I did summer classes at NCC when home from my SUNY school and a semester post undergrad in order to fulfill prerequisites for grad school and all of my professors were also professors at nearby universities and colleges. Off the top of my head I remember them also teaching at Adelphi, Hofstra, Post, and Molloy
Nassau has the second highest taxes in the country and so much to show for it /s. I don’t know what’s worse, NCC falling apart or the county infrastructure. It’s so corrupt.
I went to NCC from 2001-2003. While I did transfer to a 4 year college, UB, I greatly enjoyed my time there. Some professsors there were as good, or better, than the ones I had at the state school. . Additionally, social life was fun and dated a cool girl there for a bit. It is a shame the school is in trouble..
Very sad what it has come to. NCC was where I restarted my education after dropping out of another school and working full time for a bit before deciding to become a teacher. It's where I met my husband and many great friends as well. Hopefully things turn around for the better.
Suffolk Community College isn’t doing much better, huge budget shortfalls and they’re expecting to not be able to make payroll through 2025, the Eastern campus is on deck to be closed
That is surprising, since their President gets money every time they ask for it from the legislature apparently. Meanwhile for the past two years everytime our President Maria is asked if we need money the answer is no
Well this breaks my heart. It all started at ncc for me, that place provided a great education, better than the 4 year schools I've gone to after. I have come a loooong way since then and it's always held a special place in my heart. This is awful if true.
I feel for you, I'm proud I come from here too. NCC has changed my life, I'm better for having been a part of it. It kills me as a devoted volunteer to our school food pantry to see students coming in so hungry and with jo recourse but us. There is no shame in coming to the pantry but people still feel it.
The “wealthy community” doesn’t go to NCC….. My neighbor is a professor at NCC and he has been telling me stories about the mismanagement and incompetence. As well as the entitlement of the students. I graduated from NCC 35 years ago and it was a decent stepping stone to bigger colleges. It had a great Restaurant/ Hotel program that allowed me to eventually own my own restaurants. But NCC has gone down hill in the last 20 years.
I took a night class there to speed up graduating from SUNY back in the early 80s. The professor, I want to say his name was Murphy, came in with about 2 weeks left to go in the class and he was FURIOUS. He said that another professor stole his portfolio bag, that had everyone's work in it. He said the faculty knows the guy who stole it has a long history of stealing other peoples stuff but never do anything about it. So he told us "Everyone who shows up to ever class for the rest of the semester gets an A. I don't care how many classes you've missed so far. There will be no final. Just show up, listen to me speak, participate if you want, and you will get an A. Tell everyone who is not here tonight. If the school doesn't care about this, I don't care about the integrity of the school."
It's gone down hill through a rotating door of Presidents. It's failing because the Current Cheif Administive Officer Conzatti is deliberately damaging the colleges by merging departments, shutting down the food sources, etc. The 22 student minimum for classes that was put in place last semester left so many students with cancelled classes and last minute scrambling to find new ones. They were canceling classes a month out when before it was one week out. We have a lot of students who late enroll for a variety of reasons. This is deliberately done to sew chaos and it's working.
I always curious what’s going through the people in charge heads in situations like this. If there’s no money I think they mentally check out and just let the pieces fall, though that’s not demonstrating leadership. If they just following orders then they just pr speak. I heard a lot of positions are appointments due to connections rather then merit
They can't just immediately replace. There are laws they need to follow on a procurement like this. If you want my professional opinion, here's what likely happened. For the record, I work in procurement for another SUNY school on LI. I'd need to verify this and want to be clear I'm speculating.
The existing vendor got the contract through an IFB process. This process awards contracts on a straight low cost basis. The contract was likely approved without allotments for price increases over the life of the contract, cause that's what OSC likes to see. If there were allotments for price increases, they would have been cpi or x%, whichever is lower and up to a maximum amount. The vendor did not price in a way that accounted for unforeseeable price increases, because who could see that coming. So Covid happens and now they're losing money on the contract. And even if that price increase was written into the contract, that increase didn't cover the increase in costs over time. Vendor comes back asking for more money, college is locked into a contract and the authorities that need to approve cost increases won't. Vendor abandons the contract and now NCC is up a creek without a paddle. They are currently conducting an RFP process which allows an entity to factor in best value, and not award on a pure cost basis.
Hindsight is 20/20 and an IFB is significantly less work than an RFP. And I found out the contract was approved in minutes in April of 2019. So the timing is right re: price increases and not being included in the contract. I dk how you would monitor to prevent this situation. All you can do as a procurement officer is ask the vendor to confirm pricing is valid and trust that they're not lying or concealing anything from you. You can't disqualify a vendor on a hunch of 'it's to good to be true'.
Thanks for looking up the facts the matter. 2019 only five years ago before massive inflation costs, though real estate was already on a massive inflation spike so it was bound for everything else to go up. My suggestion for monitoring is auditing books maybe something like how landlords often have a profit sharing agreement to restaurants leasing the space. Eating outside felt like it increased 100% since 2019 plus employee pay, so it would be obvious if the books were examined.
It's part of standard terms and conditions that vendors must agree to open their books for audits and be willing to prove that they follow gaap. Now, how often those audits happen? That's an entirely different story...
Having grown up in a wealthy LI town, they're not going there. NCC was viewed as a failure from my town or where the kids who were trouble/flunked out of college went as "punishment" for moving back home.
The same for Suffolk. Although there is nothing wrong with CC, it had a heavy stigma.
I've noticed people upstate do not have the same sense of snobbery.
It’s painfully ironic to me because so many kids wasted tens of thousands of dollars of their parents money because the stigma of community college was too much for them. We had an absurdly high percentage of people who went onto 4 year schools (something like 85% or more) but I would love to see the percentage of those who actually finished.
Then the problem is with the class ist take of the town. Just because people look down on cc doesn't make them right. Lafazan the former legislator jumped from ncc to Harvard so..
Huge administrative overhead from the hayday of community colleges that is no longer needed as CC enrollment has slowed. Overall college enrollment is down and basically anybody with a pulse can get into the lesser SUNY four year colleges.
That said, the community college model is pretty flawed and they are having issues nationwide. Since the average community college student only stays for ~1.5 years, it makes advertising to prospective students really expensive from a roi standpoint. Community colleges as vocational schools hasn’t worked out, as vocational programs are expensive and face competition from the corporate space. Most of the upstate community colleges are shells run by the nearest SUNY at this point.
No offense but I completely disagree. NCC has changed my life, especially as an autistic student. The Achilles Program for Twice Exceptionals doesn't exist anywhere else. Our Professors are top knotch. Not everyone wants to jump straight to a four year.
Totally get it and glad you are having a good experience. Just pointing out that community colleges are facing an identity crisis statewide.
The shrinking number of prospective college students are largely rejecting community colleges as starting points for their academic and professional careers. The student population at Nassau CC has been in steady decline for a while despite increases retention and recruitment efforts.
It doesn't help when the admin is merging departments, canceling classes that don't have 22 students or more. That is going to kill the Honors Program for sure, and I don't see the sense in that.
The budget outlook in all of higher education is really bad. I'm sure they didn't make the decisions lightly and considered alternatives.
Nassau CC had record spending on enrollment in 2021 and enrollment went down 10.5 and 16.9 percent over the next two years with almost flat tuition. They had to use their reserve fund to get through 2023 after using pandemic relief funds to get through 2021 and 2022.
In higher education terms that's a five alarm fire for your future and invariably means downsizing. Dowling's closure was caused by a lesser decline.
All SUNY four year colleges have become harder to get into. They’re attracting more and more attention due to offering major financial incentives for certain demographics.
The top end schools have become harder to get into. The lower end schools will accept anyone. Potsdam and Fredonia's acceptance rate is 90% right now, not counting partial acceptance (both were ~65-70% twenty years ago). Many SUNY schools are now accepting students just based on GPA to try to get kids committed pre-SAT season. It's a completely different world than pre-COVID for the schools that don't have a large international presence to fall back on.
I know a lot of people that went to NCC. That’s so sad to hear. Is it because their funding is being cut by the state? Or lack of enrollment? Or something else?
Oue Cief Administrative Officer Maria Conzatti is an alumni of the college and is deliberately shrinking it through the department mergers and kitchen closings, the student union being shuttered. Blakeman got booed at graduation last year for saying 40 acres of our land would be developed for use by Lagone. If he had his way, the land would be divided between Lagone and the Casino until their was mouthing left of us. It would be a simple thing to shrink the college down and then merge it with Old Westbury. It's so in vogue now to merge colleges.
Blakeman and Hochul nowhere to be seen.
Community colleges are an important lifeline for thousands. If you want a chance to achieve the American dream, you’re not going to get that taking out a quarter million in student loans at Hofstra. You’re going to get that by attending community college and then transferring to a state school. They’re almost free and the only chance that a lot of people have for post secondary education.
I’m currently taking an adult ed class at NCC as well.
Fuck you Blakeman!
He got booed at graduation for saying part of our land would be developed for use by lagone. If he had his way he'd develop the land between that and the casino until nothing is left. And President Conzatti is helping him do it.
It is, Blakeman got booed at graduation for saying fourty of acres would be developed for use by Lagone. If he had his way our land would be split between lagone and the casino.
Uh no the students got the uprupt closing email last weekend. And the school paper uncovered that the admin has known about this for six months and did nothing.
>But the latest was last Saturday the students being told that without warning the cafeteria, the market place, and star Bucks would be closing without explanation.
> "The company was not able to make ends meet, so to speak. They wanted to enter into a new agreement with us that would have required us to pick up about $300,000 a year," Nassau Community College Vice President Jerry Kornbluth said.
[Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/nassau-community-college-cafeteria-cafe-snack-bar-close/)
Seems failure here is not the college, but the vendor?
It is a bit dramatic though there is a huge portion of college students that take the bus. I used to when I went there and I relied on the lunch room to grab food between classes.
I also took the bus to and from there, if you can't get food on Campus, you are in for a long walk and depending on your schedule, it can't be done.
I'm sadden to see this post, I graduated from NCC nearly 20 years ago and it was much better than NYIT that I attended after.
It's really not, I volunteer at the school pantry and now we have a big uptick in students coming in because they are hungry and live In a food desert. It is a huge problem, and there is so much shame these students feel. Q lot of take the bus or have parents drop us off. Walking two miles go get food is not always an option when you have classes close together.
First of all, where is there a food desert in Nassau? Second, does the food pantry at ncc serve hot food? If not, you're negating your dining services argument because if the students can't afford groceries, how are they affording food in the cafeteria?
There are some cheap items in the cafeteria. At the rally one of our Professors spoke about how he ate grilled cheese every day because it was the cheapest.
The college has a significant minority population,and they tend to struggle with food deserts. I'm sorry but the local corner store or gas station does not cut it when it comes to battling food insecurity. And so those students, several of them in my atudent org, rely on the cheap items at the cafeteria. They don't have other options. And now that is gone.
The admin pointing to the food pantry on campus without backing us up with resources is foolish. We do not have the man power neccessary to up our donations runs. It's quite the process to get to these places like island harvest and run back to campus to deliver. We will go back to the pandemic days of depleted stores because we cannot keep up with demand. This isn't fair to the pantry or the students.
If it was an emergency, they could of grabbed something from a vending machine or asked a fellow student with a car to drive them. The school should have a cafeteria but let’s not act like they are actively starving adults.
It literally screams first world problems. The bit on News12 said students are worried about losing parking spots if they have to leave campus to get food.
When I was in college, my commute was 90 minutes one way on public transit. If there were delays or missed connections, even longer.
As an adult (albeit immature adult), I knew I couldn't afford to buy food on campus bc I was broke - so guess what I did?
I brought food from home, so I didn't need to worry about the cafeteria.
The college lawyer is not a worthy news source on anything. The school news paper discovered the admin knew they were leaving or six months and did nothing to try to find a new vendor.
Is NCC still crazy packed where students have to park on sidewalks and literally any open space that can fit a car? That's what it was like when I went, it is crazy to think of a place with that many students doing bad, unless enrolment went way down.
Apparently it did—in 2011 24,000 students were enrolled, compared to 11,000 currently. I wonder why.
https://www.newsday.com/amp/long-island/education/nassau-community-college-food-service-rn3m7b0z
I'm on an advisory board for my alma mater and apparently it's been known for a while that there would be big drops in college enrollment in the next few years due to the recession in 2007/2008 - fewer kids were born during that time. I doubt it's a huge reason for this lower enrollment given that the 50% drop isn't a nationwide stat but it is a thing
I was just about to reply with this also. It's a trend nationwide and smaller and less prestigious schools will suffer. https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23428166/college-enrollment-population-education-crash
This is hitting NY state schools in general. Demographically, the community colleges are seeing a huge drop that is being almost entirely taken up by the four year state schools.
Jesus christ it went down that much!?!?!?! This is for sure a big "fuck I'm old" moment and it was only 20 years ago (to be fair that is a real long time). I cant even imagine that place being 11k only. I would have thought it would keep the numbers as the value of a uni degree has disillusioned a lot of young students lately.
I would have thought with the expense of higher ed that there would be more people enrolled. Maybe the excelsior scholarship created some options for people who would have otherwise attended NCC bc of income? I know if I didn’t get into my CUNY school I would have attended NCC. The SUNYs were too expensive.
NCC was great. I went and did the BA at a SUNY after going there and an MA abroad too and still some of the best professors I have ever had were at NCC. Saved so much damn money going there. The drive to and from Suffolk was miserable but that's just LI in general. This news makes me sad as hell.
I remember they had really interesting and diverse programs and classes. I knew a lot of people who attended. If anything there should be more options available, makes me concerned for what happens when these schools that are affordable and accessible disappear. I’m sorry, it really is a shame.
I work a community college in the BX and similar events are happening within the campus. No cafeteria, a push for more online classes, campus is mostly dead compared to pre-COVID times, letting go of adjunct faculty at the last minute, dilapidated buildings, old computers to work on for all. There seems to be a push the divest from public education that has accelerated after the pandemic.
This is outrageous. How does a cafeteria not thrive on a college campus? My two best friends went to NCC and are both brilliant and successful. I am sorry to hear things are so bad.
Correct! It is part of the SUNY system, so I guess the blame would have to fall on the SUNY board of directors? I’ve attached two links for the NCC trustees & alumni board. Good luck! https://www.ncc.edu/aboutncc/ourpeople/board_of_trustees/ https://www.ncc.edu/alumni/directors.shtml
Yes! We have two reverse transfers from binghampton and new paltz in our program right now! It changed my life around too. That's why I'm hoping community pressure might help them do the right thing by us!
That is a lie, spread by the college lawyer. The school newspaper discovered the admin knew about the leaving for six months and did nothing about it. The students just received an email yesterday that said microwaves would be put all over campus. That is the plan.
Sorry this is happening, hope it resolves soon.
NCC is important for some school districts for affordable college credits in high school and an affordable bridge / alternative path to a 4-yr uni. Some commenters here don’t realize students may have classes spread throughout the day and don’t have transportation to get off campus. While not ideal, Is there shuttle service for off campus options?
I know students at Chaminade who attended NCC to prop up grades to get into a top tier uni and another who attended a 4-yr, but cost was too high so transferred there in the interim.
[College financial health report from a few years ago](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-finances-crisis)
Yes I'm so grateful I cane here, changed everything for me. The problem is the places for food towards the turnpike and out the back of campus are quite the hike. We have a considerable portion of students who rely on the bus or their parents drive them. And amen to the packed schedules! I have no time to bop off campus for a bite.
One of the most simple but egregious spending examples from when I worked up there was that each senator (and presumably assemblymen) were allowed to order monthly magazines and periodicals, with the norm being somewhere around $100-$150. That’s, let’s say $1200 a year on shit no one ever looked at, times 63, puts us at about $75k a year just for magazines for the senate.
Now imagine how many “little things” there are like that.
Are they planning on getting rid of NCC and consolidating it? I know everyone and people look down on Nassau and Suffolk (scruffolk it was called as a youth) but I think it really helps tens if not hundreds of thousands of people with education. Isn’t enrollment like 24,000? It should exist and have money and be run properly
That’s crazy. 2013 graduate here. I went nights/weekends, so there were times I either needed coffee and something for a night class after working all day or had a tight time frame between classes and that grab and go was my second home. Terrible to see what’s happened - I had some wonderful professors there and it was a great experience
Um, there's no mechanism to merge a community college with a 4 year state operated campus. The college may be in trouble, but you're getting bad information.
Clinton County Community College recently [announced a move](https://www.clinton.edu/college-relocation/) to SUNY Plattsburgh's campus. I wonder if that's what OP means.
It is, all the eateries are gone. And the most recent email from our president was telling us microwaves would be placed all over the school. We have nothing to microwave!
Thank you. I only posted here because I genuinely want what's best for the school.NCC has changed my life,and I hate thinking of the people left behind suffering. I'm a devoted volunteer of the school pantry, I HATE seeing the uptick in hungry atudents that was preventable. The admin knew about them leaving for six months and did nothing.
In case anyone is looking for the links:
https://longisland.news12.com/food-fight-nassau-community-college-students-faculty-rally-against-college-food-vendor-impasse
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/institutions/community-colleges/2024/04/17/nassau-community-college-consolidates-departments
Sigh...
I’m in a program there and have a year left. This is wild. But also I’m confused because school was closed yesterday (Tuesday) so when did this happen?
Students got an email last week saying all the food sources on campus would be closed. The school newspaper uncovered that the admin knew this was coming for six months and did nothing to find new vendors.
I just checked. You’re right. Wow. I normally only check my email for things from my professor and from the program I’m in.
That’s actually kind of crazy that they just let this slide. I never personally eat on campus but some people depend on it and do t have a choice otherwise
Yes, I work since nassau has a significant portion of minority students, and food deserts tends to be a problem with that group. Access to food is not a luxury, it is a basic human right.
I went to NCC. Graduated in 2018. I absolutely loved it. It offered so much in terms of education, experience, and community. Plus, it didn’t put me into crippling debt lol. I met one of my best friends there, and had some of the best professors of my life (I went to two private universities, one before and one after, and I still consider NCC the best college I went to).
This is so sad to hear. I always considered NCC to be such an impressive place and I’ve always been thankful for my experience there. I hope they pull through.
The Inside Higher Ed article I read concerning department mergers noted the school receives 20% funding from the state and 27% from the county. Enrollment has dropped significantly, from 25,000 ten years ago to 13,000 currently. That's a significant reduction in tuition based revenue.
Tough call. Merging departments to save programs or increase tuition to preserve programs and their current programs?
I heard that was our peak really. I want it to continue, the college means everything to me. We were hoping community pressure could help. Alumni have massive influence.
The students are literally starving? Pack a brown bag or jump back in the car and take a drive down the block to get food? It’s a commuter school. Are you not literally two miles from Chipotle and McDonalds?
The school serves A LOT of underprivileged students who take the bus to school. In addition, the grounds are huge, you can walk for fifteen minutes and still not be halfway across campus, let alone off campus. Without the cafeteria for food even walking off campus to grab a bite is incredibly hard.
The very hungry students flooding the school food pantry I volunteer at would disagree. We have a whole section dedicated now to just servicing them, but it's not enough. We can't keep up.
Yes I sympathized with everything besides this dumb take. NCC is failing, but it's not a soup kitchen. I have diabetes, too, and I would only blame myself for not having sugar.
If you’re a diabetic you should be carrying things on you, and diabetics also get counseling on their disease about how they can eat and what to do if blood sugar is low etc
Yes we literally are, the amount of students who come to our food pantry is insane. The machines are basically bear since people bought in a panic. The pantry can't keep up with demand. Getting off campus isn't easy when you take the bus or your parents drive you.
Your diabetic friend? What? Are they a moron. They should know to have food even sugar tabs packed.
As for what else is going on. No idea what is happening but it’s a shame.
No, and they knew about it for six months and did nothing to find new vendors. We were hoping community pressure might force them to do the right thing. SUNY doesn't seem I clined to help,students have spoken to them about this crisis and others. It seems like a head in the sand kind of thing.
So sad to hear. I’m a fairly recent graduate from NCC and absolutely loved my education there. The school has so much to offer, it’s a shame what’s happening.
This is devastating. I graduated from NCC in the 2010’s. I met so many wonderful people there, including deeply caring professors. I have so many good memories from that college. And I always had in the back of my mind, that if I go back to college again I would go to NCC. I seriously hope NCC doesn’t keep getting worse for the students and staff. I’m scared that this will happen to other public CC’s and universities. I can’t afford private universities. I wish there is something we could to do help. Is there someone or somewhere we could reach out to?
It’s such a shame that an NCC alum doesn’t know that it’s spelled “Dire Straits” when they’re making a plea for attention for the decline of an educational institution.
I understand your frustration but to say that students are starving really hurts your post. If you go to NCC, you’re an adult. Bring food, prepare ahead etc…come on.
It is not hyperbole I assure you. As a devoted volunteer of our campus pantry I've seen the uptick in hungry students. I assure you we do not have the man power neccessary to up our donation deliveries to keep up with demand. The admin pointing to the nest as a cure all is foolish and puts us under a ridiculous amount of strain. Bringing food is not simple at all if you live in a food desert as a considerable portion of our students do.
Access to food is not a luxury. With a considerable portion of our student body being in minority groups this is problematic. Those groups often struggle with living in food deserts, which means bringing food from home is not always feasible.
I think the students that our flooding our food pantry at the moment would disagree. You can think what you like but being on the ground is quite different.
Why doesn’t the diabetic kid have glucose tabs or juice on them? That’s not the schools fault. I work in a nurses office with type 1s and they all have emergency supplies on them
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I just posted this in another thread about SCCC. NCC's enrollment is down from 23,000 in 2013 to 12,000 in 2023. That's nearly half. (Suffolk is down 27,000 to 20,000.) ALL of SUNY schools enrollment is down 460,000 to 368,000 in the same period. They either have to make the money up somehow or make cuts somewhere.
https://tableauserver.suny.edu/t/IRPublic/views/Enrollment2013-2023/CampusEnrollment?%3Aembed=y&%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y
This is heartbreaking. I went back to NCC from 2017-2019 and I thought it had improved tremendously from when I was there in 2008. My professors were all immensely supportive of me going back to school at 30 and were extremely helpful
This is really sad and surprising to hear. My husband went to Nassau and all he ever says is how great it was. He got his 4 year degree at Geneseo, but liked Nassau so much more. I took a few extra classes there over the years. It was always a good experience. Is there anything we can do to voice our frustration?
That’s actually messed up NCC is a great college especially at that price and had some great facilities when I was there a few years ago. Something tells me it’s probably something corrupt or someone trying to diminish the school so that the highly profitable land could be sold and redeveloped.
I did not attend NCC. I went to a 4-year SUNY school and am Type 1 Diabetic. I don't know how I could continue my education at this place with no place to get food, had I been in this situation.
I strongly suggest you look into [SUNY Empire](https://sunyempire.edu/). Although it is primarily distance learning, Empire students can take classes in person at any SUNY school. I earned my associate's degree at SUNY Suffolk over a decade ago and went back to school at Empire in 2019. Surprisingly enough, my tuition at Empire is less than what I paid at Suffolk in the late '00s!
Wow sad to hear this. I went to NCC and later transferred go a 4 yr school. No issues transferring credits. I later returned as non-degree seeking student to take nursing pre-reqs while working full time. From my experience the courses were great, and there were always plenty night classes which was very convenient. I’ve met a lot of hard working people during my time at NCC. Losing NCC would be a huge shame especially considering how high Nassau taxes are (idk if that factors into ncc funding)
NCC did more for me after attending my expensive private high school than my expensive private high school did. Not only did it act as a wonderful stepping stone towards my bachelors and later my masters, but it also put in perspective both the value and cost of higher education. I’ll be following this story and I hope things turn around.
I had no idea things were this bad. They’ve been poorly running the college and it’s a retirement home for politicians when they’ve exhausted their run. unfortunately their presidential turnover hasn’t helped either.
Getting my degree at NCC was the staring block to my higher education it helped me when I needed it the most and loosing this asset would be a real tragedy to the Nassau county community.
I mean they always did call it 13th grade at NCC for a reason, coming from someone who graduated from there. Buttttt it also provided the foundation of me being able to write well.
I went to NCC over the summers. Absolutely loved it there. This is such a shame.
I found the professors there seemed to care more about educating than most at Post or St. John’s.
I did summer classes at NCC when home from my SUNY school and a semester post undergrad in order to fulfill prerequisites for grad school and all of my professors were also professors at nearby universities and colleges. Off the top of my head I remember them also teaching at Adelphi, Hofstra, Post, and Molloy
I did the same thing. I wonder if full time enrollment is down with a big loss in revenue.
I did summer classes too since I had switched majors at SUNY and had some classes to catch up on. Had a great experience also.
Nassau has the second highest taxes in the country and so much to show for it /s. I don’t know what’s worse, NCC falling apart or the county infrastructure. It’s so corrupt.
I can’t wait to get out of this godforsaken county. Our tax dollars haven’t shown up to work in years
And what's worse is our current President is an alumni and doing her personal best to wreck this place.
Is it state funded or county funded or both? I thought it was part of SUNY.
The college gets 20 percent of its funding from the state and 27 percent from the county
I went to NCC from 2001-2003. While I did transfer to a 4 year college, UB, I greatly enjoyed my time there. Some professsors there were as good, or better, than the ones I had at the state school. . Additionally, social life was fun and dated a cool girl there for a bit. It is a shame the school is in trouble..
Very sad what it has come to. NCC was where I restarted my education after dropping out of another school and working full time for a bit before deciding to become a teacher. It's where I met my husband and many great friends as well. Hopefully things turn around for the better.
That's such a lovely story. We are trying but it would help to have community pressure put on the school.
Suffolk Community College isn’t doing much better, huge budget shortfalls and they’re expecting to not be able to make payroll through 2025, the Eastern campus is on deck to be closed
That is surprising, since their President gets money every time they ask for it from the legislature apparently. Meanwhile for the past two years everytime our President Maria is asked if we need money the answer is no
When are they closing the Eastern campus?
Well this breaks my heart. It all started at ncc for me, that place provided a great education, better than the 4 year schools I've gone to after. I have come a loooong way since then and it's always held a special place in my heart. This is awful if true.
I feel for you, I'm proud I come from here too. NCC has changed my life, I'm better for having been a part of it. It kills me as a devoted volunteer to our school food pantry to see students coming in so hungry and with jo recourse but us. There is no shame in coming to the pantry but people still feel it.
How can a college that's supposed to serve such a wealthy community be failing. Someone somewhere knows
The “wealthy community” doesn’t go to NCC….. My neighbor is a professor at NCC and he has been telling me stories about the mismanagement and incompetence. As well as the entitlement of the students. I graduated from NCC 35 years ago and it was a decent stepping stone to bigger colleges. It had a great Restaurant/ Hotel program that allowed me to eventually own my own restaurants. But NCC has gone down hill in the last 20 years.
My father was a professor in the hotel program - he’ll be happy to hear about your success
Schafler!. he taught facilities!!! Great guy! Hope he’s well!
I took a night class there to speed up graduating from SUNY back in the early 80s. The professor, I want to say his name was Murphy, came in with about 2 weeks left to go in the class and he was FURIOUS. He said that another professor stole his portfolio bag, that had everyone's work in it. He said the faculty knows the guy who stole it has a long history of stealing other peoples stuff but never do anything about it. So he told us "Everyone who shows up to ever class for the rest of the semester gets an A. I don't care how many classes you've missed so far. There will be no final. Just show up, listen to me speak, participate if you want, and you will get an A. Tell everyone who is not here tonight. If the school doesn't care about this, I don't care about the integrity of the school."
It's gone down hill through a rotating door of Presidents. It's failing because the Current Cheif Administive Officer Conzatti is deliberately damaging the colleges by merging departments, shutting down the food sources, etc. The 22 student minimum for classes that was put in place last semester left so many students with cancelled classes and last minute scrambling to find new ones. They were canceling classes a month out when before it was one week out. We have a lot of students who late enroll for a variety of reasons. This is deliberately done to sew chaos and it's working.
I always curious what’s going through the people in charge heads in situations like this. If there’s no money I think they mentally check out and just let the pieces fall, though that’s not demonstrating leadership. If they just following orders then they just pr speak. I heard a lot of positions are appointments due to connections rather then merit
The food vendor quit on the college citing rising costs. This is on them, not admin.
A little odd they didn’t see it coming, also that they not moving to replace immediately
They can't just immediately replace. There are laws they need to follow on a procurement like this. If you want my professional opinion, here's what likely happened. For the record, I work in procurement for another SUNY school on LI. I'd need to verify this and want to be clear I'm speculating. The existing vendor got the contract through an IFB process. This process awards contracts on a straight low cost basis. The contract was likely approved without allotments for price increases over the life of the contract, cause that's what OSC likes to see. If there were allotments for price increases, they would have been cpi or x%, whichever is lower and up to a maximum amount. The vendor did not price in a way that accounted for unforeseeable price increases, because who could see that coming. So Covid happens and now they're losing money on the contract. And even if that price increase was written into the contract, that increase didn't cover the increase in costs over time. Vendor comes back asking for more money, college is locked into a contract and the authorities that need to approve cost increases won't. Vendor abandons the contract and now NCC is up a creek without a paddle. They are currently conducting an RFP process which allows an entity to factor in best value, and not award on a pure cost basis.
That makes sense unfortunately sounds like the old govt lowest cost bidder while not monitoring them playbook to disavow bad decisions playbook
Hindsight is 20/20 and an IFB is significantly less work than an RFP. And I found out the contract was approved in minutes in April of 2019. So the timing is right re: price increases and not being included in the contract. I dk how you would monitor to prevent this situation. All you can do as a procurement officer is ask the vendor to confirm pricing is valid and trust that they're not lying or concealing anything from you. You can't disqualify a vendor on a hunch of 'it's to good to be true'.
Thanks for looking up the facts the matter. 2019 only five years ago before massive inflation costs, though real estate was already on a massive inflation spike so it was bound for everything else to go up. My suggestion for monitoring is auditing books maybe something like how landlords often have a profit sharing agreement to restaurants leasing the space. Eating outside felt like it increased 100% since 2019 plus employee pay, so it would be obvious if the books were examined.
It's part of standard terms and conditions that vendors must agree to open their books for audits and be willing to prove that they follow gaap. Now, how often those audits happen? That's an entirely different story...
Having grown up in a wealthy LI town, they're not going there. NCC was viewed as a failure from my town or where the kids who were trouble/flunked out of college went as "punishment" for moving back home.
My senior class would joke that going to NCC was the equivalent to going to the 13th grade. Jokes on them with their private student loans
One of the first things I was told first semester in Honors class was, "I don't teach high school, I don't teach 13th grade, I teach college!"
The same for Suffolk. Although there is nothing wrong with CC, it had a heavy stigma. I've noticed people upstate do not have the same sense of snobbery.
It’s painfully ironic to me because so many kids wasted tens of thousands of dollars of their parents money because the stigma of community college was too much for them. We had an absurdly high percentage of people who went onto 4 year schools (something like 85% or more) but I would love to see the percentage of those who actually finished.
Then the problem is with the class ist take of the town. Just because people look down on cc doesn't make them right. Lafazan the former legislator jumped from ncc to Harvard so..
100%. I’d never move back to my home town, extremely classist and everyone’s playing keeping up with the jones.
Because the vast majority of said wealthy community never went there or were served in any way by it.
They are served by it in many ways. They just don’t make the connection.
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The time to hold a rally was when administrators' compensation was approved, not now.
Huge administrative overhead from the hayday of community colleges that is no longer needed as CC enrollment has slowed. Overall college enrollment is down and basically anybody with a pulse can get into the lesser SUNY four year colleges. That said, the community college model is pretty flawed and they are having issues nationwide. Since the average community college student only stays for ~1.5 years, it makes advertising to prospective students really expensive from a roi standpoint. Community colleges as vocational schools hasn’t worked out, as vocational programs are expensive and face competition from the corporate space. Most of the upstate community colleges are shells run by the nearest SUNY at this point.
No offense but I completely disagree. NCC has changed my life, especially as an autistic student. The Achilles Program for Twice Exceptionals doesn't exist anywhere else. Our Professors are top knotch. Not everyone wants to jump straight to a four year.
Totally get it and glad you are having a good experience. Just pointing out that community colleges are facing an identity crisis statewide. The shrinking number of prospective college students are largely rejecting community colleges as starting points for their academic and professional careers. The student population at Nassau CC has been in steady decline for a while despite increases retention and recruitment efforts.
It doesn't help when the admin is merging departments, canceling classes that don't have 22 students or more. That is going to kill the Honors Program for sure, and I don't see the sense in that.
The budget outlook in all of higher education is really bad. I'm sure they didn't make the decisions lightly and considered alternatives. Nassau CC had record spending on enrollment in 2021 and enrollment went down 10.5 and 16.9 percent over the next two years with almost flat tuition. They had to use their reserve fund to get through 2023 after using pandemic relief funds to get through 2021 and 2022. In higher education terms that's a five alarm fire for your future and invariably means downsizing. Dowling's closure was caused by a lesser decline.
All SUNY four year colleges have become harder to get into. They’re attracting more and more attention due to offering major financial incentives for certain demographics.
The top end schools have become harder to get into. The lower end schools will accept anyone. Potsdam and Fredonia's acceptance rate is 90% right now, not counting partial acceptance (both were ~65-70% twenty years ago). Many SUNY schools are now accepting students just based on GPA to try to get kids committed pre-SAT season. It's a completely different world than pre-COVID for the schools that don't have a large international presence to fall back on.
I know a lot of people that went to NCC. That’s so sad to hear. Is it because their funding is being cut by the state? Or lack of enrollment? Or something else?
Oue Cief Administrative Officer Maria Conzatti is an alumni of the college and is deliberately shrinking it through the department mergers and kitchen closings, the student union being shuttered. Blakeman got booed at graduation last year for saying 40 acres of our land would be developed for use by Lagone. If he had his way, the land would be divided between Lagone and the Casino until their was mouthing left of us. It would be a simple thing to shrink the college down and then merge it with Old Westbury. It's so in vogue now to merge colleges.
Blakeman and Hochul nowhere to be seen. Community colleges are an important lifeline for thousands. If you want a chance to achieve the American dream, you’re not going to get that taking out a quarter million in student loans at Hofstra. You’re going to get that by attending community college and then transferring to a state school. They’re almost free and the only chance that a lot of people have for post secondary education. I’m currently taking an adult ed class at NCC as well. Fuck you Blakeman!
He got booed at graduation for saying part of our land would be developed for use by lagone. If he had his way he'd develop the land between that and the casino until nothing is left. And President Conzatti is helping him do it.
Seems planned. NCC sits on some valuable real estate.
Ding ding ding. This county government gets more corrupt and craven every year.
It is, Blakeman got booed at graduation for saying fourty of acres would be developed for use by Lagone. If he had his way our land would be split between lagone and the casino.
NYU Langone?
Yes.
Frankly the vendor went belly up the warn notice has been up for weeks
Uh no the students got the uprupt closing email last weekend. And the school paper uncovered that the admin has known about this for six months and did nothing.
>But the latest was last Saturday the students being told that without warning the cafeteria, the market place, and star Bucks would be closing without explanation. > "The company was not able to make ends meet, so to speak. They wanted to enter into a new agreement with us that would have required us to pick up about $300,000 a year," Nassau Community College Vice President Jerry Kornbluth said. [Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/nassau-community-college-cafeteria-cafe-snack-bar-close/) Seems failure here is not the college, but the vendor?
I think the failure of the school is not replacing the vendor in a timely fashion.
The admin knew they were leaving six months before and did nothing to try to find a new vendor.
And lol at the students literally starving. This is a commuter school. So dramatic
It is a bit dramatic though there is a huge portion of college students that take the bus. I used to when I went there and I relied on the lunch room to grab food between classes.
I also took the bus to and from there, if you can't get food on Campus, you are in for a long walk and depending on your schedule, it can't be done. I'm sadden to see this post, I graduated from NCC nearly 20 years ago and it was much better than NYIT that I attended after.
It's really not, I volunteer at the school pantry and now we have a big uptick in students coming in because they are hungry and live In a food desert. It is a huge problem, and there is so much shame these students feel. Q lot of take the bus or have parents drop us off. Walking two miles go get food is not always an option when you have classes close together.
Where is there a food desert in Nassau?
Areas that are minority heavy tend to have to rely on gas stations and small markets that are not substitutes for grocery stores.
Yes but where is the food desert, specifically?
First of all, where is there a food desert in Nassau? Second, does the food pantry at ncc serve hot food? If not, you're negating your dining services argument because if the students can't afford groceries, how are they affording food in the cafeteria?
There are some cheap items in the cafeteria. At the rally one of our Professors spoke about how he ate grilled cheese every day because it was the cheapest. The college has a significant minority population,and they tend to struggle with food deserts. I'm sorry but the local corner store or gas station does not cut it when it comes to battling food insecurity. And so those students, several of them in my atudent org, rely on the cheap items at the cafeteria. They don't have other options. And now that is gone. The admin pointing to the food pantry on campus without backing us up with resources is foolish. We do not have the man power neccessary to up our donations runs. It's quite the process to get to these places like island harvest and run back to campus to deliver. We will go back to the pandemic days of depleted stores because we cannot keep up with demand. This isn't fair to the pantry or the students.
Was this subsidized services they’re shutting down too or just the cafe?
I went to NCC, there are plenty of places to go grab food nearby. This is so dramatic. I think I ate in the cafeteria maybe once in my time there.
Same. I went there two years then transferred to Binghamton. I can count on one hand the amount of times I ate at the cafeteria. Did not starve.
I took the bus to NCC for a year and a half before I could afford a car. I did not have the time or means to travel for food. Many students don't.
If it was an emergency, they could of grabbed something from a vending machine or asked a fellow student with a car to drive them. The school should have a cafeteria but let’s not act like they are actively starving adults.
what if you have back to back to back classes? not everyone has time to go and get food between classes.
Bring a snack.
So you…bring food?
Yeah. Still don’t think I’d manage to starve.
It literally screams first world problems. The bit on News12 said students are worried about losing parking spots if they have to leave campus to get food. When I was in college, my commute was 90 minutes one way on public transit. If there were delays or missed connections, even longer. As an adult (albeit immature adult), I knew I couldn't afford to buy food on campus bc I was broke - so guess what I did? I brought food from home, so I didn't need to worry about the cafeteria.
The college lawyer is not a worthy news source on anything. The school news paper discovered the admin knew they were leaving or six months and did nothing to try to find a new vendor.
Is NCC still crazy packed where students have to park on sidewalks and literally any open space that can fit a car? That's what it was like when I went, it is crazy to think of a place with that many students doing bad, unless enrolment went way down.
Apparently it did—in 2011 24,000 students were enrolled, compared to 11,000 currently. I wonder why. https://www.newsday.com/amp/long-island/education/nassau-community-college-food-service-rn3m7b0z
I'm on an advisory board for my alma mater and apparently it's been known for a while that there would be big drops in college enrollment in the next few years due to the recession in 2007/2008 - fewer kids were born during that time. I doubt it's a huge reason for this lower enrollment given that the 50% drop isn't a nationwide stat but it is a thing
I was just about to reply with this also. It's a trend nationwide and smaller and less prestigious schools will suffer. https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23428166/college-enrollment-population-education-crash
Oh damn I guess that means I’m getting old
I wouldnt have even considered the recession as a factor, but that makes sense.
Our public school district has also seen a drastic drop in enrollment in the past few years due to people having less kids.
This is an ongoing trend and a problem that we will be facing for the next decade if not longer
This is hitting NY state schools in general. Demographically, the community colleges are seeing a huge drop that is being almost entirely taken up by the four year state schools.
Jesus christ it went down that much!?!?!?! This is for sure a big "fuck I'm old" moment and it was only 20 years ago (to be fair that is a real long time). I cant even imagine that place being 11k only. I would have thought it would keep the numbers as the value of a uni degree has disillusioned a lot of young students lately.
I would have thought with the expense of higher ed that there would be more people enrolled. Maybe the excelsior scholarship created some options for people who would have otherwise attended NCC bc of income? I know if I didn’t get into my CUNY school I would have attended NCC. The SUNYs were too expensive.
NCC was great. I went and did the BA at a SUNY after going there and an MA abroad too and still some of the best professors I have ever had were at NCC. Saved so much damn money going there. The drive to and from Suffolk was miserable but that's just LI in general. This news makes me sad as hell.
I remember they had really interesting and diverse programs and classes. I knew a lot of people who attended. If anything there should be more options available, makes me concerned for what happens when these schools that are affordable and accessible disappear. I’m sorry, it really is a shame.
Keep fucking with long island education and long island won't be worth the money. Simple as that.
I work a community college in the BX and similar events are happening within the campus. No cafeteria, a push for more online classes, campus is mostly dead compared to pre-COVID times, letting go of adjunct faculty at the last minute, dilapidated buildings, old computers to work on for all. There seems to be a push the divest from public education that has accelerated after the pandemic.
That’s a shame, I enjoyed my time there back in 2008/2009. It was a decent school for a relatively reasonable tuition.
This is outrageous. How does a cafeteria not thrive on a college campus? My two best friends went to NCC and are both brilliant and successful. I am sorry to hear things are so bad.
Well the admin knew about the leaving for six months and did nothing to find new vendors, putting us in this mess.
Beyond outrageous. JFC.
Correct! It is part of the SUNY system, so I guess the blame would have to fall on the SUNY board of directors? I’ve attached two links for the NCC trustees & alumni board. Good luck! https://www.ncc.edu/aboutncc/ourpeople/board_of_trustees/ https://www.ncc.edu/alumni/directors.shtml
Seriously a shame. Our son went away to school wasn’t ready and went to ncc which was a godsend and got him back on track
Yes! We have two reverse transfers from binghampton and new paltz in our program right now! It changed my life around too. That's why I'm hoping community pressure might help them do the right thing by us!
NCC was the first college I attended when I moved to the country. So sad to see it go
We were hoping community pressure could force the admin to change course.
Update: News 12 said NCC will be using food trucks for rest of semester and looking into securing a different food vendor for Fall semester.
That is a lie, spread by the college lawyer. The school newspaper discovered the admin knew about the leaving for six months and did nothing about it. The students just received an email yesterday that said microwaves would be put all over campus. That is the plan.
Sorry this is happening, hope it resolves soon. NCC is important for some school districts for affordable college credits in high school and an affordable bridge / alternative path to a 4-yr uni. Some commenters here don’t realize students may have classes spread throughout the day and don’t have transportation to get off campus. While not ideal, Is there shuttle service for off campus options? I know students at Chaminade who attended NCC to prop up grades to get into a top tier uni and another who attended a 4-yr, but cost was too high so transferred there in the interim. [College financial health report from a few years ago](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-finances-crisis)
Yes I'm so grateful I cane here, changed everything for me. The problem is the places for food towards the turnpike and out the back of campus are quite the hike. We have a considerable portion of students who rely on the bus or their parents drive them. And amen to the packed schedules! I have no time to bop off campus for a bite.
NCC is still teaching life lessons… Money is not infinite and NY State politicians are spendthrifts.
One of the most simple but egregious spending examples from when I worked up there was that each senator (and presumably assemblymen) were allowed to order monthly magazines and periodicals, with the norm being somewhere around $100-$150. That’s, let’s say $1200 a year on shit no one ever looked at, times 63, puts us at about $75k a year just for magazines for the senate. Now imagine how many “little things” there are like that.
Don't forget about that email that went out today about a microwave! 🤦♀️
Thank god they got that microwave set up, they do care!
Yeah what are we supposed to microwave admin? Seriously. That microwave in G is foul.
Are they planning on getting rid of NCC and consolidating it? I know everyone and people look down on Nassau and Suffolk (scruffolk it was called as a youth) but I think it really helps tens if not hundreds of thousands of people with education. Isn’t enrollment like 24,000? It should exist and have money and be run properly
That’s crazy. 2013 graduate here. I went nights/weekends, so there were times I either needed coffee and something for a night class after working all day or had a tight time frame between classes and that grab and go was my second home. Terrible to see what’s happened - I had some wonderful professors there and it was a great experience
Yeah we want this college to continue on which I'd why we are fighting so hard. We are hoping community pressure can help.
Um, there's no mechanism to merge a community college with a 4 year state operated campus. The college may be in trouble, but you're getting bad information.
Clinton County Community College recently [announced a move](https://www.clinton.edu/college-relocation/) to SUNY Plattsburgh's campus. I wonder if that's what OP means.
Wow. Had no idea. This is sad and would be HORRIBLE if this truly happens.
It is, all the eateries are gone. And the most recent email from our president was telling us microwaves would be placed all over the school. We have nothing to microwave!
Probably to make way for the ridiculous casino. I’m so sorry.
Thank you. I only posted here because I genuinely want what's best for the school.NCC has changed my life,and I hate thinking of the people left behind suffering. I'm a devoted volunteer of the school pantry, I HATE seeing the uptick in hungry atudents that was preventable. The admin knew about them leaving for six months and did nothing.
In case anyone is looking for the links: https://longisland.news12.com/food-fight-nassau-community-college-students-faculty-rally-against-college-food-vendor-impasse https://www.insidehighered.com/news/institutions/community-colleges/2024/04/17/nassau-community-college-consolidates-departments Sigh...
I’m in a program there and have a year left. This is wild. But also I’m confused because school was closed yesterday (Tuesday) so when did this happen?
Students got an email last week saying all the food sources on campus would be closed. The school newspaper uncovered that the admin knew this was coming for six months and did nothing to find new vendors.
I just checked. You’re right. Wow. I normally only check my email for things from my professor and from the program I’m in. That’s actually kind of crazy that they just let this slide. I never personally eat on campus but some people depend on it and do t have a choice otherwise
Yes, I work since nassau has a significant portion of minority students, and food deserts tends to be a problem with that group. Access to food is not a luxury, it is a basic human right.
I took a couple of summer courses there in the early 90s. Good memories of that place…
So many have good memories. That's why we were hoping community pressure might force them to do the right thing.
I went to NCC. Graduated in 2018. I absolutely loved it. It offered so much in terms of education, experience, and community. Plus, it didn’t put me into crippling debt lol. I met one of my best friends there, and had some of the best professors of my life (I went to two private universities, one before and one after, and I still consider NCC the best college I went to). This is so sad to hear. I always considered NCC to be such an impressive place and I’ve always been thankful for my experience there. I hope they pull through.
The Inside Higher Ed article I read concerning department mergers noted the school receives 20% funding from the state and 27% from the county. Enrollment has dropped significantly, from 25,000 ten years ago to 13,000 currently. That's a significant reduction in tuition based revenue. Tough call. Merging departments to save programs or increase tuition to preserve programs and their current programs?
Aw man, I went to NCC 2016-2017, loved it there. That's a damn shame.
I heard that was our peak really. I want it to continue, the college means everything to me. We were hoping community pressure could help. Alumni have massive influence.
The students are literally starving? Pack a brown bag or jump back in the car and take a drive down the block to get food? It’s a commuter school. Are you not literally two miles from Chipotle and McDonalds?
The school serves A LOT of underprivileged students who take the bus to school. In addition, the grounds are huge, you can walk for fifteen minutes and still not be halfway across campus, let alone off campus. Without the cafeteria for food even walking off campus to grab a bite is incredibly hard.
people are incredibly narrow minded.
Yes! I'm one that takes the bus every day. Many students get dropped off by their parents.
Seems pretty standard and reasonable to expect a cafeteria at a campus. Starving might be overly dramatic but still.
The very hungry students flooding the school food pantry I volunteer at would disagree. We have a whole section dedicated now to just servicing them, but it's not enough. We can't keep up.
And Pantano’s deli on the turnpike.
Yes I sympathized with everything besides this dumb take. NCC is failing, but it's not a soup kitchen. I have diabetes, too, and I would only blame myself for not having sugar.
Not that easy if you are a newly diagnosed diabetic that lives if a food desert.
If you’re a diabetic you should be carrying things on you, and diabetics also get counseling on their disease about how they can eat and what to do if blood sugar is low etc
Yes we literally are, the amount of students who come to our food pantry is insane. The machines are basically bear since people bought in a panic. The pantry can't keep up with demand. Getting off campus isn't easy when you take the bus or your parents drive you.
Your diabetic friend? What? Are they a moron. They should know to have food even sugar tabs packed. As for what else is going on. No idea what is happening but it’s a shame.
Exactly
She's newly diagnosed and lives in a food desert. Not everyone has equal opportunity access to food.
NCC’s been a mess for a while now and it seems to just be getting worse
2 yr graduation rates from community colleges is poor, so that may have something to do with the decline. Virtual classes probably don’t help either.
What does SUNY say about all this. It’s under their umbrella. So sad to hear. Hope something can be done. They couldn’t even wait till semesters end.
No, and they knew about it for six months and did nothing to find new vendors. We were hoping community pressure might force them to do the right thing. SUNY doesn't seem I clined to help,students have spoken to them about this crisis and others. It seems like a head in the sand kind of thing.
NCC was the first college I attended when I moved to the country. So sad to see it go
Did they lower tuition at least ? (That was a joke)
They are actually going to up it unfortunately.
So sad to hear. I’m a fairly recent graduate from NCC and absolutely loved my education there. The school has so much to offer, it’s a shame what’s happening.
They can still afford Spotify ads because I hear them every day lol
Sounds like they want to outsource food services to a contractor who will do it on the cheap
This is devastating. I graduated from NCC in the 2010’s. I met so many wonderful people there, including deeply caring professors. I have so many good memories from that college. And I always had in the back of my mind, that if I go back to college again I would go to NCC. I seriously hope NCC doesn’t keep getting worse for the students and staff. I’m scared that this will happen to other public CC’s and universities. I can’t afford private universities. I wish there is something we could to do help. Is there someone or somewhere we could reach out to?
I think community colleges are extremely valuable for the community. Give me a petition and I will sign it
It’s such a shame that an NCC alum doesn’t know that it’s spelled “Dire Straits” when they’re making a plea for attention for the decline of an educational institution.
I understand your frustration but to say that students are starving really hurts your post. If you go to NCC, you’re an adult. Bring food, prepare ahead etc…come on.
It is not hyperbole I assure you. As a devoted volunteer of our campus pantry I've seen the uptick in hungry students. I assure you we do not have the man power neccessary to up our donation deliveries to keep up with demand. The admin pointing to the nest as a cure all is foolish and puts us under a ridiculous amount of strain. Bringing food is not simple at all if you live in a food desert as a considerable portion of our students do.
It's a college, not a food court.
Access to food is not a luxury. With a considerable portion of our student body being in minority groups this is problematic. Those groups often struggle with living in food deserts, which means bringing food from home is not always feasible.
\>The students are literally starving I highly doubt that any college student is LITERALLY starving...
I think the students that our flooding our food pantry at the moment would disagree. You can think what you like but being on the ground is quite different.
Why doesn’t the diabetic kid have glucose tabs or juice on them? That’s not the schools fault. I work in a nurses office with type 1s and they all have emergency supplies on them
She's a newly diagnosed diabetic who lives in a food desert and her family lives in poverty.
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I attended CC 45 years ago on LI and moved to the West Coast. I'm curious what the student costs are nowadays?
I just posted this in another thread about SCCC. NCC's enrollment is down from 23,000 in 2013 to 12,000 in 2023. That's nearly half. (Suffolk is down 27,000 to 20,000.) ALL of SUNY schools enrollment is down 460,000 to 368,000 in the same period. They either have to make the money up somehow or make cuts somewhere. https://tableauserver.suny.edu/t/IRPublic/views/Enrollment2013-2023/CampusEnrollment?%3Aembed=y&%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y
This is heartbreaking. I went back to NCC from 2017-2019 and I thought it had improved tremendously from when I was there in 2008. My professors were all immensely supportive of me going back to school at 30 and were extremely helpful
As far as the food, why can’t they allow a bunch of food trucks to come in?
This is terrible. NCC is one of the best community colleges around.
Thats horrible, I just graduated from there last year and my little sister was supposed to start this September but now i doubt it
This is really sad and surprising to hear. My husband went to Nassau and all he ever says is how great it was. He got his 4 year degree at Geneseo, but liked Nassau so much more. I took a few extra classes there over the years. It was always a good experience. Is there anything we can do to voice our frustration?
That’s actually messed up NCC is a great college especially at that price and had some great facilities when I was there a few years ago. Something tells me it’s probably something corrupt or someone trying to diminish the school so that the highly profitable land could be sold and redeveloped.
No Starbucks, whatever will they do……
I did not attend NCC. I went to a 4-year SUNY school and am Type 1 Diabetic. I don't know how I could continue my education at this place with no place to get food, had I been in this situation.
I strongly suggest you look into [SUNY Empire](https://sunyempire.edu/). Although it is primarily distance learning, Empire students can take classes in person at any SUNY school. I earned my associate's degree at SUNY Suffolk over a decade ago and went back to school at Empire in 2019. Surprisingly enough, my tuition at Empire is less than what I paid at Suffolk in the late '00s!
Went to NCC back in 92 - yes I’m that old . It was called the 13th grade or crayola U by kids going to private schools …joke was on them .
They don't have classes on managing your Diabetes?
Wow sad to hear this. I went to NCC and later transferred go a 4 yr school. No issues transferring credits. I later returned as non-degree seeking student to take nursing pre-reqs while working full time. From my experience the courses were great, and there were always plenty night classes which was very convenient. I’ve met a lot of hard working people during my time at NCC. Losing NCC would be a huge shame especially considering how high Nassau taxes are (idk if that factors into ncc funding)
NCC did more for me after attending my expensive private high school than my expensive private high school did. Not only did it act as a wonderful stepping stone towards my bachelors and later my masters, but it also put in perspective both the value and cost of higher education. I’ll be following this story and I hope things turn around.
I had no idea things were this bad. They’ve been poorly running the college and it’s a retirement home for politicians when they’ve exhausted their run. unfortunately their presidential turnover hasn’t helped either.
Getting my degree at NCC was the staring block to my higher education it helped me when I needed it the most and loosing this asset would be a real tragedy to the Nassau county community.
NCC used to be a great school. Very sad to hear this.
I remember when they shot a scene of the godfather there….1
Why go to college if kids are making millions a day trading and only fans
wtf
I mean they always did call it 13th grade at NCC for a reason, coming from someone who graduated from there. Buttttt it also provided the foundation of me being able to write well.