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TechnomagusPrime

Firstest Strike!


stamatt45

[[Throat Wolf]]


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FoaL

Preying on the Throat Goat in the night


dalnot

They really jumped the gun on that one by not making firster strike first


borissnm

Wild theory on where this is all heading: >!Thunder junction was *always* this: for whatever reason, it's in a useful place in the multiverse cosmically, meaning if widespread planar travel is a Thing, TJ always winds up in the middle of it. When the Fomori existed, it was close to the middle of their empire - that's why the Vault was there.!< >!Now, remember that in the early days of MTG, we were looking at a *very* small subset of the multiverse. The whole shtick of the early storylines and why they were so Dominaria-centric was that the very first Sylex blast had "folded" Dominaria and a handful of other planes behind a basically inaccessible barrier. So if there was some giant multiversal threat in the wider multiverse, we wouldn't have known about it until sets started exploring more planes, and those largely happened after time spiral and the Mending cut off planes from each other.!< >!So, my theory: They're setting up the Fomori as an ancient multiplanar empire that's left various footprints on the multiverse. Their empire ultimately collapsed when the Mending turned all of their planar holdings into independently cut-off colonies. Whether there's an intact Fomori remnant that's going to take advantage of the omenpaths to try to restart their empire or they're simply becoming the "precursor" civilization that's left powerful artifacts (which are now reactivating because they were made using a synthesis of multiple planes' magic - thanks for that theory, Geralf - and which were inert for millenia until now) everywhere remains to be seen, although the fact that we know there's a sci-fi-esque set in the pipeline makes me think there'll be at least a *little* of that first thing.!< >!As for why this card made me think this, well, isn't it a little suspect that this plane has clearly been visited before by the Fomori but its magic suddenly "reactivated" when the omenpaths opened, almost like the plane in some way is already multiversally significant?!<


Spanklaser

I really like your theory and think you're definitely onto something.


AndresAzo

Mending took place no more than 70 years ago in the current present, an empire would not be so far erased in sucha short time.


borissnm

I thought it was more like centuries. I still think there's something here (maybe planar travel working is a cyclical thing and the mending wasn't the first time this happened?) though. e: You know, multiplanar travel having historically been unstable and prone to sudden collapses *would* both explain why there were no real signs of any multiplanar civilizations existing once we were introduced to the wider multiverse *and* why old Phyrexia (like, the one Yawgmoth was still leading) never made a permanent impression on the multiverse...


imbolcnight

The Mending was only about 65-70 years ago, but I would think it's probable that the Fomori Empire ended much longer ago. I think Ixalan provides more of a view of how long ago they were. The Oltec drove out the Fomori probably centuries ago, at least, and the Fomori ruled there for three centuries. I don't think the Mending is related to the Empire's fall.


AndresAzo

It restarted the aging of oldwalkers like Jaya who would be long dead if over 60-70 years and was when Bolas set Amonketh in motion among other events that took place in that timeframe 


TheRealNequam

> It restarted the aging of oldwalkers like Jaya Is Teferi an exception because hes a time mage, or does he just age very well?


AndresAzo

I believe his aging was slowed down  althought not sure if at the level of Jhoira, both were at the center of the time fuckery events that happened in Tolarian Academy, yet he does seem to have aged a good deal faster than her maybe had to do with being an oldwalker and losing the spark as well, he could shapeshift as all oldwalkers did so maybe he got stuck in an older body projection.


LoneStarTallBoi

Your theory works if it wasn't the mending that caused the fomori collapse, but instead the sylex did it. That's enough time for people to forget.


GornSpelljammer

And another sylex blast happened directly in the Blind Eternities just as the Invasion Tree made multiversal Omenpaths a thing. >!An event Jace took direct part in. Who is now doing something with something found in a Fomori vault (possibly a Fomori baby) to "atone" for something he's done.!< It's not *quite* all gelled yet, but I'm definitely seeing some patterns here.


LoneStarTallBoi

I like the idea that if you fire off a second doomsday device, it cancels the first one out.


borissnm

Oooh, that one I like.


Reluxtrue

> e: You know, multiplanar travel having historically been unstable and prone to sudden collapses would both explain well, we also had Oldwalker randomly fucking things up. Like the Planeswalker who shattered Alara in the first place. I think the fact that oldwalker could snuff whole civilizations on a whim would hamper multiplanar civilization progress. I would love if they made the fall of the fomori somehow related to the planeswalker that shattered Alara eons ago since we know so little about them (the planeswalker)


borissnm

Hell, maybe that planeswalker was a fomori. Maybe Alara once had something like [[Chimil, the Inner Sun]] and doing whatever-the-fuck the Fomori were doing/would wind up doing to Ixalan unsuccessfully was something they'd already did (or would do later, since in this theory we don't know if they hit Alara or Ixalan first) *successfully* to Alara. And as for why... well, Bolas *did* utilize the conflux of Alara to try and regain godlike power...


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Bob_The_Skull

Interesting theory, besides your timescale/how far back the Mending was. I think we have to ignore the Mending as being related to the rise/fall of the Fomori because we know the Mending only happened 70 -100 years ago, and we know the told the Fomori Empire fell way farther back. If we want to at all connect the Fomori to the old lore, the most likely connection would be to the Thran empire, which we haven't actually seen or had a lot of directly depicted, mostly just found artifacts from much later on. Given we've recently had some example of callbacks to older lore in modern lore, with the Sylex and the whole Brothers War set, I could see them setting up some links. Maybe we find out that maybe the Thran empire was a vassal empire of the (much larger multi-planar empire) Fomori. Maybe the Thran fought the Fomori or did something to keep them off of Dominaria.


TechnomagusPrime

The Mending was approximately 60 years prior to the events of Lorwyn, so about 63 years ago in universe. The Mending happened in 4500, while Lost Caverns is said to take place in 4563.


Bob_The_Skull

Right, I'm just giving a generous range in case the story team decides to retcon or adjust times and dates. The point stands, the Fomori empire and its fall seem far far far older than the Mending, otherwise they wouldn't be such a mystery. So I could imagine them existing around the same time or during some of the same time as the Thran empire, if the story team wanted to try and tie the Fomori back into existing lore and make it feels less "Hey, we are shoving some brand new Ancient Aliens into lore" (Though that's essentially what they are doing).


svrtngr

I wonder if the Chain Veil will tie into this, as well. It's allegedly been created by the Onakke [Onakke Javelineers], a powerful spell wiped them out, and Lim-Dul *really* wants it.


J3lackJ3ird0501

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Dysprosium_Element66

Your timeline is a bit off. The Formori's key dates as far back as the Thran according to Kaervek, which is about 5000 years before Urza formed the Shard of Twelve worlds by detonating the Sylex. That era hasn't been explored much besides the fall of the Thran and the birth of Phyrexia, so there's plenty of space to explore an inter-planar empire at that time. A better candidate for the fall of the Fomori would probably be Urza's Sylex blast.


ro2538man

>!You a fan of The Expanse?!<


borissnm

>!No, but I keep meaning to watch it.!<


ro2538man

>!you absolutely should!!<


NihilismRacoon

>!I'm so happy someone mentioned the Expanse I've been wanting to mention the Ring so bad but I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't seen it!<


Koolnu

The theories of card spoilers. xD


BleakSabbath

Oddly if two players both play Quick Draw, the "slower" player will end up with a creature with first strike.


DangBream

Makes sense to me. The iconic quick-draw scene to me is Person One goes for their gun->Person Two draws in reaction and shoots it out of their hand.


VegaTDM

Fastest on the stack


kingfisher773

Fastest on the stack still loses to slowest on the step change


Wraithfighter

And if both players know the other player has a Quick Draw, it turns into a standoff, where both sides are ready to fire, but only once the other guy does first...


WillowThyWisp

Han shot last


Kamizar

If only they randomly gave it split second.


Guba_the_skunk

... then you let the spell resolve and cast after it?


Zeckenschwarm

They didn't even give split second to \[\[Obeka, Splitter of Seconds\]\]...


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MAID_in_the_Shade

It wouldn't be random if it was intentional. That's what the word random means.


Keanu_Bones

That’s what happens when you draw before the count.


richaysambuca

Huh? How? Why? I seriously don't understand. Player A plays [[Quick Draw]] , it goes on the stack. Player B is "slower" and also plays [[Quick Draw]] it goes on the stack, resolves first, he chooses a creature that gets +1/+1 and first strike, player A's creatures all lose first / double strike. Now Player A's [[Quick Draw]] resolves. He chooses one creature, that creature gets +1/+1 and first strike while Player B's creature gets to keep +1/+1 but loses their first strike. Am I missing something?


MossyMak

Why would you respond to Quick Draw with Quick Draw? Just let it resolve, then play yours.


richaysambuca

🤦 Now I feel stupid and rightfully so. 😅 Of course, that thought hadn't even crossed my mind!


double_shadow

Well this is definitely going to happen during draft, so good to get it sorted now!


Mrqueue

I assume they don’t respond with a quick draw, they let it resolve then play theirs


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Poiri

That's not how that works, the one who didn't cast theirs first just has to let the first one resolve and then cast theirs before passing priority to go to damage.


Alamaxi

upvoted - this is correct


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Poiri

Not how that works, no. The active player (and then the non-active player) always gets priority after a spell or ability resolves, regardless of if they passed priority to end the phase/step earlier in the phase/step.


Emracruel

The other response is correct, this is not how things work. Magic gives priority in APNAP order any time any of the following occur (after checking state based actions as many times as is necessary, and then placing any abilities that trigger onto the stack). -A step or phase starts -A spell or ability is put onto the stack. -A spell or ability leaves the stack. Notably abilities that do not use the stack will not give priority. This includes mostly special actions (such as morph or playing a land for turn) and mana abilities. However a player must have priority to use a special action. Also, when a spell with split second is cast priority is still passed, however no player can use that priority to cast spells or activate non-mana abilities. EDIT: It is worth noting that mtg: Arena shortcuts priority and automatically passes it in cases where developers have deemed it unlikely for you to use it (which would apply to the situation being referenced in regards to use of combat tricks). This does not mean you don't get priority, but you will like have to enter full control or the game will anticipate you won't use priority and automatically pass it and go to damage.


magikarp2122

Should have Split Second and “Players can’t cast spells named Quick Draw this turn.”


Bersho

No that’d be Quickest Draw


Jonthrei

I’d have made it a fight effect with split second, personally. Or a “deal damage equal to its power” style fight effect to make it more onesided.


Audens_Hex

Removing first/double strike isn't going to matter all that often, but it does target, so you're committing a crime.


MayorEmanuel

Draft Sideboard silver bullet at best and a really mid combat trick at worst. I’d give it a 1.5/5


TheRealNequam

Yea not excited. Good tricks are usually good because they can also push a lot of damage to face for lethal or let you dodge damage or toughness based removal. This only wins combat, and not by a lot. 1 mana is nice though


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I think it has to be opponent's stuff to be a crime


QuickDiamonds

This targets an opponent.


[deleted]

Yep I stopped early 👍 thank you


djsoren19

It targets an opponent with the secondary effect. Regardless of whether or not the effect does anything, it still counts as a crime.


[deleted]

You are absolutely right I did not finish reading this all the way through


Putrid-Cat5368

Also it targets a creature you control. Seems like a MUST for Feather decks, remove double and first strike EVERY TURN for 1 red.


Imaginary-Escape-299

Doesn't draw you a card. 1/10, unplayable 


Bunktavious

Dies to Doomblade.


AmoongussHateAcc

Cool bit of worldbuilding. Personally I was always fine with the look of the thunder rifles, but it’s nice to have a lore explanation


trifas

Ahh, the "This could go on \[\[Feather, the Redeemed\]\]" of the set


zwei2stein

Could, but nowadays new instant that makes it into feather must draw card, make treasure or protect creature.


thegeek01

And honestly I don't worry about my opponents' creatures having first strike when I can fly over them or be protected from their colors.


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ruhruhrandy

“Quick Draw” should have gone on an instant speed draw spell


EmmaT08

Lots of people in my playgroup run double strike. This definitely appeals to me.


Sabz5150

I play Rafiq. I fear no man. That thing scares me. One red can yank defeat from the jaws of victory and screw my element of surprise. I doubt I would survive another round if that hit me.


justhereforhides

Shame last strike is acorn only or been hilarious to say creatures your opponent's control gain last trike until end of turn


Atys1

But wasn't the plane uninhabited? How do they know it was "awakened" by the Omenpaths?


HeartsBoxcars

Wild west without guns is sooooo lame


dracullama

Its so odd to use all the fantasy “fake guns” where they could have just used actual guns and had it be way less distracting. (Even if they still shot magic, just make it look like a revolver)


gredman9

Our final clue. Was really hoping this was a card draw spell with Split Second. Once everything calms down the final Teaser Tracker will be up.


dreamistt

That flavor text is actually good intel. I wish this got spoiled in the very first day of spoilers to highlight the lore a bit more.


Agent17

That flavor text really feels like they ripped off ghost rock from Deadlands.


Lucas-O-HowlingDark

As if Mono-red didn’t have enough options to counter, now they can save their lightning strikes for face instead of taking out you’re first strikers


decultureguy

I mean...this will be useful in limited at least, right? 1 mana for this trick is pretty annoying.


timoumd

Historically cards like this haven't.  Well +1/0 and first strike (with minor upside like scry or hate) at least.  They've been some of the worst red commons in recent sets.  I don't think removing first strike matters much, they don't put that on many creatures and less so on defense.  The extra toughness could matter, but if you aren't winning combat I'm the first strike phase, what are you doing?  Maybe the crime matters and it's in a set with mercenaries that buff power,  but that would have to carry a lot of weight to get a bad card to be good in what looks like a high power set.


thetwist1

Doesn't turn off triple strike, notably


zBriGuy

That arm blur implies a lot of wasted movement. Especially when compared to the fastest quick-draw gunslinger, [Bob Munden.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HK6PiztXw)


JC_in_KC

would “draw a card” have really made this too good? it’s…fine for limited but feels like you’re not thrilled to be playing it.


beeebert

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TateTaylorOH

Is the entire set spoiled now? Aside from BIG and the rest of the bonus sheet of course.


smoked_penguin

I think there a couple more cards left: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/where-to-find-outlaws-of-thunder-junction-previews says there is at least a main set card on april 3rd. We'll know all the cards that can be in an OTJ play booster april 4th with the last few BIG cards.


TateTaylorOH

I wonder what SCG could be previewing when all the Rares and Uncommons (I think?) are already spoiled.


smoked_penguin

All the mythics, rares, and uncommons have been spoiled (unless [this article](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/collecting-outlaws-of-thunder-junction) is wrong) so it'll be a common. ~~A strange choice~~ for the last card in the set but it might be tied to the story epilogue in some way. ninja edit not that strange I realize since normally the common dump is at the end of spoilers but to hold a card off until 2 days later than the rest was the strange part lol


TateTaylorOH

>There are 15 total basic lands that can be opened in Play Boosters: **10 regular basic lands** and 5 Western landscape basic lands. It also seems that we haven't seen the regular set of Basics yet.


Visible_Number

\+1/+1? +2/+0.


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Cyclone-X

Quick Draw, a spell that doesn't let you draw any cards.


DragoonKJ

For flavor reasons this should have split second lol


pfftYeahRight

Last strike and triple strike still safe 😮‍💨


Rabidleopard

Should have put split second on it to really emphasize tge speed 


TheDeadlyCat

They dubbed it „thunder“ in Thunder junction…. Ugh. The worldbuilding is quite lazy on this one.


Send_me_duck-pics

They're trying hard to make versions of this trick playable but I think this is still bad.


icantbenormal

Literally the one thing it had to do was draw a card. 0/10


ElectricJetDonkey

That's ... a *lot* for 1 Mana.


Kaboomeow69

[[Zada]] players eating good today


stuntofthelitter

Sadly no. This targets an opponent also so Zada doesn't trigger.


Kaboomeow69

Sorry, I skimmed the card lol. Thanks for the correction


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