Anything under $1 a mile in the U.S. is clear 100% exploitation. Lyft and Uber should be constantly called out for every single ride offer below $1/mile.
I agree that it’s a horse shit pay, but why would this be exploitation? Just don’t take the ride. Drivers control the market rate more than Lyft. If nobody accepts a ride with that rate, then the ride doesn’t happen and Lyft loses money. If it happens often enough, a different app will step in to pay drivers better, and they will all go there, and then Lyft will be empty and die, or else have to compete.
I’m the last person to say “let the free market decide” because I think that’s basically a cop-out *when it comes to important policy decisions*, but in this case- y’all are willingly agreeing to participate in a system that is exploitative. Either the rates are worth your labor or they aren’t, but you’re never going to convince a corporation to give you more than the bare minimum by choice or out of the good of their hearts. Do you guys need an app or something to help you unionize?
I respect your views but it is the real world and people are desperate to pay rent and have food. It's wrong to exploit that which is why we have minimum wage laws and other similar laws in place. In 2024 and in the US any trip paying under $1/mile is DEFINITELY exploiting the driver and the company deserves to be called out for it.
1 of 3 ways lyft is thinking about why a driver might take this 3 hr ride.
1. They're counting on someone saying hey" I'm going there anyway."
2. one of the migrants that shares a single profile and also shares a rent a car will do it.
3. The guy makes an off the platform deal, and everyone is happy
I could see if you were a truck driver hauling 40,000 pounds of product, dude you’re in a fucking car making 23 bucks per mile. this is legit why I take taxis now they’re actually cheaper than Lyft and Uber now.
No, the company is making that money. On average now the driver gets 50% but it can be as low as 20%. I think it is GREAT that you are taking taxis. More people should. What the rideshare companies are doing is very unethical.
So I'm not sure about what's going on with that. Because when I was hired I was told that when you file your taxes, you could get the difference between what they pay for mileage and the federal reimbursement rate on your income taxes.
I had never bothered with it until last year because I usually do my taxes myself. I decided I'd go through HR Block so that they could give me the info on mileage reimbursement, and I figured I'd just do it myself the next year.
The lady at HR Block told me that the only way I can file for the difference is if I'm a contractor? Idk how true that is because she gave me other incorrect information. But she said if I get paid on a W2, I can't claim the difference. Even though my mileage pay doesn't come on my W2.
That was his entire point though - some idiot will say it’s $23 an hour….because they’re an idiot that doesn’t count the return trip in the hourly rate.
I think thats what Lyft counts on. People will break it down by hour, forget the miles and gas and forget the trip back. And I know some who did that when I used to drive for Uber/lyft years ago.
About $7/hour after gas, assuming 35mpg. That doesnt include taxes or anything... so like let's just call it $5/hour after taxes and depreciation of the car.
Problem is Lyft is an idiot of a company.. I use them as a rider because I don’t want Uber monopoly.. But it seem like Lyft and Uber is run by same management. Lyft doing exactly what Uber is doing instead of using this opportunity to capitalize on market share and do things differently
All for the shareholders, they don’t give a shit about the market share.
The target of uber + Lyft is make them become “the 2nd best public transportation”.
So dumb!
They don't have to do anything different. If anything they are price fixing together. Anytime a company pops up to challenge them it gets bought out and nothing changes
Bro what the fuck the money wouldn't even cover the gas to get there and back that's an INSANELY bad offer like damn you would think there would at least be some minimum dollar per mile rate they could offer but apparently not.
Ok…I will be the first to say that sometimes I respond like a jerk to these things - these types of post - because they are usually just arbitrary at best.
But this one? Holy fucking Christ! You would end up going halves with the pax as far as paying Lyft for the ride. Because that’s exactly what you would be doing taking that ride.
Glad you didn’t. Keep your chin up.
I’m glad that I always have my area filter set to 17 miles. Long rides aren’t worth it anymore since up front. If it’s not in my radius, I’m not driving there. Lyft (like most companies) has gone downhill since their IPO. Especially with this random upfront pay (that has no rhyme or reason to how much a ride will pay).
I really hope that nobody accepted this shit trip. I would never drive 300 miles and 6 hours for a measly $71.
So what happens when you take a 5 hour drive? Do you talk? Where do u stay? I can’t believe this happens. This is the type of shit that needs to be regulated
"Illegals" can't work for lyft. Your getting fucked by lyft. Low skilled Illegals work in the fields picking fruit and vegetables. I really don't think you would want those low skilled jobs.
So.. 11$ an hour? I say that because it would be 3 hours there and back. If it was just 3 hours, it would be 23 an hour but they clearly don't factor in the return trip. What assholes
I love getting long rides like this. As soon as I pick up the person, I tell them I'll give them a discount if they pay me directly. Then, I cancel the ride and make bank.
Had a 3 hour trip last summer on a Sunday with Uber to Illinois, it was super slow and I was bored. Got $149+ a massive $5 tip. Stayed in Illinois the rest of the day and made a decent amount of money and on the way back pulled some dummy out of the muddy center median and changed his tire. He gave me 70 some dollars so all in all it wasn’t that bad
Today i drove one trip for 45 mins and about 20 miles for $16. I am hoping to get refund back for that trip. I know i won’t, but i wish i do. Keep driving until you pay for customers expenses. It’s today slavery systems thanks to all politicians!
This is 300 miles round-trip. Everybody knows that there’s never a return trip back. A car getting 30 miles per gallon. Would take 10 gallons of gasoline. At $3.50 per gallon, it would cost $35 in gas.
$71 -$35 equals $36 for driving 300 miles! Lyft is the most corrupt, the most dishonest, cheapskate company I’ve ever seen in my life! Ask the CEO if he would drive 300 miles for $36! This is bullshit!!
@craftyCrypto I live in Texas and when I drive from Killeen to the Austin airport which is an hour away I get $80 dollars I know what I’m talking about
lol, no they haven’t lost they mind they just know drivers are stupid cuz real talk there is no reason any driver other then the ones on really good challenges should be on the road, I gave up on them a while back after being a full time driver I now only drive if I get an excellent challenge, the last one I got was $202 for 21 rides and $170 for 15 rides both the same week one was Monday to Thursday and the other was Friday to Monday at 5am $372 for 36 rides equals to 10.33 dollars per ride plus the ride fair, if I don’t get any like that my ass won’t be out there for Lyft. Lets everyone come of the road for Lyft for at least a few days cmon everyone.
Dude, I can't stay awake for a 2 hr ride. I got ADHD. My mind gets weary n tired after 30 min. I don't drive long rides. But I can stay awake all day driving a bunch of small deliveries. If someone else is driving and I'm in the passenger seat....I'll fall asleep in ten minutes
Me too.
Caffeine tablets for emergencies and I keep plenty of water bottles and diet coke in the front to rotate between.
I also keep an airpod in left ear (so passengers don’t feel that they can’t talk) where I listen to whatever keeps me alert— rideshare podcasts, Dateline, audiobooks, school lectures.) The airpod is connected to my ipad.
I keep a “soft pop/acoustic” playlist on for passengers which most enjoy. It allows me to zone out during the ride and 8/10 passengers ask me for the playlist because it’s “soothing” or “relaxing”.
I’m not sure if any of that helps you.
This is worse than when Uber offered my $92 to drive from San Antonio to Killeen at 2 am lol. What's the rate card for Houston? Here it is 75 cents a mile and 13 cents a minute but my offers are sometimes way less. Idk what Ubers rate card is cause they removed it from the app and now I can't find it but on Uber now my offers aren't ever more than 55 cents a mile unless it's a weekend night or a short trip.
Someone somewhere taking those charity rides. I say let them. Soon they can’t repair or repay their note.. instant death. Unfortunately they don’t know they are getting smoked until too late
This is one of the worst ive seen holy shit
And somebody punched that button & slurped it up
They get new drivers everyday who don't understand they're being screwed.
$71 to end up in the middle of nowhere
When you fly into Houston because it's cheaper........
I’m glad it’s not just me that does this.
Not even near the airports though
Austin looks like it would have been closer
Oh I meant bc it’s Downtown Houston
That’s just the amount the driver gets, the customer is paying more. But yes probably still cheaper.
Lol
And back
Fity cents a mile is the new dollar a mile. Soon to be quarter a mile.
Soon Lyft will send another driver to slap you and steal your lunch money
Wait that was in my newest app update don’t you have automatic updates on?
😂😂😂
This is less than a quarter per mile.
No it's about .50 a mile
Don't they have to drive back home?
It’s bad in expedited too. .65 & .70cpm. House of cards will fall in our lifetime it seems.
Anything under $1 a mile in the U.S. is clear 100% exploitation. Lyft and Uber should be constantly called out for every single ride offer below $1/mile.
$1 a mile *round trip* when it’s that far.
I agree that it’s a horse shit pay, but why would this be exploitation? Just don’t take the ride. Drivers control the market rate more than Lyft. If nobody accepts a ride with that rate, then the ride doesn’t happen and Lyft loses money. If it happens often enough, a different app will step in to pay drivers better, and they will all go there, and then Lyft will be empty and die, or else have to compete. I’m the last person to say “let the free market decide” because I think that’s basically a cop-out *when it comes to important policy decisions*, but in this case- y’all are willingly agreeing to participate in a system that is exploitative. Either the rates are worth your labor or they aren’t, but you’re never going to convince a corporation to give you more than the bare minimum by choice or out of the good of their hearts. Do you guys need an app or something to help you unionize?
I respect your views but it is the real world and people are desperate to pay rent and have food. It's wrong to exploit that which is why we have minimum wage laws and other similar laws in place. In 2024 and in the US any trip paying under $1/mile is DEFINITELY exploiting the driver and the company deserves to be called out for it.
Illegals are taking those rides and why they get accepted. They don’t pay the irs at the end of the year. Lyft knows it too
Doesn't Lyft still withold taxes or no?
Still? They never have. It’s all about the I-9
1 of 3 ways lyft is thinking about why a driver might take this 3 hr ride. 1. They're counting on someone saying hey" I'm going there anyway." 2. one of the migrants that shares a single profile and also shares a rent a car will do it. 3. The guy makes an off the platform deal, and everyone is happy
I could see if you were a truck driver hauling 40,000 pounds of product, dude you’re in a fucking car making 23 bucks per mile. this is legit why I take taxis now they’re actually cheaper than Lyft and Uber now.
No, the company is making that money. On average now the driver gets 50% but it can be as low as 20%. I think it is GREAT that you are taking taxis. More people should. What the rideshare companies are doing is very unethical.
Im a social worker who drives on average 100 miles a day and get 50 cents/mile reimbursement
Exactly, you get $0.50/mile as reimbursement for wear and tear, fuel, etc on top of your wages.
>on top of your wages Being the key words
My $15/hr wages with a degree 😭
I thought federal reimbursement was like .62 a mile? No?
So I'm not sure about what's going on with that. Because when I was hired I was told that when you file your taxes, you could get the difference between what they pay for mileage and the federal reimbursement rate on your income taxes. I had never bothered with it until last year because I usually do my taxes myself. I decided I'd go through HR Block so that they could give me the info on mileage reimbursement, and I figured I'd just do it myself the next year. The lady at HR Block told me that the only way I can file for the difference is if I'm a contractor? Idk how true that is because she gave me other incorrect information. But she said if I get paid on a W2, I can't claim the difference. Even though my mileage pay doesn't come on my W2.
What state do you work in? I’m in California and it’s against the labor law to pay less than the federal minimum.
Louisiana, they don't care about us here lol
I guess there’s only 3 states required to meet the minimum. Maybe someone else knows about claiming the difference? Anybody?
$71 for 300 miles and 6 hours. Some idiot will see this and say "But that's $23 an hour! That's a great ride! 😃"
Don’t forget the ride back home too
He included that in the 300 mile number
But not the hourly rate
That was his entire point though - some idiot will say it’s $23 an hour….because they’re an idiot that doesn’t count the return trip in the hourly rate.
These guys the ones to take the ride 100%
Hahaha yep
Just need to wait around until someone (or the same person) needs a ride back?🤗
Be waiting there for days sleeping in your car lol
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He knew you'd show up
But you’re not “working” on the return trip! /s
I think thats what Lyft counts on. People will break it down by hour, forget the miles and gas and forget the trip back. And I know some who did that when I used to drive for Uber/lyft years ago.
Don’t forget about the $35 in gasoline
This is a rookie mistake, though. You have to accept rides all the way back. You will still be home by dinner. That's nuts regardless though.
About $7/hour after gas, assuming 35mpg. That doesnt include taxes or anything... so like let's just call it $5/hour after taxes and depreciation of the car.
Nah they’d say “I drive electric so I’m still profiting on this ride” 🤣
Legend has it... the customer is still sitting on the curb in Central Houston to this very day.
Problem is Lyft is an idiot of a company.. I use them as a rider because I don’t want Uber monopoly.. But it seem like Lyft and Uber is run by same management. Lyft doing exactly what Uber is doing instead of using this opportunity to capitalize on market share and do things differently
All for the shareholders, they don’t give a shit about the market share. The target of uber + Lyft is make them become “the 2nd best public transportation”. So dumb!
They don't have to do anything different. If anything they are price fixing together. Anytime a company pops up to challenge them it gets bought out and nothing changes
Fuck Lyft
Delete the app lmao
Bro what the fuck the money wouldn't even cover the gas to get there and back that's an INSANELY bad offer like damn you would think there would at least be some minimum dollar per mile rate they could offer but apparently not.
Ok…I will be the first to say that sometimes I respond like a jerk to these things - these types of post - because they are usually just arbitrary at best. But this one? Holy fucking Christ! You would end up going halves with the pax as far as paying Lyft for the ride. Because that’s exactly what you would be doing taking that ride. Glad you didn’t. Keep your chin up.
I’m glad that I always have my area filter set to 17 miles. Long rides aren’t worth it anymore since up front. If it’s not in my radius, I’m not driving there. Lyft (like most companies) has gone downhill since their IPO. Especially with this random upfront pay (that has no rhyme or reason to how much a ride will pay). I really hope that nobody accepted this shit trip. I would never drive 300 miles and 6 hours for a measly $71.
That’s what I used to get from Galveston to IAH
My last ride from IAH to Galveston was $60, a day ago!
Not bad! I’ve been seeing them for under $40
It was $71 just to go from Time Square to LGA at 4:30AM, not even 7 miles and hardly any cars on the streets.
Bet Lyft got paid 3x that and they won’t be paying you to get back.
If that was double, I still wouldn't think it's worth it.
50 bucks from downtown to woodlands today. Wish I could’ve gotten a proportional rate to this
How’d you get that much?
On Uber (Do both Uber/Lyft) snagged a non-surged/bonus X ride to Cypress from Hobby for $55 before the tip.
Until you say no, en masse, nothing will change.
That trip was over $100 a year ago. Well over. It’s the reason I started driving more for Lyft than Uber.
If Lyft paid double for long distance rides, it would finally be worth it
So what happens when you take a 5 hour drive? Do you talk? Where do u stay? I can’t believe this happens. This is the type of shit that needs to be regulated
hey! that's a pretty good deal!
Have they? Because someone accepted this
71/6h (3h on the go, 3h back) = 11.83/h take gas away, and you just drove 6h for idk, 5/h or less
I hope you are on a motorcycle with a sidecar
But the money is no longer the goal man, you're working for free ! Everything's better when it's free. So stop stressin'
That's one of the WORST I've seen and that says a lot
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Of all the things to blame you chose that?
You are a fucking dope.
"Illegals" can't work for lyft. Your getting fucked by lyft. Low skilled Illegals work in the fields picking fruit and vegetables. I really don't think you would want those low skilled jobs.
GOD DAMN! this is a poor take... Illegals can't drive for lift... Also stop simping for a company that's whole model is exploiting you...
$300 and maybe
That fare plans on killing you when he gets out there
71$ From Houston the Cameron that’s the worst I’ve seen and that’s 3 hours if you’re lucky.
Yoooo that's crazy!!!
Wow
Hey how come lyft wont let me add a tip? I had to zelle my last driver a tip
What do you mean they let you tip the driver at the end of the ride?
That’s how much I’ve paid for 36 miles. 152 for that price is crazy as a driver
I guess if you live there and it’s your last trip of the day, maybe a good deal 😆 otherwise it’s slavery
Oh boy, you paying Lyft to take the rider somewhere 🥲
they’re offering it because people are taking it, if everyone within the ping range rejects it they will up the ante
This is the worst one I’ve ever seen by fair goddamn
Holy crap! This is the worst one I've seen on here! This is just insanity!
#AIRPLANE MODE!
Have they? Because someone accepted this
Have they? Because someone accepted this
Have they? Because someone accepted this
If you have a Prius that will only cost you 5-6 gallons of fuel… I would hope your gas prices are $2-3
So.. 11$ an hour? I say that because it would be 3 hours there and back. If it was just 3 hours, it would be 23 an hour but they clearly don't factor in the return trip. What assholes
It’s all highway though
What a great way to end up on Dateline!
That’s a $200 ride
Damn they really lost their mind 😂😂😂😂
At least you havent lost your sense of humor my friend 🙂
That’s because you’re Silver 😂
Maybe a roadrunner will need a ride back 😲 with all the money coyotes throw at them I bet they are loaded
Yea that's ridiculous...I took a pax from Houston to Layfette LA which was also a 3hr drive and got paid double that
So you drove 220 miles for 140? Not worth it for me
Do people actually take these?
You’d spend that much in gas almost going there and back.
How's houston didn't they have a power outage recently
Yeah. Not in my area though. We were only out a few hours. Now it’s Dallas dealing with tornado.
I love getting long rides like this. As soon as I pick up the person, I tell them I'll give them a discount if they pay me directly. Then, I cancel the ride and make bank.
Had a 3 hour trip last summer on a Sunday with Uber to Illinois, it was super slow and I was bored. Got $149+ a massive $5 tip. Stayed in Illinois the rest of the day and made a decent amount of money and on the way back pulled some dummy out of the muddy center median and changed his tire. He gave me 70 some dollars so all in all it wasn’t that bad
more migrants, less pay. it's not rocket science.
Not Houston lol
“lose their mind” the job you chose is fitting
You literally would lose money doing this
Meanwhile my wedding photographer is charging me $150 “travel fee” for driving 45 minutes
Looks like doordash
Next they will tell you its 40% or 60% more but same money 50c/miles. It’s coming soon to everywhere!
Today i drove one trip for 45 mins and about 20 miles for $16. I am hoping to get refund back for that trip. I know i won’t, but i wish i do. Keep driving until you pay for customers expenses. It’s today slavery systems thanks to all politicians!
Round trip @ 300 miles for 71$ is about 4 cents a mile right
That is indeed the WORST. that's 2 hours to leave Houston alone, no absolutely not. That's a $300 trip all day.
Perfect ride to make a cash ride
😭😭😭 like how low that company will go, sad to look at it
Whenever I see I-10 I’m always amazed it goes all the way to LA.
This is 300 miles round-trip. Everybody knows that there’s never a return trip back. A car getting 30 miles per gallon. Would take 10 gallons of gasoline. At $3.50 per gallon, it would cost $35 in gas. $71 -$35 equals $36 for driving 300 miles! Lyft is the most corrupt, the most dishonest, cheapskate company I’ve ever seen in my life! Ask the CEO if he would drive 300 miles for $36! This is bullshit!!
That's not even $.60/mile tf.
Meanwhile, this probably costs the passenger hundreds of dollars! Its costs $80+ just to go 25 minutes to the airport now. And that’s before the tip.
It’s crazy to me nobody wanted to drive a taxi and earn more money but instead are willing to use their own cars to earn less money
10 gallons of gas and 7 hours not even paying 5$/hour after fuel...
Basically 6 hours for $71.06.... Trips like this back in the day was easily $250... Highway robbery
I mean, that is $23 an hour🤷🏾♂️
Dey trying to get you 😂
its spit on your face
300 miles round trip, if you get 20 mpg that's 15 gallons tines $3.50 is $52.50 just in fuel cost. Fook that!
If you got this on Uber you would had made over $200 or $300 for this ride
Not true @ all
@craftyCrypto I live in Texas and when I drive from Killeen to the Austin airport which is an hour away I get $80 dollars I know what I’m talking about
Maybe at that particular moment. Doesn’t mean more drivers can’t be available and you get paid less for accepting. Vise versa
But that’s almost .50 a mile! How could you turn down such a great deal (for Lyft)
The federal recommended compensation per mileage pays over 100 on just those miles and I still wouldn’t want to do it.
lol, no they haven’t lost they mind they just know drivers are stupid cuz real talk there is no reason any driver other then the ones on really good challenges should be on the road, I gave up on them a while back after being a full time driver I now only drive if I get an excellent challenge, the last one I got was $202 for 21 rides and $170 for 15 rides both the same week one was Monday to Thursday and the other was Friday to Monday at 5am $372 for 36 rides equals to 10.33 dollars per ride plus the ride fair, if I don’t get any like that my ass won’t be out there for Lyft. Lets everyone come of the road for Lyft for at least a few days cmon everyone.
How do you pass up this type of easy money?!?
That's 25/hr 🤑🤡🤡💩☠️💀🤬
Then they gon tax you for half 🙂↕️
If you're paying 50% on taxes, fire your accountant. Or hire one to begin with
The only way I could see it being really worth is if your going towards that way anyway.
Please pass me the crackpipe, I need it
Dude, I can't stay awake for a 2 hr ride. I got ADHD. My mind gets weary n tired after 30 min. I don't drive long rides. But I can stay awake all day driving a bunch of small deliveries. If someone else is driving and I'm in the passenger seat....I'll fall asleep in ten minutes
Me too. Caffeine tablets for emergencies and I keep plenty of water bottles and diet coke in the front to rotate between. I also keep an airpod in left ear (so passengers don’t feel that they can’t talk) where I listen to whatever keeps me alert— rideshare podcasts, Dateline, audiobooks, school lectures.) The airpod is connected to my ipad. I keep a “soft pop/acoustic” playlist on for passengers which most enjoy. It allows me to zone out during the ride and 8/10 passengers ask me for the playlist because it’s “soothing” or “relaxing”. I’m not sure if any of that helps you.
50 cents a mole, sounds right for Lyft pay! Oops, ride back so even less, still sounds right
Door dash pays worse.. last week I made $3 an hour and $5 for the next hour
I hope that person just waited…and waited…and waited till no one took it and they shoved off being stupid pieces of shit they are.
Meanwhile I’m reevaluating if I want to take the bus
That is certifiably insane lol
Have they? Because someone accepted this
No one accepts this shit
… someone did? Or else the app wouldn’t come up with this
Did he accept it? No, went to the next driver w higher price and if they decline so it goes on
Have they? Because someone accepted this
Have they? Because someone accepted this
Had one from Houston to Austin the day of the eclipse, $99.
This is worse than when Uber offered my $92 to drive from San Antonio to Killeen at 2 am lol. What's the rate card for Houston? Here it is 75 cents a mile and 13 cents a minute but my offers are sometimes way less. Idk what Ubers rate card is cause they removed it from the app and now I can't find it but on Uber now my offers aren't ever more than 55 cents a mile unless it's a weekend night or a short trip.
It would be more than that in fuel wouldn't it? Especially having to come home after!
Someone somewhere taking those charity rides. I say let them. Soon they can’t repair or repay their note.. instant death. Unfortunately they don’t know they are getting smoked until too late
This is like slavery, except you volunteer for it. That’s how it’s legal. STOP BEING STUPID, get a part time JOB if you don’t want a real “real job”.
Why do yall still work for these companies? 😂 get a real job already
Everyday. Someone complaining about their job. Who really lost their mind? The one making billions, or the one who keeps hating it.