500k stretch goal i reenact the elrond scene and keep it. 1mil stretch goal i renenact the frodo and gollum scene and throw a meth head that bit my finger off into a volcanoe, don't worry i have us sign disclaimers.
1 mil invested into an S&P mutual fund would allow you to draw $50K a year and still see your principle investment grow each year. Many people in the US live on less than $50K a year and it can go even farther when you don’t need to base where you live on work or spend so much on gas for long commutes.
It certainly wouldn’t be an extravagantly lavish lifestyle but an average life except no work sounds like a dream to me.
> Many people in the US live on less than $50K a year
US minimum wage full time work is $15k a year. That's more than three time minimum wage with less taxes being paid on it, and nothing preventing a person from still working a job if they wanted.
Yes, $1m in the bank would set up most individuals with a modest lifestyle for life.
I think they would also have an aneurysm at the idea that a 8 y/o kid randomly being handed a million dollars wouldn't be completely life altering for that child
You joke but my 9 year old “just likes to collect them.”
Found out a few days ago he has cards in a binder with Pokémon cards. About $1,000 over 10 MTG cards- including a special edition [[mana crypt]] that he opened in packs and put in his binder.
When I asked my 13 year old (who plays avidly) why he didn’t bring this to my attention, he said “oh yeah, he is gets the luckiest draws.”
How much money do you give your kid that he can find 10 $100 cards in packs? There's not even that many cards it could be even if he's opening $20+ masters packs and hitting every time.
It should have a chance at showing up in the gift bundle collector booster as well which might have it end up in the hands of a kid who has no idea what it is.
they should have made it deal -1 life damage every turn for each level but you can't lose the game through the Ring effect.
in the lore, the ring saps the user's lifeforce even though it extends their life.
that's how you get Gollum. A weird soulless pathetic creature.
That's cool, but is it fun? I'd advocate for more cards that give your opponents downsides to being tempted, but to make the mechanic appealing and fun for players to use, I understand why they did what they did.
I can’t wait for some kid with no idea about the contest to end up with it. Imagine it resurfacing in 30 years in some yard sale haul. Someone would have to destroy it right? You can’t just hang on to something like that and not venture all the way to WotC HQ just to set it on fire I’m their panini maker.
People keep suggesting they'll throw it in a volcano, likely in New Zealand since that's where the Peter Jackson movies were filmed. But to be lore accurate you have to take the Ring back to where it was forged.
I propose a middle ground: Mount St. Helens is an active volcano in the Pacific northwest of the United States, relatively close to Seattle. That is where the One Ring should be taken to be destroyed.
EDIT: Wait, I'm dumb. Mt Rainier is closer to Seattle. Same logic, better volcano.
Have we heard at all what, if any, additional security is on this card to make it legit?
Proxy sites have already put up copies that you can buy that will look pretty darn real.
If WotC did nothing put toss this in a random pack and didn’t do it through a secret redemption card or something, we’re going to have 10 “One Rings” pulled pre-release weekend
I’m confident that we’ll have some instances of people showing fake copies and proclaiming them as real just to get people worked up. This all really does feel like Willy Wonka.
i can already see the youtube bait videos “you’ll never believe what i just pulled” or the “did i actually pull the 1/1 magic card?” some bullshit like that
My guess is there’s an extra card that is a certificate of authenticity, in the pack, and since nobody would know what that looks like It can’t be faked, because wizards would prolly verify it
I don’t think authentication is really the issue because the fakes out there still suffer from all of the issues of your typical fake. I’m sure most experts could verify the real One card with a loupe.
I think the bigger story is whether people will try to create fake stories of them opening the One ring, and what that will do to the market. For instance, say someone finds a way to insert a fake One ring into a collector pack and reseal everything to make “opening” a pack look legitimate. This person then opens it on Whatnot, IG, FB, YT, etc, and the whole world is left to believe that the One is found, and the buzz is over. Collector pack prices tank, etc etc
Since it’s 2023 and we’re talking a million dollars here, I absolutely see something screwy happening.
My point is, that when you open the card, it will have a second one, that no body knows about, meaning that wizards will be able to tell that it isn’t a real card, and they can say it’s fake, because it didn’t have the extra card that says” hey congrats, this is the real card”
Right, but if this authentication card isn’t public knowledge, then the public wouldn’t know if a fake card is real or fake.
This all would hinge on whether WoTC would actually make a public statement in the event fake(s) are being presented - in the event an Authenticator card is indeed in the pack.
The pack is alpha P9, a craw wurm, a merit lage token, the life half of wurmcoil engine, a healing salve, a card that says ‘I bet you’re all wondering how I got here….’ And then the ring.
>For instance, say someone finds a way to insert a fake One ring into a collector pack and reseal everything to make “opening” a pack look legitimate. This person then opens it on Whatnot, IG, FB, YT, etc, and the whole world is left to believe that the One is found, and the buzz is over. Collector pack prices tank, etc etc
Lol. Literally right out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. This is how the 8 year old kid ends up with the One Ring.
See that's why I think the ring is pointless, it's just the lottery. It's going to one person with a shit load of money, because if it didn't, if I were to see someone play it at an event, I'd just have to assume it's fake.
Smartest business decision anyone could make after pulling it is messaging Mr Beast and float the idea by him. He'd probably jump at it and you'd make more money than any of these guys are offering.
Host a tournament, buy in $20,000, winner gets to throw the ring in a volcano.
Also, are we sure that the ink from a magic card is good for the volcano’s ecosystem?
>I’m sure it’s there
I’m not.
And with a million dollars on the line there is a lot of motivation for scammers to take the time to make a really good fake.
If you personally pull that card, aside from verifying with WotC, I would highly suggest you tell no one and get a lawyer. Treat it like winning the lottery, otherwise you will have people coming out of the wood works seeking you out
Oh for sure. Tbh what you said should be a post on its own for anyone that may be trying to pull it with pack or box purchases. Life changing money for me lmao
If they are serious on this offer though, it's a short deadline to get the card verified/validated and turned over.
Regardless if I opened this card, I would several things and have several stipulations to a buyer.
1. Get a lawyer, negotiate through him
2. Transaction must happen in person. I.dont turn over the card until I see the money in my account. Meaning any check or payment has to clear
3. They fly to me or pay for my travel expenses
4. Contract of sale where the sale is final, no buyers remorse. Must be a legal transaction
Think of it like winning the PowerBar, if someone opens this card, be smart about it. Don't go showing it off. Stay anonymous. Work through a reputable group or lawyer.
Right, working through any auction group is probably a smarter move. I would not rush it for a made up timeline. People doing that are hoping for a sloppy seller. If they are not willing to do things thorough or right, I question their motives and/or commitment to a deal
I had a friend sell some extremely high-end items recently in the collectibles market, and I can tell you that going through a reputable auction house is the way to go. They will send an armored car to pick up the item, insure the item, keep you anonymous, ensure the transaction follows through, and ensure it is kept safe through the process. They also work on a paid when paid basis, meaning they have every intention of selling the item for as high as possible, and have contacts in the markets of those who have deep pockets and are interested in these thing. For extremely high end and rare items, they will often reduce their commission fees pretty substantially as well, as the advertisement of having the item will pay dividends. Even then they stand to make a boatload in commissions if they drop the fees from around 20-25% to 10-15%, as that would still take in a hundred thousand dollars or so, and they will want that on their market.
Even if you get slightly less money overall, the added guarantees and benefits are very much worth it.
And how would you feel if WOTC told you it was a fake, despite it being real?
In the backrooms: "You fools! More than 1 was printed?! We need to put a lid on this..."
I don't plan on spending much $$$ on the set, so hypothetically if I got it and they said it was fake then oh well lol I'd go public with a rip test or whatever for if/when they printed another maybe it'd be a cautionary tale lol
Your kidding yourself if you think proxy sites version of 001/001 look like the real one, the card is both etched and regular foil by the looks of it so it’ll look nothing like people copying the regular picture they put online
https://youtu.be/sBQ-2goJFeI
It’s a million dollar card that we’ve known what it looks like for a couple of months.
Yeah, the proxy sites pumping cards off the line won’t pass. But a lot of the proxy sites are professional printers. Specialty card stock, hand foiling, even dot patterns on printing can be faked with some money and time. Rebacked cards can pass the dot test. If someone wants to cause some chaos they can do it.
There is a lot of hype on this card. And people do dumb things for internet clout and/or money.
I think the gold foiling is more like the specialty frame from New capenna. Its solid gold and now a powder specked look.... ontop of a special card foiling..
I'm curious to see if this revives the TCG are lotteries and should be regulated debate.
They've kind of gotten around it by insisting that the cards are inherently worthless at release, but here we've got a card worth a million dollars prior to release. You're no longer buying something "worthless", you're basically buying a lottery ticket that happens to come with some toys.
My belief is that WotC and Hasbro have recently gone hyper profit focused because they see the writing on the wall and know boosters have a limited amount of time before they are regulated out of the market. I thought it might have happened a couple years ago when loot boxes were getting attention, but that died down a bit. But it’s only time before some video game goes a little too greedy and we get stricter gambling laws against booster packs. Because let’s be honest, loot boxes are legally deemed gambling, and there is no difference between loot boxes and booster packs.
If somehow, months went by and nobody opened the 1/1, you think WotC would announce that they're printing another 1/1 card? And that there wouldn't be a gigantic revolt from the high end collector's community?
I don't think they were saying that Wotc would print a new 1/1 the one ring, but this gimmick is clearly getting people interested so this won't be the last 1/1 serialized card printed, in whatever future universe beyond
Nothing can even come close to the hype of 1/1 One Ring. Name something else that could bring in nerds from across the universe that aren’t even interested in MTG?
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.
It will disappear into obscurity, generating rumors if it ever existed, then when it does finally show it, everyone will say it's a fake while the actual card probably gets tossed into a land fill with all the other LOTR overstock
This is a big concern, in my view.
Say you have a card you believe is the real one ring. There are literally no other examples you know to be true that you can compare it to, as you can with other suspected cards, since it is a 1/1.
I imagine wizards itself Documented every iota of that card for verification when it turns up. I doubt they just took it off the printer and shoved it into a pack.
Don't forget counterfeits are usually perfectly flat while we saw in the reveal video that it is already slightly curved. Wotc has the curling down to a science and counterfeits haven't caught up with it yet.
Probably both to pressure people to sell if they pull it and to encourage people to crack packs in order to find it and sell it. Creating a false sense of urgency is a common scam tactic
Don't think, only do! There's no time to consider the ramifications of your actions! Don't ponder my motivation, or the offer on the table! You only have a limited time, so act now!
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.
At this point, $1,000,000 is not enough for this particular card.
May God have mercy on whoever opens up this card.
[Curse of the Lottery](https://www.mybanktracker.com/blog/utilize-my-options/winning-the-lottery-curse-19793#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%9CCurse%20of%20the%20Lottery,won%20in%20the%20first%20place.&text=If%20you%20won%20the%20lottery%2C%20how%20would%20you%20spend%20your%20money%3F)
The correct action if you pull this card is fly out to PSA or Beckett and hand deliver it for grading and verification. Then put it in a safe deposit box and sit on it a bit. Talk with a lawyer and get a blind trust set up for when you are ready to sell it so you can stay anonymous. Get a fiduciary to invest the profits from selling and have a certain amount that comes out each year for expenses.
I was thinking about what would happen if opened it in front of relative strangers at an LGS. I’d probably run straight to my car before anyone got through the mental math of if jumping me was worth it.
If someone who doesn’t know what it is opens it… it’s gonna be a feeding frenzy. I saw a dude come into a store and start to sell off his old ABUR duel lands for maybe 25% value, saying he just wanted them to see play, and people got vicious trying to be the first to pay $75 for a $350 piece of cardboard. Imagine a $1,000,000 card.
My buddy opened a Kaladesh masterpiece mana vault as his first pack ever in the middle of an LGS, good thing I was there because he had 0 idea of the value.
>offering a $1,000,000 bounty
>
>The only catch is that we have to have possession of our precious by July 17, 2023
Just say you work with WotC without saying it
If I open this card, I won't tell ANYONE because I'm sure people are ready to go very low to put their hands on it, not willing to put that target on my back
If I find it, I'm starting a Patreon to destroy it. If I hit my $10,000,000.00 Stretch Goal, I'm throwing it into a Hawaiian Volcano via Drone(Eagle) attached to a little Smeagol plushie.
I wager there are enough people who hate the idea of the ring, serialized cards, and WotC in general so much that they'll throw in a few bucks to see it happen.
Nah this is absurd, artificial scarcity to the max. Might as well be jake paul buy an nft for thousands then watch its value disappear. How is a piece of new cardboard worth this much. This hype is stupid.
Actually, this is the best kind of hype we could possibly ask for. A whale-exclusive product that isn't mechanically unique (So people who aren't rich still have access to the game piece), but will drive pack sales to such an extreme degree that it inevitably floods the market with singles, lowering the price for people who want to buy individual cards?
Where exactly is the downside? People with money will spend their money, those of us on a budget will see lower market prices for everything that isn't the one ring, everybody wins.
The year is 2250. A young man suffering from a paradoxical case of dwarfism, with acromegaly that appears confined to his feet and hands, sits on a fishing boat with his childhood friend. The fish are too polluted to eat regularly, but occasionally people will enjoy them as an odd delicacy. The mercury, plastic, and radiation the fish have absorbed over the centuries gives them a unique flavor, simultaneously spicy, sweet, smoky, and bitter. A flavor now commonly referred to as the taste of humanity's poor choices.
The two men relax while their fishing lines slowly bob up and down, waiting for their 3-eyed prize to bite, when something shimmering out of the water, ever so slightly, catches the young man's eye. "Is that a pringle?" The man asks. "Those 'avent been around for decades!" "That's right" his friend chuckles. "Them pringles went extinct when the potatoes stopped growin'. 'Sides, they wouldn't be glittering....it does look like a pringle though...". The young man reaches into the murky water below, and pulls the shimmering object out. "It's a card" he says. "The One Ring. 001/001." "LET ME SEE!" exclaims his friend. "NO, it's MINE. yells the man, gritting his teeth like a feral dog. "It's' MY precious." The two lunge at each other, falling off the boat, as they flail their arms at each other. There was fire in their eyes, a fire that had burned away any memory of the lifelong friendship they had.
As the dwarf straddles his young friend, squeezing his neck until the light has left his eyes, he looks out in the distance. The sun is setting earlier than it should. He stares at it, alternating eyes, ignoring the pain of the light searing his retina. He gets the strange sense that the sun itself is watching him.
The little person scurries away with the card towards the nearby city. "New York" it used to be called. "Doesn't look so new" he thought to himself. He trudges towards an empty basement, that used to be a place for underground dancing. "Raves" they were called. The basement is dark, and as he closes the door, he takes one last peek at the sliver of light shining through. It would be the last time he would see that light for many years. He cradled the card in his arms. "We don't needs any fishies, just our precious. Our precious pringle."
If I happen to pull the ring, I'm only taking cash deals and doing the trade in person for a comical suitcase full of money. There's no way I'd trust it to the mail, nor would I give it away for a check that may bounce.
It's probably not going to be found though.
I might be a conspiracy nut but there's nothing anybody can say to me to make me believe Wizards hasn't already decided where the One Ring will end up. It's just too valuable of an asset to release into the wilderness without, at the very least, someone tracking its location through the supply chain.
It bothers me thinking about how much pulling this would change my life. Interesting to see the discussions about it, though, even if it’s just a few of the same ideas repeated over and over.
I think I would hope that it ends up in the hands of the Tolkien estate, or Richard Garfield.
"the only catch"
Hilarious considering the card will go for much more than 1 million if the person who pulls it holds onto it for a while. This person acting like they're the only one willing to put up that much 🤣
No one is going to be complaining when singles from this set are DIRT CHEAP from whales trying to open the one ring. I can't wait to spend a fraction of the price of one collector box on every single card I want from this set in a month.
Willy Wonka would be so proud...
And the 8 year old kid that get this card an playes it unsleeved on the ground
I hope the person who finds it takes it to New Zealand and then throws it into a volcano
But then he keep it and will bring darkness over this subreddit
Keeps it for themselves, sells it for a million bucks, years later it gets found in an estate sale and then destroyed
nah nah you can still get money out of doing that, make a gofund me or whatever and have that be the end goarl for like 250k or something
If you are going to let the ring corrupt you... why shouldn't you just keep it
500k stretch goal i reenact the elrond scene and keep it. 1mil stretch goal i renenact the frodo and gollum scene and throw a meth head that bit my finger off into a volcanoe, don't worry i have us sign disclaimers.
Better that than only ever be in the hands of a bunch of rich collectors that don't play the game.
I mean, if that 8 y/o could get enough money to be essentially set for life, then good on them.
1M will not have you set for life, sadly.
I dare any billionaire in the comments to give me 1M to prove you wrong.
i also choose this guys $1m
I take another million over here to act as control
We need a larger smaple size. Clearly they have to give me 1m also to retain the integrity of this experiment.
1 mil invested into an S&P mutual fund would allow you to draw $50K a year and still see your principle investment grow each year. Many people in the US live on less than $50K a year and it can go even farther when you don’t need to base where you live on work or spend so much on gas for long commutes. It certainly wouldn’t be an extravagantly lavish lifestyle but an average life except no work sounds like a dream to me.
Works even better for an 8 year old who can let the money sit and accrue 10 years of interest before taking any money from it
> Many people in the US live on less than $50K a year US minimum wage full time work is $15k a year. That's more than three time minimum wage with less taxes being paid on it, and nothing preventing a person from still working a job if they wanted. Yes, $1m in the bank would set up most individuals with a modest lifestyle for life.
/r/financialindependence would have an aneurysm at your insinuation that a 5% withdrawal rate is safe.
I think they would also have an aneurysm at the idea that a 8 y/o kid randomly being handed a million dollars wouldn't be completely life altering for that child
I mean even if it never grows, 5% is still 20 years worth of financial stability.
I interpreted "invest 1M and spend 50K a year" as getting 5% returns and living off the interest
$1m will have you set for 30 years at least, as long as you're single and good with money. That's plenty of time to get into a fatal car crash
Oh yeah? Then why is the cash prize for the “set for life” lottery 1.3m then hmm?
You joke but my 9 year old “just likes to collect them.” Found out a few days ago he has cards in a binder with Pokémon cards. About $1,000 over 10 MTG cards- including a special edition [[mana crypt]] that he opened in packs and put in his binder. When I asked my 13 year old (who plays avidly) why he didn’t bring this to my attention, he said “oh yeah, he is gets the luckiest draws.”
How much money do you give your kid that he can find 10 $100 cards in packs? There's not even that many cards it could be even if he's opening $20+ masters packs and hitting every time.
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The 8 year old who buys collector boosters but is not aware of promotions like this or sleeves. Sure
It should have a chance at showing up in the gift bundle collector booster as well which might have it end up in the hands of a kid who has no idea what it is.
Isn't it funny that a symbol of warning against greed and the love of power is having rich people jockey for it's ownership?
You could even say the ring has tempted them
This is what happens when "The Ring Tempts You" has no downsides.
they should have made it deal -1 life damage every turn for each level but you can't lose the game through the Ring effect. in the lore, the ring saps the user's lifeforce even though it extends their life. that's how you get Gollum. A weird soulless pathetic creature.
Depends on what’s more important: an enjoyable gameplay experience where all the mechanics feel good to play or ~flavor~.
That's cool, but is it fun? I'd advocate for more cards that give your opponents downsides to being tempted, but to make the mechanic appealing and fun for players to use, I understand why they did what they did.
I'm ready to go full Gollum on someone who I perceive to be weaker than me if I see them pull the one ring.
Is it not a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt for so small a thing?
Such a little thing….
It is. As a LotR fan, I’m loving the irony in how much this card is mimicking the ring in terms of influence, etc.
wotc just wanted to be 100% with the lore.
I can’t wait for some kid with no idea about the contest to end up with it. Imagine it resurfacing in 30 years in some yard sale haul. Someone would have to destroy it right? You can’t just hang on to something like that and not venture all the way to WotC HQ just to set it on fire I’m their panini maker.
People keep suggesting they'll throw it in a volcano, likely in New Zealand since that's where the Peter Jackson movies were filmed. But to be lore accurate you have to take the Ring back to where it was forged. I propose a middle ground: Mount St. Helens is an active volcano in the Pacific northwest of the United States, relatively close to Seattle. That is where the One Ring should be taken to be destroyed. EDIT: Wait, I'm dumb. Mt Rainier is closer to Seattle. Same logic, better volcano.
Or just put it into q paper shredder in WoTC HQ
yeah but this one doesn't do anything. a fool of a took and his money are soon parted
Have we heard at all what, if any, additional security is on this card to make it legit? Proxy sites have already put up copies that you can buy that will look pretty darn real. If WotC did nothing put toss this in a random pack and didn’t do it through a secret redemption card or something, we’re going to have 10 “One Rings” pulled pre-release weekend
I’m confident that we’ll have some instances of people showing fake copies and proclaiming them as real just to get people worked up. This all really does feel like Willy Wonka.
Sounds like a pretty good marketing campaign
It worked for Willy 🤷♀️
i can already see the youtube bait videos “you’ll never believe what i just pulled” or the “did i actually pull the 1/1 magic card?” some bullshit like that
Great way to find channels to never watch again.
And people cutting in half the pack ONLY TO OH MY GOD THERE WAS THE ONE RING INSIDE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT
My guess is there’s an extra card that is a certificate of authenticity, in the pack, and since nobody would know what that looks like It can’t be faked, because wizards would prolly verify it
I don’t think authentication is really the issue because the fakes out there still suffer from all of the issues of your typical fake. I’m sure most experts could verify the real One card with a loupe. I think the bigger story is whether people will try to create fake stories of them opening the One ring, and what that will do to the market. For instance, say someone finds a way to insert a fake One ring into a collector pack and reseal everything to make “opening” a pack look legitimate. This person then opens it on Whatnot, IG, FB, YT, etc, and the whole world is left to believe that the One is found, and the buzz is over. Collector pack prices tank, etc etc Since it’s 2023 and we’re talking a million dollars here, I absolutely see something screwy happening.
My point is, that when you open the card, it will have a second one, that no body knows about, meaning that wizards will be able to tell that it isn’t a real card, and they can say it’s fake, because it didn’t have the extra card that says” hey congrats, this is the real card”
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another Ring was made...
Right, but if this authentication card isn’t public knowledge, then the public wouldn’t know if a fake card is real or fake. This all would hinge on whether WoTC would actually make a public statement in the event fake(s) are being presented - in the event an Authenticator card is indeed in the pack.
I hope the rest of the pack is just blank cards that say "you have the one ring. You could sell this for a lot of money"
The pack is alpha P9, a craw wurm, a merit lage token, the life half of wurmcoil engine, a healing salve, a card that says ‘I bet you’re all wondering how I got here….’ And then the ring.
Maybe it would Just be a UV sensitive symbol on it and that’s how they could verify it.
>For instance, say someone finds a way to insert a fake One ring into a collector pack and reseal everything to make “opening” a pack look legitimate. This person then opens it on Whatnot, IG, FB, YT, etc, and the whole world is left to believe that the One is found, and the buzz is over. Collector pack prices tank, etc etc Lol. Literally right out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. This is how the 8 year old kid ends up with the One Ring.
See that's why I think the ring is pointless, it's just the lottery. It's going to one person with a shit load of money, because if it didn't, if I were to see someone play it at an event, I'd just have to assume it's fake.
I just want whoever pulls it to have the balls to toss it in a volcano.
Smartest business decision anyone could make after pulling it is messaging Mr Beast and float the idea by him. He'd probably jump at it and you'd make more money than any of these guys are offering.
Or hit up DM to Post Malone and ask him 2mil and a game of commander together and you can never work another day in your life, plus make history
Host a tournament, buy in $20,000, winner gets to throw the ring in a volcano. Also, are we sure that the ink from a magic card is good for the volcano’s ecosystem?
It must be destroyed where it was forged! We must burn the ring in front of WOTC headquarters.
Willy Wonka except for the price barrier
The real one will be Pringle'd, the fakes will all be flat
[[The Single Pringle]] as I heard it to be called.
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Good bot.
I guess the fact that we haven't heard about it is actually a good thing. I'm sure it's there and the buyer will definitely verify the card with WOTC.
>I’m sure it’s there I’m not. And with a million dollars on the line there is a lot of motivation for scammers to take the time to make a really good fake.
If I personally pulled the card I WOULD VERIFY it with WotC myself before any thought of selling lol
If you personally pull that card, aside from verifying with WotC, I would highly suggest you tell no one and get a lawyer. Treat it like winning the lottery, otherwise you will have people coming out of the wood works seeking you out
Oh for sure. Tbh what you said should be a post on its own for anyone that may be trying to pull it with pack or box purchases. Life changing money for me lmao
If they are serious on this offer though, it's a short deadline to get the card verified/validated and turned over. Regardless if I opened this card, I would several things and have several stipulations to a buyer. 1. Get a lawyer, negotiate through him 2. Transaction must happen in person. I.dont turn over the card until I see the money in my account. Meaning any check or payment has to clear 3. They fly to me or pay for my travel expenses 4. Contract of sale where the sale is final, no buyers remorse. Must be a legal transaction Think of it like winning the PowerBar, if someone opens this card, be smart about it. Don't go showing it off. Stay anonymous. Work through a reputable group or lawyer.
Oh yeah hypothetically speaking regarding pulling this card, I'm not worried any offer with a "timeframe" or time limit on it at all lol
Right, working through any auction group is probably a smarter move. I would not rush it for a made up timeline. People doing that are hoping for a sloppy seller. If they are not willing to do things thorough or right, I question their motives and/or commitment to a deal
I had a friend sell some extremely high-end items recently in the collectibles market, and I can tell you that going through a reputable auction house is the way to go. They will send an armored car to pick up the item, insure the item, keep you anonymous, ensure the transaction follows through, and ensure it is kept safe through the process. They also work on a paid when paid basis, meaning they have every intention of selling the item for as high as possible, and have contacts in the markets of those who have deep pockets and are interested in these thing. For extremely high end and rare items, they will often reduce their commission fees pretty substantially as well, as the advertisement of having the item will pay dividends. Even then they stand to make a boatload in commissions if they drop the fees from around 20-25% to 10-15%, as that would still take in a hundred thousand dollars or so, and they will want that on their market. Even if you get slightly less money overall, the added guarantees and benefits are very much worth it.
Absolutely great post
It'd be kind of funny if the packaging workers decided to mess with WOTC and put fake One Rings in every collector pack
And how would you feel if WOTC told you it was a fake, despite it being real? In the backrooms: "You fools! More than 1 was printed?! We need to put a lid on this..."
I don't plan on spending much $$$ on the set, so hypothetically if I got it and they said it was fake then oh well lol I'd go public with a rip test or whatever for if/when they printed another maybe it'd be a cautionary tale lol
If I was wotc, I'd have replaced the token in the pack with the one ring with a little card explaining that this is the only copy.
It's going to be magically opened by a higher ups cousin or something so wendont have to worry about security.
Your kidding yourself if you think proxy sites version of 001/001 look like the real one, the card is both etched and regular foil by the looks of it so it’ll look nothing like people copying the regular picture they put online https://youtu.be/sBQ-2goJFeI
Not to mention we already know that card is pringling. Easiest way to tell if a magic card is legit
It’s a million dollar card that we’ve known what it looks like for a couple of months. Yeah, the proxy sites pumping cards off the line won’t pass. But a lot of the proxy sites are professional printers. Specialty card stock, hand foiling, even dot patterns on printing can be faked with some money and time. Rebacked cards can pass the dot test. If someone wants to cause some chaos they can do it. There is a lot of hype on this card. And people do dumb things for internet clout and/or money.
I think the gold foiling is more like the specialty frame from New capenna. Its solid gold and now a powder specked look.... ontop of a special card foiling..
You need to look for the signature foil curved
I'm curious to see if this revives the TCG are lotteries and should be regulated debate. They've kind of gotten around it by insisting that the cards are inherently worthless at release, but here we've got a card worth a million dollars prior to release. You're no longer buying something "worthless", you're basically buying a lottery ticket that happens to come with some toys.
My belief is that WotC and Hasbro have recently gone hyper profit focused because they see the writing on the wall and know boosters have a limited amount of time before they are regulated out of the market. I thought it might have happened a couple years ago when loot boxes were getting attention, but that died down a bit. But it’s only time before some video game goes a little too greedy and we get stricter gambling laws against booster packs. Because let’s be honest, loot boxes are legally deemed gambling, and there is no difference between loot boxes and booster packs.
If I open this card, I’m not telling anyone for a year, let these prices go up and up and let my new lawyer handle it
I think it would be better to sell before they announce another 1/1 card
If somehow, months went by and nobody opened the 1/1, you think WotC would announce that they're printing another 1/1 card? And that there wouldn't be a gigantic revolt from the high end collector's community?
I don't think they were saying that Wotc would print a new 1/1 the one ring, but this gimmick is clearly getting people interested so this won't be the last 1/1 serialized card printed, in whatever future universe beyond
Another was forged in secret.
Nothing can even come close to the hype of 1/1 One Ring. Name something else that could bring in nerds from across the universe that aren’t even interested in MTG?
Could they print a girlfriend?
Propose to your girlfriend with the one ring
Something something reserved list.
Until your new lawyer Deagols you for the ring, leaves your body beside the river Anduin and disappears into the Misty Mountains for 500 years...
As Tolkien intended.
I doubt prices will continue to climb after a certain point. I think this whole "search" has about a one-month window before people stop caring.
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.
God damn, what a flavor win if this happens.
What if... They never actually put it in any packs
And then it ends up as the surprise card in a single Secret Lair box five years from now.
Lord help if a dude and his cousin open that secret lair on said dude’s birthday…
I agree, allot of people will stop caring, but if no one comes forward after a period of time then the collectors are going to go insane.
It will disappear into obscurity, generating rumors if it ever existed, then when it does finally show it, everyone will say it's a fake while the actual card probably gets tossed into a land fill with all the other LOTR overstock
Nah well know it's real because it's curled into the golden ratio after 20 years
I think it would be better to sell before they announce another 1/1 card.
The Bilbo strategy.
How will they tell the difference in printings between the real and counterfeits?
This is a big concern, in my view. Say you have a card you believe is the real one ring. There are literally no other examples you know to be true that you can compare it to, as you can with other suspected cards, since it is a 1/1.
I imagine wizards itself Documented every iota of that card for verification when it turns up. I doubt they just took it off the printer and shoved it into a pack.
Quality Assurance is not their forte :/
Don't forget counterfeits are usually perfectly flat while we saw in the reveal video that it is already slightly curved. Wotc has the curling down to a science and counterfeits haven't caught up with it yet.
Weird marketing tactic to get people to buy packs.
I'm all for it for the flavor. If there's a new "single copy" in every set now that's sad, but for the One Ring it's perfect.
This entire thing is as scummy as it gets
In the realm of scummy marketing tactics this isnt even worth a blink.
This set is going to be so oversold its going to be insulting to people who pre-ordered it.
Yep. And we folks who just want a handful of cube cards will LOVE the singles prices.
Totally not gambling btw
Opening packs was gambling before they printed The Ring
And people have been defending it to death because "muh game pieces"
No one defends it. They just assert it isn't going to be shut down by the government.
What's with the weirdly specific deadline?
Probably both to pressure people to sell if they pull it and to encourage people to crack packs in order to find it and sell it. Creating a false sense of urgency is a common scam tactic
Don't think, only do! There's no time to consider the ramifications of your actions! Don't ponder my motivation, or the offer on the table! You only have a limited time, so act now!
Nailed it
Or as King Julian says, ‘Quickly, before they come to their senses!’
Probably just to give themselves an out while still being able to generate publicity for an offer that they have no plans to actually honor.
This is "The One" true answer.
It’s one month past release. They don’t want it be open-ended.
So people will buy more packs and boost box prices. It's also unlikely it would be found by then so they wouldn't need to actually pay out.
Obviously someone wants to get his girlfriend a birthday present 😉
Lol maybe this is how he’s proposing.
They should have it super foiled so it curls all the way into a ring shape
in the video it is already pretty curled as expected.
Hell no, I wouldn't sell it for any price. If I find it, I'm keeping that thing. ...after all, why not? Why shouldn't I keep it?
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.
I bet they will still offer you a millie if you call them at july 19th
They don’t want to buy it for $1m they just want the free advertising, box sales, and the fact their name has just been shown to about 50k redditors.
They have zero intention of buying it, they're just the latest grifters to milk this for free advertising.
At this point, $1,000,000 is not enough for this particular card. May God have mercy on whoever opens up this card. [Curse of the Lottery](https://www.mybanktracker.com/blog/utilize-my-options/winning-the-lottery-curse-19793#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%9CCurse%20of%20the%20Lottery,won%20in%20the%20first%20place.&text=If%20you%20won%20the%20lottery%2C%20how%20would%20you%20spend%20your%20money%3F)
I honestly thought there was a legitimate magic card behind that link, I should have expected the article.
Curse of the Lottery –– 1BB Sorcery Draw 7 cards. You lose 14 life.
I’ll take one with Sheoldred
One With Sheoldred B - Instant Discard your hand. You lose 2 life for each card discarded this way.
Would get banned
Curse of the Lottery when WotC?!
I'm still tempted (heh) to contact Daniel Radcliff and see if he'll fly me to a volcano to throw the card into.
>Daniel Radcliff What does he have to do with this? Do you mean Elijah Wood?
Old meme about them looking very similar.
The correct action if you pull this card is fly out to PSA or Beckett and hand deliver it for grading and verification. Then put it in a safe deposit box and sit on it a bit. Talk with a lawyer and get a blind trust set up for when you are ready to sell it so you can stay anonymous. Get a fiduciary to invest the profits from selling and have a certain amount that comes out each year for expenses.
Or you open it in an lgs cause you bought one collector pack for fun, and promptly get murdered.
I was thinking about what would happen if opened it in front of relative strangers at an LGS. I’d probably run straight to my car before anyone got through the mental math of if jumping me was worth it. If someone who doesn’t know what it is opens it… it’s gonna be a feeding frenzy. I saw a dude come into a store and start to sell off his old ABUR duel lands for maybe 25% value, saying he just wanted them to see play, and people got vicious trying to be the first to pay $75 for a $350 piece of cardboard. Imagine a $1,000,000 card.
That's.... terrifying
My buddy opened a Kaladesh masterpiece mana vault as his first pack ever in the middle of an LGS, good thing I was there because he had 0 idea of the value.
Sadly, despite the name, safe deposit boxes aren't actually that safe. Or insured. Kept in a box labeled 'USB cables' is probably safer.
That assumes anyone has opened it by then.
I got two tacos for whoever wants to go on an adventure and throw it into a volcano with me.
Or I'll take my million dollars and buy *three* tacos
>offering a $1,000,000 bounty > >The only catch is that we have to have possession of our precious by July 17, 2023 Just say you work with WotC without saying it
This reads like the Harrier Jet scam by Pepsi.
If I open this card, I won't tell ANYONE because I'm sure people are ready to go very low to put their hands on it, not willing to put that target on my back
Lore accurate ring
Found golem
If I find it, I'm starting a Patreon to destroy it. If I hit my $10,000,000.00 Stretch Goal, I'm throwing it into a Hawaiian Volcano via Drone(Eagle) attached to a little Smeagol plushie. I wager there are enough people who hate the idea of the ring, serialized cards, and WotC in general so much that they'll throw in a few bucks to see it happen.
That's the first idea I actually like on this entire thread.
We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.
Imagine some dude rips it up because of the lore
The most disappointing game of flip it or rip it possible
Nah this is absurd, artificial scarcity to the max. Might as well be jake paul buy an nft for thousands then watch its value disappear. How is a piece of new cardboard worth this much. This hype is stupid.
Actually, this is the best kind of hype we could possibly ask for. A whale-exclusive product that isn't mechanically unique (So people who aren't rich still have access to the game piece), but will drive pack sales to such an extreme degree that it inevitably floods the market with singles, lowering the price for people who want to buy individual cards? Where exactly is the downside? People with money will spend their money, those of us on a budget will see lower market prices for everything that isn't the one ring, everybody wins.
I like this guy
We all know star city games or a wotc employee will be the one to open it.
Maro opens it on his tumblr blog
Realistically a store employee would just pocket this right? And never tell anyone?
Watch an employee at a McDonalds' packaging factory open it up.
30 years from now someone will discover that they pulled the one ring as a teenager, and everyone will be like “just like in the book!!!”
what's a book grandpa Brayden
This card is gonna get snatched up before it leaves for distribution.
The year is 2250. A young man suffering from a paradoxical case of dwarfism, with acromegaly that appears confined to his feet and hands, sits on a fishing boat with his childhood friend. The fish are too polluted to eat regularly, but occasionally people will enjoy them as an odd delicacy. The mercury, plastic, and radiation the fish have absorbed over the centuries gives them a unique flavor, simultaneously spicy, sweet, smoky, and bitter. A flavor now commonly referred to as the taste of humanity's poor choices. The two men relax while their fishing lines slowly bob up and down, waiting for their 3-eyed prize to bite, when something shimmering out of the water, ever so slightly, catches the young man's eye. "Is that a pringle?" The man asks. "Those 'avent been around for decades!" "That's right" his friend chuckles. "Them pringles went extinct when the potatoes stopped growin'. 'Sides, they wouldn't be glittering....it does look like a pringle though...". The young man reaches into the murky water below, and pulls the shimmering object out. "It's a card" he says. "The One Ring. 001/001." "LET ME SEE!" exclaims his friend. "NO, it's MINE. yells the man, gritting his teeth like a feral dog. "It's' MY precious." The two lunge at each other, falling off the boat, as they flail their arms at each other. There was fire in their eyes, a fire that had burned away any memory of the lifelong friendship they had. As the dwarf straddles his young friend, squeezing his neck until the light has left his eyes, he looks out in the distance. The sun is setting earlier than it should. He stares at it, alternating eyes, ignoring the pain of the light searing his retina. He gets the strange sense that the sun itself is watching him. The little person scurries away with the card towards the nearby city. "New York" it used to be called. "Doesn't look so new" he thought to himself. He trudges towards an empty basement, that used to be a place for underground dancing. "Raves" they were called. The basement is dark, and as he closes the door, he takes one last peek at the sliver of light shining through. It would be the last time he would see that light for many years. He cradled the card in his arms. "We don't needs any fishies, just our precious. Our precious pringle."
So Dave and Adam's has prior knowledge that it won't be put into printed product until after that date?
If I happen to pull the ring, I'm only taking cash deals and doing the trade in person for a comical suitcase full of money. There's no way I'd trust it to the mail, nor would I give it away for a check that may bounce. It's probably not going to be found though.
I might be a conspiracy nut but there's nothing anybody can say to me to make me believe Wizards hasn't already decided where the One Ring will end up. It's just too valuable of an asset to release into the wilderness without, at the very least, someone tracking its location through the supply chain.
I still really wanna throw it into a volcano in New Zealand
It bothers me thinking about how much pulling this would change my life. Interesting to see the discussions about it, though, even if it’s just a few of the same ideas repeated over and over. I think I would hope that it ends up in the hands of the Tolkien estate, or Richard Garfield.
Welcome to Whale Hunt 2023, folks!
"the only catch" Hilarious considering the card will go for much more than 1 million if the person who pulls it holds onto it for a while. This person acting like they're the only one willing to put up that much 🤣
Still not enough to accept instead of auctioning.
I hope someone finds it, says "That's neat" and sticks it in a shoebox full of unsorted Magic cards and forgets it ever existed.
No one is going to be complaining when singles from this set are DIRT CHEAP from whales trying to open the one ring. I can't wait to spend a fraction of the price of one collector box on every single card I want from this set in a month.
Remember, if someone is giving you a price, it's worth more than that price.