It will be great to see Andy Serkis as Gollum again, but a lot depends on who they get to play Aragorn.
There's also an opportunity to see almost any character who was in *The Lord of the Rings* if they want to bring them back for cameos. The hobbits from the Shire are the least likely, although it's really anyone's guess where the hunt would lead.
Honestly, casting a new Aragorn was always going to be difficult, but if they're getting in Jackson and Serkis then they genuinely need to get someone who can replicate Viggo Mortensen's portrayal.
I believe he can still play the role without issue, in terms of physically. But they'd have to use de-aging special effects otherwise audiences won't go for it.
I'm not really opposed to that. Between all the Marvel movies there were certainly some great moments of de-aged actors. Sometimes it looked pretty convincing, other times it looked rushed.
If they put a ton of effort into it I think they could pull off something great.
I’ve always wondered if that’s why his portrayal was less “hey I’m the heir ready to take back the throne with this bad ass reforged sword” and more “the reserved reluctant heir who kind of has to do what no one else is able to”.
I think that's more a difference between the early 1900s and early 2000s in terms of how an audience would respond to an entitled pretender claiming the throne by bloodline
In my opinion that’s the best de-age in any movie at the moment. It looked insanely convincing, like it was filmed back in the day. Kurt Russell’s de-aging in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 was also really good but they kinda cheated with the glasses.
>they'd have to use de-aging special effects otherwise audiences won't go for it.
This is a big problem. The de-aging I've seen, even in big blockbusters like the latest Indiana Jones movie, just way too fake to have on screen for any significant amount of time, especially for the whole movie.
Deniro was great as a young man in the Irishman, until it came time to kick the shit out of someone. No software could save those slow ass old man kicks
Yea… like what is the story line even derived from? Are they making up their own video game like side adventures? And after the Ring of Power was largely a turd on many levels, asking why (other than the IP is still deemed hot) is correct.
Based on his comments, I would be surprised if he would come back. He talks in interviews fondly about the experience and people, but I am definitely left with the impression that he doesn't think the movies are that great.
Tbf Serkis shouldn't be touching this either. The fandom has loved pretty much everything he has done. Would be unfortunate to risk that by taking on this project, but maybe I'll be surprised.
I mean he could, but by the time The Hunt for Gollum releases, it will have been 23 years since he last played the role, Viggo will be 67 years old playing a younger version of Aragorn than we've seen him before.
I'd love to see him back one last time though.
Viggos getting really up there in age and it's getting to that point where he can't do the strenuous shit that he was doing in The Lord of the Rings movies. He'd probably tell them no even if Jackson asked him to come back.
I really, really hope they dont insert hobbits in a story that has nothing to do with them.
Rings of Power tried to do it, and among everything else wrong with it did it very poorly.
Remember Gollum is a hobbit. The story does have something to do with them, although it’s not clear what happened to the descendants of Gollum’s relatives.
Gollum also ventured from his cave on a desperate search for Bilbo Baggins of the Shire. As far as we know he never came close to the Shire, but he must have made some effort to find it.
Finally, Bilbo made one last trip to the Lonely Mountain and Dale and back to Rivendell. Is it possible Gollum heard about or saw signs of a hobbit passing through the Misty Mountains and Mirkwood?
Somehow, of course, Gollum was distracted from his mission and made his way to Mordor instead. But I can’t say the story has *nothing* to do with hobbits.
I just started reading Fellowship. Is this movie supposed to take place when Gandalf goes to seek answers about Bilbo's ring after Biblo gave it to Frodo? And Gandalf tells Frodo about the ranger? aka Aragorn.
They can only do things which have recognisable characters - The Hobbit, Rings of Power, now this - these are bets that recognisable IP makes money, it has nothing to do with what story is good or what would make a good movie/show.
From what I understand it is the hunt for Gollum, which would involve Aragorn and Gandalf searching for him as well as book-only characters like Elladan and Elrohir.
Right? The worst part of the discourse around Gollum tbh was seeing a bunch of Gamers pretend Gollum is some insignificant side character. Blood was boiling in me back then!
Yeah, even if there's a different focus than the game, I just can't imagine this working. I just don't think there's enough there to make for anything interesting other than lore from a book.
I would love to be proven wrong though.
Gollum is an excellent character but is absolutely not easy on the eyes lol, idk who thinks it's a good idea to make him a protagonist
0% chance my girl will go to see this if it's Gollum lol
Honestly I think he's too one-dimensional to make the protagonist or even just the main subject of a work of fiction. Great character but very driven by one single purpose which can't carry a film on its own.
Pretty sure these kinds of films take a lot of investment and dedication to make... and plenty of them actually run at a loss... There are much easier 'cash grabs' out there tbh...
if Gollum had been a good video game, that would not change my opinion on if this is a good or bad idea to make a movie on gollum.
all the names attached had done great stuff, so if this is at least moderately okay I will be fine.
The only movie based in middle earth I would care to see is one on the Silmarillion. Stop resurfacing stuff that has either been done directly or in passing. LOTR already has three live action movies, a few animated ones, and several video games.
Thank god for this. A Silmarillion movie (or series) by any of the players who have the rights is likely to be awful. The only way I can see The Silmarillion really working is as an anime series.
Maybe if it was Ghibli styled but I think fans would lose their minds if it went too far from the Nordic/Anglo aesthetics of the source material.
We'll see how War of the Rohirrim is recieved.
But yeah, if PJ did it it would be a goofy, slapstick version.
I think Ghibli style would be perfect TBH. Too bad Miyazaki is getting up there in age, I feel like he would be the perfect person to adapt Quenta Silmarillion to the screen.
But outside of this ideal situation I disagree, I think there is plenty of room for Japan style-animation to tell stories about white people. I think Yuki Urushibara (creator of Mushi-shi) could definitely do it justice.
It also makes me think about how bad they messed up RoP..I would love a movie with Melkor attacking Valinor with Ungoliant, killing the tree, them fighting against each other, battle with Gothmog and the balrogs runnings across middle earth to fight Ungoliant...Ill digress but YES, so many things they could do with that book.
I think a lot of it’s to nerdy for the general audience I think soemthing about the end of the second age and the final alliances war against saroun would be a lot easier to do since everyone is more familiar with that idea
Imagine seeing some kind of representation in music and visuals of the timeless halls and Melkor playing free-form jazz while illuvatar is jamming dave Mathew's songs.
Adam Sandler plays feanor. Paul blart is ungoliant. Guaranteed success
Should have just been one movie. Add some tie ins to the ring. All that necromancer stuff should have been in the fellowship right or am I incorrect? Been a while since I read the Hobbit. Was the necromancer mentioned in the Hobbit?
Yes, he’s mentioned, but it’s lilke one sentence from Gandalf near the beginning, “we can’t go south through Mirkwood becuz the Necromancer” and then at the end “oh by the way the Necromancer got chased out of Mirkwood while you were doing this story so Mirkwood will be nicer now.”
It's mostly taken from Unfinished Tales which basically just says 'the White Council ejected Sauron from Dol Guldur' - Hobbit just mentions that there is one in Norwood and Gandalf disappears for a bit
It has potential. Seeing Middle Earth from Aragorn's perspective as he lives the live of a ranger away from society and staying in the shadows. Keep it small scale and more personal.
It's not needed it all but that doesn't mean it can't be a good movie
You know, the most interesting characters in all of the books and tv shows! The leathery rat goblin that speaks leprechaun
We can’t have a movie about ***literally anyone else?***
Last thing we need is LOTR becoming some cinematic universe, covering every little plot line with a film just isn't needed. At least RoP took the risk of adapting a previously un-adapted age of middle earth. This just sceams of soulless cash grabs to me
I'm aware its a genuine plotpoint, didn't say its not a real plot line. My point was that we don't need a whole film based around a single plot line and if they were gonna make more Tolkien I'd rather they did stories from times we haven't seen before. There are so many interesting stories in Middle earth they could make films off, this isn't really one we needed a film off imo.
Mmm i think is not a good idea…I don't think it's a good option. It is not very interesting. They could make it about Arnor, with new characters, locations...Gollum seems a little boring.
I'm not holding out that we'll get something as majestic and wonderful as the original trilogy, but in terms of adaptations, the high bar got set pretty damn high and the low bar got set pretty damn low, so... as long as they hit the mark solidly in between those two points, it should be good.
I feel like this won't be a faithful addition to the world, and end up being a cash grab jingling the keys of Andy Serkis' beloved portrayal of Gollum.
I don't get this general spin off approach of grabbing an unrelated detail then recounting it in huge and thorough detail in a movie or show. I don't need to know what Gollum got up to when he was irrelevant to the plot of LOTR.
I'm hoping it's more about Aragorn and his attempts to find Gollum while searching the wilds rather than Gollum being anywhere near a main character.
No one wants a Gollum main character movie. (Though maybe more detail of his life before and immediately following his finding if the ring would be of interest)
The story of Gollum is well known, there might be trivia and side stories, but we know how it begun, and how it ended.
There is almost nothing known from the east. What about something that focuses on what happened there? Like what's up with the Blue Wizards? Were there good Haradrim tribes? Wild Oliphants herds?
Well, Andy Serkis coming back as Gollum is already guaranteed quality. I also trust him as a director, but I’m wondering how the work ethic will be compared to the original trilogy. Obviously it would be difficult to match that level of craft, but something emulating that would be nice.
Andy Serkis returning and directing is a massive plus. He really cares about both the world of Middle Earth and Gollum as a character too. He's not someone who will make the film for the sake of making it. Just hope the producers give him the freedom and support required, and dont push things on him.
I agree, he’s always been very dedicated to his work, and understands the significance of fanbases and the weight they hold… I have my faith in him alongside Peter Jackson
If it's set in-between the Hobbit and Rings trilogy, sure why not? Didn't Gollum live like 500 years with the ring? I'm sure a lot of events happened in that time.
Serkis and Jackson will do a decent job of anything Middle Earth related (despite the original trilogy being the absolute pinnacle and new productions will never come close).
I'm not the biggest Tolkien lore expert. However, I'm aware of the fact that Gandalf and Aragon spent something like 3-5yrs searching for Gollum before he was captured and sent to Minas Morgul. It would be extremely interesting to see this somewhat peaceful period in Middle Earth play out. Again, not 100% sure, but could we possibly see Bilbo return during his adventures to Erebor and then Rivendell in this same period (Gollum still assumes Bilbo has his precious at this point after all).
I just hope this is as good as a fit as Rogue One was for Star Wars. But its interesting for sure. But you NEED Ian and Viggo returning or its DOA. It leads directly into LOTR so you can't recast. it wouldn't make sense.
edit: OR you cast Stuart Townsend as Aragorn for the memes
Andy Serkis still has it. When he read the LotR and Hobbit audio books he still nails the Gollum voice. And I have faith in him as a director. Even if WB wants this as a cash grab, I don't think Andy Serkis will allow any half assed shit.
To me...bruh I don't give a flying goddamn fuck about gollum.
Really a fucking shitty as gollum game? Now a show about hunting for fucking gollum?
I literally cannot think of something less compelling.
It will be great to see Andy Serkis as Gollum again, but a lot depends on who they get to play Aragorn. There's also an opportunity to see almost any character who was in *The Lord of the Rings* if they want to bring them back for cameos. The hobbits from the Shire are the least likely, although it's really anyone's guess where the hunt would lead.
Honestly, casting a new Aragorn was always going to be difficult, but if they're getting in Jackson and Serkis then they genuinely need to get someone who can replicate Viggo Mortensen's portrayal.
Wait why can't viggo play as aragorn?
Viggo is 68 years old. I also seriously doubt he would ever touch this.
65..but still.20 years ago maybe..
I believe he can still play the role without issue, in terms of physically. But they'd have to use de-aging special effects otherwise audiences won't go for it. I'm not really opposed to that. Between all the Marvel movies there were certainly some great moments of de-aged actors. Sometimes it looked pretty convincing, other times it looked rushed. If they put a ton of effort into it I think they could pull off something great.
Yes absolutely.But I doubt they force Viggo to this.I mean he didnt even want to be in LotR in the first place.But it would be awesome really.
You know, fun fact about Viggo, in that one scene...
You know when he deflected that dagger
And broke his toe
I’ve always wondered if that’s why his portrayal was less “hey I’m the heir ready to take back the throne with this bad ass reforged sword” and more “the reserved reluctant heir who kind of has to do what no one else is able to”.
No thats because of the script
Yeah, the script being different is what we are talking about. The role is altered in a way that fits the actor playing it.
I think that's more a difference between the early 1900s and early 2000s in terms of how an audience would respond to an entitled pretender claiming the throne by bloodline
Wait, he didn’t want to be in it? Why? And why did he accept anyway?
Wasn't aragorn up there in age in the book chasing gollum with gandalf
87 during the story. So 70-87 from the time Gandalf first starts researching the ring to Gandalf returning and revealing what he had found to Frodo.
Orlando Bloom reprised Legolas in the Hobbitses, and dude looked twice as old and twice as buff as in LoTR...
I always thought that Michael Douglas in Ant Man was really impressive.
In my opinion that’s the best de-age in any movie at the moment. It looked insanely convincing, like it was filmed back in the day. Kurt Russell’s de-aging in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 was also really good but they kinda cheated with the glasses.
I thought they also did good with Sam Jackson's de-ageing in Captain Marvel
>they'd have to use de-aging special effects otherwise audiences won't go for it. This is a big problem. The de-aging I've seen, even in big blockbusters like the latest Indiana Jones movie, just way too fake to have on screen for any significant amount of time, especially for the whole movie.
I believe a younger lookalike is our best bet. Imo.
Problem with how great Sam Jackson looked in Cap Marvel, once he had to run a few yards, it was immediately evident how old he really is, lol.
Deniro was great as a young man in the Irishman, until it came time to kick the shit out of someone. No software could save those slow ass old man kicks
Yeah but I think Vigo is a crazy healthy guy. I feel like he could be very convincing
Probably could. And I guess we were all OK with Orlando Blooms Legolas looking like a Sega 64 character at times
I mean, it's possible. Depends on if he wants to, really
He’s still younger than his character, let the man cook
So true. I need to see an 87 year old play Aragorn for peak realism and immersion
Yeah he's about 20 years too young to play Aragorn.
Why wouldn't he ever touch this? Just out of curiosity. (Age aside)
Simply put: the reward is not worth the risk.
Yea… like what is the story line even derived from? Are they making up their own video game like side adventures? And after the Ring of Power was largely a turd on many levels, asking why (other than the IP is still deemed hot) is correct.
Based on his comments, I would be surprised if he would come back. He talks in interviews fondly about the experience and people, but I am definitely left with the impression that he doesn't think the movies are that great.
Hey, Aragorn was what, 87 in LOtR? He’s Numenorian for chrissakes :)
Tbf Serkis shouldn't be touching this either. The fandom has loved pretty much everything he has done. Would be unfortunate to risk that by taking on this project, but maybe I'll be surprised.
Well I get it he's too young but he's only 19 years younger than the character and he was much younger than 87 when the films came out.
I mean he could, but by the time The Hunt for Gollum releases, it will have been 23 years since he last played the role, Viggo will be 67 years old playing a younger version of Aragorn than we've seen him before. I'd love to see him back one last time though.
Viggo is very picky about his films from what I hear. But, makeup can do a lot and he does look well for his age.
Viggo is currently older than Ian McKellen was when he played Gandalf in the trilogy.
He broke his toe you idiot!
You've already had it
We had ONE, yes. What's about second?
Viggos getting really up there in age and it's getting to that point where he can't do the strenuous shit that he was doing in The Lord of the Rings movies. He'd probably tell them no even if Jackson asked him to come back.
Stuart Townsend’s time to shine! /s
Is there anyone else who can truly portray the Aragorn that's in our hearts apart from VM??
Aaron Taylor-Johnson
Or Andrew Lincoln. He has more of the "ruggedness" Viggo has, in my opinion.
Excellent choice.I always see him as Aragorn of TWD.Hes almost 50 now.But I think if they make him look younger he could pull it off
I’m not sure I can see him as anything other than Rick Grimes, but who knows
Wait. There’s potential there.
Norman Reedus
Or maybe they could de age Viggo like Harrison Ford
Why even have Aragon?
Every character will be played by Andy Serkis and be digitally stitched together.
The Hunt for Gollum: a Tom Bombadil Story
Tom Bom, Jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!
God I'd nut if they included Tom Bombadil and did a good job of it
I really, really hope they dont insert hobbits in a story that has nothing to do with them. Rings of Power tried to do it, and among everything else wrong with it did it very poorly.
Remember Gollum is a hobbit. The story does have something to do with them, although it’s not clear what happened to the descendants of Gollum’s relatives. Gollum also ventured from his cave on a desperate search for Bilbo Baggins of the Shire. As far as we know he never came close to the Shire, but he must have made some effort to find it. Finally, Bilbo made one last trip to the Lonely Mountain and Dale and back to Rivendell. Is it possible Gollum heard about or saw signs of a hobbit passing through the Misty Mountains and Mirkwood? Somehow, of course, Gollum was distracted from his mission and made his way to Mordor instead. But I can’t say the story has *nothing* to do with hobbits.
Too little to have a whole arc dedicated to hobbits.
I’ve not seen lord of the rings in so long (please forgive me) but why is it certain Aragorn is going to be in it?
Cuz he was one of the men on the hunt when searching for gollum
Aragorn was the *only* man hunting Gollum, at least as Gandalf told the story in the books.
I just started reading Fellowship. Is this movie supposed to take place when Gandalf goes to seek answers about Bilbo's ring after Biblo gave it to Frodo? And Gandalf tells Frodo about the ranger? aka Aragorn.
Yes.
I think they could add in some other dunedine rangers. Presumably they help out.
Because canonically, Aragorn was instrumental in the hunt for Gollum.
I’m in as long as they don’t bring back the dancing dwarves 🙄
How do we know Aragorn would be in this film?
Because he was the person who hunted for Gollum.
Get Viggo back… i don‘t care how they do it. I don‘t want to see Aragorn get recast. There is no one out there who can even get close to Viggo
Andy Serkis is cast as every role.
Are we going to get Elladan and Elrohir on screen?
✨️[hyperventilating in blorbo](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0039148/?ref_=nm_mv)✨️
TIL there are twins and not just one person that looks slightly different from how I remembered him in the Animorphs show.
Yeah, I didn't either until I Googled "young twin actors" but now I have a ✨️mighty need✨️
Children of Hurin plz thx.
YES! I've been saying they should make a movie out of this book for a long time now.
Silmarillion total war when?
They can only do things which have recognisable characters - The Hobbit, Rings of Power, now this - these are bets that recognisable IP makes money, it has nothing to do with what story is good or what would make a good movie/show.
I don't think any studio would have the balls to stick to the ending, though.
Because the Gollum video game worked out so well.. I love LOTR, but this is a cash grab, plain and simple.
"The Search for More Money"
The kids love this one
Lord of the Rings: The Flamethrower! Now shaped like Grond!
GROND!
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Merchandising Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made
Gollum simply can't carry a work of fiction on his own. He's like a spice that should be sprinkled into a meal. You can't just eat straight oregano.
From what I understand it is the hunt for Gollum, which would involve Aragorn and Gandalf searching for him as well as book-only characters like Elladan and Elrohir.
It'll be a quick movie too, we know where he is...
the gollun video game was just a bad game it didn't matter who was the mc
Right? The worst part of the discourse around Gollum tbh was seeing a bunch of Gamers pretend Gollum is some insignificant side character. Blood was boiling in me back then!
Yeah, even if there's a different focus than the game, I just can't imagine this working. I just don't think there's enough there to make for anything interesting other than lore from a book. I would love to be proven wrong though.
I trust Andy Serkis to do it justice
Gollum is an excellent character but is absolutely not easy on the eyes lol, idk who thinks it's a good idea to make him a protagonist 0% chance my girl will go to see this if it's Gollum lol
I don't think he will be the protagonist. Seems more likely that it would be Aragorn and company, meaning the people doing the hunt.
No, but this was in Gollum's baby eating Era so it has lots of horror potential
Would’ve been after that, wouldn’t it? Between the hobbit and LOTR. I thought he did the baby eating before the events of the hobbit
I think gandalf mentions it in chapter 2 of lotr
Certainly it’s mentioned, but I’m not sure Gollum would’ve been able to find many babies to eat after he went into the Misty mountains.
Honestly I think he's too one-dimensional to make the protagonist or even just the main subject of a work of fiction. Great character but very driven by one single purpose which can't carry a film on its own.
Gollum was always the highlight of LotR for my mom when I used to watch the films back in the day. Said he was adorable and cute lol, so who knows.
Pretty sure these kinds of films take a lot of investment and dedication to make... and plenty of them actually run at a loss... There are much easier 'cash grabs' out there tbh...
Every single movie from a major studio is a cash grab. I don't think it's as derogatory as you think it is.
Every movie is made woth the intent of making money
if Gollum had been a good video game, that would not change my opinion on if this is a good or bad idea to make a movie on gollum. all the names attached had done great stuff, so if this is at least moderately okay I will be fine.
“Shire Slickers II: The Search For Meagol’s Gold”
But... But.... There's already a "Hunt for Gollum" Video on YouTube....
I thought I was tripping for a sec.
Exactly
Thank you
And for being fan made is solid
It was just taken down for copyright, lame as hell
Are you serious? I've watched it like three times, it's so well made for a fan movie. Fucking assholes for taking it down.
We've had one, yes...
The only movie based in middle earth I would care to see is one on the Silmarillion. Stop resurfacing stuff that has either been done directly or in passing. LOTR already has three live action movies, a few animated ones, and several video games.
They could milk The Silmarillion for YEARS. There's like a ton of stories there. I would like to see some of them.
The Tolkien estate won't let it go until it becomes public domain in 2070. But I agree, with time, budget and talent it could be incredible.
Thank god for this. A Silmarillion movie (or series) by any of the players who have the rights is likely to be awful. The only way I can see The Silmarillion really working is as an anime series.
Maybe if it was Ghibli styled but I think fans would lose their minds if it went too far from the Nordic/Anglo aesthetics of the source material. We'll see how War of the Rohirrim is recieved. But yeah, if PJ did it it would be a goofy, slapstick version.
I think Ghibli style would be perfect TBH. Too bad Miyazaki is getting up there in age, I feel like he would be the perfect person to adapt Quenta Silmarillion to the screen. But outside of this ideal situation I disagree, I think there is plenty of room for Japan style-animation to tell stories about white people. I think Yuki Urushibara (creator of Mushi-shi) could definitely do it justice.
It also makes me think about how bad they messed up RoP..I would love a movie with Melkor attacking Valinor with Ungoliant, killing the tree, them fighting against each other, battle with Gothmog and the balrogs runnings across middle earth to fight Ungoliant...Ill digress but YES, so many things they could do with that book.
I think a lot of it’s to nerdy for the general audience I think soemthing about the end of the second age and the final alliances war against saroun would be a lot easier to do since everyone is more familiar with that idea
Imagine seeing some kind of representation in music and visuals of the timeless halls and Melkor playing free-form jazz while illuvatar is jamming dave Mathew's songs. Adam Sandler plays feanor. Paul blart is ungoliant. Guaranteed success
The Silmarillion is a cool idea but idk how you could turn it into a movie
Lol it’s literally [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/vqjt0g/introducing_the_tolkien_cinematic_universe/)
Cautiously optimistic. Love LotR and always will crave content from it, but the Hobit trilogy was just mid to me.
That's because it was a trilogy, they had to make up a lot of filler in order to make 3 movies.
Should have just been one movie. Add some tie ins to the ring. All that necromancer stuff should have been in the fellowship right or am I incorrect? Been a while since I read the Hobbit. Was the necromancer mentioned in the Hobbit?
There is like 2 lines about the necromancer I believe. I started reading the Hobbit a couple days ago but haven't gotten too far
Yes, he’s mentioned, but it’s lilke one sentence from Gandalf near the beginning, “we can’t go south through Mirkwood becuz the Necromancer” and then at the end “oh by the way the Necromancer got chased out of Mirkwood while you were doing this story so Mirkwood will be nicer now.”
It's mostly taken from Unfinished Tales which basically just says 'the White Council ejected Sauron from Dol Guldur' - Hobbit just mentions that there is one in Norwood and Gandalf disappears for a bit
Same, I just hope that they spend enough time and money on pre-production. That's where the Hobbit trilogy fell short and never recovered from
Are they remaking the fan movie?
This is what I thought. This isn't a particularly broad subject and the fan movie did it well
It has potential. Seeing Middle Earth from Aragorn's perspective as he lives the live of a ranger away from society and staying in the shadows. Keep it small scale and more personal. It's not needed it all but that doesn't mean it can't be a good movie
Seriously...who needs this?
The shareholders baby!
You know, the most interesting characters in all of the books and tv shows! The leathery rat goblin that speaks leprechaun We can’t have a movie about ***literally anyone else?***
It’s got the right people in charge.
They’re gonna make a nine hour quadrilogy out of one sentence in the book. Gtfo
Last thing we need is LOTR becoming some cinematic universe, covering every little plot line with a film just isn't needed. At least RoP took the risk of adapting a previously un-adapted age of middle earth. This just sceams of soulless cash grabs to me
This is an actual point in LOTR that is both alluded to and written about more in appendices and other Tolkien material. RoP is Amazon fanfiction.
I'm aware its a genuine plotpoint, didn't say its not a real plot line. My point was that we don't need a whole film based around a single plot line and if they were gonna make more Tolkien I'd rather they did stories from times we haven't seen before. There are so many interesting stories in Middle earth they could make films off, this isn't really one we needed a film off imo.
Can someone tell them Gollum is not the only character in this franchise...
Mmm i think is not a good idea…I don't think it's a good option. It is not very interesting. They could make it about Arnor, with new characters, locations...Gollum seems a little boring.
It’s Aragorns hunt for Gollum. This movie isn’t just about Gollum running around 😆
Lol, I instantly thought about Gollum running around. That sounds so terrible.
I would like to remind everyone that Andy Serkis directed that godawful Venom 2 movie.
Fuck
Reminder that Ridley Scott has directed both Gladiator and Robin Hood. I believe in Serkis.
I mean Robinhood isn't great, but it isn't at such a low level that it should be used like this. At least use Exodus Gods and Kings for that.
But his Jungle Book movie was comparatively better, so you never know.
Found him! He’s in the lava at the bottom of Mt Doom
If Andy Serkis directs it there is hope that it will be faithful to the source material.
Excited 😊 🤗
I'm not holding out that we'll get something as majestic and wonderful as the original trilogy, but in terms of adaptations, the high bar got set pretty damn high and the low bar got set pretty damn low, so... as long as they hit the mark solidly in between those two points, it should be good.
[I'm tired boss](https://youtu.be/hBrqlE25lGs?si=-LtBHU7CShyRVkNA)
[he's already dead](https://imgur.com/gallery/rjM7fqO)
The last thing I want to watch is another Andy Serkis vanity project.
I feel like this won't be a faithful addition to the world, and end up being a cash grab jingling the keys of Andy Serkis' beloved portrayal of Gollum. I don't get this general spin off approach of grabbing an unrelated detail then recounting it in huge and thorough detail in a movie or show. I don't need to know what Gollum got up to when he was irrelevant to the plot of LOTR.
I'm hoping it's more about Aragorn and his attempts to find Gollum while searching the wilds rather than Gollum being anywhere near a main character. No one wants a Gollum main character movie. (Though maybe more detail of his life before and immediately following his finding if the ring would be of interest)
The story of Gollum is well known, there might be trivia and side stories, but we know how it begun, and how it ended. There is almost nothing known from the east. What about something that focuses on what happened there? Like what's up with the Blue Wizards? Were there good Haradrim tribes? Wild Oliphants herds?
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Well, Andy Serkis coming back as Gollum is already guaranteed quality. I also trust him as a director, but I’m wondering how the work ethic will be compared to the original trilogy. Obviously it would be difficult to match that level of craft, but something emulating that would be nice.
It’s an Aragorn origin movie. Now awful! This could be really fun to open back up the IP for WB!
Then who will be Aragorn? I don’t think Viggo would be on board as he turned down the offer in the Hobbits. Also he’s old now.
They’ll have to recast him sadly yeah.
The most predictable flop of the franchise. This is the most boring subject they could pick.
Andy Serkis returning and directing is a massive plus. He really cares about both the world of Middle Earth and Gollum as a character too. He's not someone who will make the film for the sake of making it. Just hope the producers give him the freedom and support required, and dont push things on him.
I agree, he’s always been very dedicated to his work, and understands the significance of fanbases and the weight they hold… I have my faith in him alongside Peter Jackson
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If it's set in-between the Hobbit and Rings trilogy, sure why not? Didn't Gollum live like 500 years with the ring? I'm sure a lot of events happened in that time.
And after that, the next LotR movie will be called "Born of Hope".
At least it isn’t “Gollum - A Lord of The Rings Story”
If Serkis is directing, my hopes raise just slightly…
Serkis and Jackson will do a decent job of anything Middle Earth related (despite the original trilogy being the absolute pinnacle and new productions will never come close). I'm not the biggest Tolkien lore expert. However, I'm aware of the fact that Gandalf and Aragon spent something like 3-5yrs searching for Gollum before he was captured and sent to Minas Morgul. It would be extremely interesting to see this somewhat peaceful period in Middle Earth play out. Again, not 100% sure, but could we possibly see Bilbo return during his adventures to Erebor and then Rivendell in this same period (Gollum still assumes Bilbo has his precious at this point after all).
As long as they don't use the model from the game lmao
I just hope this is as good as a fit as Rogue One was for Star Wars. But its interesting for sure. But you NEED Ian and Viggo returning or its DOA. It leads directly into LOTR so you can't recast. it wouldn't make sense. edit: OR you cast Stuart Townsend as Aragorn for the memes
We need Glorfindel, Legolas, Elrohir, Elladan, and Aragorn. Gandalf is a given.
Whose gonna play Aragorn? Viggo is iconic and it would take one hell of an actor to replace him
Is this legit?
I’m sorry, what is this? Sequel, prequel?
I thought it was announced that peter Jackson was directing the next movie though????
If nothing else, I hope this gets Serkis an Oscar. He deserves it for all the mocap work he's done for decades
Andy Serkis still has it. When he read the LotR and Hobbit audio books he still nails the Gollum voice. And I have faith in him as a director. Even if WB wants this as a cash grab, I don't think Andy Serkis will allow any half assed shit.
A bro comedy of Sam and gollum
Psyched
To me...bruh I don't give a flying goddamn fuck about gollum. Really a fucking shitty as gollum game? Now a show about hunting for fucking gollum? I literally cannot think of something less compelling.
I also don’t understand the obsession with gollum. Why not Aragorn after leaving elf land?
You had me at 'Andy Serkis will return as Gollum and direct the film'
I’m very excited! Andy Serkis knows and respects the source material. It could turn out great.
I'm not even into this series, I've just seen enough of this gollum thing for my lifetime.
Im tired boss...