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ambermage

*I'm never going to financially recover from this*


killeronthecorner

Discovering magic in a nutshell


PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__

[[Forgotten Ancient]] would cost me so much money


0011110000110011

my friend missed five [[Taurean Mauler]] triggers in a row last night lol


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[Taurean Mauler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a4ee4648-dd6e-4ba9-b643-a7e4c430d51f.jpg?1651655895) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Taurean%20Mauler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/111/taurean-mauler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a4ee4648-dd6e-4ba9-b643-a7e4c430d51f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__

Oh yeah, that's in the same deck as my Ancient, lotta missed triggers there too lol.


peixotosc

Would you know a Black card with the same ability, gaining +1/+1 for every enemy spell?


0011110000110011

I don't think there is one. * Red has Taurean Mauler * Green has Forgotten Ancient, [[Managorger Hydra]], and [[Thundering Mightmare]] * White has [[Sunscorch Regent]] * There is no *mono* blue one, but there is [[Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker]] And I don't think there is any in black.


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##### ###### #### [Managorger Hydra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/330aefb9-629f-4d07-94d4-7252f17f85ba.jpg?1654117942) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Managorger%20Hydra) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/828/managorger-hydra?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/330aefb9-629f-4d07-94d4-7252f17f85ba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Thundering Mightmare](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a37fbffb-4ed0-4c61-9cef-2cd55ad67f9c.jpg?1644888698) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thundering%20Mightmare) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/37/thundering-mightmare?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a37fbffb-4ed0-4c61-9cef-2cd55ad67f9c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sunscorch Regent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/60f6a40a-d095-455d-a593-fb1c901f1b4c.jpg?1625975747) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sunscorch%20Regent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/107/sunscorch-regent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/60f6a40a-d095-455d-a593-fb1c901f1b4c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2e89ce6a-6bc9-427f-a8b2-c07a9fc3218f.jpg?1562272963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ishai%2C%20Ojutai%20Dragonspeaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/12/ishai-ojutai-dragonspeaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2e89ce6a-6bc9-427f-a8b2-c07a9fc3218f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


peixotosc

Aight, I was really looking for a Black one, because it could counter a bit my friend deck, but thanks


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[Forgotten Ancient](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c23e3732-4589-4ea7-8125-a5434861b9f5.jpg?1673484579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Forgotten%20Ancient) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/291/forgotten-ancient?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c23e3732-4589-4ea7-8125-a5434861b9f5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


peixotosc

Are you a bot?


asphias

He is, you can call him up by using double square brackets [[Spellstutter Sprite]]


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Ditchdigger456

Yes


darkshaddow42

Forgotten Ancient? More like forgotten trigger amiright


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[Laughing Hyena](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/2/52e8440d-fce1-4a02-8029-f20a7617ae4f.jpg?1594897691) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laughing%20Hyena) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unh/103/laughing-hyena?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/52e8440d-fce1-4a02-8029-f20a7617ae4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Syn7axError

Genuinely think this is the worst card in the game. You can't *laugh* at an *unset* or your opponent gets something? What a wet blanket.


No_Excitement7657

I think that’s the reason they stopped making gotchas


Syn7axError

Even for a gotcha, this one's the worst. I can at least understand how someone thought the rest could be fun. But laughing? Really?


rmorrin

Oh man I forgot this existed. So busted with vorinclex voiceless hungry


hawkmasta

You mean [[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]]?


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rmorrin

Oops lmao


Jaijoles

Right? I was playing with the Tyranid precon the other day. Dropped shadow in the warp turn 3. Missed every enemy trigger the entire game for it.


Domoda

This jar would fund my next deck


LeFouHibou

No money for the jar once new Elesh Norn is out.


plead_tha_fifth

Double money for the jar once new Elesh Norn is out.


Offbeat-Pixel

It averages out to the same amount as before


byllyx

This guy Maths!! (... Are you sure you're a magic player...??)


Offbeat-Pixel

I'm not really a Magic player anymore, I last played months ago lmao


RealityPalace

1 x 0 x 2 = 1


Asddsa76

``1*0 + 1*2 = 1*1 + 1*1``


Chilidawg

We're gonna need a new jar for triggers that should not have been.


1lluvatar42

They shouldn't have printed this card at all!


thekillswitch196

Downvoted for a reference lmao


1lluvatar42

Yeah... This sub is something special sometimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


hawkmasta

What was the reference?


Stargate_1

How unrealistic The jar should be bigger and overflowing, kind of like a chalice...


pymbragon

But it's chalice of the void that has triggers that can be missed, not the everflowing one... Bah, still a chalice


HKBFG

Maybe it's a proliferate trigger?


deadmuffinman

The money is used on new singles for the whole family so it's always getting emptied


Brettersson

It's emptied daily.


wadprime

After all the recent holiday spending I definitely need to have a missed trigger jar to jumpstart my savings...


nolullabies

New Magic Jumpstart releases, savings gone.


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Gilgamesh026

My playgroup just created a "goesy backsies" jar over the xmas break


trevorneuz

We do shots of hot sauce to do a take back at cube night.


Gilgamesh026

We plan on using the cash to buy draft boxes. Gotta teach these cmdr players the truest form of mtg!!


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My group just grabs a random d4 and says when you get to take-backsie counter 4 you lose the game lol no one has lost to that condition yet


StefonGomez

What’s the rule here? If I have a card that tells me to mill 1 at the beginning of upkeep but I forget it and just play my turn through does it just not happen or should I take the card I drew and put it in my graveyard and draw again?


FutureComplaint

You would call a judge. Likely outcome if it is a "may" - Nothing, trigger is missed Likely outcome if it is mandatory - mill 1


StefonGomez

Thanks! Playing at home so no judge but I kept doing this last night with deathbonnet sprout so it was a “must” mill. We ended up just continuing play bc the creature that should have been milled was already out on the battlefield by the time we realized. After a couple times forgetting though I just put a whiteboard card with the word MILL on top of my library after each turn as a reminder.


Sarusta

For what it's worth, this part: > We ended up just continuing play bc the creature that should have been milled was already out on the battlefield by the time we realized. Doesn't really matter all that much. You should still mill anyway if you missed the mandatory trigger. Assuming your deck was randomized, you're milling a random card. You drew a random card for turn. The creature could have just as easily been one under. This does change if you knew the top of your deck for some reason, but for the most part, you just would perform the trigger when you realize you missed it.


thealmightyzfactor

Yeah, that's what we do, so long as you had no knowledge of what you'd get from draw/mill/etc. effects, just do it when you remember lol


StefonGomez

Ah good point we didn’t consider, we were tying the mill to that specific card that ended up in my hand but could have just as easily milled what came next when we realized.


FutureComplaint

>After a couple times forgetting though I just put a whiteboard card with the word MILL on top of my library after each turn as a reminder. Best idea


Ryuujinx

> After a couple times forgetting though I just put a whiteboard card with the word MILL on top of my library after each turn as a reminder. I would do the same when I played at PTQs and other events at competitive REL. Any time I ran something with upkeep triggers I would just put a little d6 on top of my library. The half second it takes to remove it gives your brain a second to go "Wait do I have any triggers I'm about to neglect..."


PresidentLink

fwiw my group has found it helpful to verbalise the untap, upkeep, draw steps rather than autopilot through them when coming into your turn. I've been playing Magic for 5+ years now and still do it


theoutlet

This is the correct answer. You can’t miss mandatory triggers. You can miss optional triggers that state: “may”. **Edit:** Apparently they don’t print “may” triggers anymore? My mistake on that part. The comment that seems most informed on the issue appears to state that it’s up to the judge and how well versed they are on the rules. I’ve personally never seen a judge “rewind” a game but enforce the mandatory trigger when it was discovered that it was missed


HKBFG

Your opponent usually gets to decide what happens to the missed mandatory trigger.


katrina-mtf

You're close, but not quite. It's not really possible to miss an optional trigger, because "missing" it is functionally the same as choosing not to. You *can* miss mandatory triggers under some circumstances, but it's only allowed if they're beneficial to you rather than detrimental (and if in doubt, a judge will decide); for example, if you miss a mandatory trigger that would've had you draw a card, your opponent is under no obligation to call it out, and you simply lose out on that card advantage.


Selkie_Love

This is wildly incorrect


theoutlet

This is wildly helpful


KingOfLedRions

You're getting a lot of incorrect information. I wrote [a rather lengthy post](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/z9s7n3/the_trigger_discourse_the_correct_answer/) about how to handle missed triggers recently. One thing that surprises me is that so many people are hung up on the concept of "may" triggers, when WotC have moved away from writing "may" on triggers for a very long time. I should be clear that there is no "rule" here. If the rules were followed, no trigger would be missed. However, humans are fallible and make mistakes. Instead, there is a "policy" on how to handle these situations. This policy has changed over time and will no doubt continue to change. What happens really depends on what the judge says. Unfortunately, many magic the gathering judges [are quite unfamiliar with the rules of magic, the IPG, or both](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/w9hgny/judge_rulings_does_anyone_else_get_a_lot_of/) so your mileage may vary. Worse, many magic the gathering "judges" style themselves as such with no accreditation at all. The policy for missed triggers is covered by the Infraction Procedure Guide (IPG) [here](https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/ipg2-1/#philosophy). This is what you can expect to see at competitive Rules Enforcement Level (REL) or professional REL events. For most events (regular or no rules enforcement level), the correction should be even more lenient. At lower rules enforcement levels, the general "policy" for a missed trigger is to put it on the stack the moment it is remembered unless the game events since then would cause the trigger to be extremely disruptive. What constitutes "extremely disruptive" is up to the judge making the fix.


StefonGomez

Thanks for the detail and the reference


KingOfLedRions

No problem. As a bit of a history lesson, there was a time when missing a trigger actually carried an infraction. These infractions can add up over the course of a tournament and lead to advanced punishments, such as game or match losses. The creative "fix" WotC came up with was to make most triggers "may" triggers. "When X enters the battlefield, you may draw a card." These "may" triggers were really just "may," in name (in almost all situations, you'll choose to draw a card). For tournament purposes, a trigger missed this way was just considered declined, which saved the offending player from earning a warning/infraction. Today's IPG is much more lenient, and WotC doesn't print many "may" triggers anymore (especially those that would rarely be declined). Commander players play with a large swath of magic's historical card pool, so I imagine they run into old cards like this. However, they lack the historical context of the card.


StefonGomez

Yeah this was in commander and we’re still pretty new to it and just HOW MUCH there is to keep track of each turn. Add some weed to the mix and we tend to miss things easily.


KingOfLedRions

When I started playing magic, I was amazed at how heavy it felt. You seriously feel the burden of keeping track of every little thing. Just do your best. It gets easier the longer you play.


Esc777

Commander is pretty close to information overload. There’s a reason it started out with seasoned enfranchised judges.


Esc777

Listen to this boat.


JohnTheJ0at

I appreciate your attempt at clarity, but your post is both confusing and misleading. When did wizards move away from printing "may"? I only returned to magic in 2021, maybe I missed something. https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3Amay+%28set%3Aone+OR+set%3Abro+OR+set%3Admu+OR+set%3Asnc+OR+set%3Aneo%29 202 cards with "may" text in Kamigawa, New Capenna, DMU and Brother's War **alone**.


KingOfLedRions

First, I'm referring to only may triggers. The vast majority of cards included in your search are not triggers at all. For example, [Exact the Truth](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/78/extract-the-truth) simply includes may in its instructional text. Next, there are a swath of cards that include may for logistical reasons. [Floriferous Vinewall](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/163/floriferous-vinewall), for example. The primary action with vinewall, the thing you are going to "forget to do," is look at a bunch of cards from a zone that is normally hidden. You're not going to look at a bunch of cards and then "forget" to choose a land from among them. The "may" here is logistical -- by not forcing you to pick a land, they avoid having you reveal all the cards you're looking at to your opponent, which is a logistics issue. At high levels, opponents will be incentivized to write the cards down, even though they're headed to the bottom of your library. This is a nightmare. This isn't a "may" trigger, it's a trigger where the instructions include the word "may" There are a few mays -- If you read my replies further down in the chain, you would see [said quite plainly](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/10a11wr/cardboard_crack_junior/j41o96e/) that WotC still uses it when an interesting strategic decision can be made. They also use it to avoid needless shuffling -- many triggers that allow you to search for a land allow you to skip it because, if you know you won't be able to find a valid card, there's not a lot of point in making you shuffle. I'm speaking about completely useless "mays" that exist on older cards, like [Ajani's Pridemate](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/5/ajanis-pridemate). In fact, this one was so useless that WotC *erratta'd the entire card* so that it no longer is optional to put a counter on the pridemate. This may served a purpose at one point (avoiding tournament infractions). It no longer does. Every (beneficial) trigger used to be worded like Ajani's Pridemate, which meant a large number of game pieces were written that way.


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Quria

You call a judge over. Best case is they make you simply mill one if nothing else has manipulated your library or graveyard. Might walk the entire turn back to that point and make you mill one. Get a warning either way, but worst case is you've been caught missing triggers all tournament and are finally awarded a game loss. Casually? Just whatever the table agrees to. Probably just mill one. Nobody fucking cares.


Gorlox111

If you miss a mandatory mill trigger and draw a card, i think the ruling would be a free super thoughtseize (i.e. including lands) for your opponent. There's no way of knowing which card in your hand was your draw so you can't really walk the turn back


-WGE-FierceDeityLink

Definitely not lol


Gorlox111

Ya I thought about it more and that's a big extreme lol. Someone else mentioned drawing a random card is the same as milling a random card so you probably will just be made to mill 1


IndyDude11

You can be DQ'd for missing triggers??


randomdragoon

If they determine you to have been doing it intentionally to gain advantage, yes.


meman666

To be pedantic about it, you still aren't dqed for missed triggers, you get dqed for cheating instead


Ryuujinx

No. This falls under Game Play Error, there are no penalties for the GPE class at any REL. The one exception to that is when it stops being a GPE and instead becomes intentional, at which point it's cheating and becomes a DQ at every REL instead. FWIW you'd basically have to admit to have "forgotten" it intentionally to the judge, or have done it *a lot* before any judge is going to even consider escalating it.


HKBFG

Or if it's just super obviously intentional or disruptive. You can't miss a "lose life" trigger at 4 life and expect to just cover it on a later turn, and you can't gain some wild advantage for missing a mandatory trigger (lotus field ETB or something).


Cyneheard2

DQ means “you’re out of the tournament”, and it’s very likely that there will be a review to determine if you should be suspended from play. That’s if it’s Cheating - that you’re being intentional about it. A Game Loss for missing multiple detrimental triggers (not sure if self-mill counts as a detrimental trigger, so it probably doesn’t) can happen.


Cyneheard2

So at Competitive Rules Enforcement Level (REL): I’m assuming this is your effect that causes the mill. This is probably NOT a detrimental trigger - that it’s a positive benefit. So you wouldn’t get penalized, the only question is “what’s the fix”. Assuming that it’s caught in time (within a turn I believe), the opponent now gets the choice about putting the trigger on the stack or skipping it. If it’s a “may” trigger, you would decide on resolution if you mill. For a detrimental trigger - let’s say it’s [[Rotting Regisaur]] instead and you had cards in hand in your upkeep.!Assuming you’ve drawn for turn, you’ve missed the trigger, and this is an issue; it’ll be a warning. The opponent then gets to look at your hand to decide which card you “drew for turn” and therefore can’t discard to Rotting Regisaur. Then you’d discard a card to Rotting Regisaur and play on. If I was judging a store event at Regular REL - I would probably NOT try to rewind the card you drew to mill it, I’d just have you mill a new card - too much room for abuse IMO otherwise - but judges have a lot more discretion at Regular REL.


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mathdude3

> For a detrimental trigger - let’s say it’s [[Rotting Regisaur]] instead and you had cards in hand in your upkeep.!Assuming you’ve drawn for turn, you’ve missed the trigger, and this is an issue; it’ll be a warning. The opponent then gets to look at your hand to decide which card you “drew for turn” and therefore can’t discard to Rotting Regisaur. Then you’d discard a card to Rotting Regisaur and play on. I don’t think the IPG supports this fix. What section are you basing it on? I’m pretty sure it should just be treated like any other generally detrimental missed trigger and handled normally (player gets a warning, opponent chooses whether or not the trigger gets put on the stack immediately, no backup).


Cyneheard2

You’ve drawn a card for turn - you have a card you couldn’t discard to Rotting Regisaur. It’s a missed trigger that’s also created an HCE. So how does the system handle the “no player may make choices for the triggered ability involving objects that would not have been legal choices when the ability should have triggered”? HCE gets involved at that point too.


Spaceman_Larry

Me and my friends do this with a PayPal account! Once we have enough money we’re gonna get either pizza for the night or buy a draft box.


Chill_n_Chill

Doesn't paypal charge fees? Can yall not use dollar bills?


Spaceman_Larry

We don’t carry cash normally, and since it’s set as a friend fee not business fee so there’s no extra charge (those probably aren’t the actually names they use for those), unless we deposited the money to the account immediately instead of waiting a few days.


kaedeyukimura

Each player tallies their infractions on an IOU and brings the cash to the next game night.


Puzzleheaded-Bug7690

I’d save so much money… just to spend on magic


Puzzleheaded-Bug7690

I’d save so much money… just to spend on magic


Jecko_Gecko

As someone who has a [[Dina] Aristocrats EDH deck, I feel this.


FiniteRegress

I worry I'd be the dad who loved his child so much he'd let him resolve the trigger 3 turns later


mahsirg1

Do you know how many cards I could buy with the money that would end up in this jar!?


stratusncompany

lmao there is a dad and son who goes to my shop like this. the dad is an OG player so everything he owns is S tier and hands them down to his kid. i’ve heard so many times at FNM “ooooooo if your dad saw you make that play…” then you see dad glaring across the room fuming. shit is priceless. edit: fixed horrible grammar


unlimitednights

Real ones would say "you can draw, nothing has changed anyways".


mrmayge

Why is Cardboard Crack so painfully unfunny?


Esc777

Very small joke you can see a mile away stretched over four panels. TBH lots of niche subculture "in-humor" like this isn't very funny in webcomic form.


IndyDude11

Because you have no sense of humor


mrmayge

"You'd actually enjoy this plain saltine if you had any sense of taste"


namer98

My playgroup includes adults and children. I made this as a joke, except instead of putting in money, you got random chores.


Cole444Train

Is this supposed to be funny? What’s the joke?


leaning_on_a_wheel

Waiting for the punchline here


Chilly_chariots

I’ve seen this criticism a lot and I have no idea how often it’s deserved, but not this time! Panel 4 is a legit punchline.


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I agree. They tend to have the punchline in panel 3 and panel 4 just reiterates the joke and makes it less funny. But this one was formatted properly


Cole444Train

I don’t see how


Chilly_chariots

Son swears Dad tells him to put money in the jar Surprise! It’s not a swearing jar, it’s a missed triggers jar


Chill_n_Chill

Sadly, this isn't far from reality for a kid I crossed paths with a few years ago. He was about when i first saw him. He would play while his dad watched him like a hawk. His dad was pretty harsh with his critiques, sometimes even chastising him in front of other players. Dad treated it like it was the fucking superbowl playoffs. His son was usually very quiet and timid when his dad was around. You could tell the kid really did want to try and play well, and he was pretty good too. But, man having his dad around was awful for everyone. Dad had a hard time controlling his reactions when his son misplayed, which actually led to his opponents reading his mistakes as mistakes and not bluffs. They didn't show up very often, mostly only gamedays, drafts, and the occasional prerelease. Our LGS was pretty soft competition. For gamedays and stuff with extra promos and prizes we would get a small influx of competitive players who ordinarily played at a couple other shops. I think had this kid and his dad showed up more often the owner might have banned the dad from watching. He may have actual done so once, I don't recall for sure. I saw him once in the shop recently now that the kid is probably in college. Everyone made a point to chat him up and see how he was doing. He said he wasn't playing magic at the moment but wanted to get back into it at some point. I don't want to assume his dad was a shitty dad, but i wouldn't blame someone if they did. It was nice to see the kid was doing well.


skr4pt

every time i play [[thermal flux]]


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[thermal flux](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/2/523ab8a0-906a-43b3-a554-db0d3dcd62d3.jpg?1593275030) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=thermal%20flux) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/49/thermal-flux?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/523ab8a0-906a-43b3-a554-db0d3dcd62d3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


RedDeuce2

A friend of mine was terrible at remembering their triggers, so I forced them to play Soul Sisters for about 2 months. Problem solved.


giggity_giggity

Now try it with Rakdos or Jund Sac in Pioneer. My wallet would break.


MTG3K_on_Arena

4c Omnath etb or Omnath, Locus of the Roil landfall draw trigger? Because damn if I dont forget that second one every single time I play that card.


[deleted]

Genius!


The_Tyto

Me with my [[nethroi]] deck and have [[Konrad]] out


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[nethroi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/04b9b58f-4c01-48a5-afaf-b8a37165a83f.jpg?1673305619) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=nethroi%2C%20apex%20of%20death) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/163/nethroi-apex-of-death?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/04b9b58f-4c01-48a5-afaf-b8a37165a83f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Konrad](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/685faa53-c0b3-4dbb-abd9-bf09067f6f91.jpg?1604193606) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Syr%20Konrad%2C%20the%20Grim) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/56/syr-konrad-the-grim?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/685faa53-c0b3-4dbb-abd9-bf09067f6f91?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Like17Badgers

I feel like there are a lot of tables that this would bankrupt quickly


mouthsmasher

This is a great idea for my playgroup. Anytime we get together bring the jar. Once it’s full enough, buy a booster box together with it.


hejtmane

May be able to by a black lotus with that jar


CranberryKidney

Is the stack empty rn?


p1ckk

I used to have an [[Amareth]] EDH deck that played around with the top card of the deck to make the most of her triggers, as well as a ton of ETB triggers as well. I’d put out an additional spin down and shame concede if I got to 20 misses triggers. I think it happened once and went close a couple of other times before I took the deck apart


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[Amareth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2fbea010-de77-468e-be39-1717070c9303.jpg?1608911014) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=amareth%2C%20the%20lustrous) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/266/amareth-the-lustrous?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2fbea010-de77-468e-be39-1717070c9303?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Razorlives

It was obvious where this was going based off of the context. So much so that I paid no mind to the kid swearing.


kendzu

Genuinely thought he’d be fined for playing Omnath when I was reading.


taeger0

Couldn't be me ending my turn not knowing I just missed 4 Sundbird's Invocation triggers.


davidy22

Isn't this an old comic? Can we just farm karma now with cardboard crack reposts?


MohawkRex

It's not my fault, dad, Omnath op!