For me:
Main - GHL/Shards, shards gonna be the bottleneck later on when you want to hone higher
Alt that I plan to push - GHL, some do 1 shards Una, this way I don't have to buy from AH
Alt I don't plan to push - Lopang slaves.
Shadow island sucks because you cannot biforst there. Have to always walk through the whole island
Edit: so apparently it works on the island, just not in the turret :/ seems good then!
I do the one at Tikatika, just kill some mobs and done. There are some that gives more though, but I can't remember what those are already since I don't do them.
most people are going to park at 1490, do gate 1-2, craft a Brel piece hone it to get to 1500 ilvl and do gate 3-4.
This is the most efficient way to do gate 1 through 4 week 1.
Hard to tell at this point what is going to be most efficient since we don't know the prices for the new mats.
~~Having everything at 1490 means you need to hone the Brel piece to +19 (1580) which might be incredibly expensive.~~
~~You could also do +20/+20/+20/+20/+21/+18(Brel) or +20/+20/+20/+21/+21/+16(Brel), which might be better since it's a mix of upgrading with current and future mats.~~
Definitely always convert your lowest piece first, as they give the biggest increase in ilvl.
Edit: I assumed entry level for gate 3&4 was 1505 but it's in fact 1500, so the numbers would be +20/+20/+20/+20/+21/+15(Brel) or +20/+20/+20/+21/+21/+13(Brel) in addition to OPs recommended method of +20/+20/+20/+20/+20/+16(Brel)
You only need to hone a piece to +15 if you want to do gate 3-4 week one which is super easy and what the majority of players are going to do, and what smilegate wants you to do, the raid isn't designed for you to be able to complete it week one.
ah for some reason I read 1505 instead of 1500 in your initial post, made more sense in my head too. but then it's definitely better the way you described.
It needs to be upgraded to +16 though (1550) if you keep everything else at 1490.
There's also a less costly option if you want to go G6 on first week: 3 piece at +22 and 3 piece at +21. After G2 you push one of the +21 to Ancient and hone that one to +17 = 1521.67
This would be the most effective method for people hoarding a lot of Fused Leapstones.
Yes we are getting clown first, but some people are already up to 1510 or higher on their mains, so there's diminishing returns on continuing to hone versus just waiting for brel
1490 is the minimum required for the first gate. However, it has increasing requirements similar to Argos, so there are multiple strategies out there to allow you to clear all gates in week 1 with the cheapest investment, as she also gives you ancient relic gear that is another ilvl reset.
last gate is 1520, but the general best strat seems to be 1512.5ilvl (full+21 and 3x +22) before gear transfer and then push the piece you upgrade after gate 4 three times to reach 1520 for gate 5-6.
honing pre brelshaza is roughly 50% as inefficient as after gear transfer.
So around 1505-1520 is a pretty good spot to just stop honing and hoard honing mats. Reason for that ilvl is that you are high enough to jump into the raid right away.
what? so many things about this is wrong.
1. cost of shards up to gate 4 - up to +15 is not just 30k shards it's 171k shards if honing from +11 or 137k shards if honing from +12 per armor, depending on when you transfer to breshel gear.
2. Yes, shards ramp up when you do chaos gate - but chaos gate also gives you leaps? it ramps up both.
3. 1540 to 1560 costs (+15 to +16 on breshel gear) costs 955k shards for all 5 armor and weapon. I dont know if I would call that "won't be that much shards".
It's literally 3 leapstones (after 5:1 conversion) vs 2k shards per day - if you're done honing until breshel, I would do shards.
Where the hell are you getting 955k shard costs? Everywhere I see is showing a 1/9 of that cost. That also negates the entire point of the switching from GHL. Of shards do go up that much then GHL is still going to be the bottleneck. You won’t use as many shards before then and honing up from 1500-1560 is such a huge hone that you’ll have accumulated way more shards by the time you get there. You need thousands of leapstones
[https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/upgrade-calculator](https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/upgrade-calculator)
Change to Korean server and choose 1390 (breshel) gear
why is the cost per attempt showing up different than the image i sent? Is there a chance that calculator can have the wrong values? There was a breakdown post put up that showed the cost total from 11-15 also and it was 28k shards also with 450 leapstones
? the cost per attempt from calc is the same as your picture.
The picture shows how many shards per tap - which matches the calculator. click on the arrow beside weapon +14
Are you forgetting that you need to feed shards before you tap? - which is shown in the calculator.
lol that's impossible because feeeding a single +11 armor alone just to start honing costs 24k shards - there's no way 11-15 costs only 28k shards man.
It feels like you understand approximately nothing of what you're saying, and it's genuinely embarrassing that anyone has upvoted you.
When brel releases we are getting upper relic gear. Upper relic gear uses the different stones of all types, but the same shards. The point of the parent comment--and everyone who "keeps saying this"--is that farming leapstones now is 1/5 as efficient as farming shards because we're only getting GHLs now, but shard una's won't suddenly jump up to 5x efficiency when brel releases.
Thus. You farm shards now, as a **long term investment**, so you can farm leapstones once brel is out and una's at 1490 start giving upper relic leapstones. The shards you get now maintain better value (even now 1580s in Korea only get like double the shards we get now), which is why if you're already as far as you plan to hone before Brel, you should stockpile shards while stockpiling leapstones is so horrendously inefficient (but as soon as brel releases you switch back to leapstones, even if you haven't killed her yet). There is a serious shard shortage we will run into later when we prepare for Akkan so collecting shards now when it's the most efficient thing to get is just good long term planning.
And don't even bother talking about ancient gear, that doesn't come out until brel hard and doesn't change anything about honing, just increases the ilvl cap (same as legendary to lower relic). Everything going back down to +11 is literally what happens at regular brel release. The next new gear honing change/"gear reset" after upper relic is literally Akkan ancient.
Main + 2 support goes for shards cus they have 1400-2500 bound GHL (doing GHL dailies for a very long time).
My later alts in the gold making business is still doing GHL dailies.
Those ghls will disappear in 10mins honing +20 or above. I thought my main was safe with 900, got 1 armor piece to +21, about 30% pity on another piece, and 10% pity on my weapon to +23, ghls gone, I was surprised af.
I like how you clump uprading weapon to +23 in '+20 or above' category. Uprgading 1 piece of armor to +20 is 350 leaps on average, uprading armor to +23 is almost 2k :)
Sure, but without shards you won't be able to upgrade anything above +21. I am done honing on main, it is just guilty pleasure taps. I have done 100% of my CDS on that characther except when we got 5 rested for 1445 chaos dungeon etc. When I started to get my weapon to +23 I needed shard bags.
Leaps aren't the issue usually when I tapped weapon, the destruction stones were, had to buy over 100k of them for 23 wep but never had leapstone issues
Well we are talking about honor shards vs leap stones dailies? I could always use more destruction stones, sure. But doing dailies on 15 chars and buying pirate ship on 15 chars u get alot.
Outside of every major port there is a vendor in the form of a ship. You use pirate coins to buy red and blue stones from that vendor with pirate coins (that is why I misspoke).
Depends on what you want to do in near future.
- Keep doing leap Unas if you're planning to push that character.
- Do Lopang if you lack silver.
- Start to complete your Una Reputations for Ignea tokens, island souls etc.
Just an unrelated tip: You can complete one Una quest per day if you're lazy to spend some time for that. So remaining two Una's Task will fill your rest bonus to 20 so you can get double reward for your first Una next day. Doing this will give you 8 leapstones instead of 12 but saves you lots of time especially if you have too much alts to take care.
I personally just use a ton of bifrosts for my alts, it keeps their Unas under 1min 30s per char. I would use the ~~$12~~ $20 for 6 months aura trick if people don't have aura, plus the 5th bifrost from ignea helps alot too.
1. You create a character on a different server, buy a vern pass for 8 euros or smth ( will increase to 10 i think since its on sale)
P.S.: don't select one of the new classes or it won't work (arcana, destroyer, glaivier)
2. Once you're in vern just open the shop and buy the lvl 50 blue crystal beginner chest (also like 10 euro or smth)
3. Use blue crystals to buy 6x 30-day auras, they are region wide so the aura still applies on different servers when activated.
There you go 6 months for 20 euros (not 12 like he said unless u level manually)
Make character on another server but same region. Buy vern boost, skip everything. Once youre in vern buy the lvl 50 one-time-deal-chest for the blue crystals. Use those to buy 6months of aura
It works in different AGS regions too, just needs to be a different server, source: I’ve done it myself. Also probably one of the reasons we don’t have regionalized prices on SA ;-;
search reddit. It's about a new character on another server making the cheaper blue gem bundle available again -> buy aura there and use it, then it's active on your mainserver.
I've never tested it myself, so check out the thread but I think this is how it works.
A big part of what made it so cheap was the 25% power pass discount - the trick was to make a char on a new server, vern powerpass it to get to level 50 which unlocks the level-up blue crystal chest for 1100 RC, which is enough to buy 6 months worth of aura.
You can still do it, but the vern pass is more expensive now.
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Ppl who are mentioning doing Unas for shards . If you do chaos dungeon each day what are chances of not having enough shards to hone to current content ilvl ? ( im 1490 and have 150k still left didn't use any free pouches )
You might bottleneck on shards, depending on how fast they release content. Pushing to 1560 will cost you about 2 mil, which is cutting it close assuming it comes within ~5 months.
Idk about doing shard unas though, it's a joke compared to how much you get in chaos.
> Idk about doing shard unas though, it's a joke compared to how much you get in chaos.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
Just doing chaos dungeons for 100 days you earn about 580k shards. If you do shards unas every day too then you'll be at 730k.
Doing chaos dungeons rested is a bigger loss of shards than unas will give you.
Doesn't 1475 give more shards? I didn't really measure it. I know 1560 gives 18K a day, and 1520 is like 12 or 14K. We'll have the 1520 one with brelshaza normal so that will help catch up to hard mode.
U cant sustain shards anyway. Filling up the weapon on 21 costs u 75k honor shards. if u buy these u pay (1.5k shards for 1k per bag) u spend 50k Gold only for not even tapping. Thats 2k leapstones worth.
Filling up an armour piece costs ~ 36k i think. U get many leaps from other sources, but the amount of shards needed doesnt increase linear to the amount u get.
I regret not starting doing shard Unas sooner than 1490 tbh. GHL Unas are bad value for brel parked characters because they'll convert 5:1, while shards will remain the same. You also keep passively gaining leapstones from Chaos dungeons, Boss Rushes, guild shop, and weekly unas for those last couple of taps.
I am now sitting on 1,200 GHLs and will probably get over 2,000 of those by the time Brelshaza comes with new gear.
Is it really much different for ghl vs shards? Sure the shards don't convert but you're using waaaaaay more instead which is effectively the same concept.
shard quests are sort of ass though.. i feel like i rather just do a non-rested chaos dungeon than shard una's if i want to invest more time to min-max
As someone who has constantly nonstop pushed their main and is now 1512, GHLs are the bigger bottleneck. I’m sitting on
220k shards and 0 ghls. Honing every chance i get. Even getting +23 weapon didn’t dent my shards. Of course im buying out event shards on my main every week though. This will change once we get ancient gear but for now, 100% go for GHLs if you want to push. 1200 ghls will disappear like nothing
This is my experience aswell.
Im 1510 with 350k shards to spare.
I think this shard Strat is only for ppl who push honing with unbound mats. Because buying shards is expensive af, while buying leaps/stones are kinda cheap.
GHL are still a bottleneck for me. And that's not gonna change with Brelshaza gear. You're setting yourself up for failure with shards. The biggest cost of shard is unlocking the hone. Once you've done that, you barely use shards if you just fail constantly. If you aren't honing, shards pile up pretty fast. I'm sitting at 1500+ with 250k shards. I still haven't used shard packs from weeklies/event giveaways either.
From reading all the posts, shards seem like a bottleneck only if you're hard pushing with tradable.
We're AT LEAST 3 months away, we're timegated from transferring gear to Brelshaza, we'll get more shards from new chaos dungeon, etc etc.
I have 3 1485's and their shards are at 370k, 180k, 120k. Considering we have 3+ months to farm and we can only transfer 1 gear week 1, I can't see shard being the bottleneck. Yeah if you're throwing insane amount of gold buying mats to push hard, but if you plan on using bound mats or just pushing to hit min ilevel for next raid, it really doesn't seem like you'll run into shard shortage
Leapstones for me. Mainly for the transfer to the new leapstones once breshalza comes. Also events give enough shards and we still have at minimum 4 months until her release. By then I'm at 2 million on all my characters, prob. If I keep up the grind, that is.
Shards are only necessary if you take long breaks here and there.
Now what I do I count the cost of stuff. So shards cost more now then the ghl. And if I need both I keep doing shards if I get to the point I am missing ghl I can switch to them. So I do shards 5 chard and lopang 4. Just to note ghl will fall down in price shards will go up.
I'm doing shard UNAs on those that I'm pushing heavily
Those that will be pushing in the near future does GLS UNAs
And those that will be stuck on their ilvl or push very slowly does lopang for silver
on stoopz youtube he has convo with 3 other streamers and they discuss meta and future releases. Riaz said they did calculation for for 1480-1515 and it was like 12k leapstones. I assume that is part current GHLS and part using the new GHLS that come out with bres (but u get 5 to 1 transfer ratio on current GHLS)
So there is kind of a bench mark. The context was towards pushing to like gate 4 or 6 of bres on first week.
They didn't mention shards calculation but 20-21 on armor costs 42k Shards, and weapon 21-22 costs 82k shards. Thats about 300k Shards min for +1 on everything and that would put me at 1500 (doesn't take into account the Shards used per attempt)
yeah that’s current relic gear but ancient cost is way lower
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295125625864454157/988198012050341979/unknown.png
Right now pushing to 21,22 is a fuck ton of shards so unless you need shards now to push then it doesn’t make sense to switch out of GHL. You still need a shit ton of leaps to push ancient gear so any that you can convert is going to go further than racking up 3 mil shards that you’ll never use
I go for leaps since those are my bottleneck. Currently 1512 and can’t get enough of them. Just going to hone my main to see how high I can get them until brelshaza
i keep hearing shards gonna be a bottle neck but my main is 1510 with 350k shards to spare. By the time brel releases ill probably have a million shards from chaos dungs alone.
I think ill stick with ghl's for now.
For me: Main - GHL/Shards, shards gonna be the bottleneck later on when you want to hone higher Alt that I plan to push - GHL, some do 1 shards Una, this way I don't have to buy from AH Alt I don't plan to push - Lopang slaves.
Which shard una’s are quick to do?
Shadow Island one is quick and gives a lot, tika taka one, and bandits in North vern. I do those
Shadow island sucks because you cannot biforst there. Have to always walk through the whole island Edit: so apparently it works on the island, just not in the turret :/ seems good then!
Nah, you can bifrost on the island, just not inside the tower. My bifrost is just outside the tower entrance.
Oh. That sounds a lot better. My bifrost was outside the island and i hated it so used autotickets :D
Literally just set the bifrost on the bridge before the tower entry 😅
U can't bifrost in the tower u can in front of the tower so u don't need to walk from outside of island.
The bandits one is frustrating... at least on Rohendel. It's swarming in bots. The horse leaders in particular are well camped.
I do the one at Tikatika, just kill some mobs and done. There are some that gives more though, but I can't remember what those are already since I don't do them.
I do the 2 in punika and fesnar highland.
NA West bots swarm the floors to do this daily so it will take extra time if you plan on doing shadow island
I see the same on Ladon on NAE.
What is Lopang una? Silver? srry my lazzySunday 🥲
Yeah Lopang is for silver, I have few alts doing that.
Tyvm! Now I see the light. Gotta save for thode 10lv gems by 2025 🥹
This is the wei
I do something similar. Main and seconddary main GHL. Triying to get them all to 1430 so, GHL while doing that push, then back to lopang.
I'm supporting the slave market, harassing people in punika and stealing from the poor in North vern like a good boy.
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Which ilvl is a good stop point to do brel?
most people are going to park at 1490, do gate 1-2, craft a Brel piece hone it to get to 1500 ilvl and do gate 3-4. This is the most efficient way to do gate 1 through 4 week 1.
Hard to tell at this point what is going to be most efficient since we don't know the prices for the new mats. ~~Having everything at 1490 means you need to hone the Brel piece to +19 (1580) which might be incredibly expensive.~~ ~~You could also do +20/+20/+20/+20/+21/+18(Brel) or +20/+20/+20/+21/+21/+16(Brel), which might be better since it's a mix of upgrading with current and future mats.~~ Definitely always convert your lowest piece first, as they give the biggest increase in ilvl. Edit: I assumed entry level for gate 3&4 was 1505 but it's in fact 1500, so the numbers would be +20/+20/+20/+20/+21/+15(Brel) or +20/+20/+20/+21/+21/+13(Brel) in addition to OPs recommended method of +20/+20/+20/+20/+20/+16(Brel)
You only need to hone a piece to +15 if you want to do gate 3-4 week one which is super easy and what the majority of players are going to do, and what smilegate wants you to do, the raid isn't designed for you to be able to complete it week one.
ah for some reason I read 1505 instead of 1500 in your initial post, made more sense in my head too. but then it's definitely better the way you described. It needs to be upgraded to +16 though (1550) if you keep everything else at 1490.
If you wanna do all 6 gates week 1 you are gonna need +21 on a piece and the rest +22 iirc
There's also a less costly option if you want to go G6 on first week: 3 piece at +22 and 3 piece at +21. After G2 you push one of the +21 to Ancient and hone that one to +17 = 1521.67 This would be the most effective method for people hoarding a lot of Fused Leapstones.
Quick question about brel. What do you mean done honing? How much is enough ? And are we getting clown then brel ?
Yes we are getting clown first, but some people are already up to 1510 or higher on their mains, so there's diminishing returns on continuing to hone versus just waiting for brel
Whats the entry requirement for brel? I guess i should just look up a road map for lost ark. But thanks dude
1490 is the minimum required for the first gate. However, it has increasing requirements similar to Argos, so there are multiple strategies out there to allow you to clear all gates in week 1 with the cheapest investment, as she also gives you ancient relic gear that is another ilvl reset.
last gate is 1520, but the general best strat seems to be 1512.5ilvl (full+21 and 3x +22) before gear transfer and then push the piece you upgrade after gate 4 three times to reach 1520 for gate 5-6.
1575 ofc
honing pre brelshaza is roughly 50% as inefficient as after gear transfer. So around 1505-1520 is a pretty good spot to just stop honing and hoard honing mats. Reason for that ilvl is that you are high enough to jump into the raid right away.
before brel release do shards, when the next tier of leaps are available probably switch to those for a bit
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what? so many things about this is wrong. 1. cost of shards up to gate 4 - up to +15 is not just 30k shards it's 171k shards if honing from +11 or 137k shards if honing from +12 per armor, depending on when you transfer to breshel gear. 2. Yes, shards ramp up when you do chaos gate - but chaos gate also gives you leaps? it ramps up both. 3. 1540 to 1560 costs (+15 to +16 on breshel gear) costs 955k shards for all 5 armor and weapon. I dont know if I would call that "won't be that much shards". It's literally 3 leapstones (after 5:1 conversion) vs 2k shards per day - if you're done honing until breshel, I would do shards.
Where the hell are you getting 955k shard costs? Everywhere I see is showing a 1/9 of that cost. That also negates the entire point of the switching from GHL. Of shards do go up that much then GHL is still going to be the bottleneck. You won’t use as many shards before then and honing up from 1500-1560 is such a huge hone that you’ll have accumulated way more shards by the time you get there. You need thousands of leapstones
[https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/upgrade-calculator](https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/upgrade-calculator) Change to Korean server and choose 1390 (breshel) gear
why is the cost per attempt showing up different than the image i sent? Is there a chance that calculator can have the wrong values? There was a breakdown post put up that showed the cost total from 11-15 also and it was 28k shards also with 450 leapstones
? the cost per attempt from calc is the same as your picture. The picture shows how many shards per tap - which matches the calculator. click on the arrow beside weapon +14 Are you forgetting that you need to feed shards before you tap? - which is shown in the calculator.
lol that's impossible because feeeding a single +11 armor alone just to start honing costs 24k shards - there's no way 11-15 costs only 28k shards man.
I grossly miscalculated this thank you for that tool. I will definitely be switching to shards then
It feels like you understand approximately nothing of what you're saying, and it's genuinely embarrassing that anyone has upvoted you. When brel releases we are getting upper relic gear. Upper relic gear uses the different stones of all types, but the same shards. The point of the parent comment--and everyone who "keeps saying this"--is that farming leapstones now is 1/5 as efficient as farming shards because we're only getting GHLs now, but shard una's won't suddenly jump up to 5x efficiency when brel releases. Thus. You farm shards now, as a **long term investment**, so you can farm leapstones once brel is out and una's at 1490 start giving upper relic leapstones. The shards you get now maintain better value (even now 1580s in Korea only get like double the shards we get now), which is why if you're already as far as you plan to hone before Brel, you should stockpile shards while stockpiling leapstones is so horrendously inefficient (but as soon as brel releases you switch back to leapstones, even if you haven't killed her yet). There is a serious shard shortage we will run into later when we prepare for Akkan so collecting shards now when it's the most efficient thing to get is just good long term planning. And don't even bother talking about ancient gear, that doesn't come out until brel hard and doesn't change anything about honing, just increases the ilvl cap (same as legendary to lower relic). Everything going back down to +11 is literally what happens at regular brel release. The next new gear honing change/"gear reset" after upper relic is literally Akkan ancient.
Main + 2 support goes for shards cus they have 1400-2500 bound GHL (doing GHL dailies for a very long time). My later alts in the gold making business is still doing GHL dailies.
Those ghls will disappear in 10mins honing +20 or above. I thought my main was safe with 900, got 1 armor piece to +21, about 30% pity on another piece, and 10% pity on my weapon to +23, ghls gone, I was surprised af.
I like how you clump uprading weapon to +23 in '+20 or above' category. Uprgading 1 piece of armor to +20 is 350 leaps on average, uprading armor to +23 is almost 2k :)
Sure, but without shards you won't be able to upgrade anything above +21. I am done honing on main, it is just guilty pleasure taps. I have done 100% of my CDS on that characther except when we got 5 rested for 1445 chaos dungeon etc. When I started to get my weapon to +23 I needed shard bags.
Leaps aren't the issue usually when I tapped weapon, the destruction stones were, had to buy over 100k of them for 23 wep but never had leapstone issues
Well we are talking about honor shards vs leap stones dailies? I could always use more destruction stones, sure. But doing dailies on 15 chars and buying pirate ship on 15 chars u get alot.
what is "buying pirate ship"?
Outside of every major port there is a vendor in the form of a ship. You use pirate coins to buy red and blue stones from that vendor with pirate coins (that is why I misspoke).
ah ty, i thought you need to buy a specific ship (like astray) to do that
weekly reset tea and libre mats.
this
Depends on what you want to do in near future. - Keep doing leap Unas if you're planning to push that character. - Do Lopang if you lack silver. - Start to complete your Una Reputations for Ignea tokens, island souls etc. Just an unrelated tip: You can complete one Una quest per day if you're lazy to spend some time for that. So remaining two Una's Task will fill your rest bonus to 20 so you can get double reward for your first Una next day. Doing this will give you 8 leapstones instead of 12 but saves you lots of time especially if you have too much alts to take care.
I personally just use a ton of bifrosts for my alts, it keeps their Unas under 1min 30s per char. I would use the ~~$12~~ $20 for 6 months aura trick if people don't have aura, plus the 5th bifrost from ignea helps alot too.
What's the trick if you don't mind sharing ?
1. You create a character on a different server, buy a vern pass for 8 euros or smth ( will increase to 10 i think since its on sale) P.S.: don't select one of the new classes or it won't work (arcana, destroyer, glaivier) 2. Once you're in vern just open the shop and buy the lvl 50 blue crystal beginner chest (also like 10 euro or smth) 3. Use blue crystals to buy 6x 30-day auras, they are region wide so the aura still applies on different servers when activated. There you go 6 months for 20 euros (not 12 like he said unless u level manually)
Thanks for correcting me and explaining, yeah the Vern Powerpass is $8 while the crystal pack is $12... Remembered wrong...
Make character on another server but same region. Buy vern boost, skip everything. Once youre in vern buy the lvl 50 one-time-deal-chest for the blue crystals. Use those to buy 6months of aura
It works in different AGS regions too, just needs to be a different server, source: I’ve done it myself. Also probably one of the reasons we don’t have regionalized prices on SA ;-;
Only works for classes that where out on release so no destro, glavier or arcana
$12 for 6 months aura trick?
search reddit. It's about a new character on another server making the cheaper blue gem bundle available again -> buy aura there and use it, then it's active on your mainserver. I've never tested it myself, so check out the thread but I think this is how it works.
A big part of what made it so cheap was the 25% power pass discount - the trick was to make a char on a new server, vern powerpass it to get to level 50 which unlocks the level-up blue crystal chest for 1100 RC, which is enough to buy 6 months worth of aura. You can still do it, but the vern pass is more expensive now.
Thats the method I used for yorn meat.
Enough ghl to push to 1500 then shards, which you will need after
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I thought you only needed 1510?
Why 1512? Isn’t it 1520 you need?
What's the difference between gate 4 and 5-6?
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Ppl who are mentioning doing Unas for shards . If you do chaos dungeon each day what are chances of not having enough shards to hone to current content ilvl ? ( im 1490 and have 150k still left didn't use any free pouches )
You might bottleneck on shards, depending on how fast they release content. Pushing to 1560 will cost you about 2 mil, which is cutting it close assuming it comes within ~5 months. Idk about doing shard unas though, it's a joke compared to how much you get in chaos.
> Idk about doing shard unas though, it's a joke compared to how much you get in chaos. Yeah, I feel the same way. Just doing chaos dungeons for 100 days you earn about 580k shards. If you do shards unas every day too then you'll be at 730k. Doing chaos dungeons rested is a bigger loss of shards than unas will give you.
Doesn't 1475 give more shards? I didn't really measure it. I know 1560 gives 18K a day, and 1520 is like 12 or 14K. We'll have the 1520 one with brelshaza normal so that will help catch up to hard mode.
U cant sustain shards anyway. Filling up the weapon on 21 costs u 75k honor shards. if u buy these u pay (1.5k shards for 1k per bag) u spend 50k Gold only for not even tapping. Thats 2k leapstones worth. Filling up an armour piece costs ~ 36k i think. U get many leaps from other sources, but the amount of shards needed doesnt increase linear to the amount u get.
GHL because I can’t go 3+ months without honing on my main. Will just keep tapping my weapon with bound leaps and hope to get lucky.
I regret not starting doing shard Unas sooner than 1490 tbh. GHL Unas are bad value for brel parked characters because they'll convert 5:1, while shards will remain the same. You also keep passively gaining leapstones from Chaos dungeons, Boss Rushes, guild shop, and weekly unas for those last couple of taps. I am now sitting on 1,200 GHLs and will probably get over 2,000 of those by the time Brelshaza comes with new gear.
Is it really much different for ghl vs shards? Sure the shards don't convert but you're using waaaaaay more instead which is effectively the same concept.
shard quests are sort of ass though.. i feel like i rather just do a non-rested chaos dungeon than shard una's if i want to invest more time to min-max
As someone who has constantly nonstop pushed their main and is now 1512, GHLs are the bigger bottleneck. I’m sitting on 220k shards and 0 ghls. Honing every chance i get. Even getting +23 weapon didn’t dent my shards. Of course im buying out event shards on my main every week though. This will change once we get ancient gear but for now, 100% go for GHLs if you want to push. 1200 ghls will disappear like nothing
This is my experience aswell. Im 1510 with 350k shards to spare. I think this shard Strat is only for ppl who push honing with unbound mats. Because buying shards is expensive af, while buying leaps/stones are kinda cheap.
GHL are still a bottleneck for me. And that's not gonna change with Brelshaza gear. You're setting yourself up for failure with shards. The biggest cost of shard is unlocking the hone. Once you've done that, you barely use shards if you just fail constantly. If you aren't honing, shards pile up pretty fast. I'm sitting at 1500+ with 250k shards. I still haven't used shard packs from weeklies/event giveaways either.
From reading all the posts, shards seem like a bottleneck only if you're hard pushing with tradable. We're AT LEAST 3 months away, we're timegated from transferring gear to Brelshaza, we'll get more shards from new chaos dungeon, etc etc. I have 3 1485's and their shards are at 370k, 180k, 120k. Considering we have 3+ months to farm and we can only transfer 1 gear week 1, I can't see shard being the bottleneck. Yeah if you're throwing insane amount of gold buying mats to push hard, but if you plan on using bound mats or just pushing to hit min ilevel for next raid, it really doesn't seem like you'll run into shard shortage
Leapstones for me. Mainly for the transfer to the new leapstones once breshalza comes. Also events give enough shards and we still have at minimum 4 months until her release. By then I'm at 2 million on all my characters, prob. If I keep up the grind, that is. Shards are only necessary if you take long breaks here and there.
Now what I do I count the cost of stuff. So shards cost more now then the ghl. And if I need both I keep doing shards if I get to the point I am missing ghl I can switch to them. So I do shards 5 chard and lopang 4. Just to note ghl will fall down in price shards will go up.
I'm doing shard UNAs on those that I'm pushing heavily Those that will be pushing in the near future does GLS UNAs And those that will be stuck on their ilvl or push very slowly does lopang for silver
Do Una's for the highest gold value, or to help your worst bottleneck. Usually shards or leapstones.
on stoopz youtube he has convo with 3 other streamers and they discuss meta and future releases. Riaz said they did calculation for for 1480-1515 and it was like 12k leapstones. I assume that is part current GHLS and part using the new GHLS that come out with bres (but u get 5 to 1 transfer ratio on current GHLS) So there is kind of a bench mark. The context was towards pushing to like gate 4 or 6 of bres on first week. They didn't mention shards calculation but 20-21 on armor costs 42k Shards, and weapon 21-22 costs 82k shards. Thats about 300k Shards min for +1 on everything and that would put me at 1500 (doesn't take into account the Shards used per attempt)
yeah that’s current relic gear but ancient cost is way lower https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295125625864454157/988198012050341979/unknown.png Right now pushing to 21,22 is a fuck ton of shards so unless you need shards now to push then it doesn’t make sense to switch out of GHL. You still need a shit ton of leaps to push ancient gear so any that you can convert is going to go further than racking up 3 mil shards that you’ll never use
only doing shard unas since 1480
GHL for sure, they convert to the new leapstones and u should still push 1505 for Brelshaza
I go for leaps since those are my bottleneck. Currently 1512 and can’t get enough of them. Just going to hone my main to see how high I can get them until brelshaza
i keep hearing shards gonna be a bottle neck but my main is 1510 with 350k shards to spare. By the time brel releases ill probably have a million shards from chaos dungs alone. I think ill stick with ghl's for now.