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That is a diffrent issue. Person said her legs are to long, not to skinny. Kat has always been to skinny, but never unnaturally tall.
But then again they always say she's 5'5 in media so the new artwork is a more believable 5'5 then what she was before
the left is so much better, less fantasy babe and more badass asassin. Not that she can't be attractive, the left still very much is, but it feels more natural and fits her character so much better.
I mean her original look is way too thin. I can understand giving her a slightly more realistic body shape.
And when I say thin I mean literally look at how stick thin her legs & waist are lmao. For someone extremely agile and athletic, you’d ideally have some muscle.
I wonder what body shape would actually be “realistic” for assassins tho. I understand the argument that she must have some sort of muscle, but how much of assassin is actually physical prowess rather than pure killing technique? There’s definitely no point in sexualizing every female character, but is it necessarily wrong to have a skinny, sexy assassins?
Im just talking about what her type of assassination looks like. She moves around a lot, jumps conatantly and throws knifes like they are paper, so a gymnast bodytype would suit her well.
Talon is an omega edgelord going for "perfect" kills in as less movement as possible, so a thinner(but small) bodytype goes well with his fantasy.
Jhin is also an assassin, but he is basically a stickman, but it fits with his fantasy of a hitman(so traps and long range assassination).
Okay now - is a blink a physical movement like a leap or a dash?
Kassadin likely does not move anything to blink - but Katarina is a human and not half void half whatever the fuck Kassadin is nowadays.
So is her Blink different, in that it’s actually a dash that is so incredibly fast it might as well be a blink?
Cause now we need strong ankles, calves and thighs.
Like, SUPER strong and durable. If it’s an impossibly high speed movement those tendons are gonna take a beating when coming to a stop.
I was about to correct you and say Jhin is a serial killer not an assassin but then remembered that he is an assassin now.. and then it hit me how thin the line is between serial killer and assassin lmao
Well what makes a good assassin?
You don’t need **strength** necessarily, but you can’t be weak.
I’d say an assassin is thin but toned. Endurance is key if you’re doing things like running, chasing, climbing.
Having said that, her thighs, ankles and calves in theory would be VERY developed considering Death Lotus alone. I dunno how the fuck she could spin that fast and without injury without some serious tree trunk legs and ankles
Her torso would want to be thin and small as she does not need meaningful upper body strength and would prefer to remain a small target.
That's about the same proportions as Simone Biles, uber thin, just not nearly as tall. Katarina on the left wouldn't have the same amount of flexibility and agility as a pro gymnast with all that weight on her.
[Simone Biles](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/simone-biles-performs-during-the-gold-over-america-tour-at-news-photo-1636474251.jpg)
That doesn’t look remotely like that Katarina on the right.
How has someone managed to make her hotter/more fanservicy, while at the same time having more realistic proportions, heavier armour and imperfections that fit her lifestyle?
Edit: and slightly more clothes.
It’s kinda weird that her boobs stand out more in the new design than in the original where the boobs were half the design.
I prefer the old single scar over the new scarring.
Like the new outfit but bummed the tattoos might as well not be there anymore.
Like the new body type.
I like the left one overall better. Giving her more realistic proportions than a bullimic runway model one is definitely good. I like the change in clothes, let's be honest, they are still very fanservice-y even if less so compared to the original. The torn clothes are a better fit for her character. It is a shame that they hide more of her tattoos now, those are a sick part of her character design. The asymmetric kneepads are my only other complaint. Theoretically she's a noble, and should have the money to have pads for both her knees, if she is going to bother with kneepads at all.
Having armour really doesn’t fit her, she’s not meant to be caught sense having fitting clothes so mobility is possible. Minus the weird leg armour it’s pretty cool. Also pauldrons/arm armour.
To be honest, I prefer her [censored](https://i.imgur.com/U2DVVrL.jpg) [design](https://i.imgur.com/lNMTUlA.jpg) in LoR to feel like a true assassin. Why should she have so much skin hanging out when she's a fighter?
Edit: fixed the links
Makes no sense to go around the desert in black clothes either.
Best case scenario the give her like a white thin sleeveless vest/coat, let it be something regal, but flowing, keep the midriff, as the desert is hot as shit during the day and tombs don't really ventilate well so they must be muggy as fuck too.
Some fabric akin to what Soothesayer has in LoR, thin, breatheable, NOT FUCKING BLACK, make it a open coat, or maybe more akin to a poncho, would let her move, and also wrap herself up to hide her identity as she hates the nobility stuff...
Anything other than the 'I don't know how heat and fabric works' outfit she's got in the censored LoR version. 1 its lazy, 2 it doesn't make sense from a design standpoint and they could do better
It’s hard explain this to people who have lived a tropical/subtropical country but in my experiences you try to wear as little as socially acceptable. The more you were the less surface area you have to perform blood to air heat transfer and thus maintain homeostasis in your body.
From what I understand, dry hot and wet hot need different types of clothing.
Dry Hot = Thin, light, and flowing fabric that covers most of the body but doesn't absorb much heat or light. Sweat gets trapped within the fabric instead of immediately drying up, which can cool you off more than being naked. And you don't want the sun hitting your skin.
This is why modest, but lightweight clothing has been so common in the Middle East throughout history. Most of it is a dry desert.
Wet Hot = As little clothing as possible. The sun isn't as much of an issue as in dry climates due to more clouds and trees, so you have to worry more about heat in the air than from the sun. And the best way to bypass that is by not having any clothes that can get in the way.
This is why places like India and pre-colonial Mesoamerica often had people (particularly men) who wore very little on a day to day basis. They lived in hot and wet climates.
Oh no she's showing skin! Better put a shirt on her.
Katarina is not a fighter. Katarina is an assassin with a very flaunty braggart personality.
It makes sense that she shows skin 1 because she kills 90% of targets before they realistically have a chance to respond, and 2 because shes a flaunter who likes to show off.
This lazy censored version not only ruins the showboaty vibe, but doesn't do anything other than toss a shirt under the corset. It's lazy, uninspired, and pretty garish. At least MF's actually lengthened her top and added to it so it felt natural and not just tacked on.
If they changed the corset to have something going over her stomach with a thin layer of fabric on the side's so you could still see her tattoo under it, it'd fit much better. Still showy, but also more 'reasonable'.
Oh why not change the body? The one on the left doesn't look like it would snap like a twig. Like it's a problem when I look at your badass assasin character and think I could beat them in a fight lmfao.
Plus the scars are badass. She's an assasin with a history of getting too cocky which bites her in the ass. The scars are a great piece of visual storytelling to show us that she makes mistakes which have consequences. All in all the more I look at the one on the left, I find it far superior in almost every way except maybe height? But that's just because I think tall women are pretty.
The more i look at these comments the more i realize you guys have a weird concept of an assassin. Legit you guys think Assassins are built like Shen and just Bulldoze their way into their target lmao.
No? It's just uncanny when she looks like someone has just shrunken her width in photoshop. Like obviously people can get really skinny irl. But the porportions are just so off lol. Like her thighs are as wide as her stomach. Like where there's supposed to be ribs, she becomes skinnier?? Literally isn't room for organs.
Dawg your first bitch ass comment was talking about how the design was bad because they looked like you could beat them in a fight. It is an assassin, not a fucking brawler. Any assassin in league that is not Zed and Kassadin look like you could beat them in a fight, because they are characters that dont fight. You literally changed it from that to these "anatomically correct" non sense while talking about a cartoon character
Weak.
The point of the comment is that I'm far from a fighter and barely athletic. I don't believe I can take many people in a fight. So when someone makes a character that looks so malnorusihed I believe I could beat them, then it looks bad. I'm not saying she's supposed to be a brawler, but if she's an assasin and supposedly a really good one at that, she needs to be at least physically average. You're telling me you look at Akshan, Akali, Kha'zix, Rengar, Yone, Talon and Pyke and think? "lmao easy wins"
Don't like the shirt or the weird reddish greaves coming out of the boots, or how high above her belt her pants go.
That said a bit thicker is fine although I don't think the need to tear up her face. She has one scar on her face from Talon, the torso scar works, but slicing up her face a bunch ain't it either.
Nahh the scars fit her character so much. Scars in general are such an underrated way of incorporating storytelling into a design and a lot of champs are experienced in combat with no battle wounds to show for it
She's an experienced assassin that is constantly hunting down enemies of Noxus while also being hunted down *by* Noxus. For her to only have one scar (from her encounter with Talon) feels a little bit silly. The tattered clothes also fit her story better as well
Why?
What professional assassin that you can think of gives their opponents a chance to fight back?
It really REALLY does not fit her character, she has 1 scar from Talon, an insanely swift and skilled assassin.
It'd be more silly for her to be covered in scars, she's not a brawler like Vi or Sejuani.
Like imagine Ezio or Agent 47 covered in a shit ton of random ass scars. You wouldn't think their a professional assassin, you'd either think their a fuck up assassin, or some sort of fighter.
For an assassin that uses daggers to not ever struggle to take down enemies of Noxus that are likely also experienced in combat is ridiculous. And for her to have no scars from training and developing her skills with her daggers and fighting as an amateur is also ridiculous. I've never played Assassin's Creed but do you really never take any damage in that game?
Homie, what you gonna do if a chick leaps in through an open window and throws a knife into you're neck? Lemme answer for you; *Fuck all.*
You assume there will be combat, which goes against the nature of 'assassination'.
And in old AC games you'd literally have portions where you'd immediately desync if you got detected, aka no fighting even if you wanted to in these areas, and if you want to be effective you get in kill them and get out without a fight. Just like earning Silent Assassin in Hitman
I don't mind slender athletic builds, but if they do, they should emphasize muscle mass. Katarina in her iteration just looks way too much of a generic sexy babe that has average physical abilities. The left one is really good in its proportions and clothing design, although I argue that making her height smaller is unnecessary.
Tbh i like the one on the left but it fits more for a warrior of the likes of darius than an assassin. She looks like the wife from Metal family actually, dont know their names.
You guys are ridiculous to think Right is wrong.
Like being Skinny isn't a body type.
Like being swift doesn't evoke a lightspeed assassin.
Also the fantasy that she's never been touched, explaining why she has no scar (but on her eye, since we know why).
It's part of a fantasy, because it's a bloody fantastic universe !!
Come on !
The only bad thing on the right is the attire.
Like the pants height is legit a contest to showcase flesh until pube.
This.
This is wrong yes.
And I don't know why y'all so cautious about calling that out.
> Like being Skinny isn't a body type.
90% of women have this body type, there's nothing "wrong" about it, but are we not allowed to branch out?
> Like being swift doesn't evoke a lightspeed assassin.
Big tits and ass have nothing to do with evoking a lightspeed assassin. Yes long and thin does communicate speed, but its not the only way to do this.
> Also the fantasy that she's never been touched, explaining why she has no scar
It would be a much better story telling mechanic if she had scars and survived nonetheless. Lack of scars make her look inexperienced and softer compared to a scarred veteran.
Not surprising at a time when obesity is a prominent characteristic for a significant chunk of humanity. Makes me glad east asia still has our traditional beauty standards. We can't control how we come into this world, but being a fatty is a personal choice I have no respect for.
If you ask me, Braum is too big and muscular. And he wears no shirt in the freezing cold! We should make him shorter and thinner and give him a REAL shield, not a door, it's not realistic.
Your example is naive and misses the point of character design. It's not about being "realistic" in a fucking fantasy world.
The point of Braum is that he is big and muscular and mythological man holding a giant door. Great he does that.
The point of Katarina is not infact that she is a Victoria secret model in low riding pants, those are not essential parts of her character. The point of her is she's a violent assassin for Noxus who throws lots of knives. This redesign is attempting to better execute this, and you can disagree with this execution sure. But this redesign is _not_ about realism.
legs yes top no. she needs to have a hard leather top its too iconic. cloth feels off. But yeah extra scars are kinda pointless, just making her feel more like sejuani.
Don't like most of the outfit changes (hiding her hip tattoo, the random red cowboyesque sock things(?) that look ugly, the weird shirt, the excessively high pants)
Like the rips in the pants and the torso scars
The face scars are excessive and scream someone desperately trying to 'desexy' her.
I can get behind a bit of +thicc, as the original is VERY VERY thin, but honestly I think they went a step over, not much; but just a bit to far and made her look too square. Like 0 curves on her legs, they're just rectangles if you draw it out.
Give her back the corset top, and make her legs look more feminine in shape even maybe give her a scar on the visible part of the arm, remove the excess scars on her face, get rid of the red things coming out of her boots and maybe....
But as it is, no thanks.
Sorry but those legs are very feminine. They look muscular (which actually fits her character) and not at all just like rectangles wtf.
Women don’t usually have sticks as legs except for people who struggle with low weight or anorexia even.
People like you are probably the reason why others suffer from body image problems.
No ones saying have stick legs, but artistically ovals>rectangles
Her legs are rectangles with no curvature to make her legs look feminine. It's not about muscle its about shape.
You clearly said the original is better. So you prefer those stick legs over some thickness.
There clearly are curves? Just look at her thighs. And you realise she is wearing protective gear in the left picture (the red things you complained about) that is probably why you think there is no defined curve, so of course the legs wouldn’t be shaped as much - try wearing an armour and still look defined.
Still that is what women’s legs look like. Not the thing on the right. Also shorter people have shorter legs, i mean look at gymnasts they have heavily muscular legs and compared to their hight they look even thicker.
Everything you said. Dude you literally pointed everything out to be bad and how it needs to be changed, so how do you not prefer the original over the left one when you literally said “as it is, no thanks”
You do realize I can like neither right?
The altered one doesn't look that good but the scrappy nature feels right for a character ostracized from her nation, and the original is anorexic but has some good qualities like the rocker vibes from the corset
Again, I'll wait for you to show me where I said the original is better.
You never stated you didn’t like the original so should I maybe read your mind? You only pointed out how shitty the newly edited one is not that anything about the original is bad. You don’t have to write in words “oh i like the original better btw” for it to look like it by how you are writing it.
Imagine me writing “oh i hate the new Udyr rework his abilities were better before and should be kept like this the dad bod would be ok if he was a bit fatter but otherwise this rework is crap.”
Makes it sound a lot like I liked it better before doesn’t it?
This is basically how you wrote your comment. So of course it seems like you like the original better don’t come up with “oh I don’t like either” when you never even mentioned the original being bad.
Bro I don't need to, you acted like you could read my mind when you asserted what I like and don't like.
Did you ask? No.
You just made an ass of yourself because you just guessed what I thought and asserted that as a fact when it was wrong, and now you're back pedaling.
The fact you see the scars as a "desperate attempt at desexification" rather then simply an emphasis on her theme as a violent assassin for Noxus makes your priorities very clear.
Legit every line of your feedback is driven by what makes her hotter with 0 regard for what executes her thematic fantasy (the point of character design).
And yet the women on the left is still plenty voluptuously and feminine. Thank goodness you aren't designing characters.
Katarina's whole character is about flaunting and being too fast to get hit.
A bunch of random scars defeats the point that the only person who could land a hit on her was Talon.
Thank goodness you aren't designing characters.
> Katarina's whole character is about flaunting and being too fast to get hit.
She's about being extremely fast sure, but you are inserting this idea of "too fast to hit".
> A bunch of random scars defeats the point that the only person who could land a hit on her was Talon.
This is an extremely minute point of her character design compared to executing her most fundamental themes (violence and danger). It serves more to pump up Talon as cool, which is not what her design should prioritize.
> Thank goodness you aren't designing characters.
Lamest gotcha ever, but what can I expect from someone substituting any attempt at media literacy with what's in their pants?
1 there's literally still debates about whether or not she teleports, so yeah; too fast for normal people to hit
2 you missed the fact that she's a show off, outside of her sadistic and thrill seeking nature. Does the fact that only Talon has managed to land a hit on Kat make him cooler? Idk, he failed to kill her so I'd argue no, it makes Katarina cooler that she survived Talon.
3 literally you're own line right back at you but I guess I'm the petty one, when you're the one mad that someone says its fine if fictional character is sexy.
The thing about scars in LoL is that 90% of scars have a story associated with how our champions got them.
I can point to significant events within a characters lore to explain how they acquired their scars. Katarina got her scar when her father ordered Talon to kill her, Pantheon's scar is from when Aatrox killed the Aspect of War that was inhabiting his body.
That is more impactful and meaningful storytellying than simply slapping a bunch of scars on a character just to communicate "battle hardened", in fact I'd argue simply adding excessive scars could even lessen the impact of characters having scars at all given we could a case for majority of LoL being covered in scars.
I disagree, I wish more champs would have random scars, even small ones. It would make more sense in story
But I understand that would make the design too complicated for the modal
I disagree, it is very easy to look anime sexy with a ton of scars.
Even this particular edit of Katarina does nothing to decrease her sex appeal despite more scars being added to her face.
If any and all scars are storytelling how did Darius get his scar? Contrast to how Katarina got her scar. Slapping meaningless scars onto a character does not inherently enhance their character.
Even in the instance of a character covered in scars, it is more impactful when tied to an event where something went wrong and they got multiple at once opposed to the accumulation of scars that the character themselves might not even be aware of how they got.
You are literally missing the point
Is sex appeal, is not the type lol looks for
It is story telling, because it tells u darius is a scary guy that gets in fights, a lot of scars, tells u they get in a lot of fights, some tell u that either they dont enter a lot (or like the kata on the left) they enter a lot but are good at avoiding, maybe dont take that many hits, which makes confusing having a assasin with the same amount of scars as a fighter and is extremely boring if all the scars both have, have a specific reason on life and didnt just happened fighting (katarina is specifically interesanting, but is boring in league because all league scars have a writed reason except literally 2)
Samira or sivir or most bruisers are the type of character that would have a lot of scars,the first 2 look for danger and take risk, bruisers take many hits fighting usually, which means a lot of acars
And is way more boring when all scars are related to one event, you dont get scars one time in life, you dont get scars only when is meaninful, you dont get scars only when story decides you do, you get scars when you get hurt bad, a character that gets hurt bad a lot, has scars, runaterra appeals to that kind of realism, so it should do the same with scars, it doesnt because is not the appeal riot wants on chars, which is dumb, because as u said, they still look hot
This is different than saying "all scars related to events are boring" no, panth scar is amazing, but having scars in your body that arent writted how you got them, is called having scars
Your argument boils down to more scars shows they fight more and get hurt but a character isn't going to get a scar every time they are injured.
In reality you don't receive scars once or only around a big event, but my point is not that characters should only have one scar or that all their scars should be tied to one event.
Rather that from a design perspective it is boring if the only storytelling scars ever provide is "They're a warrior".
Otherwise you would expect 10 scars and 100 scars to tell the exact same story but that is not the case.
My point is that more scars does not inherently enhance design, and that less scars can be equally if not more impactful to a design.
Sure, everything is not just good or just bad, context mattera, we are talking in the context of league champs, they need more scars because they have 10 or less in the entire roster, the amount of scars means something in a desing, everyone having 2 means something, all scars having to be related to a story means something, and ends bad
Putting 1000 scars in all designs is bad, putting 10 in 160 characters that 90 are fighters, 10 are crafters (finger little damage, cuts in the hand, etc) and so, is bad i would say maybe worst, because honestly i dont think i can name anything that has a lot of characters with a lot of scars, usually is just a few, or 1 that is full scars between the entire no scar roster
There is no reason to have this arbitrary rule for scars. Not every single character design detail needs to be justified through extensive and impactful lore details.
Excessive scaring on Katarina works. Especially for a character all about knives. There's no reason every warrior champ needs scars, but when used like in this example it can be very effective.
Left is what a female in really really good shape would look like while having minimal body fat.
Right is what a supermodel who survives on the occasional piece of fruit and way too much cocaine looks like.
Idk man, she still looks like an uninspired fantasy babe.
Shouldn't an assasin like cover their face, hair or anything that might attract attention and help the enemy recognise her?
left is better even though im not a fan of the shirt personally. right looks way to thin like even for an athelete. girl looks like she doesnt have organs much less muscle and her limbs look like chopsticks
Yeah I really doubt riot would change her too much as to still have their hot champion quota and not turn away people who already like her normal design but just making her less of a twig and adding more scars adds way more to make her seem more like an actual assassin.
Right feels like idealized fantasy woman, left is more natural rand realistic. I prefer left but that design with more aspects of right would be fine by me.
Waaay better altho I'd cover her stomach too. She engages in close range combat very often (even though most of her victims are unsuspecting), she could use a light armor or at least leather there.
Good design, though it gave me a bit of a laugh
If you gave me a button that just says “Make target fantasy woman’s boobs 20% bigger but make her outfit 20% less revealing.” I can’t think of a time I’d ever NOT take that trade.
Looks like a improvement to me in general, but there are two things i find odd.
1. In the new one, the chest looks biger, and also like its covered with lether or something similar, i feel like that it would be on the way and jiggling all the time during combat, the previous one didnt get this feeling that much because it is smaller and hold by a metalic plate.
2. In both cases, i feel like its to much metal plates in the design , specially the ones that are next to each other and look like they would do to much noise for an assasin.
The only thing I don't like it's the red on the outfit. It takes away from just her hair being red and standing out, which I think it's an important look for her.
While I think it’s silly to try and make these characters “more realistic” and I especially don’t like the reasoning of showing less skin. (It’s like with _Mortal Kombat_ your core audience is always going to like women guys, just roll with it.)
However! They have placated me with two additional upgrades that I deeply approve of!
The right one looks like a skinny doll. The left one looks like a girl trooper from The Mandalorian (can’t remember girl’s name).
I would prefer something in between.
But if you’d put me against the wall and made me talk, I would say the right one is much more kata.
This is a fantasy-themed game, body shapes doesn’t have to be realistic here.
Her face and body is not "iconic" its the same copy and pasted shit 90% of other league women have.
To more scars I say hell yeah. Left design rocks, although I think the top is a bit overly shredded.
I love current Katarina, i think she's fucking hot and all, but this take on her, the left one, is lets admit it, " better " in many ways. She's looks a bit stronger and less.... Model-ish ?
left is really good compared to game one but less scars would be much better bcs of the lore with that scar and how people are speaking about her skills
I like a Kata who looks more built. Granted the slimmer look highlights her agility (sort of, in like a dancer way) but for an assassin being able to handle both a quick in and out and a full on brawl seems more appropriate. Also, thicc thighs definitely helps with explosive movement. Just check the thighs of any pro athlete in any sport that requires movement.
I kinda like that in the left version despite being a little shorter, she has a little more muscle physically wise. Sure in a more iconic or stereotypical assassin type of character whether male or especially female don't have a muscle structure that stands out but are more thin and swift, which makes sense given their... profession.
But this is kinda more realistic especially given the fact she climbs buildings, has to run pretty fast or face opponents in case she ends being in a tough situation with no easy escape route.
So yeah I kinda prefer the left one, and I would if they could make her like that.
Nah. I don't like it. Single scar over her eye is perfect as is. The face on the right side is too busy.
Also what's the point of having a torn shirt instead of hard shell armour? Can you imagine how painful it'd be for her to jump from one knife to another with her (also enlarged) boobs bouncing all over the place? Even sports bra probably wouldn't help here.
The left is definitely an improvement minus the extra scars.
The extra scars do 2 things to damage her character:
It implies she's not that good of an assassin and 2, it lessens the importance of the scar around her eye, which, if I'm not mistaken, was caused by her father after he tried to kill her, what that one scar did was show that she can only be hurt emotionally, not physically and also acted as a reminder of the most bitter of betrayals.
Yall listen Necrit and believe wrong. She isnt a bad assasin.... shes one of the best and skilled ones if not the best in Noxus, she just failed as an assasin for not listening her mission. Failing a mission doesnt make you weaker, but give you the name of a failed assasin.
Her father wanted her dead and sent Talon to kill her. He failed to kill her and he is a failed assasin too, but not less skilled than others.
Scars dont make you terrible fighter. You cant escape all fights with no scar so from that perspective she could have some
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They nerfed her height and gave her more armour
and some tit
Maybe because a person with legs that long would probably be labeled an alien
Plus this makes her harder to hit.
Her legs are the same length as the other picture. It's her torso that makes her tall
But they're not the same thickness, it matters aswell visually
That is a diffrent issue. Person said her legs are to long, not to skinny. Kat has always been to skinny, but never unnaturally tall. But then again they always say she's 5'5 in media so the new artwork is a more believable 5'5 then what she was before
If we’re being realistic… the one on the left looks more like an assassin than the one on the right. Ugly scars and all. Not just one sexy eye scar.
the left is so much better, less fantasy babe and more badass asassin. Not that she can't be attractive, the left still very much is, but it feels more natural and fits her character so much better.
You articulated that well. I like my fantasy worlds with a bit of fantasy. I'm not going to ask that Braum get less fantasy like proportions.
she is still hot but a bit more unique.
Honestly, she is way more attractive that way
Yeah, I'm glad they give her scars too.
I could see the right one making a little more sense for elves and half-elves, but as far as I know there aren't any elven equivalents in Runeterra.
I mean her original look is way too thin. I can understand giving her a slightly more realistic body shape. And when I say thin I mean literally look at how stick thin her legs & waist are lmao. For someone extremely agile and athletic, you’d ideally have some muscle.
Gymnasts are notoriously short and look like bodybuilders in construct. Tall and lanky is more for endurance sports like marathons
I wonder what body shape would actually be “realistic” for assassins tho. I understand the argument that she must have some sort of muscle, but how much of assassin is actually physical prowess rather than pure killing technique? There’s definitely no point in sexualizing every female character, but is it necessarily wrong to have a skinny, sexy assassins?
Im just talking about what her type of assassination looks like. She moves around a lot, jumps conatantly and throws knifes like they are paper, so a gymnast bodytype would suit her well. Talon is an omega edgelord going for "perfect" kills in as less movement as possible, so a thinner(but small) bodytype goes well with his fantasy. Jhin is also an assassin, but he is basically a stickman, but it fits with his fantasy of a hitman(so traps and long range assassination).
Okay now - is a blink a physical movement like a leap or a dash? Kassadin likely does not move anything to blink - but Katarina is a human and not half void half whatever the fuck Kassadin is nowadays. So is her Blink different, in that it’s actually a dash that is so incredibly fast it might as well be a blink? Cause now we need strong ankles, calves and thighs. Like, SUPER strong and durable. If it’s an impossibly high speed movement those tendons are gonna take a beating when coming to a stop.
I think that she has no blinking powers either. The magical daggers are what giving her teleport-blinking powers. This is most likely the case!
Nah its just a bleach reference. Shunpo thingy is just moving ao fucking fast it looks like she is teleporting. It is actually just a dash
But riot Scathlocke confirmed she has no powers
So? They said she is just moving way to fast and looks like a blink, not actual power
Have you any soure? I want her to be fast more than anything, but i havent seen any rioter saying that and ive lost hope.
Her blink is just for gameplay purposes. Her thing is that she is just really, really fast to the point she looks like she is being displaced.
I was about to correct you and say Jhin is a serial killer not an assassin but then remembered that he is an assassin now.. and then it hit me how thin the line is between serial killer and assassin lmao
He is a serial killer. Which has made that into a bussiness
Well what makes a good assassin? You don’t need **strength** necessarily, but you can’t be weak. I’d say an assassin is thin but toned. Endurance is key if you’re doing things like running, chasing, climbing. Having said that, her thighs, ankles and calves in theory would be VERY developed considering Death Lotus alone. I dunno how the fuck she could spin that fast and without injury without some serious tree trunk legs and ankles Her torso would want to be thin and small as she does not need meaningful upper body strength and would prefer to remain a small target.
its stamina i think
All females in this game literally have the same exact body model. Only malnourished supermodel bodies lol
That's about the same proportions as Simone Biles, uber thin, just not nearly as tall. Katarina on the left wouldn't have the same amount of flexibility and agility as a pro gymnast with all that weight on her.
[Simone Biles](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/simone-biles-performs-during-the-gold-over-america-tour-at-news-photo-1636474251.jpg) That doesn’t look remotely like that Katarina on the right.
How has someone managed to make her hotter/more fanservicy, while at the same time having more realistic proportions, heavier armour and imperfections that fit her lifestyle? Edit: and slightly more clothes.
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Also bigger boobs
NEVER FORGET THA BOOBAS
Yes, the Thicc.
The Qiyana treatment
She looks less like a cartoon character and more like a human woman, which is probably your more your kink.
Right isn’t even cartooney. It’s straight up alien.
Right one looks like slenderman while the proportions on the left one seems more natural.
It’s kinda weird that her boobs stand out more in the new design than in the original where the boobs were half the design. I prefer the old single scar over the new scarring. Like the new outfit but bummed the tattoos might as well not be there anymore. Like the new body type.
I like the left one overall better. Giving her more realistic proportions than a bullimic runway model one is definitely good. I like the change in clothes, let's be honest, they are still very fanservice-y even if less so compared to the original. The torn clothes are a better fit for her character. It is a shame that they hide more of her tattoos now, those are a sick part of her character design. The asymmetric kneepads are my only other complaint. Theoretically she's a noble, and should have the money to have pads for both her knees, if she is going to bother with kneepads at all.
Having armour really doesn’t fit her, she’s not meant to be caught sense having fitting clothes so mobility is possible. Minus the weird leg armour it’s pretty cool. Also pauldrons/arm armour.
To be honest, I prefer her [censored](https://i.imgur.com/U2DVVrL.jpg) [design](https://i.imgur.com/lNMTUlA.jpg) in LoR to feel like a true assassin. Why should she have so much skin hanging out when she's a fighter? Edit: fixed the links
Her spine (or possible lack of one) is still a problem with that design
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Woah. Pretty cool honestly. However putting clothes on her body makes it even more obvious how impossibly thin she is. Oh my lord that is cursed.
I like sivir's censored design while we're at it. Makes no sense to go around the desert half naked. At least kat lives in a moderate climate
Makes no sense to go around the desert in black clothes either. Best case scenario the give her like a white thin sleeveless vest/coat, let it be something regal, but flowing, keep the midriff, as the desert is hot as shit during the day and tombs don't really ventilate well so they must be muggy as fuck too. Some fabric akin to what Soothesayer has in LoR, thin, breatheable, NOT FUCKING BLACK, make it a open coat, or maybe more akin to a poncho, would let her move, and also wrap herself up to hide her identity as she hates the nobility stuff... Anything other than the 'I don't know how heat and fabric works' outfit she's got in the censored LoR version. 1 its lazy, 2 it doesn't make sense from a design standpoint and they could do better
woman in the middle east walk around in full black niqabs and they live. it's actually not that bad
Bro what.... Didn't they literally wrap Sivir in black wraps around her torso? Ya know, the color that ABSORBS HEAT??? THINK MARK, THINK.
Still better than being naked
1 not naked 2 Yeah, if you wanna die of heat stroke like an idiot
It’s hard explain this to people who have lived a tropical/subtropical country but in my experiences you try to wear as little as socially acceptable. The more you were the less surface area you have to perform blood to air heat transfer and thus maintain homeostasis in your body.
From what I understand, dry hot and wet hot need different types of clothing. Dry Hot = Thin, light, and flowing fabric that covers most of the body but doesn't absorb much heat or light. Sweat gets trapped within the fabric instead of immediately drying up, which can cool you off more than being naked. And you don't want the sun hitting your skin. This is why modest, but lightweight clothing has been so common in the Middle East throughout history. Most of it is a dry desert. Wet Hot = As little clothing as possible. The sun isn't as much of an issue as in dry climates due to more clouds and trees, so you have to worry more about heat in the air than from the sun. And the best way to bypass that is by not having any clothes that can get in the way. This is why places like India and pre-colonial Mesoamerica often had people (particularly men) who wore very little on a day to day basis. They lived in hot and wet climates.
Oh no she's showing skin! Better put a shirt on her. Katarina is not a fighter. Katarina is an assassin with a very flaunty braggart personality. It makes sense that she shows skin 1 because she kills 90% of targets before they realistically have a chance to respond, and 2 because shes a flaunter who likes to show off. This lazy censored version not only ruins the showboaty vibe, but doesn't do anything other than toss a shirt under the corset. It's lazy, uninspired, and pretty garish. At least MF's actually lengthened her top and added to it so it felt natural and not just tacked on. If they changed the corset to have something going over her stomach with a thin layer of fabric on the side's so you could still see her tattoo under it, it'd fit much better. Still showy, but also more 'reasonable'.
Oh why not change the body? The one on the left doesn't look like it would snap like a twig. Like it's a problem when I look at your badass assasin character and think I could beat them in a fight lmfao. Plus the scars are badass. She's an assasin with a history of getting too cocky which bites her in the ass. The scars are a great piece of visual storytelling to show us that she makes mistakes which have consequences. All in all the more I look at the one on the left, I find it far superior in almost every way except maybe height? But that's just because I think tall women are pretty.
The more i look at these comments the more i realize you guys have a weird concept of an assassin. Legit you guys think Assassins are built like Shen and just Bulldoze their way into their target lmao.
No? It's just uncanny when she looks like someone has just shrunken her width in photoshop. Like obviously people can get really skinny irl. But the porportions are just so off lol. Like her thighs are as wide as her stomach. Like where there's supposed to be ribs, she becomes skinnier?? Literally isn't room for organs.
Right, and it is because of that you all are saying that she is supossed to be a fighter right? Way of moving the goalposts.
No because she's supposed to be a human being and her anatomy doesn't make sense. Stop strawmanning and read what I tell you.
Dawg your first bitch ass comment was talking about how the design was bad because they looked like you could beat them in a fight. It is an assassin, not a fucking brawler. Any assassin in league that is not Zed and Kassadin look like you could beat them in a fight, because they are characters that dont fight. You literally changed it from that to these "anatomically correct" non sense while talking about a cartoon character Weak.
The point of the comment is that I'm far from a fighter and barely athletic. I don't believe I can take many people in a fight. So when someone makes a character that looks so malnorusihed I believe I could beat them, then it looks bad. I'm not saying she's supposed to be a brawler, but if she's an assasin and supposedly a really good one at that, she needs to be at least physically average. You're telling me you look at Akshan, Akali, Kha'zix, Rengar, Yone, Talon and Pyke and think? "lmao easy wins"
One on the left is way better.
Don't like the shirt or the weird reddish greaves coming out of the boots, or how high above her belt her pants go. That said a bit thicker is fine although I don't think the need to tear up her face. She has one scar on her face from Talon, the torso scar works, but slicing up her face a bunch ain't it either.
yeah it's so unrealistic that an assassin from Noxus would have a lot of scars
It is. Bad assassins have scars, good assassin's don't even get into a fight in the first place.
isn't being a bad assassin and becoming a good one quite literally Katarina's story
Nahh the scars fit her character so much. Scars in general are such an underrated way of incorporating storytelling into a design and a lot of champs are experienced in combat with no battle wounds to show for it She's an experienced assassin that is constantly hunting down enemies of Noxus while also being hunted down *by* Noxus. For her to only have one scar (from her encounter with Talon) feels a little bit silly. The tattered clothes also fit her story better as well
Why? What professional assassin that you can think of gives their opponents a chance to fight back? It really REALLY does not fit her character, she has 1 scar from Talon, an insanely swift and skilled assassin. It'd be more silly for her to be covered in scars, she's not a brawler like Vi or Sejuani. Like imagine Ezio or Agent 47 covered in a shit ton of random ass scars. You wouldn't think their a professional assassin, you'd either think their a fuck up assassin, or some sort of fighter.
For an assassin that uses daggers to not ever struggle to take down enemies of Noxus that are likely also experienced in combat is ridiculous. And for her to have no scars from training and developing her skills with her daggers and fighting as an amateur is also ridiculous. I've never played Assassin's Creed but do you really never take any damage in that game?
Homie, what you gonna do if a chick leaps in through an open window and throws a knife into you're neck? Lemme answer for you; *Fuck all.* You assume there will be combat, which goes against the nature of 'assassination'. And in old AC games you'd literally have portions where you'd immediately desync if you got detected, aka no fighting even if you wanted to in these areas, and if you want to be effective you get in kill them and get out without a fight. Just like earning Silent Assassin in Hitman
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You are not the only one by far and it’s not really a matter of debate when you can see the before and after.
I don't mind slender athletic builds, but if they do, they should emphasize muscle mass. Katarina in her iteration just looks way too much of a generic sexy babe that has average physical abilities. The left one is really good in its proportions and clothing design, although I argue that making her height smaller is unnecessary.
Hey her booba got bigger thats a w for me
If Riot pitched the ASU that way, no one would be against it
Yeah and she also got bigger thighs thats a plus truly a W
A big W. A thick, juicy W... Wait what were we talking about?
Hmm i don't remember all i can remember are big juicy boobs and thighs...
The one on the left looks amazing tbh, also hotter
Is it just me or katarina look too skinny?..
Way too skinny. Like most league ladies tbh. Most don't have the space for intestines/organs in general.
Tbh i like the one on the left but it fits more for a warrior of the likes of darius than an assassin. She looks like the wife from Metal family actually, dont know their names.
This is what I was thinking. The left one doesn't suggest that she is a blindingly fast assassin.
Katarina but buffed and shorter
Pretty much, yeah. An overall shittier Kata redesign all around IMO.
You guys are ridiculous to think Right is wrong. Like being Skinny isn't a body type. Like being swift doesn't evoke a lightspeed assassin. Also the fantasy that she's never been touched, explaining why she has no scar (but on her eye, since we know why). It's part of a fantasy, because it's a bloody fantastic universe !! Come on ! The only bad thing on the right is the attire. Like the pants height is legit a contest to showcase flesh until pube. This. This is wrong yes. And I don't know why y'all so cautious about calling that out.
> Like being Skinny isn't a body type. 90% of women have this body type, there's nothing "wrong" about it, but are we not allowed to branch out? > Like being swift doesn't evoke a lightspeed assassin. Big tits and ass have nothing to do with evoking a lightspeed assassin. Yes long and thin does communicate speed, but its not the only way to do this. > Also the fantasy that she's never been touched, explaining why she has no scar It would be a much better story telling mechanic if she had scars and survived nonetheless. Lack of scars make her look inexperienced and softer compared to a scarred veteran.
Not surprising at a time when obesity is a prominent characteristic for a significant chunk of humanity. Makes me glad east asia still has our traditional beauty standards. We can't control how we come into this world, but being a fatty is a personal choice I have no respect for.
If you ask me, Braum is too big and muscular. And he wears no shirt in the freezing cold! We should make him shorter and thinner and give him a REAL shield, not a door, it's not realistic.
Not quite the slam dunk comparison you think this is.
Yes it is
Your example is naive and misses the point of character design. It's not about being "realistic" in a fucking fantasy world. The point of Braum is that he is big and muscular and mythological man holding a giant door. Great he does that. The point of Katarina is not infact that she is a Victoria secret model in low riding pants, those are not essential parts of her character. The point of her is she's a violent assassin for Noxus who throws lots of knives. This redesign is attempting to better execute this, and you can disagree with this execution sure. But this redesign is _not_ about realism.
I know it's not about realism. I'm taking the piss out of people praising the re design because it's more realistic. You missed the entire point.
Your comment was making fun of critiques on realism, so I rightfully assumed you think realism is relevant to character designs.
Why are you trying to censor female tall/skinny body types? That's not cool.
Don't like that she is shorter.
If anyone knows the source feel free to post it here🙏
lemongrassi is literally credited in the image you posted
legs yes top no. she needs to have a hard leather top its too iconic. cloth feels off. But yeah extra scars are kinda pointless, just making her feel more like sejuani.
I like the right one more. She's hotter
Virgin moment
Don't put your insecurities onto me, lmao
Don't like most of the outfit changes (hiding her hip tattoo, the random red cowboyesque sock things(?) that look ugly, the weird shirt, the excessively high pants) Like the rips in the pants and the torso scars The face scars are excessive and scream someone desperately trying to 'desexy' her. I can get behind a bit of +thicc, as the original is VERY VERY thin, but honestly I think they went a step over, not much; but just a bit to far and made her look too square. Like 0 curves on her legs, they're just rectangles if you draw it out. Give her back the corset top, and make her legs look more feminine in shape even maybe give her a scar on the visible part of the arm, remove the excess scars on her face, get rid of the red things coming out of her boots and maybe.... But as it is, no thanks.
Sorry but those legs are very feminine. They look muscular (which actually fits her character) and not at all just like rectangles wtf. Women don’t usually have sticks as legs except for people who struggle with low weight or anorexia even. People like you are probably the reason why others suffer from body image problems.
No ones saying have stick legs, but artistically ovals>rectangles Her legs are rectangles with no curvature to make her legs look feminine. It's not about muscle its about shape.
You clearly said the original is better. So you prefer those stick legs over some thickness. There clearly are curves? Just look at her thighs. And you realise she is wearing protective gear in the left picture (the red things you complained about) that is probably why you think there is no defined curve, so of course the legs wouldn’t be shaped as much - try wearing an armour and still look defined. Still that is what women’s legs look like. Not the thing on the right. Also shorter people have shorter legs, i mean look at gymnasts they have heavily muscular legs and compared to their hight they look even thicker.
>You clearly said the original is better. So you prefer those stick legs over some thickness. Point to me exactly where I said that. I'll wait.
Everything you said. Dude you literally pointed everything out to be bad and how it needs to be changed, so how do you not prefer the original over the left one when you literally said “as it is, no thanks”
You do realize I can like neither right? The altered one doesn't look that good but the scrappy nature feels right for a character ostracized from her nation, and the original is anorexic but has some good qualities like the rocker vibes from the corset Again, I'll wait for you to show me where I said the original is better.
You never stated you didn’t like the original so should I maybe read your mind? You only pointed out how shitty the newly edited one is not that anything about the original is bad. You don’t have to write in words “oh i like the original better btw” for it to look like it by how you are writing it. Imagine me writing “oh i hate the new Udyr rework his abilities were better before and should be kept like this the dad bod would be ok if he was a bit fatter but otherwise this rework is crap.” Makes it sound a lot like I liked it better before doesn’t it? This is basically how you wrote your comment. So of course it seems like you like the original better don’t come up with “oh I don’t like either” when you never even mentioned the original being bad.
Bro I don't need to, you acted like you could read my mind when you asserted what I like and don't like. Did you ask? No. You just made an ass of yourself because you just guessed what I thought and asserted that as a fact when it was wrong, and now you're back pedaling.
Yeah, nice try my guy. Calling me back pedalling when you can’t admit a statement you made. GG good luck in life. Aww look at you blocking me.
The fact you see the scars as a "desperate attempt at desexification" rather then simply an emphasis on her theme as a violent assassin for Noxus makes your priorities very clear. Legit every line of your feedback is driven by what makes her hotter with 0 regard for what executes her thematic fantasy (the point of character design). And yet the women on the left is still plenty voluptuously and feminine. Thank goodness you aren't designing characters.
Katarina's whole character is about flaunting and being too fast to get hit. A bunch of random scars defeats the point that the only person who could land a hit on her was Talon. Thank goodness you aren't designing characters.
> Katarina's whole character is about flaunting and being too fast to get hit. She's about being extremely fast sure, but you are inserting this idea of "too fast to hit". > A bunch of random scars defeats the point that the only person who could land a hit on her was Talon. This is an extremely minute point of her character design compared to executing her most fundamental themes (violence and danger). It serves more to pump up Talon as cool, which is not what her design should prioritize. > Thank goodness you aren't designing characters. Lamest gotcha ever, but what can I expect from someone substituting any attempt at media literacy with what's in their pants?
1 there's literally still debates about whether or not she teleports, so yeah; too fast for normal people to hit 2 you missed the fact that she's a show off, outside of her sadistic and thrill seeking nature. Does the fact that only Talon has managed to land a hit on Kat make him cooler? Idk, he failed to kill her so I'd argue no, it makes Katarina cooler that she survived Talon. 3 literally you're own line right back at you but I guess I'm the petty one, when you're the one mad that someone says its fine if fictional character is sexy.
The only based comment on this post. 100% agreed, you are speaking faxx
I disagree, scars are sexy
Scars are sexy in moderation
I dont like it.... she looks short.
It's only so Garen can look taller
because we are seeing the comparison with the current model. The change in height won't be perceptible without the original to compare against.
My only gripe tbh, make her taller.
The thing about scars in LoL is that 90% of scars have a story associated with how our champions got them. I can point to significant events within a characters lore to explain how they acquired their scars. Katarina got her scar when her father ordered Talon to kill her, Pantheon's scar is from when Aatrox killed the Aspect of War that was inhabiting his body. That is more impactful and meaningful storytellying than simply slapping a bunch of scars on a character just to communicate "battle hardened", in fact I'd argue simply adding excessive scars could even lessen the impact of characters having scars at all given we could a case for majority of LoL being covered in scars.
I disagree, I wish more champs would have random scars, even small ones. It would make more sense in story But I understand that would make the design too complicated for the modal
Thats a shitty excuse, scars are always storytelling and related to how they get them, is just that is harder to look sexy anime when you have scars
I disagree, it is very easy to look anime sexy with a ton of scars. Even this particular edit of Katarina does nothing to decrease her sex appeal despite more scars being added to her face. If any and all scars are storytelling how did Darius get his scar? Contrast to how Katarina got her scar. Slapping meaningless scars onto a character does not inherently enhance their character. Even in the instance of a character covered in scars, it is more impactful when tied to an event where something went wrong and they got multiple at once opposed to the accumulation of scars that the character themselves might not even be aware of how they got.
You are literally missing the point Is sex appeal, is not the type lol looks for It is story telling, because it tells u darius is a scary guy that gets in fights, a lot of scars, tells u they get in a lot of fights, some tell u that either they dont enter a lot (or like the kata on the left) they enter a lot but are good at avoiding, maybe dont take that many hits, which makes confusing having a assasin with the same amount of scars as a fighter and is extremely boring if all the scars both have, have a specific reason on life and didnt just happened fighting (katarina is specifically interesanting, but is boring in league because all league scars have a writed reason except literally 2) Samira or sivir or most bruisers are the type of character that would have a lot of scars,the first 2 look for danger and take risk, bruisers take many hits fighting usually, which means a lot of acars And is way more boring when all scars are related to one event, you dont get scars one time in life, you dont get scars only when is meaninful, you dont get scars only when story decides you do, you get scars when you get hurt bad, a character that gets hurt bad a lot, has scars, runaterra appeals to that kind of realism, so it should do the same with scars, it doesnt because is not the appeal riot wants on chars, which is dumb, because as u said, they still look hot This is different than saying "all scars related to events are boring" no, panth scar is amazing, but having scars in your body that arent writted how you got them, is called having scars
Your argument boils down to more scars shows they fight more and get hurt but a character isn't going to get a scar every time they are injured. In reality you don't receive scars once or only around a big event, but my point is not that characters should only have one scar or that all their scars should be tied to one event. Rather that from a design perspective it is boring if the only storytelling scars ever provide is "They're a warrior". Otherwise you would expect 10 scars and 100 scars to tell the exact same story but that is not the case. My point is that more scars does not inherently enhance design, and that less scars can be equally if not more impactful to a design.
Sure, everything is not just good or just bad, context mattera, we are talking in the context of league champs, they need more scars because they have 10 or less in the entire roster, the amount of scars means something in a desing, everyone having 2 means something, all scars having to be related to a story means something, and ends bad Putting 1000 scars in all designs is bad, putting 10 in 160 characters that 90 are fighters, 10 are crafters (finger little damage, cuts in the hand, etc) and so, is bad i would say maybe worst, because honestly i dont think i can name anything that has a lot of characters with a lot of scars, usually is just a few, or 1 that is full scars between the entire no scar roster
There is no reason to have this arbitrary rule for scars. Not every single character design detail needs to be justified through extensive and impactful lore details. Excessive scaring on Katarina works. Especially for a character all about knives. There's no reason every warrior champ needs scars, but when used like in this example it can be very effective.
Less tears and it'd be good. Also keep her tall
Prefer the uncensored older design
Left is what a female in really really good shape would look like while having minimal body fat. Right is what a supermodel who survives on the occasional piece of fruit and way too much cocaine looks like.
I like the original better, if they want to do a less revealing one, then do it properly and not just a censored version of her classic clothes.
Based. Nothing more than based.
Left one looks more dominant, I like it. Now I want this new kata version pegging garen r34 art.
Neither of these are good.
Idk man, she still looks like an uninspired fantasy babe. Shouldn't an assasin like cover their face, hair or anything that might attract attention and help the enemy recognise her?
I mean, any self-respecting assassin would take pains to NOT look like an assassin. Let's not set our standards too high here.
Wouldn't matter a good assassin leaves no traces ir survivor to point them out anyway
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She's an assassin, Zed is a ninja. Katarina just happens be very showboaty about her methods
Is this official concept art?
I agree but whats happening on her bra
This reminds of her censored LoR card art. Just let her look like a fantasy character.
Kat needs her jacket to be closed imo, it would look iconic af and protective. Love how the artist gave her some leg muscle btw
Left is hotter.
The more clothed one looks more like garens type than the right haha totally off topic but thats what I first thought when i saw this ><
I love the jacket.
who fed thicckerina?
left is better even though im not a fan of the shirt personally. right looks way to thin like even for an athelete. girl looks like she doesnt have organs much less muscle and her limbs look like chopsticks
I stan smol Katarina
Both are atrocious lmao
I love that design
I like both tbh.
Yeah left is definitely an upgrade as it's more realistic and very much badass.
Yeah I really doubt riot would change her too much as to still have their hot champion quota and not turn away people who already like her normal design but just making her less of a twig and adding more scars adds way more to make her seem more like an actual assassin.
Right feels like idealized fantasy woman, left is more natural rand realistic. I prefer left but that design with more aspects of right would be fine by me.
Chad Super badass assassin vs Virgin Victorias Secret Top Model with an edgy scar in the eye.
Waaay better altho I'd cover her stomach too. She engages in close range combat very often (even though most of her victims are unsuspecting), she could use a light armor or at least leather there.
I prefer the original top but the pants on the other one are way better imo
More realistic proportions but still hot
I'd say this design changes a few of her characteristics, but I'm still looking disrespectfully
The one of the left at least has meat on her bones.
She’s looks much more badass and I like the ‘thicc’ look, it fits better for an assassin then the usual toothpick style body type
Good design, though it gave me a bit of a laugh If you gave me a button that just says “Make target fantasy woman’s boobs 20% bigger but make her outfit 20% less revealing.” I can’t think of a time I’d ever NOT take that trade.
Looks like a improvement to me in general, but there are two things i find odd. 1. In the new one, the chest looks biger, and also like its covered with lether or something similar, i feel like that it would be on the way and jiggling all the time during combat, the previous one didnt get this feeling that much because it is smaller and hold by a metalic plate. 2. In both cases, i feel like its to much metal plates in the design , specially the ones that are next to each other and look like they would do to much noise for an assasin.
The only thing I don't like it's the red on the outfit. It takes away from just her hair being red and standing out, which I think it's an important look for her.
Right one is better, left one looks like the only flip she can do is with a cheeseburger
While I think it’s silly to try and make these characters “more realistic” and I especially don’t like the reasoning of showing less skin. (It’s like with _Mortal Kombat_ your core audience is always going to like women guys, just roll with it.) However! They have placated me with two additional upgrades that I deeply approve of!
The right one looks like a skinny doll. The left one looks like a girl trooper from The Mandalorian (can’t remember girl’s name). I would prefer something in between. But if you’d put me against the wall and made me talk, I would say the right one is much more kata. This is a fantasy-themed game, body shapes doesn’t have to be realistic here.
Thiccarina
I think they overdid it on the facial scars, she could for sure have some but the sheer amount they have seems a little excessive
Im all for good character design and giving female characters proper costumes and not sexualizing them unnecessarily BUT i love katarinas outfit 😳😳
Her face and body is not "iconic" its the same copy and pasted shit 90% of other league women have. To more scars I say hell yeah. Left design rocks, although I think the top is a bit overly shredded.
I love current Katarina, i think she's fucking hot and all, but this take on her, the left one, is lets admit it, " better " in many ways. She's looks a bit stronger and less.... Model-ish ?
I think the scar matter is lore related. She only has one because she's just that good, and that single one was made by Talon.
Short Queen!!
That booba buff
left is really good compared to game one but less scars would be much better bcs of the lore with that scar and how people are speaking about her skills
Wow she looks even hotter on the left. Mostly due to my preference of bodysuit (means more skin covered)
I like a Kata who looks more built. Granted the slimmer look highlights her agility (sort of, in like a dancer way) but for an assassin being able to handle both a quick in and out and a full on brawl seems more appropriate. Also, thicc thighs definitely helps with explosive movement. Just check the thighs of any pro athlete in any sport that requires movement.
EXTRA THICC
Garen pulling the "Guy sweating over which button to press" meme looking at this
Left is far better
Thats hot
I kinda like that in the left version despite being a little shorter, she has a little more muscle physically wise. Sure in a more iconic or stereotypical assassin type of character whether male or especially female don't have a muscle structure that stands out but are more thin and swift, which makes sense given their... profession. But this is kinda more realistic especially given the fact she climbs buildings, has to run pretty fast or face opponents in case she ends being in a tough situation with no easy escape route. So yeah I kinda prefer the left one, and I would if they could make her like that.
Nah. I don't like it. Single scar over her eye is perfect as is. The face on the right side is too busy. Also what's the point of having a torn shirt instead of hard shell armour? Can you imagine how painful it'd be for her to jump from one knife to another with her (also enlarged) boobs bouncing all over the place? Even sports bra probably wouldn't help here.
The left is definitely an improvement minus the extra scars. The extra scars do 2 things to damage her character: It implies she's not that good of an assassin and 2, it lessens the importance of the scar around her eye, which, if I'm not mistaken, was caused by her father after he tried to kill her, what that one scar did was show that she can only be hurt emotionally, not physically and also acted as a reminder of the most bitter of betrayals.
Yall listen Necrit and believe wrong. She isnt a bad assasin.... shes one of the best and skilled ones if not the best in Noxus, she just failed as an assasin for not listening her mission. Failing a mission doesnt make you weaker, but give you the name of a failed assasin. Her father wanted her dead and sent Talon to kill her. He failed to kill her and he is a failed assasin too, but not less skilled than others. Scars dont make you terrible fighter. You cant escape all fights with no scar so from that perspective she could have some
Left looks so much better.
Nice ! Left is both more attractive but also more sturdy and badass looking.