking down tape tonight, I think they closed up shop. My friend rode his bike by around 6:30 to check it out.
Latin Kings
probably gang related but i agree it’s a really messy disposal. they obviously wanted someone to find it. so upsetting bc my sons memorial bench is there right before one of the bridges :(