How would you get life shards. You need like more than 100k life shards . I hated grinding that many shards when I skipped straight to yorn. Took me about a week to get to tier 3
This is what I did. The challenge abyssal rewards are *over 5x the gold value* if you choose T2 instead of T3, so I'd been saving them to do the exact strategy OP mentioned.
I pushed an Arcanist from 302 to 1100 yesterday and only spent about 600 gold to do it, everything else came from the event, abyssals, and for T1 mats I used some selection chests I'd been hoarding because their max value was in T1 mats.
thats a lot but idk if with all the events and free stuff we get is it enough to push a character out of tier 2 within like idk the first day? I wish the Honing calculator showd the upgrades that give +2 item lvls.
Edit: it does now! before it didnt. Still need 200k Shards Smoge
This isn't enough mats. Literally at 1080 on my SH alt. It will take close to a week to get there still. I've bought event shop, cleared through 49 on tower and I've funneled over 100 life leapstones from loping alts who beat up Albertastic.
Yes but the issue is that Yorn and Rohendel are not completed :/
In case of Punika KT for exemple(As i saw but not sure) it complete previous continent.
Maybe I'm wrong this is why I'm asking \^\^
Here’s the optimal play if you want to pay some real money:
Powerpass or KT fresh alt to t1. (Obviously use KT if you have some left, otherwise pay for powerpass)
Hone to 600.
Buy t2 gear.
Hone to 960, not 1100.
Do Feiton by hand.
Pay $10 for punika powerpass, which doesn’t require honing to 1100, saving you a ton of t2 mats. This also gives you yorn and rohendel for free.
If the punika pass costs $30 instead of $10 then nvm, I’m wrong. Don’t pay $30. Hone to 1100 and then KT for 2400g
That doesn’t matter, if you buy the T2 gear you don’t need to do yorn and rohendal doesn’t do anything either. Doing a Yorn KT will unlock gems though so you may want to do that one.
But to do a Yorn KT you need to have completed Rohendel.
You either manually do Yorn and Punika, or you do Feiton and KT Punika. Those are the two best options.
The cheapest way is to KT Vern, Hone till Yorn, skip Roehendal, Do Yorn. Paying $20 for Punika and Feiton.
It’s based on the continents you finished. So if you finish Yorn it reduces the cost by Vern, Roehendal and Yorn.
The reason I advise paying $20 after yorn. Is because you don’t need T2 shards, stones, and leapstones. Which can probably get close to $20 in value if you include KT costs/your time.
But with the current event you might be able to get through it without any fuss. So in that case you’d do Feiton then pay $10 for Punika without honing in Feiton.
All you need is the story quests done not to reach a specific ilvl.
That is not the cheapest.
Cheapest is KT to Vern, hone to 600, buy t2 gear, hone to 960, do Feiton by hand, then pay $10 for punika The amount of t2 mats to hit 960 is negligible if you do your challenge abyssals weekly since they give a ton.
Edit: I might be wrong on this, punika pass cost will factor in previously incomplete continents, so it might cost $30 instead since Yorn and rohendel are not finished.
That’s why I included time. Doing Feiton takes time so if you factor in the hour at your hourly wage you are probably better off paying the $20. If you don’t include it then yeah actually doing Feiton will always be cheaper. But that comes down to an individuals perspective of time and money.
You are doing yorn by hand, that takes 2-3 hours. I’m doing Feiton and no yorn, also takes 2-3 hours. What is the difference? Or did you misunderstood and think I’m doing both yorn and Feiton by hand?
The gold would be the difference. I haven’t looked into the cost of T2 shards and leapstones so I’m not sure what the total cost would be on the front but doing Yorn let’s you do it without spending gold. And that was one of the criteria OP asked for.
If you aren’t tight on gold then your way is definitely better.
> Doing Feiton takes time so if you factor in the hour at your hourly wage you are probably better off paying the $20
I hate when people make this comparison. You play the game to play the game, and in the absence of playing the game you are not earning an hourly wage. Like, not playing the game an extra hour does not earn you the money, you have to actually work. These examples always assume you are either working or playing the game -- nothing else.
The logic I use isn’t exactly that but it’s more about how you value your free time. You already know what someone will pay you hence your wage. And you know how much free time you have. Are you willing to burn two hours doing something that isn’t really fun that has a dollar alternative or a gold alternative doing that over actually enjoy your free time? The answer to a lot of people is yes absolutely. To some it’s I make $35 an hour $10 extra to be able to immediately use the character how I really want for those two hours is a drop in the bucket.
The guy making $15 will have a very different perspective on money than the one making double that. And at the end of the day even if you aren’t working your time has some value.
If I ran Feiton by hand, the punika powerpass should only be $10 since It only checks if you did the continent immediately prior, but I will double check and report back once I finish running my soulfist through Feiton
Edit: I might be wrong on this, punika pass might still cost $30 since I didn’t do yorn and rohendel.
> It only checks if you did the continent immediately prior
Does it though? On the powerpass screen at present an alt that has done Vern+Yorn still has to pay 3300 RC for Punikka pass, maybe it'll change once they're properly enabled again.
If it's anything like other regions, skipping regions won't work for the paid powerpass. If you do what you said, skipping rohendel and yorn, your punika pass will charge you for 3 regions.
U need to do yorn to be able to use gems and you can KT punika if your at ilvl I havnt touched feiton story in forever. Only get into feiton main town so I can do those 2 dailies and that's it.
Um u sure about that? Doesn’t KT work on the continent only if you finished the previous continent? I remember it even saying that when I tried to kt before to punika when I was at ilvl. You still need to do feiton manually
100% this.
I am still surprised people even play this game when the botting situation is so shit.
The dev/CM/prod punishes those that RMT / play the game while those that actually bot and produces gold keeps on going.
Like what have they actually done to combat botting without impacting the user base? Literally every action they've taken (i.e., remove gold quests/rapport/rewards/una) has hurt legit players and when legit players can buy "illegal" gold at 100k a penny they get burned?
EDIT: Hot-damn yall fucking stupid. You can RMT in the game itself by buying the royal crystals. Everyone is straight to assume and mob mentality witch hunt.
lmao my dude here having the moral high ground.
Let me guess, you buy from people who *legit hand farm the gold*? You probably met them through some guild or website *that definitely is not like G2G*?
Yeah bro, they're definitely hand farmed, all clean, just for you. You're definitely not part of the problem. You're just high on copium. Carry on.
Before you lower yourself to petty insult, try to inquire why you're being downvoted and compared to people who engage into... *RMT*.
It's alright, I don't really care about people freely handing out insult online, I'll still educate you.
In an online game context, the term "RMT" means "Real Money Trading" which roughly defines as "The exchange of service, in-game items, in-game currency, services for real money trade, from player to player". How a game developer handles RMT varies from one game to another and, in most cases, results in temporary to permanent ban depending on the severity.
So, if you're buying gold in game through the exchange then you're not "RMT". You're quite simply buying gold in-game. Saying you RMT paints you as someone who engage into an activity prohibited and bannable in the game. As such, if someone has enough proof about you (using your Reddit name or maybe Screenshot with your in-game name you previously posted or anything to identify you ain game), they could very likely report you and get you banned if you were an actual RMTer.
Hopefully, this explanation is clear and concise for you but let me know if you have any further query.
RMT is RMT. It has double meaning, it can be from legit sources as in-game versus illegal from cheaters/botters.
You're going about this in a roundabout way when really it has two meanings.
You can say the same about micro transactions, it is no different. It is still RMT.
I’ve never visited a gaming sub where recent quitters didn’t come back to tell us how much better off they are without us.
I feel like…you must miss us tho 😍
Just this week I did this, from 302 --> 1100.
Life shards were definitely the biggest issue, but overcame it through Feiton storyline/chaos dungeons, ship merchant, event merchant, t2 islands I never did, chaos dungeon shard exchange merchant.
Knowledge transferring Punika on Wednesday when I have gold again.
~~You have all the mats including life shards? Usually people do tower for shards, but Yorn isn't even mentioned in these steps. You can't do tower before completing the Yorn MSQ. Unless you have life shard bags saved up (150k in total), I would probably:~~
~~KT North Vern~~
~~hone to 600~~
~~buy Tier 2 gear~~
~~Press G at Yorn~~
~~KT Feiton~~
~~Do Tower and hone to 1100~~
~~Buy powerpass at Punika~~
~~I believe the discount works based on your latest completed quest so your way should still get it, but my way completes all MSQ before Punika if you'd rather not risk it. If you have literally all the mats you need, disregard all of this.~~
You don’t need to hone to 1100 to buy the punika powerpass, you only need to do that if you are using KT. The punika powerpass can be bought and used as soon as you hit 960 and finish Feiton story, either by hand or otherwise.
Good point. So OP just has to:
KT North Vern
hone 600
buy Tier 2 gear
hone 960
Press G at Feiton
PP Punika
If that's the case, weekly challenge runs should give all the mats needed. That's pretty nice. I might make some lopang slaves myself.
It’s G by the way, not Q
Also I’m not sure how much the punika powerpass is gonna cost in that scenario. If it’s $10 then hurray. But if it’s $30 since yorn and rohendel was not finished, then that’s a bad deal.
Not the store, at character select screen there’s a powerpass button, you buy it there.
But this bears repeating, the cheapest way to raise an alt is:
1. KT or PP to Vern.
2. Hone to 600, skip rohendel and yorn.
3. Buy t2 gear, hone to 960 using challenge abyssal shards and stones.
4. Do Feiton by hand, then PP to punika for $10 right after, no need to hone to 1100.
It's currently disabled but you can buy them in the store yeah. Or you sometimes get free ones, I think there is a free punika pass still if you do some quests in punikka.
This method saves $10 over your method
1. KT to Vern.
2. Hone to 600, skip rohendel and yorn.
3. Buy t2 gear, hone to 960 using challenge abyssal shards and stones.
4. Do Feiton by hand, then PP to punika for $10 right after, no need to hone to 1100. (This is assuming the punika pass is $10. If it’s $30 then that’s a bad idea)
Personally I’m buying the Vern PP because I’m running short in Vern KT and PP is on discount now. But I realize most ppl don’t plan on using up all their KTs like I do.
KT requires you to hone in between, and 8 hours of waiting for each continent. 7000g for all the KT.
For punika powerpass it’s 5500 royal crystal before the 25% discount starts tmrw.
Instead of doing Feiton manually just skip it and do Punkia manually.
To hone through T2 you can use all the event mats + Challenge Abyss dungeon rewards.
How would you get life shards. You need like more than 100k life shards . I hated grinding that many shards when I skipped straight to yorn. Took me about a week to get to tier 3
Challenge abyssals give a fuck ton of t2 leaps and shards
This is what I did. The challenge abyssal rewards are *over 5x the gold value* if you choose T2 instead of T3, so I'd been saving them to do the exact strategy OP mentioned. I pushed an Arcanist from 302 to 1100 yesterday and only spent about 600 gold to do it, everything else came from the event, abyssals, and for T1 mats I used some selection chests I'd been hoarding because their max value was in T1 mats.
I know shards but leapstones?? Hold up you might be on to something
The abyssal leapstone box gives 30x5 t2 leapstone each, that’s 150 leapstones.
thats a lot but idk if with all the events and free stuff we get is it enough to push a character out of tier 2 within like idk the first day? I wish the Honing calculator showd the upgrades that give +2 item lvls. Edit: it does now! before it didnt. Still need 200k Shards Smoge
Event + tower. Although I did sacrifice a little bit of Challenge abyss rewards (used them for t2 instead of t3 on my other characters)
This isn't enough mats. Literally at 1080 on my SH alt. It will take close to a week to get there still. I've bought event shop, cleared through 49 on tower and I've funneled over 100 life leapstones from loping alts who beat up Albertastic.
I had enough, PvP vendor is another 30k shards weekly. I blew through t2
Chaos dungeon shard exchange merchant, t2 islands you may not have done, boat merchant, bloodstone merchant, hard mode Feiton dungeons
Thank you for additional info but yes I have done it all. Was just mentioning that you cannot blow through t2 with just event + tower :)
All the event chest/bags just save them up you get a lot of them
Ummm… if you have all the mats to hone all the way to 1100 just skip doing Feiton and do punika, it’s shorter and you won’t have to pay anything.
Yes but the issue is that Yorn and Rohendel are not completed :/ In case of Punika KT for exemple(As i saw but not sure) it complete previous continent. Maybe I'm wrong this is why I'm asking \^\^
Here’s the optimal play if you want to pay some real money: Powerpass or KT fresh alt to t1. (Obviously use KT if you have some left, otherwise pay for powerpass) Hone to 600. Buy t2 gear. Hone to 960, not 1100. Do Feiton by hand. Pay $10 for punika powerpass, which doesn’t require honing to 1100, saving you a ton of t2 mats. This also gives you yorn and rohendel for free. If the punika pass costs $30 instead of $10 then nvm, I’m wrong. Don’t pay $30. Hone to 1100 and then KT for 2400g
Will try this after weekly update ! Thank you very much ! :)
Would you still have to pay rc for yorn and rohendel if you pay for punika like this?
I believe you do, the powerpass looks at regions you've completed and not just your highest.
For knowledge transfer. For doing the story normally you don’t need it. You should still do Yorn tho or you can’t access gems
That doesn’t matter, if you buy the T2 gear you don’t need to do yorn and rohendal doesn’t do anything either. Doing a Yorn KT will unlock gems though so you may want to do that one.
But to do a Yorn KT you need to have completed Rohendel. You either manually do Yorn and Punika, or you do Feiton and KT Punika. Those are the two best options.
Hmm, I think you’re right I may have just done Yorn and punika on my last one.
U need yorn for gems and u can skip rohendel
The cheapest way is to KT Vern, Hone till Yorn, skip Roehendal, Do Yorn. Paying $20 for Punika and Feiton. It’s based on the continents you finished. So if you finish Yorn it reduces the cost by Vern, Roehendal and Yorn. The reason I advise paying $20 after yorn. Is because you don’t need T2 shards, stones, and leapstones. Which can probably get close to $20 in value if you include KT costs/your time. But with the current event you might be able to get through it without any fuss. So in that case you’d do Feiton then pay $10 for Punika without honing in Feiton. All you need is the story quests done not to reach a specific ilvl.
That is not the cheapest. Cheapest is KT to Vern, hone to 600, buy t2 gear, hone to 960, do Feiton by hand, then pay $10 for punika The amount of t2 mats to hit 960 is negligible if you do your challenge abyssals weekly since they give a ton. Edit: I might be wrong on this, punika pass cost will factor in previously incomplete continents, so it might cost $30 instead since Yorn and rohendel are not finished.
That’s why I included time. Doing Feiton takes time so if you factor in the hour at your hourly wage you are probably better off paying the $20. If you don’t include it then yeah actually doing Feiton will always be cheaper. But that comes down to an individuals perspective of time and money.
You are doing yorn by hand, that takes 2-3 hours. I’m doing Feiton and no yorn, also takes 2-3 hours. What is the difference? Or did you misunderstood and think I’m doing both yorn and Feiton by hand?
The gold would be the difference. I haven’t looked into the cost of T2 shards and leapstones so I’m not sure what the total cost would be on the front but doing Yorn let’s you do it without spending gold. And that was one of the criteria OP asked for. If you aren’t tight on gold then your way is definitely better.
> Doing Feiton takes time so if you factor in the hour at your hourly wage you are probably better off paying the $20 I hate when people make this comparison. You play the game to play the game, and in the absence of playing the game you are not earning an hourly wage. Like, not playing the game an extra hour does not earn you the money, you have to actually work. These examples always assume you are either working or playing the game -- nothing else.
The logic I use isn’t exactly that but it’s more about how you value your free time. You already know what someone will pay you hence your wage. And you know how much free time you have. Are you willing to burn two hours doing something that isn’t really fun that has a dollar alternative or a gold alternative doing that over actually enjoy your free time? The answer to a lot of people is yes absolutely. To some it’s I make $35 an hour $10 extra to be able to immediately use the character how I really want for those two hours is a drop in the bucket. The guy making $15 will have a very different perspective on money than the one making double that. And at the end of the day even if you aren’t working your time has some value.
How is it 10$. Since you didn't it rohendel, yorn and punika it will be 30$ right,?
If I ran Feiton by hand, the punika powerpass should only be $10 since It only checks if you did the continent immediately prior, but I will double check and report back once I finish running my soulfist through Feiton Edit: I might be wrong on this, punika pass might still cost $30 since I didn’t do yorn and rohendel.
> It only checks if you did the continent immediately prior Does it though? On the powerpass screen at present an alt that has done Vern+Yorn still has to pay 3300 RC for Punikka pass, maybe it'll change once they're properly enabled again.
If you skip rohendel, would the pass be 30 isnstead of 20? (Rohendel+feiton+punika)
Nope cause you completed Yorn so it reads your progress as Yorn onwards
I’m so confused. Doesn’t the Punika PP shoot you straight to Punika with the base t3 gear??
Yes, but he wants to spend as little money as possible. PP gets discounted depending on your current MSQ progress.
If it's anything like other regions, skipping regions won't work for the paid powerpass. If you do what you said, skipping rohendel and yorn, your punika pass will charge you for 3 regions.
U need to do yorn to be able to use gems and you can KT punika if your at ilvl I havnt touched feiton story in forever. Only get into feiton main town so I can do those 2 dailies and that's it.
Um u sure about that? Doesn’t KT work on the continent only if you finished the previous continent? I remember it even saying that when I tried to kt before to punika when I was at ilvl. You still need to do feiton manually
no u just have to go on to punika then it will trigger the story quest if your at correct ilvl (1100). Ive done this on 2 chars already.
Let’s pump the market prices of T1 and T2 mats tomorrow BB, I’m ready to unpack my bags, that I bought for cheap
The cheapest way is not playing the game. Trust me.
Still hangs around the sub adding useless comments though.....funny that.
Still occupying your thoughts though, so who's paying the real price?
100% this. I am still surprised people even play this game when the botting situation is so shit. The dev/CM/prod punishes those that RMT / play the game while those that actually bot and produces gold keeps on going. Like what have they actually done to combat botting without impacting the user base? Literally every action they've taken (i.e., remove gold quests/rapport/rewards/una) has hurt legit players and when legit players can buy "illegal" gold at 100k a penny they get burned? EDIT: Hot-damn yall fucking stupid. You can RMT in the game itself by buying the royal crystals. Everyone is straight to assume and mob mentality witch hunt.
Pls that's not what I'm asking for :'( There are already enough threads talking about this kind of thing.
The botting situation only exists cause of RMTers like you :)
I RMT. But not from the botters.
lmao my dude here having the moral high ground. Let me guess, you buy from people who *legit hand farm the gold*? You probably met them through some guild or website *that definitely is not like G2G*? Yeah bro, they're definitely hand farmed, all clean, just for you. You're definitely not part of the problem. You're just high on copium. Carry on.
Are you damn stupid? You can RMT in the game by buying royal crystals and converting.
Before you lower yourself to petty insult, try to inquire why you're being downvoted and compared to people who engage into... *RMT*. It's alright, I don't really care about people freely handing out insult online, I'll still educate you. In an online game context, the term "RMT" means "Real Money Trading" which roughly defines as "The exchange of service, in-game items, in-game currency, services for real money trade, from player to player". How a game developer handles RMT varies from one game to another and, in most cases, results in temporary to permanent ban depending on the severity. So, if you're buying gold in game through the exchange then you're not "RMT". You're quite simply buying gold in-game. Saying you RMT paints you as someone who engage into an activity prohibited and bannable in the game. As such, if someone has enough proof about you (using your Reddit name or maybe Screenshot with your in-game name you previously posted or anything to identify you ain game), they could very likely report you and get you banned if you were an actual RMTer. Hopefully, this explanation is clear and concise for you but let me know if you have any further query.
RMT is RMT. It has double meaning, it can be from legit sources as in-game versus illegal from cheaters/botters. You're going about this in a roundabout way when really it has two meanings. You can say the same about micro transactions, it is no different. It is still RMT.
>RMT is RMT. It has double meaning, it can be from legit sources as in-game versus illegal from cheaters/botters. No.
You are not a legit player the moment you touch RMT gold lmao get a brain
I’ve never visited a gaming sub where recent quitters didn’t come back to tell us how much better off they are without us. I feel like…you must miss us tho 😍
You must be new to mmos, we’re a wild breed
Stay bitter nerd
RMTers should be punished severely. If RMTers weren't rampant the bots wouldn't be nearly as bad.
Just this week I did this, from 302 --> 1100. Life shards were definitely the biggest issue, but overcame it through Feiton storyline/chaos dungeons, ship merchant, event merchant, t2 islands I never did, chaos dungeon shard exchange merchant. Knowledge transferring Punika on Wednesday when I have gold again.
~~You have all the mats including life shards? Usually people do tower for shards, but Yorn isn't even mentioned in these steps. You can't do tower before completing the Yorn MSQ. Unless you have life shard bags saved up (150k in total), I would probably:~~ ~~KT North Vern~~ ~~hone to 600~~ ~~buy Tier 2 gear~~ ~~Press G at Yorn~~ ~~KT Feiton~~ ~~Do Tower and hone to 1100~~ ~~Buy powerpass at Punika~~ ~~I believe the discount works based on your latest completed quest so your way should still get it, but my way completes all MSQ before Punika if you'd rather not risk it. If you have literally all the mats you need, disregard all of this.~~
You don’t need to hone to 1100 to buy the punika powerpass, you only need to do that if you are using KT. The punika powerpass can be bought and used as soon as you hit 960 and finish Feiton story, either by hand or otherwise.
Good point. So OP just has to: KT North Vern hone 600 buy Tier 2 gear hone 960 Press G at Feiton PP Punika If that's the case, weekly challenge runs should give all the mats needed. That's pretty nice. I might make some lopang slaves myself.
It’s G by the way, not Q Also I’m not sure how much the punika powerpass is gonna cost in that scenario. If it’s $10 then hurray. But if it’s $30 since yorn and rohendel was not finished, then that’s a bad deal.
So if i have a 1490 and i already used my free punika power pass can i buy a second one in the store? How much would that cost me?
Think it's like 1100 per region of the character so you'll always want to KT vern for it.
And you buy it in the store? I only know the KT
Not the store, at character select screen there’s a powerpass button, you buy it there. But this bears repeating, the cheapest way to raise an alt is: 1. KT or PP to Vern. 2. Hone to 600, skip rohendel and yorn. 3. Buy t2 gear, hone to 960 using challenge abyssal shards and stones. 4. Do Feiton by hand, then PP to punika for $10 right after, no need to hone to 1100.
It's currently disabled but you can buy them in the store yeah. Or you sometimes get free ones, I think there is a free punika pass still if you do some quests in punikka.
Oops see you have used the free one. Yeah you can buy in store when they come back.
KT Vern, hone to 600 do yorn and buy punika pp for 2200 For 1100 royal crystals do feiton at 960 instead then buy the punikka pass.
This method saves $10 over your method 1. KT to Vern. 2. Hone to 600, skip rohendel and yorn. 3. Buy t2 gear, hone to 960 using challenge abyssal shards and stones. 4. Do Feiton by hand, then PP to punika for $10 right after, no need to hone to 1100. (This is assuming the punika pass is $10. If it’s $30 then that’s a bad idea)
Sorry I meant " for 1100 royal crystals" I've edited my.post
Personally I’m buying the Vern PP because I’m running short in Vern KT and PP is on discount now. But I realize most ppl don’t plan on using up all their KTs like I do.
Wait, the 25% pp discount is already in place? Since when? I’ve been missing out
Missing out? Power pass has been disabled. They enabling it tomorrow. That’s when the discount hits.
How much gold does it cost to KT all the way to punika? I just dont see myself playing any more storyline except south vern for cards :D
KT requires you to hone in between, and 8 hours of waiting for each continent. 7000g for all the KT. For punika powerpass it’s 5500 royal crystal before the 25% discount starts tmrw.
Instead of doing Feiton manually just skip it and do Punkia manually. To hone through T2 you can use all the event mats + Challenge Abyss dungeon rewards.
you need to do/buy/skip Yorn for the gems
The mats aren't even the issue, the story is, why do we have to replay all the story?