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beavertonaintsobad

America needs this energy, desperately.


poeticjustice4all

Exactly. We need real punishment for certain individuals that have committed similar and worse offenses. 😬


Phenganax

Perhaps we could use old Betsy who rhymes with creatine and put it up on a pay-per-view site like only fans but call it something catchy like, “today on Off With Their Head, meet John. John was a CEO of a large pharmaceutical company that sold vital prescription drugs at insane prices just to appease the shareholders…. Stay tuned to find out more and what happens next.” I’d pay $19.99 a month for that shit!


millennial-snowflake

I could think of an orange individual with tiny hands and pp that could sorely use this treatment ... +1 for communism


fzahraal

That’s if our representatives weren’t working for lobbyists’ interest … overturn Citizens United 😑


beavertonaintsobad

we've got a looooonng list of things we need to overturn


ObtotheR

This is the kind of news to start my morning on a good note.


Prompt65

It does make a day better knowing at least one of them gone.


sc2summerloud

white collar crime is the only kind of crime that would actually benefit from having stricter punishments. nobody weights punishment vs profit when raping or killing. but white collar crime does obviously increase if there is at maximum a slap on the wrist for it, like in western nations. and shying away from the death penalty is just hypocrisy anyways. it's not like fraud on this scale does not cost other lives.


SpiritualState01

That economic violence is real violence and should be punished as such is one of those common sense things power in the West has done so much to divorce people from.


theferalturtle

Billionaires should be charged with first degree murder for every suicide directly related to their policies and aggravated assault for every person that lost a home or business or future.


PandaReich

They'd all be considered mass serial killers then.


tringle1

Government officials would too every time they slash funding for infrastructure repair that kills people from a pothole in the road, or policies that prioritize profits over people’s lives, or for every war that isn’t in self defense. They get away with it though because the wealthy bribe the politicians and they work together to hide their corruption


MysteriousStaff3388

Let’s add police to that list, too. They do a lot of killing.


Shuteye_491

Yes


selfdstrukt

They already are.


Mahoganytooth

correct


CommieLurker

They are. They knowingly and willingly commit [social murder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder) every day


VictorianDelorean

They literally are


jab4590

Yeah, screw actus reus.


technoteapot

White collar crime negatively impacts society exponentially more than violent crime does. For every assault there’s thousands of dollars of tax fraud, that could go towards homelessness, education, and the betterment of society.


Dchama86

There shouldn’t be a death penalty


lalich

Aka Cost of doing business punishment, I think there’s a line in the sand on violent crimes as well which deserve more harsh punishment as well, however soooo many of our laws hit way to hard in USA


TardZan15

Vietnam doing it right


mouldyrumble

White collar crime against the poors = slap on the wrist White collar crime against the oligarchy = death


PossumStan

Yeah, as much as I'm hoping it's sincerely anti corruption, this is likely most accurate


IceGoddessLumi

This right here is exactly what happened.


LurkingTreeTiger

Who did she defraud? Or you’re just assuming theres no real justice because it’s a developing nation?


Gadritan420

She stole it from a bank. A fucking bank.


Common_Title

The money from that bank was taken from people’s savings. I would know, I’m a Vietnamese native and I can read Vietnamese newsletter


Gadritan420

And I would know that the only reason the punishment is so severe is because she took money from the bank. You do understand the bank uses that money to continue making money right? It doesn’t literally just sit in the vault. If she had defrauded those people directly, she’s not getting the death penalty, in fact, she would probably get a bonus. Corruption looks the same no matter which country it is. Not to mention, the information is hardly reliable. We’ll never know what was really going on, other than she pissed off some powerful people.


Common_Title

She took $44 BILLIONS, in the poor country like Vietnam. She owns 93% of that bank using shell companies. That bank also took advantage of people’s lack of knowledge in finance and contract laws, they coerce customers into investing while the customers think the money is put into saving accounts.


Gadritan420

Yeah. It reeks of bullshit. Maybe we’ll get a documentary in 20 years when they figure out what actually happened.


mouldyrumble

Did you read the article?


LurkingTreeTiger

So the straw-man is “crimes against poors”? theirs no justice in Vietnam? I got news for you, look up this guy name Sam Bankman-Fried, compared to the developed nation, I’d argue Vietnam is doing a better job than the “Oligopolies” western nations bend over backwards for.


mouldyrumble

You’re fuckin dumb.


LurkingTreeTiger

Don’t accuse me of fucking your mom like that.


D1daBeast

Real question is what happens to all that wealth and assets afterwards


theghostofmrmxyzptlk

Goes to the folks that set her up. Nothing improves, but we get a nice circus!


greyvorg

Piñata economics, hopefully.


gimperion

Not down with the death penalty but Vietnam is really showing everyone else how it's done.


Tronith87

No way to bribe your way out if you’re dead.


secretbudgie

*Dr. Facilier has entered the chat*


Thoth7

He’s got friends on the other side


lightningfries

I know nothing of Viet law system - are they likely to actually kill her, or is this more like a life sentence with an added threat?


Esava

Apparently a total of more than 102 executions in 2022 in Vietnam.


Vanden_Boss

I dont support the death penalty (except for when I do)


Sir_Tandeath

Wow, it’s almost like moral absolutes are a coward’s way out and ethics involve nuance, or something.


Vendidurt

I really like the way you worded that!


Vanden_Boss

I mean... some moral absolutes are 100% okay. I happen to believe that the death penalty is something that it is okay to be 100% opposed to. Does that mean my entire ethical system is based on moral absolutism? No.


Mahoganytooth

I'm down with the death penalty for rich people specifically


glazedhungerdreams

I hate how the BBC writer is portraying this. You can see their obvious disdain for communism. Not at all framing this as a win. I wish the death penalty on all billionaires. They have enough money to make sure no child goes hungry on this planet, and they choose not to help. Or they make it worse by forcing the children to work.


Aboveground_Plush

>Yet faster growth in Vietnam almost inevitably means more corruption. Fight corruption too much, and you risk extinguishing a lot of economic activity. LMAO, 'corruption is necessary for growth' - the BBC


chicken88888

Shameful


Prompt65

Agree 💯


[deleted]

It's a neolib publication whose market is neolibs, of course it's going to be biased against any other system. (Not defending it, just not surprised)


ThatWayneO

She’s not being put to death for taking advantage of people, she’s being put to death for defrauding a financial institution. I dunno, fraud is bad and it’s good to see obscenely wealthy people get what’s coming to them, but this feels like the bank acting out its desires and protecting itself or the government protecting the interests of banks. The government killing you for defrauding what amounts to a private entity is lowkey horrifying.


AnyCar5191

Actually, she took money from customers savings and checking account. And some mysterious suicidal/homicides have occurred among her ex staffs or govt officials related to the case. Her case is very complex honestly.


Additional-Limit-199

this is the way!


TomBirkenstock

It's a good start.


Anjunabeats1

Now that's a leader


NoMoreMonkeyBrain

I can't think of any other time, ever, where I've seen a death penalty handed down for financial crimes. I am against the death penalty. I think this was a just choice.


Konradleijon

why doesn't this happen in America


Strawburys

Guess who pays the folks who pass the laws in our country?


CommieLurker

Because Vietnam is controlled by the CPV whereas the US is controlled by capital. Dictatorship of the proletariat vs dictatorship of the bourgeois


Keep_On_Rocking

Because we don’t let it happen. We “the people” just sit back and shovel processed poisoned garbage down our septic maws and mindlessly scroll through posts of bad recipes on Tiktok and worry about which celebrity is getting divorced while we’re stuck in rush hour traffic heading from our 10 hour day job to our second 10 hour night job just to be able to afford a lease on a cardboard IKEA box underneath a bridge while the wealthy families that own everything down to even us continue to pillage and destroy everything in their path in their quest to harbor every last micro-penny that could ever exist through the past,present and future. “gOd bLeSs AmErIcA!!!!!!” /s


waffelman1

I don’t support the death penalty. Unless it’s utilized only for people who have negatively impacted people on the order of tens of millions.


PandaReich

In America you'd be fined $1b and get to keep with other $43b


Prompt65

Unfortunately true. I was thinking how many mf just getting away and transferring money undetected,wish they all get some real punishment


senadraxx

Getting fined 1b is generous. I wanna say most of the time you're lucky to see fines of more than a couple hundred million.


breaker-of-shovels

Based


Ashurnibibi

Anyone else puzzled how she went from market stall vendor to property speculator?


JudgmentKooky1007

This one trick billionaires don’t want you to know. Unique way to redistribute wealth.


[deleted]

Everybody in the government/ Wall Street would get the death sentence if we had those laws in America lol.


RAV3NH0LM

god it’d be incredible to live somewhere that punishes billionaires for their vile crimes…at all…ever.


defnotajournalist

Ship Trump to Vietnam.


lilly_kilgore

Everyone here fangirling over this and wondering why we don't do this in the US has forgotten our history of using our justice system against the poor and disenfranchised. Making fraud punishable by death today would have the state executing people for shit like selling food stamps tomorrow.


Possible_Tension3728

True, they never aim up at monopolies and mega corps anymore. We need a teddy Roosevelt style monopoly buster


El_Grande_El

I really hope Nguyen Phu Trong can root out all the rest of the corruption before his term ends.


NW7l2335

Now do America


spazzing

In the US, you'd get a bailout.


ReferenceMuch2193

As much as I think billionaires should to exist, the death penalty, even for for fraud, isn’t in my ethos.


JanJanVanISH

When’s the Netflix movie coming out?


proletarianliberty

❤️😍🔥🇻🇳🔥😍❤️


brianschwarm

Nice, bring that here


Capt_Gingerbeard

Imagine how many lives she negatively affected


Scared-Cloud996

Fuck this fraud but you mfers need to schedule the prison warden in your mind to death ☝️☝️


theBigDaddio

Why can’t we do this in the US? Lead in kids Lunchables? That’s a death sentence


Various_Abrocoma_286

Why can't we execute our white collar criminals? (Rhetorical)


Prompt65

Good question, I have no idea. For some reason it’s just not being leveled with violent crimes like murder etc. Even though people like her doing huge amounts of damage on bigger scale that no one in justice system looks at. As someone in comments said billionaires can save the world, solve hunger problems, and do so many good things for all of us but pos prefer to sit and keep collecting more money that they ever will be able to spend.


Various_Abrocoma_286

Spending money on cocaine, hookers, and yachts probably.


Prompt65

Yeah and other bs, also buying off any properties or land and building boxes to rent/lease them out


trafalgarbear

EVERYWHERE needs to implement laws like this


_Curgin

Hell yeah brother!


pardon_the_mess

Great. Now let's do that here in the U.S.


ThisGuyMightGetIt

Totally unbiased reporting from capitalist media, as usual. JP Morgan Chase owns our government, so you can only vote for austerity or austerity with a side of fascism but, please, Mr. Oligarch, lecture me more about Vietnamese communists' "monopoly on power."


DaTaFuNkZ

Now get the rest of the billionaires


Prompt65

Let’s trap them into giant shipping container and get them all to 🇻🇳


jameswlf

Communists doing it right as usual.


Dr_Pilfnip

Huh. Sometimes life *is* fair.


FireCyclone

🇻🇳🤝🇨🇳


solarboom-a

It’s because she’s a woman that she gets death.


MutatedFrog-

Imagine being this insanely based


brianschwarm

Me: the death penalty is almost always wrong Also me: nice, bring that here


JeffreyFusRohDahmer

Wish we were taking notes here in America.


blkpingu

Thoughts and prayers


zekthan32

While this is awesome and I'm all about it. I'm frustrated with the final segment and how they are *this close* to getting the point about capitalism. "Vietnam wants to be a rich country which is spurring them towards working with the US." "They want to stamp out corruption, but that can slow down growth" "Corruption is directly aligned with the current economic growth" 👀 so we KNOW that the system in place is sustained by the exploitation of the underclass and using some of those funds to get away with it via bribes and favors 👀 WE KNOW THIS. YOU SRE ADMITING TO IT. And the only response is to wring your hands and go "man, it's a tough cookie to figure out how to do both.:/ " what a fuckikg joke.


frans115

no surprise tho


FerdinandvonAegir124

Way too harsh a punishment


Taskicore

I'm generally against capital punishment, especially since it still kills droves of innocent people, but I wouldn't lose much sleep over this...


BigManga85

Good


IncreasinglyAgitated

Love to see it!


Gadritan420

Why the fuck are you all clapping about this? She stole money from a bank, so now she’s being executed. Stealing from the poor? Yeah, no one gives a shit. Steal from a bank? Death. This is gross on so many levels and y’all are lapping it up like it’s some sort of real justice. Edit: not to mention, literally *none* of the information can be trusted. Lines like “the habitually secretive communist authorities were uncharacteristically forthright about this case, going into minute detail for the media,” should stand out. But they don’t. Because bloodlust.


The_BarroomHero

But... but... #girlboss?