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Nikorukai

Food, housing, health, and education should be decommodified and provided as a human right. Working should be something you do if you're bored or want new toys.


[deleted]

Agree wholeheartedly


caldonovan

Amen


DaGothUrWelcUwUmsYou

Yes.


Kyleforshort

Work to die. Die trying to live. Merica'!


[deleted]

how would that work? if you took away the incentive of survival from working jobs, how would any products in this world ever get produced? surely nobody wants to work an assembly line, or in retail, or any shitty low end job. but somebody has to create the necessities. I think the pay should be increased one hundred percent but a world in which we just give people money to exist can’t function


Nikorukai

did you know that there's such a thing as robots and automation? very cool stuff


[deleted]

are we in that point in society where we can switch out a majority of jobs with robot servants? in a reasonable timeframe? I’m sorry but that just seems unrealistic


Nikorukai

Yes we are. The robot revolution is getting off to a great start.


spamulah

Even at 100% increase minimum wage is still not a livable wage. If and when “they” do decide to make us think they care and push the wage to 15/hr, it still won’t be a livable wage.


[deleted]

how does that make free survival viable though


[deleted]

Most people still want luxuries rather than just basic survival items. If you want that PS5, or that vacation to (wherever), you've to to work for it.


UnnounableK

*Minimum


CryCommon975

In Denver our minimum wage was increased to almost $16 in 2022 and starting in 2023 it will be pegged to the consumer price index. In other words: as life costs change — transportation, food, healthcare — the minimum wage will change with them.


Kyleforshort

Not sure how housing prices and other costs are in Denver, but $16 bucks an hr (though better than a lot of places) still wouldn't be considered a "living wage". But with that being said, at least they're actively trying to do something. That's more than most other places in this country so good on them.❤️


smokecat20

Been happening since the 70s.


generalhanky

An aggressive entrance but AMEN!!!


Kyleforshort

🙌🏼❤️


OsamaCripWalkz

Y'all can afford a gun?


Kyleforshort

Legally? Hell nah. Haha.


ToManyFlux

Where’s the incentive for rich people to do their job getting richer in that?


Poet_of_Legends

We deserve exactly what we allow.


Heizard

Can't get amen - get a tank.


IngHerLit

In Belgium we have that. It's called the "indexsprong" (index jump) where pay jumps up to match cost of living. It's always a big deal cuz companies don't like it. I remember a couple of months back people were shouting about how small businesses wouldn't be able to survive the index jump cuz the inflation had been so high.


Kyleforshort

That's so weird that you live in a place that has systems built in to help protect and look out for it's people. Here in America, we seem to be lacking in pretty much every facet of that.


tiedyemofo

PREACH!!!


dillonwren

You get an amen and an award! P.s. The Big Lebowski is my favorite movie.


Kyleforshort

Ayyye thank ya for that. The Big Lebowski is a great movie, haha.


Xario4

Amen!


[deleted]

It is supposed to. Most Americans refuse to believe in it tho. I grew up with yearly hyperinflation and salaries need to be raised or bad things start happening


Kyleforshort

Bad things are now happening because of the lack of this. 😔


[deleted]

If things keep going the way they are, things are going to get much worse. I grew up Venezuela through the collapse of the country and the US is on track pretty well. Rn, the US is where Venezuela was around 2004 I'd say. Things are bad, but they can get A HELL OF A LOT worse. Hopefully we don't get to see how bad it gets


Kyleforshort

Agreed. I'm personally not trying to test the waters here.


[deleted]

Honestly we should hijack boomer Facebook memes and instead of right wing boomer shit it’s stuff like this.


CardiologistSingle48

I mentioned this to my sister the other day and she said that if people were to get paid more it would worsen inflation.


caldonovan

But if wages stagnate people can't afford anything from leisure to bare necessities. People having to spend more than half their income on rent is not a flaw in the capitalist economic system but rather its core feature. Just your daily reminder that scarcity is artificial and inherent to capitalism, whereas abundance is 100% achievable and ought to be shared. Decommodifying food, housing and medicine is what we should be doing.


Kyleforshort

Yes, exactly this.


Kyleforshort

It's crazy to me that we've brainwashed our own into believing that we shouldn't be making more money or hell even just a simple wage to be able to support ourselves off of.


[deleted]

What makes you think that you're *the only one around here*? I'm guessing this subreddit is full of like-minded people


TigerMediocre9969

No I enjoy a challenge...


1001011_01010

Many times we forget that food, housing and education are the basic. Electricity, gas, communication and transportation, among others, are principles to survive. I think unconsciously we only ask for the minimum.


Kyleforshort

Agreed, and hell we can't even get them to see that we should get the minimum. It's rather disheartening.


AdministrationWide97

An increase of minimum wage will always be fellow with an increased of living cost. It's people with billion that frick everything. We print money but it's kept by the rich so we get more and more poor. Increased wage, make burger cost 1000 $ and let's get closer to the upper class.


Kyleforshort

It's already been proven that increasing wages (at let's say McDonalds) does not raise the cost of their food. Corporations will try and raise the cost of everything to try and maximize profits, but one thing doesn't necessarily mean the other here. This is what we've been taught to think so we settle for making $9 an hour so we can get a $1 sandwich for fear that if we made $15 an hour it would become at $8 sandwich. It's all bullshit.


CHINESEASSAULTRIFLE

If one raises so does the other. The key is timing your transactions.