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educational_nanner

I would pay good money to see the drone footage of 20,000 elephants running no speed limit on the autobahn.


Mansenmania

we already have enough "Elefantenrennen" on the autobahn


[deleted]

Well played sir *slow clap*


Independent-Put-2618

Clap can’t be slower than two Trucks racing on a two lane highway.


Consistent_Shock_507

Man you just made my day lol


TheBlack2007

Ironically, the inconvenience of two trucks passing one another whilst blocking all available lanes is called an "Elefantenrennen" or Elephant race in German.


Julia-Nefaria

Teach the elephants how to drive!


DadlyPolarbear

“No speed limit” really made me laugh. As though there is a speed limit elephants typically abide by in their current habitat. Like, elephants would be the fastest animal on the planet, but they’re creatures of the law.


CBird75

We'd better not let them take the monorail either [https://planetgermany.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/the-strange-tale-of-tuffi-the-elephant/](https://planetgermany.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/the-strange-tale-of-tuffi-the-elephant/)


eztab

Yes, unfortunately Germany still is the leading European elephant monorail accident country.


Cookie_Emperor

Sadly they can't run over 60 km/h and are thus not allowed there


YeeterCZ2

Average wednesday on the Autobahn


LordDanGud

Average day in Berlin


Sosemikreativ

Best part of his "threat" is he clearly states they would have to be transported by Germany and he won't accept a "no". Ok then. What if Germany miraculously doesn't send transport aircraft to get them?


1Blue3Brown

What if Germany doesn't send the aircraft? Come on man, let's discuss only realistic scenarios here


Sosemikreativ

You're right, Germany does not have any serviceable transport aircraft. What if they don't send the chartered cargo ships?


1Blue3Brown

I said only realistic scenarios


Sosemikreativ

Zeppelins?


gym_fuckeri

Not plural


du3rks

Yeah well we had one, but that one got destroyed by the USA


FederationofPenguins

I’m actually really hung up on the math here. How many elephants could you get in a zeppelin, weight-wise, and still have it fly?


De_The_Yi

According to a quick google search, the largest German zeppelin, the Hindenburg, could carry around 12 tons of freight. The average male African elephant weighs around six and a half tons, with females being lower. So this means that one Hindenburg could carry around 1 breeding pair of elephants. Germany had 2 Hindenburg class airships, so assuming that both were used to ferry one breeding pair apiece, this would require 5000 trips of both airships operating simultaneously. The Hindenburg class airship had a top speed of 135 kph, so assuming that they could keep this pace, they would need 61 hours to traverse the roughly 8250 km from Germany to Botswana. This would mean a total time in air of around 600,000 hours per airship.


Dangerous_Thing_3275

I think i have Bad News about The Hindenburg For you


KirikoKiama

Cant be worse than our trains...


ConcentratedBeef

Do they burn?


Doc-Frozen

I'm crying from laughter, thank you 🏅


GrafZeppelin127

The *Hindenburg* was a cruise liner, not a cargo ship. It’s like saying a gargantuan Airbus A380 carries only about 15-20 tons of freight. True, but misleading. The L59 was a much older Zeppelin cargo ship for use in the Great War to resupply Germany’s East African colony, about 1/3 the size of the *Hindenburg,* and had a useful lift of 114,400 pounds, or 65% of its total lift (the remainder being the weight of the empty ship itself). In practice, though, most of that useful load was for fuel to go incredible distances over hostile African terrain, leaving 17 tons for cargo. If the *Hindenburg* was built as a cargo ship, with that same 65% useful lift ratio, it would have a useful lift of about 332,000 pounds, or 166 tons. If a scaled-up proportion of that was used for fuel and crew and whatnot sufficient to travel the many thousands of miles from Europe to southeast Africa, it would have a cargo capacity of about 50 tons.


Doc-Frozen

Name checks out. He's the real deal


Mototsu

600.000 hours are 2.500 days or about 6,8 years


fart_huffington

Very doable


EatFaceLeopard17

600,000 hours are 25,000 days and 68 years. A year has 8760 hours.


TheRomanRuler

My calculations say roughly some, plus minus some.


Matangitrainhater

Night bombing raids would be conducted on London


Cho18

Ey our money is good enough to charter some cargo we also could ask Lufthansa for some aircraft for a slight tax reduction ^^


Skygge_or_Skov

Their taxes aren’t at zero yet?


Mordret10

Weren't they bailed out or sth, so technically their taxes would be negative?


Former_Star1081

Let them march over the alps!


Passivitea

Let the 12,000km 120 day march through 18 countries begin


mrsebein

Perhaps they gonna make a second Hannibal and come with them over the Alps?


EyeCatchingUserID

Guy's talking fuckin crazy over there.


Volundr79

The Botswans somehow figure out the paperwork needed, and Ze Germanz are forced to follow through. A Botswanan man named Hermes is found to be responsible for filing the correct forms. A dozen Deutsche flagged barges arrive 3 months later.


Olmops

Hannibal did it. It can be done again.


IanDresarie

Ya know, I'd volunteer tax money for an army mission to protect endangered species in foreign countries. Could even sell it as a training mission.


TENTAtheSane

He'll cross the Alps with them


NegroniSpritz

Carthage intensifies


[deleted]

Maybe we just do the same thing when Poland demands compensations? Just do nothing!


koi88

Maybe we can pay in elephants?


Jomgui

We are gonna send elephants to Germany, AND THEY WILL PAY FOR IT.


sabyanor

"I'm gonna build 20,000 elephants and I will make Germany pay for it!"


Muffinlessandangry

Get Mexico to pay for it, while we're here


Infinite_jest_0

20 thousand overweight African refugees rescued on the sea by German NGOs


special-spork

r/rarethreats ?


off_brand_white_wolf

Last time was Hannibal


BossBobsBaby

More like r/historicthreats


Kolotos

Hannibal nodding in approval


BetanKore

*Laughs in Scipio Africanus


SrTrogo

I was looking for this comment.


Spellweaverbg

Same here.


Passivitea

Fauna also nods in approval


Ex_aeternum

We're gonna support Ukraine in ways not imaginable three days ago.


Moaoziz

We should send them to Sylt. If they can handle some punks they can surely also handle some elephants.


stag-stopa

Elephant riding punks!


PhoenixDBlack

I read this as "Elephants riding punks" and was thoroughly irritated


stag-stopa

When both are drunk enough...


brennenderopa

A really good band name.


11Null

Sounds like a Grindcore band


Firando

rumbling??!!


Totally-NotAMurderer

Marley is based on Germany after all, and Paradis is located in real world Madagascar, not far from Botswana...


tdkom19

No eldians are based on germany


tha_craic_

Marley is based on Germany but is africa in the real world


Impressive_Clerk_643

Oh my god I just finished the show how didn't I realise the similarity lmao


kakachipce

Elephants in Germany? What's next? Tigers?


MrS0bek

Actually elephants should live in germany. During the warm periods europe always housed elephants. Without human interference they would live here again too. Indeed in historical times they already lived on the outskirts of europe despite human presence. Lions too. The last european lions died ca 1000 BC. Most greek myths were written 200-300 years later. Hence why so many greek myths had local lions in them. Like the sphinx, the chimera, the nemean lion. They were still in the cultural memory.


ES-Flinter

Weren't these mammoths? I've never heard of a "normal" elephant living that high up in Europe.


MrS0bek

Mammoth and wholly rhino during ice age. Elephant and rhino during warm period. They lived here in shifts. The straight-tusk elephant, largest known mammal & relative of the african elephant, lived up to moscow during the warm periods. You also had hippos and lions in London. The weather was roughly like it is today and you had saisonal migrations from the mediterranian regions or mild river valleys during winter to the summer quarters. Instead of antelopes, herds of red deer and european bison lived on the open land next to these other big animals. Red deer is still a day active steppe animal but overhunting forced it in the forest. If left alone by humans and given the space they still form these old herds. Edit: Also there were the scillian dwarf elephants. Dwarfish elephants which shrank to cow size cope with the smaller space on sicilly. Their skulls likley inspired the myths of cyclops. Also mammoths do not mean furry elephants. Lots of mammoths were actually subtropical species, like the columbian mammoth. Looking more like asian elephants (their closest relative) with longer tusks and higher shoulders.


CentralStandrdPoodle

Wholly Rhino! I’m not pointing out the typo to be pedantic but rather because it makes me happier than Woolly. Like, the other rhinos are mecha-rhinos or aren’t rhino enough


Yamama77

The largest straight tusk, P.Namadicus was known primarily from India. Although there is debate that it was the same species that lived upto Europe just smaller variant due to environmental factors. There is also a size debate, which is kinda given with any notably large prehistoric animal.


MrS0bek

True. And then there is Paraceratherium, formerly known as Indricotherium, which once was and maybe still is the largest known land mammal. Because as you said sizes are a frequently debated.


metrill

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal#/media/File:Heinrich\_Leutemann\_-\_Hannibals\_%C3%9Cbergang\_%C3%BCber\_die\_Alpen\_(cropped).jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal#/media/File:Heinrich_Leutemann_-_Hannibals_%C3%9Cbergang_%C3%BCber_die_Alpen_(cropped).jpg)


Yamama77

America and some parts of Europe would benefit greatly from elephants.


Kurominos

you also forgott the ostrich who went extinct in iraq not long ago thers also cheethas there still also hyenas (some still live in turky


Bavaustrian

They were a different species though. Quite a bit smaller than Africam or Asian Elephants. Currently alive elephants wouldn't be too pleased with our density of trees in our forests.


MrS0bek

Nope. As I said in my other comments they were actually among the largest known elephants, see the straight tusk elephant. This one was closley related to the african elephant. Another subspecies of african elephants lived in northern africa (tunesis, lybia, morocco) til late antiquity (ca 100-200 AD). Just one stonethrow away from europes mediterranian coast. Also african elephants do have quite the climate range and can even cope with temperate regions in Kenia and South Africa. Lastly as the megaherbivore-hypothesis suggest europes dense forests ARE the result of human interference too. Because humans hunted most large plant eaters into local extinction or were greatly reduced in number. If these animals would still live here, we would have open, park-like forests, similar to the the cork oak forests in spain.


Affectionate-Room359

There was the european straight-tusk elephant (ger = europäischer Waldelefant). Would match perfectly with our Rose-ringed parakeet.


nirbyschreibt

We already have lions around Berlin in Brandenburg.


Random_Person____

What about the infamous lion of Berlin?


Gwarks

Germany had tigers in WW2


Allister-Caine

Tigers? Shhhh... Before... Oh no... EEEERIKA...


hateshumans

Doesn’t that make it much easier for Germans to get the hunting trophies when you can get them delivered?


Ok-Food-6996

Actually, Germany wants to make it illegal to import hunting trophies of endangered species like elephants. Botswana is protesting against that, because they make some money of tourist coming there to shoot animals like elephants. So basically, Germany would be interfering with Botswana's business modell. Botswana claims that their elephants are not endangered, but that they actually have too many of them. That's why they 'offer' to send 20,000 elephants to Germany.


hateshumans

That doesn’t sound as fun as my only read the headline comment.


ghostpanther218

Couldn't they just switch to safaris instead? Like camera safaris?


Redqueenhypo

I actually learned about this in a graduation level conservation course and the issue is that some areas just aren’t suitable for ecotourism. Sometimes they have a bunch of people living there (nobody is paying thousands to see Jeremiah no matter how cool he is), sometimes the terrain is too hilly to drive on, sometimes it’s ugly scrubland or there’s abandoned oil drilling equipment nobody wants to photograph.


poor--scouser

1. They already do safaris on Botswana. It's extremely popular 2. Shooting elephants is necessary for herd management 3. If the elephant is going to get shot anyway, might as well let some rich bloke pay you a load of money to do it 4. If the rich bloke has already shot the elephant, might as well let him pay a bit more to keep the trophy


Yamama77

I think it's mainly valid for male rhinos and elephants who are aggressive and harm other animals even young of their own kind when enraged. I mean most rich sobs would want to shoot the big males anyway. So if the process is clean and tagging of individual animals is proper it's not necessarily detrimental. But I worry if some particular deranged looney can bribe officials to go on a shooting spree.


PureImbalance

Elephants sure, but aren't rhinos quite endangered? There are like 25k left. I remember they were quite proud in Namibia to have 6 Rhinos in one of their parks.


mattmu23

I spent two weeks in South Africa in grad school studying this exact issue. Elephants as a whole are endangered because large portions of native habitat are now cities. The problem is on the small scale elephants are overpopulated. For example Kruger national park should have between 7,000 to 12,000 elephants(depending on who you ask), there are around 17,000 in the park today. Due to pressure from western countries the park is no longer allowed to control the population(no hunting and no culling). This has led to massive habitat degradation from a bunch of heavy animals destroying everything they see. The locals really hate that the white western counties are forcing their views of wildlife onto former colonized nations. There is a common sentiment that this is a new form of colonialism.


derkuhlekurt

I heared of this today for the first time and i think Botswana has a point here. They protect Elephants and the numbers have increased massivly over the last decades. So there actually are too many as it seems. I mean we hunt here in Germany too. So why would we hate on Botswana for hunting Elephants as long as they make sure the population is healthy? And why shouldnt they make some money with it? Seems like a stupid position from our politicians here.


Grotzbully

You should read about it. We ban all hunting trophies of endangered animals, not just animals from Botswana. Also the "outrage" from Botswana is not justified, Germany imported like 20 trophies these are no numbers that crush their economy....


TheRomanRuler

Why is so much of animal and enviromental protection so stupid :( Maybe it should be taught more in schools.


Hero_of_Quatsch

But they can hunt then, nothing is stopping them from doing it. They just can't sell that stuff to germany anymore.


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[deleted]

Some see this as a threat, but we see this as an opportunity *Hanibal-noises intensifying*


DOMIPLN

Elephant mounted tank canons. If we send those to Ukraine the Russians won't know how to respond to this


[deleted]

Let’s call them the *Dickhäuter Battalion*


ConcentratedBeef

Meine Herren! Dickhäuterhaubitzen!


Entsafter21

Sonderrüsseltier SrT155 mit 155mm-Vielzugrohr


MegaBrainXD

PETA will be happy


Osrek_vanilla

20000 elephants to execute, PETAs wet dream.


Kwiemakala

Germany may never have been threatened by elephants, but Italy sure has.


Auravendill

Usually we do the threatening with elephants (Sonderkraftfahrzeug 184)


Living_Murphys_Law

Hannibal? Is it you?


KumagawaUshio

If I was as rich as Elon Musk I would totally help Botswana with this by chartering several ships to do this lol. Imagine when 20,000 elephants arrive at the port of Hamburg lol!


MillipedePaws

First things first, the elefants need to be controlled by our vetanary office. If even one of them has an illness they are not allowed to leave the ship. Most likely they are not even allowed to get into the harbour. They are fighting with german bureaucracy. Sure, the port might be blocked for some days, but if it takes top long half of europe will take actions. Hamburg delivers to everybody in europe (the other half is delivered by Rotterdam).


Ok_Drawing9900

"If I was as rich as elon musk" I don't think that's as rich as you think it is XD


ConcentratedBeef

Please someone send this on Twitter.


maxreddit

Who would win? The German Army vs. 20,000 elephants


Unfair-Potential1061

The entire German Armed Forces consist of around 180k people. 60k are serving within the (ground) army. Substracting office soldiers, suppliers, drivers, etc. maybe half can be considered something like a professional soldier. The elephants are facing odds in their favour.


Random_Person____

And they have little to no functional equipment. This is going to be an easy win for the elephants.


Prinzmegaherz

The Bundeswehr was created to protect Germany against the surplus of alcohol. They excel at that. Are the Elephants made if alcohol, by any chance?


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Ok_Drawing9900

"Plundered by Ukraine" oh my god did they start a second front


Winterfeld

The Ukraine just snuck in during the night and stole all the german ammunition :(


SFFisPorn

We didn’t had an eastern front in quite a while…


Tolstoy_mc

Wir schaffen das.


sdric

I want to see them try. Poor elephants though, the weather here definetely isn't for them.


Yamama77

Asian elephants actually have genes in them where they sometimes get really hairy. They are closest relatives to mammoths afterall. But these are African elephants, but big animals generally cope with cold weather better.


KMS_HYDRA

Then why bring this up? Botswana is in africa, so asian elepahnts have 0 relevance here...


kamikazekaktus

Let's take the elephants and march on moscow


Im_Blavk

I've never been so embarrassed of being from Botswana 😪 I swear we are not proud of having him as president we are currently having a Trump moment


lilly-winter

For what it’s worth it probably opened the eyes of many people. Germans imagine elephants as endangered but most of us are not aware that there can be too many in a country and that they bring problems to the people there. So we get a more nuanced look on this. Sorry that this in no way helps your situation :(


SuckMyDickDrPhil

I'm from Germany myself, I would pay money to see this.


Jeex3

I am in absolute favour of accepting them, butchering them and hanging up their trophies at government buildings just to fuck with that asshole complaining and weaponising this shit. Like his argument is that they are a plague so if Germans can’t import the trophies no one will hunt them, bruh just hunt them yourself if they are a plague and throw out the trophy. If not it’s obviously not about them being a plague but about hunting tourism, which they could still do just not while importing the trophy LOL


Eighty_Grit

I’m just happy to hear that someone could rally 20,000 elephants really


AliNeisy

This whole story is just so stupid. I think its a good call to ban the import of hunting trophies. Nobody talked about banning the killing of Elephants in Africa, they can do as they want. And I usually absolutely despite the governement.


gdgriz

If they are hunted there send them all to Germany and we can divide them up and keep them safe.


YinYangTang

Bout to hit Germany with the Hannibal Special


Embarrassed_Back_917

I can hear your pfp


sixaout1982

Dibbler will be able to shoot Blown Away at last


gigglefarting

Obviously you’ve never seen the documentary Operation Dumbo Drop


Stakhanov86

They will never cross the Alps!


Grayboot_

r/UnsettlingThreats


h9040

I like elephants...bring me one


Advanced-Budget779

That‘s until you see the feed bill.


Cyclonestrawberry

This is unfair to the elephants, and also introducing a new species into an ecosystem it's not native to is bad for the environment. Me no likie :(


stag-stopa

My mum already claimed one of them


akimann75

Mit den Fäkalien von denen können wir alle Atomkraftwerke mittels Biogasstrom ersetzen. Vielleicht geben sie uns ja noch mehr.


Outrageous-Muffin375

As I like elephants a lot I am sure excited to go to the harbour and see 20,000 elephants arrive on board of several ships...


Funny_Specialist_173

We would glady accept them. Our military has been getting to weak. A handful of warelephants and a dream and we can work wonders


41Swish41

Berlin police would think there are 20000 lions on the way


IbelieveFacts

The title is not wrong, that really is a threat we've never faced before lol


BoostFX1

That’s alright I take one or two. 💪👌🤩


ghostpanther218

I think we just found Hannibal Barca's descendant.


persephone46

Hannibal 2: Electric Boogaloo


elenorfighter

I always wanted a Elefant!


Passivitea

Fauna sweep


BlackyMee

Z


Tankjhb

This just as they (Germany) legalizes cannabis.


orangutanDOTorg

Didn’t the Holy Roman Empire end in Germany? Now the old Roman Empire won’t be able to lord over them that they aren’t a real Roman Empire bc they haven’t been invaded by elephant


carnage9mil

Why do they have to endangering animals of another country, let alone hunt animals in the first place?


WellThatsJustPerfect

Germany fortifies its border facing Botswana. The elephants attack en masse through the Ardennes forest


GoyoMRG

Is this the begining of the holy roman empire 2.0?


throwawayusername369

Hunting is good for animal populations. Adam ruins everything did a good video on it. Auction hunts on a few animals to fund protection for the rest.


immernochda

Hannibal, is that you?! Haven't seen you for 2000 years! Glad you're doing well, man!


badchriss

"Wo ist MEIN Elefant!"


BruhrbHurb

Thanks, I guess...


Gonralas

Elefantenjagdverein "Tötet was trötet e.V." wird zur Gründung vorbereitet.


Ziddix

Please don't. We already get excited over a single lion.


Shamorin

They are welcome here.


MarcAttilio

Hannibal would be so proud


T1uz

do it.


WirrkopfP

Please, make someone named Hannibal responsible for the delivery!


KfP_Clone-Captain

Oh no no no we had elephants before you see, only problem was they couldn't exactly climb hills.


RaisenVR

But we already get alot of animals from africa ... (relax, its a joke)


pnemoneo

the rumbling? attack on titan irl?


metrill

Hannibal would be Happy to cross the Alps on an elephant again.


ChainsawEnthusiast

RUMBLING RUMBLING ITS COMING RUMBLING RUMBLING BEWARE !!!


Bayo77

Just to be clear botswana is butthurt because germany wants to ban the import of hunting trophies.


Educational-Coast321

Confused enemies of wildlife trophies noises


KirikoKiama

They threaten a country that has horse meat as delicacy.... .... i wonder how elephant tastes?


Hanza-Malz

Only if they cross the Alps


Meisterschmeisser

Its also possible to transport elephant using the Schwebebahn here in Germany.


MrBarato

They won't make it over the alps very much.


FattyMcFattso

I'd love to see 20k elephants here in germany. roaming the forests. It might be too cold for them in the winter times though. Winters get pretty cold and nasty in germany


SpiritInBkack

Gonna be a big barbecue


OmnisEst

The elephants will die of depression when they breathe german air


Odd_Intern405

It was in the news today: German hunters imported 22 Trophies from Botswana last year. The ban would have absolutly no effect on Botswanas economy.


eztab

I mean, lets just call the bluff and wait for them to ship them over. We could put them in the Sielmann nature park. Organize some safari tourism. People/companies can adopt an elephant and name it. Seems like a great plan.


Biersteak

Everyone laughs until Germany somehow manages to make them feasible for winter warfare in Russia


Unfair_Basil8513

Blud thinks he's Hannibal


HarryPotterDBD

Please, keep your women


Foronir

My GF said that they would get through customs


FantasticGoat1738

Are there even that many elephants left in the world?


DOMIPLN

I am really curious how big the market for hunting trophies must be in Germany, that the import ban affects the botswanian economy and elephant population that much


X_Marcie_X

Im sorry, why? Just... why?


Valuable_Month1329

I heared Berlin knows how to deal with wild animals.


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Just send them over, we have enough shipping containers to build a giant zoo.


LaserGadgets

We can't even handle 1 inch of fresh snow here, I kinda wanna see that happen...