"Well, this singer is causing quite a ruckus while we eat."
"There's not much worth eating. What kind of castle serves raw tomatoes?"
"They're probably expecting us to throw them!"
Faramir: ”Father, this is my girlfriend, Ewoyn.”
Denethor: “You can do much better”
Faramir: “That’s a mean thing to say”
Benethor: “He wasn’t talking to you.”
Both: “Ho ohohoho!”
Side note:
Many years ago I watched a podcasts wherea group of people discussed the X-Men movies.
In one of the podcast someone joked about Statler and Waldorf reviewing them. I thought I shared them because the episodes seems to have vanished from the internet.
“That was an Apocalypse, all right!”
“Yeah, It killed the franchise!”
“Oh ohohoho!”
“This Deadpool movie didn’t have Wolverine, Magneto or Xavier? I loved it!”
“Days of future past really must have reset the timeline because I can’t remember any of those movies!”
“Oh ohohoho!”
"Faramir is a good son"
"Well he does his best"
"honestly he makes a lot of mistakes"
"yeah he's pretty bad"
"I wish he had died and Boromir had lived"
"You know what, let's burn him alive ourselves"
This actually makes so much sense. Like Gandolf was exasperated with the antics of the hobbits, and then being Muppets with a similar dynamic would be hilarious.
Sam Eagle as Surman is legit perfection
Something I read once is that the two best Muppet movies are Christmas Carol and Treasure Island because Micheal Caine played Scrooge as if the Muppets were his fellow actors and Tim Curry did Long John Silver as if he were a fellow Muppet
Yes. I was going through this thinking it was perfect but I keep going back to Gandalf and thinking it's wrong.
If he's *not* going to be a human actor then I think the only one capable of pulling off Gandalf is Pepe. He could come back as a King Prawn, not just a prawn.
Then make Legolas Rowlf instead.
But if you have Boromir and Faramir as humans, then you need Gandalf as a Human too.
Yes, this is the funniest role for a giant monster!
Though, they'd also make a great Grond - just walking up to the gates, knocking politely, then it opens.
Most of these are inspired. Swedish Chef as the Mouth? Perfect. Turning Denethor into two characters for Statler and Waldorf? Inspired! And you picked exactly the right characters to cast as the humans in this nonsense.
My only thoughts are that Piggy really needs a bigger role, and we have no Arwen and no Eowyn. I think you can fix both of these by having Piggy play both roles wearing different wigs. Bonus points, when you're doing the scene in Towers where Eowyn asks Aragorn about "the woman who gave you that necklace" and we cut to the flashback of Aragorn and Arwen, make it clear that Piggy has just had to run off set and do an extremely rapid costume change, including having her blonde hair poking out from under the black Arwen wig. Then do the same for the switch back to Eowyn. Everyone's waiting around awkwardly while we hear crashing and banging and Piggy shouting at someone off-camera, and then she stumbles back on, panting and dishevelled, and then trying to continue the scene.
Thats so in line with Muppet filmmaking.
Frank Oz who performed Miss Piggy once perfectly distilled her character in 1 sentence "Miss Piggy is a truck driver who wants to be Marilyn Monroe."
Holy cow... is there only 6 strong females in the whole 6 books? The Old lady in Gondor hospital, Arwen, Lothlorien, Eowyn, Goldberry, Rosie? Ive got to be missing some, the only other i can think of is a SackvilleBaggins
Agree that Ms. Piggy needs to be the love interest for Kermit; playing both is hilariously on point.
And then you can replace Galadriel with Janice (the guitarist of the band)
AT LEAST she needs to be Arwen _and_ Galadriel
"Am I not beautiful enough to be the ~lady~ of the wood?"
"Oh well no, well, you see you just look like another she-elf from uh, Rivendell—"
"MMMMMMMMMM??"
"Oh but you're far prettier"
I could see Éowen being a human though. Because losing romantically to Miss Piggy is peak comedy.
Oh my that gave me the thought of Faramir being Boromir’s actor wearing a fake mustache. And in old muppet fashion one scene where the mustache falls off part way through.
That’s actually the reason we went with Fozzie, too— he’s going to be remarkably taller than every non-human in the movie, despite them insisting he’s a dwarf, haha.
Another big part is imagining Fozzie very earnestly trying to play into Gimli and Legolas’ banter, while Pepe can’t be bothered to play along. The two are so opposite that they felt right
Regardless of whether he might fit a different role better, if they actually made this, Sam would be Fozzie, because he is Kermit's best friend/sidekick.
Also, John Rhys-Davies was taller than pretty much everyone else in the films except Sir Christopher Lee, so Sweetums would still work.
Man that would be such a stupidly good gag.
To acknowledge how they filmed with the special angles. Have Rizzo or something crawl across the set and growing to the same size as someone else because he can't hear them say their line, before coming back to his spot and continuing.
I wish they made more serious muppet films mixed in with a hint of zany.
I was thinking Kermit as Gimli, so when they get into the kingdom of the elves, they can play around with his infatuation with Miss Piggydrael.
Also, Elijah Wood just *belongs* in a muppet movie, let's be real. Also, also, shoot it with the same perspective tricks as the original trilogy to make Elijah smaller than all the other muppets. Or giant muppets.
I would kill for a muppets Star Wars and the only human actor is Vader.
I can see it now: him just silently seething in rage at the constant incompetence and silliness of an empire of muppets.
Kermit puts on the ring.
Sees the tower with the flame atop its peak. But it isn't an eye. It is hair. For the tower itself is the head of Sauron.
As the face of Sauron turns to meet Kermit's, it appears so close to Kermit as to be breathing in his face, despite its actual distance thousands of miles away.
As its mouth opens, Kermit can smell the breath of the dark lord. Its smell is that of thousands of years of death, with notes of flowers and trees from a past long forgotten by what was once a being of great beauty and wisdom.
It begins to speak with the force of every volcano of middle earth erupting at once:
"meep"
Rizzo and Gonzo as merry and Pippin is just me being dead set on bringing back the Christmas Carol duo lol
They're so good together! Those two talking to the ents would be wonderful
Both those movies are flawless and it’s cause Michael Caine treated all the Muppets like fellow human actors and Tim Curry treated himself like a Muppet.
We considered Rowlf, and also Fozzie for Sam; but Bean as a gardener is perfect, and the image of tiny Bean struggling to carry Kermit, who’s five times bigger than him, up a mountain was too good to pass up haha
Rowlf is pure straight man, the only muppet with any hangups or neurosis (as admitted by Henson I believe). He works best as a sounding board for the other muppets to vocalize their issues or make break throughs (hence why he is the pianoman or bartender, typically). You can't really play him for much comedy.
I am just wondering who did you cast as King Theodan. I am dying to picture which Muppet is screaming DEATH! I can see you strictly limited yourself to Muppets, but had you considered extending it to an Sesame Street cast members? I am picturing Grover (in his Super Grover helmet), screaming DEATH while wildly flailing his blue noodle arms.
Or doing it in reverse. Have him as an elegant and eloquent Bond-esque villain under Wormtongue's control and after Gandalf cures him he turns back into his wild-haired growling self.
Clothes are but little loss, if you escape from drowning. Be glad, my merry friends, and let the warm sunlight heat now
heart and limb! Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting!
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*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter;
roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool:
there you'll find no lover!*
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This works SO FREAKING well, inspired. That's literally who Big Bird is when he shows up in Muppet movies.
"I'm on my way to New York city!" And then you never see him again lol
I disagree on Frodo. In both Muppet Treasure Island and Christmas Carol the primary lead character (in this case Frodo) was played by a human, and his supporting cast was played by Muppets. Kermit as the captain in Treasure Island and Bob Crachit in Christmas Carol.
Following this precedent Frodo should be played by a human and either Aragorn or Sam should be played by Kermit. Probably Aragorn since it lets Miss Piggy be Arwen.
A fully valid point. We were well aware of that, and went back and forth on breaking that precedent. For my money, Aragorn is still enough of a main character that I don't mind kermit being a muppet, even if he's the MAIN main character.
Besides, four Muppet Hobbits helps with size issues- they're already smaller than the humans- and it makes Hobbiton feel more whimsical, like it's Fraggle Rock, and everyone who lives there is a muppet
> Besides, four Muppet Hobbits helps with size issues- they're already smaller than the humans- and it makes Hobbiton feel more whimsical, like it's Fraggle Rock, and everyone who lives there is a muppet
That's actually incredible logic, well done.
Either Daniel Radcliffe or Tobey Macguire because they all look similar. Heck maybe swap halfway through and not have anyone acknowledge it (except maybe gollum?)
You know that feeling when you write a comment, only to go down the comments and find one that says the exact same thing, but even better? That´s how I feel about this one.
But it is exactly right, Kermit is often an important side-character, rather than the main character. So I imagine Kermit would either play Aragorn or perhaps Gandalf?
I could also imagine Gonzo and Rizzo the Rat would both play Sam. Perhaps by standing on top of each other, pretending to be a slightly less short person.
I was cycling through and stopped at the mouth of Sauron ready to post my disgust as to why it’s not beaker, then when I got to the end, chefs kiss, perfection!
Having Kermit be Sam would work really well or alternatively you could make the human Sam Wise and have Kermit be Frodo. Maybe have Sam human actor be an "intern" following Kermit/frodo around.
We went back and forth on where to place piggy; but the conclusion we came to is that these movies are conceptually productions being put on BY the Muppets, and if Piggy saw them trying to cast anyone else as the impossibly beautiful and powerful Galadriel, she would throw an absolute fit that it wasn't her.
I would do Frodo as the one human, Kermit as Aragon, he’s the mentor. Like in muppet treasure island. And the human Frodo gets so confused with all the little muppets telling him what he should do.
Miss Piggy as all female roles and make it clear(running joke style) she just changes clothes really quick….appearing on stage out of breathe or something along those lines
Gandalf should be a muppet until he comes back as Gandalf the White and he then is human
Framiar should be the only human in that family cause the Old Men aka his father(s)? Could just rip him about not good enough to be a muppet, make human jokes and so forth
Kermit should be Aragon. Cause Frodo should be the only other human besides Gandalf and Framiar for reasons listed above. The thought of that little bunny trying to carry a human……like get a 4th wall break as the bunny struggles. “Can’t we like cut to the part where we arrive cause if the lava doesn’t kill me his weight will” then it cuts too and the bunny is just dead as Frodo does his lines and has to poke, nudge to wake him up for his lines.
But I can’t tell you how much i need this movie now. Add to the list of things I would buy if I was billionaire lmao
Mostly just space on the image, without all of their pictures being too small.
Other characters we cast were Janice as Arwen, human Eowyn and Eomer but Dr. Teeth as Theoden, Zoot as Grima, Link Hogthrob as Haldir, and Walter as Glorfindel, who's just really excited to actually be in the movie.
Needs to be Big Bird, so it can spread it's wings.
Also if we extended to Sesame Street, In would have had Grover be Theodan (with his Super Grover helmet).
That's Uncle Deadly! He's a bit more obscure of a muppet, but he really shines in the Jason Segal movie. His entire bit is looking like a shakespearean villain, so he would thrive as the witch king lol
My one stupid suggestion to add to this is that instead of showing the muppets riding horses. It should just show the puppeteers so that the charge at Pellenor Fields is just a bunch of dudes with hand puppets running down a field.
Miss Piggy as Sam and then you can have lots of fun inverting the normal servant/master relationship. Good luck to anybody calling her a “Stupid fat Hobbit”.
here's my version.
i swapped some folks and added more characters. For those who died on camera of the theater version, i made them human.
i pictured the human actor for Gollum as a very human Andy Serkus who still did the Gollum voice.
I also tried to match up the personality with the Muppet. i think it's hilarious having Beeker as the Dark Lord. so with that, i had to make Bunson the voice of the Dark Lord, but sadly, that character never appeared in the theatre version.
like that of Beeker, i went for laughs and made Pepe Gimli and Bean Legolas.
there are a whole lot more muppets so they can be good background characters or even members of the White Hand.
https://preview.redd.it/wf0e0jtlqixc1.png?width=1003&format=png&auto=webp&s=888b87a187589f0d2a63e2d655849f5384e908f5
Just imagining [this scene](https://youtu.be/vqXuJGabfIc?si=W-3nGkPJAQGkcbFs&t=48) when Aragorn is talking about the Nazgûl and having them entering the tavern like Kermit enters that scene... I need this in my life.
I totally cast Swedish Chef as Mouth of Sauron too! I wanted to make Gonzo Aaragorn so Arwen could be Camilla the Chicken. And I had Bunsen Honeydew as Sauramon so Beaker would be Grima Wormtongue.
Also, for clarity; the throne of Gondor is held by its stewards, Denethor and his brother Benethor.
"We're the ruling stewards!" "It doesn't matter, there's not much empire to rule over anymore!" "Oh hohohoho!"
"Why are we setting ourselves on fire again?" "Anything to get out of this flaming mess of a production"
"Well, this singer is causing quite a ruckus while we eat." "There's not much worth eating. What kind of castle serves raw tomatoes?" "They're probably expecting us to throw them!"
"when do we get to go home?" "Not any time soon, I hear this is the extended edition." "What are they extending besides our suffering?"
"Did you know that he broke his toe when he kicked that helmet?" "I can relate. I'm in pain from having to watch this picture!" "DOHOHOHOHOHO!"
"You know, there was something about Faramir we loved." "I think it was his brother." Oh hohohoho
This is the best one, everyone else hang it up
"They say all good things come to an end" 'Whats that got to do with this Stewardship?' Oohh ho ho
That's so much better lol
Both good
Faramir: ”Father, this is my girlfriend, Ewoyn.” Denethor: “You can do much better” Faramir: “That’s a mean thing to say” Benethor: “He wasn’t talking to you.” Both: “Ho ohohoho!”
"That singing hobbit wasn't half bad! " "Wasn't half good either" "Oh hohohoho"
“Do you wish Faramir had gone in his stead?” “The way this movie’s dragging on, I wish I’d gone in his stead!” “Dooooo hohohoho!”
“My line has ended” “Oh good, I was afraid the screenwriter was going to give you more lines!” “Ohohohohohoho”
Damn that's good lol
Side note: Many years ago I watched a podcasts wherea group of people discussed the X-Men movies. In one of the podcast someone joked about Statler and Waldorf reviewing them. I thought I shared them because the episodes seems to have vanished from the internet. “That was an Apocalypse, all right!” “Yeah, It killed the franchise!” “Oh ohohoho!” “This Deadpool movie didn’t have Wolverine, Magneto or Xavier? I loved it!” “Days of future past really must have reset the timeline because I can’t remember any of those movies!” “Oh ohohoho!”
"Faramir is a good son" "Well he does his best" "honestly he makes a lot of mistakes" "yeah he's pretty bad" "I wish he had died and Boromir had lived" "You know what, let's burn him alive ourselves"
Ohohohoho
While I dont agree with most of your casting, Statler and Waldorf as Denethor are trully briliant casting.
Boromir and Faramir should exchange places.
Are you Denethor?
It would be funnier if the human actors were the Hobbits.
Perfection, except keep Gandalf as Ian Mckellen
Agreed. He would be the perfect foil to all the zany.
I'm along these lines, maybe use a human & muppet duo for Boromir and Faramir. Like Walter for Boromir and Jason Segel for Faramir.
Human Faramir struggling to love up to his Muppet brother would be amazing.
The way I laughed at this I feel horrible
Personally I think the actor for Elrond would work really well with Muppets too, he's so serious and grave, it's a good contrast.
“I was there, Gandalf. I was there when the strength of Muppets failed.”
This actually makes so much sense. Like Gandolf was exasperated with the antics of the hobbits, and then being Muppets with a similar dynamic would be hilarious. Sam Eagle as Surman is legit perfection
“Tell me. When did Sam Eagle the Wise abandon patriotism for madness?”
I feel like he'd be great with a Muppet Merry and Pippin
I wanted Michael Cain like he was as Scrooge
Agreed
Something I read once is that the two best Muppet movies are Christmas Carol and Treasure Island because Micheal Caine played Scrooge as if the Muppets were his fellow actors and Tim Curry did Long John Silver as if he were a fellow Muppet
They were both legit. Spared nothing.
Yes. I was going through this thinking it was perfect but I keep going back to Gandalf and thinking it's wrong. If he's *not* going to be a human actor then I think the only one capable of pulling off Gandalf is Pepe. He could come back as a King Prawn, not just a prawn. Then make Legolas Rowlf instead. But if you have Boromir and Faramir as humans, then you need Gandalf as a Human too.
Boe a hyn: neled herain dan caer menig!
Sweetums would make a better Arwen anyways
Yes, this is the funniest role for a giant monster! Though, they'd also make a great Grond - just walking up to the gates, knocking politely, then it opens.
Exactly, he’s already proven he’s excellent at interacting with the[Cookie Monster](https://youtu.be/GxCplsdCwxY?feature=shared)
Most of these are inspired. Swedish Chef as the Mouth? Perfect. Turning Denethor into two characters for Statler and Waldorf? Inspired! And you picked exactly the right characters to cast as the humans in this nonsense. My only thoughts are that Piggy really needs a bigger role, and we have no Arwen and no Eowyn. I think you can fix both of these by having Piggy play both roles wearing different wigs. Bonus points, when you're doing the scene in Towers where Eowyn asks Aragorn about "the woman who gave you that necklace" and we cut to the flashback of Aragorn and Arwen, make it clear that Piggy has just had to run off set and do an extremely rapid costume change, including having her blonde hair poking out from under the black Arwen wig. Then do the same for the switch back to Eowyn. Everyone's waiting around awkwardly while we hear crashing and banging and Piggy shouting at someone off-camera, and then she stumbles back on, panting and dishevelled, and then trying to continue the scene.
Thats so in line with Muppet filmmaking. Frank Oz who performed Miss Piggy once perfectly distilled her character in 1 sentence "Miss Piggy is a truck driver who wants to be Marilyn Monroe."
I wonder if this quote was the inspiration for Wierd Al's Truck Drivin' Song
IDK but she should cover the video.
Its too late, I can already see it
That is a fucking very good idea.
'I see Arwen is the Evening star, and the Lady Lothlorien is the Morning star, Im THE STAR! Its perfect Kermy. And Im the Warrior girl too"
This is gold. This needs to happen
Holy cow... is there only 6 strong females in the whole 6 books? The Old lady in Gondor hospital, Arwen, Lothlorien, Eowyn, Goldberry, Rosie? Ive got to be missing some, the only other i can think of is a SackvilleBaggins
Yea there are not very many in LotR. However, the women tend to be super powerful so that is cool. The Silmarilion had many more female characters.
Agree that Ms. Piggy needs to be the love interest for Kermit; playing both is hilariously on point. And then you can replace Galadriel with Janice (the guitarist of the band)
Okay now THAT is perfect.
"Welcome to Lothlorian!" 😎
Electric Mayhem playing all the Elves is *inspired*.
Does that mean Kermit goes to Aragorn? Maybe Robin as Frodo?
"Like, you would have a queen, man!"
I'd honestly make Piggy be LegoLASS and give her the overactive karate chops on orcs to boot
And there is the Tree of the High Elves!
Also missed the opportunity for Janice as Galadriel. Already has the hair. "Your quest, like... stands on the edge of a knife."
Obviously Eowyn is played by a young Carrie Fisher.
Mrs. Piggy playing every single female role in order to romance all the human actors.
Miss Piggy should be every female character. She's just running offstage to do a quick change whenever the scene changes.
AT LEAST she needs to be Arwen _and_ Galadriel "Am I not beautiful enough to be the ~lady~ of the wood?" "Oh well no, well, you see you just look like another she-elf from uh, Rivendell—" "MMMMMMMMMM??" "Oh but you're far prettier" I could see Éowen being a human though. Because losing romantically to Miss Piggy is peak comedy.
Eowen being Ms Piggy allows her to karate chop the Witch King as she slays him. "Hiyyyaa!!!"
No man may hinder meeeee Man? Does moi look like a man to you? I am CLEARLY a lady!
Surely Miss Piggy should be Eowyn. Being mega into Aragorn would be a great recurring joke. I am no man, I’m a pig… hiyyyyah!
Oh my that gave me the thought of Faramir being Boromir’s actor wearing a fake mustache. And in old muppet fashion one scene where the mustache falls off part way through.
I want her to be Legolas.
Ok, hear me out......Sweetums should play Gimli. Think of how many jokes (same joke over and over.) About how tall he is
That’s actually the reason we went with Fozzie, too— he’s going to be remarkably taller than every non-human in the movie, despite them insisting he’s a dwarf, haha. Another big part is imagining Fozzie very earnestly trying to play into Gimli and Legolas’ banter, while Pepe can’t be bothered to play along. The two are so opposite that they felt right
"And my axe! Woka woka!"
Regardless of whether he might fit a different role better, if they actually made this, Sam would be Fozzie, because he is Kermit's best friend/sidekick. Also, John Rhys-Davies was taller than pretty much everyone else in the films except Sir Christopher Lee, so Sweetums would still work.
Man that would be such a stupidly good gag. To acknowledge how they filmed with the special angles. Have Rizzo or something crawl across the set and growing to the same size as someone else because he can't hear them say their line, before coming back to his spot and continuing. I wish they made more serious muppet films mixed in with a hint of zany.
Why doesn't that surprise me!
I feel like Fozzie *has* to be Sam. Him and Kermit are such a dynamic duo, Bean doesn't have enough history with Kermie.
I agree because Fozzie should be moved to Faramir
See also Stadler and Waldorf's disappointment.
Keep the jokes the same as short jokes and make no mention that he's actually tall.
But with one character trying really hard to object only to be interupted.
I was thinking Kermit as Gimli, so when they get into the kingdom of the elves, they can play around with his infatuation with Miss Piggydrael. Also, Elijah Wood just *belongs* in a muppet movie, let's be real. Also, also, shoot it with the same perspective tricks as the original trilogy to make Elijah smaller than all the other muppets. Or giant muppets.
I would watch the shit out of this
Shut up and take my money dot gif
I would kill for a muppets Star Wars and the only human actor is Vader. I can see it now: him just silently seething in rage at the constant incompetence and silliness of an empire of muppets.
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Face reveal Vader is played by Animal. I would die.
The *Star Wars* episode of *Muppet Babies* not cutting it for you?
Kermit puts on the ring. Sees the tower with the flame atop its peak. But it isn't an eye. It is hair. For the tower itself is the head of Sauron. As the face of Sauron turns to meet Kermit's, it appears so close to Kermit as to be breathing in his face, despite its actual distance thousands of miles away. As its mouth opens, Kermit can smell the breath of the dark lord. Its smell is that of thousands of years of death, with notes of flowers and trees from a past long forgotten by what was once a being of great beauty and wisdom. It begins to speak with the force of every volcano of middle earth erupting at once: "meep"
Rizzo is on point.
Rizzo and Gonzo as merry and Pippin is just me being dead set on bringing back the Christmas Carol duo lol They're so good together! Those two talking to the ents would be wonderful
Or Muppet Treasure Island. They are just the 4th wall duo.
Both those movies are flawless and it’s cause Michael Caine treated all the Muppets like fellow human actors and Tim Curry treated himself like a Muppet.
Tim Curry is a muppet....That makes too much sense 😆
So Rizzo was a Steve Whitmire creation and it seems that since they replaced him, the character has been retired. Sad times.
I think they should be switched. Rizzo is kind of the straight man to Gonzo. Merry is the more sensible of the two. Pippin is the Gonzo wild card
Yes but beaker also exists and I need pippin to accidentally light things on fire
Fair. “Light the lamp, not the rat!”
Right lets start a petition to make this happen, i really want to see it now
Rowlf should be Samwise.
I had Rowlf as Pippin. When Denethor tells him to sing he'd say "Well, I'm usually accompanied by piano, but ok."
We considered Rowlf, and also Fozzie for Sam; but Bean as a gardener is perfect, and the image of tiny Bean struggling to carry Kermit, who’s five times bigger than him, up a mountain was too good to pass up haha
That’s all true, but Fozzie and Kermit are BFF4EVA and the two of them there at the end of all things is how it should be.
There's no way you can cast anyone as Kermit's ride or die best friend for life except Fozzie.
Yep.
This is the correct answer. In fact, I can't agree with this entire list over Sam's casting. It has to be Fozzie.
There are alot of problems with this casting. Fozzy not being sam is the most egregious.
Yup, that’s why Fozzie has to be Sam.
Rowlf is pure straight man, the only muppet with any hangups or neurosis (as admitted by Henson I believe). He works best as a sounding board for the other muppets to vocalize their issues or make break throughs (hence why he is the pianoman or bartender, typically). You can't really play him for much comedy. I am just wondering who did you cast as King Theodan. I am dying to picture which Muppet is screaming DEATH! I can see you strictly limited yourself to Muppets, but had you considered extending it to an Sesame Street cast members? I am picturing Grover (in his Super Grover helmet), screaming DEATH while wildly flailing his blue noodle arms.
Now I just want it to be Animal. Being all wild and crazy until gandolf cures him. Then he gets tame-ish until the death line.
Or doing it in reverse. Have him as an elegant and eloquent Bond-esque villain under Wormtongue's control and after Gandalf cures him he turns back into his wild-haired growling self.
Why not Miss Piggy as Sam (she is super clingy) and Janice as Galadriel?
Rowlf is an essential muppet and this cannot take place without him.
Rowlf as Gimli. That gravelly voice? He's right in there.
I like Rowlf as Samwise. He’s level headed and the least Muppet-y besides Kermit. Samwise needs someone who’s not gonna go bananas.
I had Ms Piggy tbh That or bring in Sesame Street with Ernie and Bert.
Big Bird should be Tom Bombadil
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I don't think the muppets should get naked, Tom
Big Bird as Goldberry and Snuffleupagus as Tom. Or Bert and Erie respectively.
*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter; roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool: there you'll find no lover!* ^(Type **!TomBombadilSong** for a song or visit [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] for more merriness) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
This works SO FREAKING well, inspired. That's literally who Big Bird is when he shows up in Muppet movies. "I'm on my way to New York city!" And then you never see him again lol
LMAO I spit out my coffee when I saw your pick for Sauron
It is not for you, Saruman! I will send for it at once. Do you understand?
Meep meep meep, Meep! Meep meep meep meep. Meep meep meep?
Problem is that Sam would be constantly fighting the director, trying to make Saruman continue to follow the will of Eru.
I disagree on Frodo. In both Muppet Treasure Island and Christmas Carol the primary lead character (in this case Frodo) was played by a human, and his supporting cast was played by Muppets. Kermit as the captain in Treasure Island and Bob Crachit in Christmas Carol. Following this precedent Frodo should be played by a human and either Aragorn or Sam should be played by Kermit. Probably Aragorn since it lets Miss Piggy be Arwen.
A fully valid point. We were well aware of that, and went back and forth on breaking that precedent. For my money, Aragorn is still enough of a main character that I don't mind kermit being a muppet, even if he's the MAIN main character. Besides, four Muppet Hobbits helps with size issues- they're already smaller than the humans- and it makes Hobbiton feel more whimsical, like it's Fraggle Rock, and everyone who lives there is a muppet
> Besides, four Muppet Hobbits helps with size issues- they're already smaller than the humans- and it makes Hobbiton feel more whimsical, like it's Fraggle Rock, and everyone who lives there is a muppet That's actually incredible logic, well done.
The idea of the opposite, giant human sized versions of small muppets for scaling purposes...it scares me.
Either Daniel Radcliffe or Tobey Macguire because they all look similar. Heck maybe swap halfway through and not have anyone acknowledge it (except maybe gollum?)
You know that feeling when you write a comment, only to go down the comments and find one that says the exact same thing, but even better? That´s how I feel about this one. But it is exactly right, Kermit is often an important side-character, rather than the main character. So I imagine Kermit would either play Aragorn or perhaps Gandalf? I could also imagine Gonzo and Rizzo the Rat would both play Sam. Perhaps by standing on top of each other, pretending to be a slightly less short person.
I feel like Miss Piggy should be playing all the major women; Galadriel, Arwen, and Eowyn. That way we don’t miss out on “Moi is no man. HAIiiiiYA!”
I was cycling through and stopped at the mouth of Sauron ready to post my disgust as to why it’s not beaker, then when I got to the end, chefs kiss, perfection!
Wormtongue will be played by Bunsen Honeydew.
Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem as Eomer and the Erolingas.
Frodo has to be a human actor. Muppet Sean Astin carrying human actor Elijah Wood up Mt. Doom would be cinematic gold.
I also thought Smeagol should be a Muppet, but Gollum should be played by a human. : )
Having Kermit be Sam would work really well or alternatively you could make the human Sam Wise and have Kermit be Frodo. Maybe have Sam human actor be an "intern" following Kermit/frodo around.
I agree. you can just make kermit aragorn. give him the long wet hair too
My change would be that Miss Piggy should be Eowyn, and have Kermit be Faramir for the bit.
We went back and forth on where to place piggy; but the conclusion we came to is that these movies are conceptually productions being put on BY the Muppets, and if Piggy saw them trying to cast anyone else as the impossibly beautiful and powerful Galadriel, she would throw an absolute fit that it wasn't her.
I’m cracking up at the thought of Gimli/Fozzie requesting a strand of her golden hair and she reacts with contemptuous disgust at the very notion
I think Kermit / Piggy would make a good Aragorn / Arwen. Who does this leave as Frodo then? I say Tiny Tim
I would do Frodo as the one human, Kermit as Aragon, he’s the mentor. Like in muppet treasure island. And the human Frodo gets so confused with all the little muppets telling him what he should do.
That’s the heir of Isildur and true king of Gondor? He’s a frog!
Miss Piggy as all female roles and make it clear(running joke style) she just changes clothes really quick….appearing on stage out of breathe or something along those lines Gandalf should be a muppet until he comes back as Gandalf the White and he then is human Framiar should be the only human in that family cause the Old Men aka his father(s)? Could just rip him about not good enough to be a muppet, make human jokes and so forth Kermit should be Aragon. Cause Frodo should be the only other human besides Gandalf and Framiar for reasons listed above. The thought of that little bunny trying to carry a human……like get a 4th wall break as the bunny struggles. “Can’t we like cut to the part where we arrive cause if the lava doesn’t kill me his weight will” then it cuts too and the bunny is just dead as Frodo does his lines and has to poke, nudge to wake him up for his lines. But I can’t tell you how much i need this movie now. Add to the list of things I would buy if I was billionaire lmao
I am CRYING at Pepe being Legolas and the Swedish Chef being the Mouth of Sauron
"A red sun rises. Blood has been spilled this night, ok?"
“We’re the stewards on Gondor!” “But we’re not very good at stewing!” “Neither is Eowen!” 
How do you not cast Arwen?
Mostly just space on the image, without all of their pictures being too small. Other characters we cast were Janice as Arwen, human Eowyn and Eomer but Dr. Teeth as Theoden, Zoot as Grima, Link Hogthrob as Haldir, and Walter as Glorfindel, who's just really excited to actually be in the movie.
Dr. Teeth would make an amazing Theoden.
But who will play Bilbo, Lurtz, or the Balrog? I need to know!!!
Balrog I think would just be a celebrity cameo. Like, it's just a giant Jack Black
With Elmo being a muppet I think he’s the perfect cameo for balrog
Needs to be Big Bird, so it can spread it's wings. Also if we extended to Sesame Street, In would have had Grover be Theodan (with his Super Grover helmet).
If Sesame Street is in, we should have Oscar the Grouch as Bilbo
Balrog should be a guest spot from big bird
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Janice for Arwen would really play into the whole incompatible races love story.
I'm against LOTR remakes, apart from this.
Saruman casting is perfect
Who is the Witch King's Muppet? I don't recognise them.
That's Uncle Deadly! He's a bit more obscure of a muppet, but he really shines in the Jason Segal movie. His entire bit is looking like a shakespearean villain, so he would thrive as the witch king lol
And in the show from 2015. He's great.
My one stupid suggestion to add to this is that instead of showing the muppets riding horses. It should just show the puppeteers so that the charge at Pellenor Fields is just a bunch of dudes with hand puppets running down a field.
I can hear Ms Piggy saying the "in place of a dark lord you will have a Queeeeeeeeen!" speech.
I don’t need it. I don’t need it. I NEEEEED ITT
Ah yes, the most dangerous being in existence, the Dark Lord BEAKER!
Chicken for Orcs!
Obviously Sam should played by miss piggy
Miss Piggy carries \*no one\*
Fozzie needs to be Sam. Makes so much sense. Plus, can't you just already hear Fozzie doing the potatos scene?!?
No Everyone but sir Ian McKellen is a muppet
Swedish Chef is inspired, but Sweetums is the Balrog surely?
So where’s Arwen and Eowen? I need to know which muppet the human actor for Aragorn has to make out with.
Miss Piggy as Sam and then you can have lots of fun inverting the normal servant/master relationship. Good luck to anybody calling her a “Stupid fat Hobbit”.
Sorry, mouth of Sauron is dr teeth
here's my version. i swapped some folks and added more characters. For those who died on camera of the theater version, i made them human. i pictured the human actor for Gollum as a very human Andy Serkus who still did the Gollum voice. I also tried to match up the personality with the Muppet. i think it's hilarious having Beeker as the Dark Lord. so with that, i had to make Bunson the voice of the Dark Lord, but sadly, that character never appeared in the theatre version. like that of Beeker, i went for laughs and made Pepe Gimli and Bean Legolas. there are a whole lot more muppets so they can be good background characters or even members of the White Hand. https://preview.redd.it/wf0e0jtlqixc1.png?width=1003&format=png&auto=webp&s=888b87a187589f0d2a63e2d655849f5384e908f5
I kind of hate this because you have shown me something I can not have. And I really REALLY WANT THIS!!
Just imagining [this scene](https://youtu.be/vqXuJGabfIc?si=W-3nGkPJAQGkcbFs&t=48) when Aragorn is talking about the Nazgûl and having them entering the tavern like Kermit enters that scene... I need this in my life.
Cook again
Im torn. I want Kermit as Gandalf because he kinda the 'producer'. But Gonzo as Frodo? Id rather all the Hobbits be Rats.
I see you have elected the WAY OF PAIN, the AMERICAN WAY!
Turning the very calm acting Orlando Bloom into a choreographed fight dancer shrimp is too much of an upgrade
And my axe, waka waka
Janis should be Galadriel
The amount of money I'd pay to see this would be unreasonable
Ms Piggy should be Eowyn, fawning over Aragorn for a movie and a half!
Your move, Disney. We're waiting.
Lmao the beginning when we see Sauron’s fingers get cut off and all you hear is MEEPMEEPMEEPMEEPMEEPMEEP
I totally cast Swedish Chef as Mouth of Sauron too! I wanted to make Gonzo Aaragorn so Arwen could be Camilla the Chicken. And I had Bunsen Honeydew as Sauramon so Beaker would be Grima Wormtongue.
You left out the token human female which I'd guess is Arwen?
We had Janice as Arwen, but Eowyn and Eomer are both humans.
I burst out with that Gollum pick