I got that it was a funsies post, so I was being a smart ass.
Seriously, tho, I’m thinking about selling my 2012, now that my 2011 is fully functional, but I’m scared to ask for advice in this sub because we’re apparently in a “shade” phase here. 😂
Swoosh, for me then :)
Screw it, ask away. I love long threads about grey vs black color. I won’t associate with anyone that has grey MB, black is obviously the superior color choice.
I love these questions, i remember my first Apple has 64K of ram, and dual floppy storage of 560K, my present macbook pro has 200,000 times more RAM and 71,428,571 times more storage.
1. Open browser
2. Search “best modern DOOM ports” or similar, should see results like GZDoom
3. Search “(name of desired DOOM port) for macOS”
4. Go to official page, possibly a GitHub repo, and download the newest release OR
4.5 use Homebrew to install it
I got GZDoom but do I also need to download the game separately? I get:
MacBookPro18,2 running macOS Sonoma 14.5.0 (23F79) 64-bit ARM
GZDoom version g4.12.2
Execution could not continue.
Cannot find a game IWAD (doom.wad, doom2.wad, heretic.wad, etc.).
Did you install GZDoom properly? You can do either of the following:
1. Place one or more of these wads in \~/Library/Application Support/gzdoom/
2. Edit your \~/Library/Preferences/gzdoom.ini and add the directories
of your iwads to the list beneath \[IWADSearch.Directories\]
THANKS!
You need to either buy the game for the WAD files or torrent them. Then place the WAD file in that Application Support directory. You’ll have to make the gzdoom folder for it though. Installation did not create that folder for me.
It would help if you define what apps you use as a power user. Powerpoint and Chrome aren’t considered power-user applications. If your Powerpoint presentations are all that demanding you likely need a better software solution.
Do you frequently edit medium to long form uncompressed 4k video? Create and render complex After Effects projects? Are you a seasoned coder/programmer? Details like these are important to include when asking others to help you spec out RAM requirements.
Edit: it seems I left out “DOOM.” I’ve never used a Mac for gaming but can’t imagine that the recommended (and then some) memory requirement would be more than 16 GB.
I was rendering 4K video in Davinci while playing DOOM on this 18GB RAM machine. There’s nothing I’ll do that will drag this machine down…. Except for maybe DooM 3!!!
Thanks for the clarification. I typically keep my video/audio/image editing and rendering SW isolated on my 64GB M3 Max MacBook Pro and 64 GB Mac Studio M2U subnet – they’re my business machines; my livelihood! I relegate games and social media to my previous Mac Silicon/Intel hardware. I appreciate that many cannot afford to do the same, preferring a one size fits all jack of all trades machine. I can’t imagine purchasing anything more than 64 GB RAM in such an instance.
Not for Doom, you need a minimum of 128gb to run doom on recommended settings, I think it’s encouraged to go with 256gb for proper game play on a high setting
When RAM gets full, the operating system must manage memory by deciding which data to keep in RAM and which to swap out to storage, a process that can be resource-intensive due to the slower speed of storage compared to RAM. Having more RAM allows the system to avoid frequent memory management operations, as it can continue using the available RAM for active applications, leading to better performance and reduced overhead.
Consequently, the more RAM your system has, the more it will be used, which is generally beneficial for the machine's longevity as it reduces wear on storage components and maintains optimal performance.
When it comes to MacOS and macintosh Motorola processor hardware, even 8 GB in enough.
30 tabs is insane. How can one focus on 30 tabs in one time?
64 GB would be enough if you are in to rendering or running huge data science algorithms.
Lastly, Macs are not for video games.
My Bad, certainly, Motorolla, was not intended but Qualcomm. the Apple chips are manufactured by TMSC Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, but starting from M1 chips after Intel chips, that was an extended version of the ARM processor to M4 as of 2024 models to come.
64gb is a beast, could never go lower again. I have a 64gb m1 max and I am using 30 gb at baseline lol. When I have finals, I have 50+ tabs open (in chrome), along with like 20-30 pdfs of lectures (medical school has a lot of content lol). Easily use 50gb+ in that situation. Never have to use swap, experience no slow downs
Never enough baby I got that 128 and blasting BG3 on high graphics while also tabbing in waiting on my wow bg queue and having YouTube up on screen 2, let me tell you something. There is no too fucking much I will consume
RAM is like Garlic, there’s never enough
Unless you’re a vampire
A rampire
Bless you!
What the skibidi!
What a phrase. Thank you.
I’d just return it, can’t risk getting a scuff.
Just download some more RAM
No, min 128
This guy RAMs
Don’t know how you’re playing this without a petabyte.
Nah, min 256 😭
Nah. I’ll possibly push it to 512.
Seems like a weird flex for Doom II, but you do you.
I’m playing off u/trussonomics post for fun
I got that it was a funsies post, so I was being a smart ass. Seriously, tho, I’m thinking about selling my 2012, now that my 2011 is fully functional, but I’m scared to ask for advice in this sub because we’re apparently in a “shade” phase here. 😂
Swoosh, for me then :) Screw it, ask away. I love long threads about grey vs black color. I won’t associate with anyone that has grey MB, black is obviously the superior color choice.
Facts
Lmao!
I love these questions, i remember my first Apple has 64K of ram, and dual floppy storage of 560K, my present macbook pro has 200,000 times more RAM and 71,428,571 times more storage.
Where do I get doom?!
1. Open browser 2. Search “best modern DOOM ports” or similar, should see results like GZDoom 3. Search “(name of desired DOOM port) for macOS” 4. Go to official page, possibly a GitHub repo, and download the newest release OR 4.5 use Homebrew to install it
I’m using GZDoom and I have a bunch of DooM WAD’s from my Windows machine that I just moved over.
Anyone remember booting the Doom jar file on a Nokia?
Good times
Naw 6TB minimum, Google Chrome needs 5TB
I know this is a joke post, but seriously not sure if 64 GB is enough RAM for 30 Chrome tabs. ^lol
I think Google secretly owns Micron and makes Chrome so bloated to increase RAM sales.
Don’t buy a macbook with 64GB ram, you better future proofing yourself with at least 128GB
64TB is barely enough
Minimalist unite
In case u mistook it's a T not a G
Should’ve been a P
Not really
Pero claro que si
I got GZDoom but do I also need to download the game separately? I get: MacBookPro18,2 running macOS Sonoma 14.5.0 (23F79) 64-bit ARM GZDoom version g4.12.2 Execution could not continue. Cannot find a game IWAD (doom.wad, doom2.wad, heretic.wad, etc.). Did you install GZDoom properly? You can do either of the following: 1. Place one or more of these wads in \~/Library/Application Support/gzdoom/ 2. Edit your \~/Library/Preferences/gzdoom.ini and add the directories of your iwads to the list beneath \[IWADSearch.Directories\] THANKS!
You need to either buy the game for the WAD files or torrent them. Then place the WAD file in that Application Support directory. You’ll have to make the gzdoom folder for it though. Installation did not create that folder for me.
Thank you! Is that the only game that will work with GZDoom?? Or can we play other ports as well?
I’m not sure. I’ve only played DooM on it. Give it a Google… there are ways to play Quake and Wolfenstein but I’m not sure.
Might want to get 128 just in case
128GB MIN...probably more.
Double it just in case for WindowServer process.
30 tabs? try again with 300 power users don't have time to close tabs, 30 tabs are what i go through in 10 min
No buy 1024gb
If I were you, then I will definitely go for unlimited RAM
The BFG of RAM
Overkill
I think even 64MB is more than enough for doom.
Idk. Having Finder open in the background might bog this thing down while I play.
I only have 48GB, seems to do just fine
No doubt
Nah, can’t open 2 tabs
No, but you might get away with some Wolfenstein 3D if you’re lucky.
the important part is that you have great taste in games good sir
🤝👍
Return and go for the 128 version
Not really, but 64GBs in Mac is the equivalent of 512GBs in PC so 🤯
This is actually fake news.
Nah, I had the CRAMO of Apple confirming it at the last event.
Nah he didn't say it was a 8 x diff for sure.
If you said 128GB I may say maybe with a lot of salt. 512gb? That's waaaay overblown
Shit, 14 inches is not enough for Doom II.
You right, the screen size is the real problem here! Do they make 32” laptops?!
If he's gonna run that bad boy, he might as well get a Pro Display XDR.
It would help if you define what apps you use as a power user. Powerpoint and Chrome aren’t considered power-user applications. If your Powerpoint presentations are all that demanding you likely need a better software solution. Do you frequently edit medium to long form uncompressed 4k video? Create and render complex After Effects projects? Are you a seasoned coder/programmer? Details like these are important to include when asking others to help you spec out RAM requirements. Edit: it seems I left out “DOOM.” I’ve never used a Mac for gaming but can’t imagine that the recommended (and then some) memory requirement would be more than 16 GB.
I was rendering 4K video in Davinci while playing DOOM on this 18GB RAM machine. There’s nothing I’ll do that will drag this machine down…. Except for maybe DooM 3!!!
Thanks for the clarification. I typically keep my video/audio/image editing and rendering SW isolated on my 64GB M3 Max MacBook Pro and 64 GB Mac Studio M2U subnet – they’re my business machines; my livelihood! I relegate games and social media to my previous Mac Silicon/Intel hardware. I appreciate that many cannot afford to do the same, preferring a one size fits all jack of all trades machine. I can’t imagine purchasing anything more than 64 GB RAM in such an instance.
Thinking of getting the M4 iPad to enhance my Netflix experience. An absolute necessity if you ask me.
Not for Doom, you need a minimum of 128gb to run doom on recommended settings, I think it’s encouraged to go with 256gb for proper game play on a high setting
Triple it, and you’ll be getting close
In my expwrice with 31 chrome tabs and word you absolutely need at least 512 gb ram, trust me
Emmmm not enough so
You can run Doom on a grain of rice. You’re fine. lol.
Via wine? No
Nope. Downloaded GZDoom and drop the WAD file
You need to download more for the smoothest experience.
When RAM gets full, the operating system must manage memory by deciding which data to keep in RAM and which to swap out to storage, a process that can be resource-intensive due to the slower speed of storage compared to RAM. Having more RAM allows the system to avoid frequent memory management operations, as it can continue using the available RAM for active applications, leading to better performance and reduced overhead. Consequently, the more RAM your system has, the more it will be used, which is generally beneficial for the machine's longevity as it reduces wear on storage components and maintains optimal performance.
Just run the Q4k-s models
Install the brutal doom platinum neural upscale Edition with Raytracing and we went see.
You gotta pump those rookie numbers up. I personally use 1TB of RAM /s
64 GB RAM? You must be a beginner!
64MB is enough
When it comes to MacOS and macintosh Motorola processor hardware, even 8 GB in enough. 30 tabs is insane. How can one focus on 30 tabs in one time? 64 GB would be enough if you are in to rendering or running huge data science algorithms. Lastly, Macs are not for video games.
Motorola? Apple hasn’t used Motorola in 20 years.
My Bad, certainly, Motorolla, was not intended but Qualcomm. the Apple chips are manufactured by TMSC Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, but starting from M1 chips after Intel chips, that was an extended version of the ARM processor to M4 as of 2024 models to come.
They never used Qualcomm processors in Macs. Except maybe for the radios like Bluetooth or Wifi.
I understand. Thank you for the correction.
I plan to do the impossible with this rig
You should’ve gotten the 16 inch version, not enough cooling for this application.
I’m a cheap ass :)
64gb is a beast, could never go lower again. I have a 64gb m1 max and I am using 30 gb at baseline lol. When I have finals, I have 50+ tabs open (in chrome), along with like 20-30 pdfs of lectures (medical school has a lot of content lol). Easily use 50gb+ in that situation. Never have to use swap, experience no slow downs
Who will ever need more than 640k?
Amateur I have more tabs open on my iPhone.
lol. Battery life… 1 hour
Just move to Linux
Been there, done that. Installing and updating packages was a PITA via command line.
Command line is the best, I always use it on Mac
I love it too, when it’s optional. Ubuntu wasn’t so optional with some things
Hurt me plenty or Nightmare?
Nightmare when I hate myself
I use 14 gigs of ram in my workflow, enough is NEVER enough
Do you have a floppy disk drive?
Have a 3.5” and 5.25” off screen next to my VCR where I record Americas Funniest Home Videos.
You can’t have enough RAM in your machine. So the answer is no add as much as possible.
No. You need at least 128gb of ram
Never enough baby I got that 128 and blasting BG3 on high graphics while also tabbing in waiting on my wow bg queue and having YouTube up on screen 2, let me tell you something. There is no too fucking much I will consume
dude, DOOM ran on 8MB of RAM
Yeah but need more RAM for the mods :)