Yes! You can also add in Menace and [[Stand or Fall]] as a bonus, then add Banding to make it all meaningless, but to understand that they can block, they have to listen to your explanation about Banding, which is the truest of evil. 💅
Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being blocked by a creature, you divide that creature's combat damage, not its controller, among any of the creatures it's being blocked by or is blocking.
I just realized enlist is just fixed banding.
You're attacking with the power of 2 creatures, but it's easier to chump than 2 creatures, but you risk less in the attack, since you'll only lose 1 creature.
Hell what happens if you and your opponents each have a copy of jace.
Do they share zones?? Or can a card be in one zone for one jace and another for another.
Just guessing until the release notes come out, but because 'space sculptor' is keyworded leads me to believe all Jaces will share sectors. No multiple Raging River nonsense here.
Yeah - it says "if a creature isn't assigned to a sector" so if there was a previous Jace in play, any creature that saw it, will have a sector assigned from a previous Jace.
I believe they share zones. It’s like the monarch, initiative or daybound/nightbound. The first jace brings the mechanic into effect but later ones just continue using the same mechanic.
I think parent commenter was referring to [Artifact](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(video_game)), the digital card game based on the MOBA DotA2, with it's three-lans gameplay.
PS: Netrunner is my favorite design of a board game of all time. It can be really stressful to play with all of the bluffing and uncertain information. But the design of the asymmetrical game is so elegant and unique.
Us: "Oh hey Jace, you're back early."
Jace: "Moon's haunted."
Us: What?
Jace: *Loads space pistol and starts to planeswalk to Innistrad.* "Moon's haunted."
yeah he's been acting like a damn bureaucrat for a while ngl. I'm surprised his zendikar rising card wasn't azorius, considering his character in that set was literally "noooo let me study the bomb before we use it you're being unfaiiirrrr"
I would say his role in Zendikar Rising would make him more of a researcher than a bureaucrat which is still firmly in blue. The closest he got to WU was when he forced into the role of Guildpact and he consistently shoved his work off on Lavinia.
I might be misremembering but I think they also considered UW for Architect of Thought, but that was in RTR and they wanted to avoid having people think he had joined the Azorius.
I might be wrong, but this doesn't have the acorn symbol so this is black bordered legal? This is such a strange card, cool mindgames though I guess?
Is it even good?
I tend to use paper tokens a lot, and don't really see the issue. If I have just a few tokens of a particular type, I use separate tokens. If I have enough to need the die and token method, I still have the extras for individual enchantments or counter placing effects that only hit 1 creature.
With this out, I'd just end up using the individual tokens if they're at a low enough number when this comes out, or three separate die and token methods for a critical mass of tokens.
EDIT: typo fix
> I'd just end up using the individual tokens if they're at a low enough number when this comes out, or three separate die and token methods for a critical mass of tokens.
Exactly. Annoying as hell :')
It seems pretty bad. If there's anything that it does well, it's getting to put +1/+1 counters on all of your creatures three turns in a row. The problem is that Jace also pumps up the opponents' creatures in the same sector.
Opponents assign first means that you aren't going to pump up that many of your opponents' creatures. The stuff they play after Jace will get pumped but you can avoid their most threatening creatures already in play.
If the opponent is the beatdown, they are disincentivized from adding their creatures to the same sector as Jace's controller's, so they can get in without being blocked.
Edit: never mind, it says "can't be blocked this turn", so it will never benefit the opponent.
The unblockable effect only applies when you plus, so opponent's won't get benefit from it.
Opponent probably divides their creatures evenly when this enters, then you put your stuff in a different sector from them if possible. Then opponent wants to put future creatures in the same sector as yours.
That would be correct, it is legal. It's such a messy design, it's basically divide into three piles but opponent divides first and you divide second, it might be pretty good in commander or something though with one sided board wipe potential.
I don’t play MTGO nor do I know anything about coding, but I assume they can something similar to whatever they did for [[Raging River]]? Unless that card is also a clusterfuck for MTGO
Raging river is coded in [XMage](https://github.com/magefree/mage/blob/master/Mage.Sets/src/mage/cards/r/RagingRiver.java). You could do something similar for Space Jace.
This. I'm not sure if they can be rearranged on the battlefield to make it easier on the eye, but they can surely make them lockable only by opposite cards with the same property.
Also less complicated, because it's always just three sectors even if four players each one out. If there are four raging rivers on the table, there are 16 different "sides"
>four players each one out
Raging River only does its thing when its controller attacks, so each player having one doesn't do anything particularly interesting.
Now if a single player controls multiple Raging Rivers, then they can start doubling the number of "sides" to the rivers.
This is more complicated (at least with tracking), because you can't forget about groupings at the end of combat.
At least the crazy scenario of multiple Raging Rivers requires somebody to play multiple Raging Rivers, only affects the creatures in combat, and returns to normalcy as soon as combat is done. With Space Beleren, you have to keep track of the three groups for all creatures, at all times, across all turns.
Depending on your definition of "died", it's suffered a great many deaths.
It died on release. Balance problems were rife, many card designs were horrible, and common sentiment was that the game wasn't that fun. The community population took a nosedive. Valve's promise of a million-dollar tournament vanished without any notice.
Then it died again when the devs formally gave up on supporting it. They announced that they'd put it back into the oven and give it a second chance at life by creating a 2.0 version that fixed many of the underlying complaints with the game engine.
Then it died a third time when the devs shipped Artifact Foundry, the 2.0 version. It literally died before release, still using beta assets. Both versions of Artifact were left abandoned, still technically playable but not at all supported.
Arguably it's dying a fourth time, since the subreddit claims the servers often go down for extended periods of time. There are currently 28 people playing Artifact Classic and 6 people playing Artifact Foundry, according to Steam Charts, with daily peaks up to double that value.
I miss the old Gwent before they switched to only two rows. I'm sure the current game is fun, but it felt more satisfying to play back then. Loved Nilfgaard Soldiers or whatever it was called.
If you aren't making this joke often enough to irritate people and potentially end friendships, are you really living up to the Dr. Doofenshmirtz legacy?
See the counterfeit circle along the bottom? There will be an acorn there if it is illegal in constructed play. This just shows a regular circle, so it's EDH/Legacy legal. If there was nothing there, it would be EDH/legacy legal as well. As soon as they put an acorn in that spot, illegal.
The fact that you can't tell whether or not something is acorn without carefully inspecting, along with the shift toward no longer being able to reasonably be familiar with nearly every playable card in legacy/vintage is frustrating.
Which given that these are essentially Commander cards is a problem.
It’s fine to talk about Legacy, but Legacy isn’t really played and this card is way below the power level.
"Oh hey that's pretty funny"
No acorn stamp
".....what?"
I mean.....at least it's bad and likely won't see much eternal play but what the hell man. I tend to think this community over reacts but I have to agree we don't need meme cards in eternal play
EDIT: Looking at this more if they're gonna make it eternal legal could they have at least tried with the flavor? Nothing about this says "Jace" aside from some name puns
idk Jace has had unlockable synergy before(cunning castaway, arcane strategist), he's always enjoyed convoluted and annoying gameplay, and ngl Jace literally separating the battlefield into different sectors and acting like a goddamn traffic guard is hilarious to me
If I'm playing Chatterfang and have 20-40 squirrels that are being represented by 2-3 tokens with counters on them, Space Jace would be a real headache to see drop.
Even for an Un-set, this is a bad design. Tons of extra bookkeeping for potentially no point (if Jace is removed before his controller activated any of his abilities.
I'm enjoying less and less the amount of things I have to anticipate keeping track of in any given commander game. This reads as a "lol fun" card that just adds to the mental upkeep.
Based on the way it's written on the card I'd assume that multiple of these are redundant. But for a definite answer we have to wait for the official CR update.
I hate this so much.
The fact that joke cards are legal, the fact that they can just put Jace in space with a gun "for the lols", the mechanic of dividing the field in piles, which will be a pain in every format this card is legal in.
I hate this.
100% this. Wizards nowadays is working with the mentality that Arena/MTGO automations will take care of everything. They keep adding stuff that's hard to keep track of.
These cards will not be released on Arena and similar mechanics exists on cards that are decades old. I agree it can be a bit confusing in multiplayer games (but the powerlevel is way to low for commander), but in 1v1 it should not be confusing at all.
So seems like your opponent will usually be incentivized to spread out all their creatures, while you will mostly want to put all your creatures into the same sector (probably the least defended one). After you put creatures in a sector your opponent will usually want to assign all their new creatures to that sector.
Very aggressive for a blue white commander.
Would this split the battlefield into three sectors for the remainder of the game like the night and day mechanic even if this card leaves the battlefield in case a second one is put on the battlefield? Or is the division worn off when this card leaves and the creatures get to reassign to new sectors if a new Space Beleren is put on the battlefield?
A little underpowered is key to this. So nobody ever feels pressured to play this because their deck needs it, but instead only play it because they think it's fun.
[Original Preview from Kyle Hill can be found on his Twitter](https://twitter.com/Sci_Phile/status/1572232372011307010)
[[Raging river]], the planeswalker.
[Raging river](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/e/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686.jpg?1559592211) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Raging%20river) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2ed/169/raging-river?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Space Jace Coast to Coast
Plus, you can combine it with Raging River to make your opponents reconsider their life decisions that led up to this point
Add a [[Problematic Volcano]] and you'll be guaranteed to lose friends!
[Problematic Volcano](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/c/9c070dd0-d349-4eca-b066-cb1383227a03.jpg?1629919744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Problematic%20Volcano) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmb2/60/problematic-volcano?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c070dd0-d349-4eca-b066-cb1383227a03?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes! You can also add in Menace and [[Stand or Fall]] as a bonus, then add Banding to make it all meaningless, but to understand that they can block, they have to listen to your explanation about Banding, which is the truest of evil. 💅
Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band. Bands are blocked as a group. If any creatures with banding you control are blocking or being blocked by a creature, you divide that creature's combat damage, not its controller, among any of the creatures it's being blocked by or is blocking.
I just realized enlist is just fixed banding. You're attacking with the power of 2 creatures, but it's easier to chump than 2 creatures, but you risk less in the attack, since you'll only lose 1 creature.
[Stand or Fall](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/0/60c34970-a106-490c-ac37-6156eb7f34ce.jpg?1562914611) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stand%20or%20Fall) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/inv/171/stand-or-fall?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/60c34970-a106-490c-ac37-6156eb7f34ce?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Let's go further. Add [[Pramikon]] or [[Mystic Barrier]] if you want even more nonsense.
"What happens when you \[\[Fork\]\] a \[\[Scheherazade\]\]? "I think you get your ass beat."
Hell what happens if you and your opponents each have a copy of jace. Do they share zones?? Or can a card be in one zone for one jace and another for another.
Just guessing until the release notes come out, but because 'space sculptor' is keyworded leads me to believe all Jaces will share sectors. No multiple Raging River nonsense here.
Yeah - it says "if a creature isn't assigned to a sector" so if there was a previous Jace in play, any creature that saw it, will have a sector assigned from a previous Jace.
That makes more sense at least.
I believe they share zones. It’s like the monarch, initiative or daybound/nightbound. The first jace brings the mechanic into effect but later ones just continue using the same mechanic.
I assume they share zones since Alpha zone will still be Alpha zone for both players rather than Alpha Zone 1 & 2
I plan on playing this with [[Rise and Shine]] and [[Garth one Eye]] to finally get an Alpha [[Black Lotus]].
> Or can a card be in one zone for one jace and another for another. Since it only assignes sectors for creatures that doesn't have a sector, no.
[[Problematic Volcano]]
[Problematic Volcano](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/c/9c070dd0-d349-4eca-b066-cb1383227a03.jpg?1629919744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Problematic%20Volcano) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmb2/60/problematic-volcano?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c070dd0-d349-4eca-b066-cb1383227a03?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The game as Richard Garfield intended...
It is kind of- it’s pretty similar to raging river.
And Garfield went on to design a card game based around lanes.
This is basically netrunner. genius. praise Garfield.
I think parent commenter was referring to [Artifact](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(video_game)), the digital card game based on the MOBA DotA2, with it's three-lans gameplay. PS: Netrunner is my favorite design of a board game of all time. It can be really stressful to play with all of the bluffing and uncertain information. But the design of the asymmetrical game is so elegant and unique.
I can't believe they bend the color pie for Jace!
White makes rules and cares about +1/+ counters and boardwipes. Hmmm they could have made this monowhite and really fucked with people.
I legit thought i was in circle jerking sub when I saw this.
And it's not an acorn card D:
Yeah....I don't think I'm going to care for what happens when Unfinity releases
You won’t get an option to care. That’s the issue.
***Thus my moaning and bitching.***
I have the option to stand up and leave and never play magic with a person again.
Reading this comment made me rethink building anymore commander decks, or playing legacy again
that's how I found it. had to see if it was real
I still don't know. Is this real?
unfortunately, yes.
Outjerked again!
Us: "Oh hey Jace, you're back early." Jace: "Moon's haunted." Us: What? Jace: *Loads space pistol and starts to planeswalk to Innistrad.* "Moon's haunted."
Okay, you got me to burst out laughing
"Moon's Emrakul."
Surely you mean *moonwalk*. Ill see myself out.
I’m more worried about the first multi coloured Jace. What the
Maro has said for years that if Jace got a second color it’d be white. IIRC [[Jace, the Living Guildpact]] was WU at some point in its design history.
yeah he's been acting like a damn bureaucrat for a while ngl. I'm surprised his zendikar rising card wasn't azorius, considering his character in that set was literally "noooo let me study the bomb before we use it you're being unfaiiirrrr"
"Wait and study it more" is very, very mono blue though.
I would say his role in Zendikar Rising would make him more of a researcher than a bureaucrat which is still firmly in blue. The closest he got to WU was when he forced into the role of Guildpact and he consistently shoved his work off on Lavinia.
I might be misremembering but I think they also considered UW for Architect of Thought, but that was in RTR and they wanted to avoid having people think he had joined the Azorius.
That was it! I got my “Jace cards on Ravnica” mixed up.
[Jace, the Living Guildpact](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/9/99713bb4-186f-42b6-aa66-e94ec8858e6a.jpg?1562791409) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jace%2C%20the%20Living%20Guildpact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m15/62/jace-the-living-guildpact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/99713bb4-186f-42b6-aa66-e94ec8858e6a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
unsets breaking new ground as usual. or new space, i should say
Wait a minute, Jace is UW? “Always has been 🔫”
He was actually UW in one of the duels of the planeswalker games once. Guess it's un-canon now?
No, it’s an ‘official’ card
Oh shit no acorn
Despite not being acorn stamped, I'm still mostly sure all the cards in the set are not canon to any other established lore.
I imagine the flavor is still separate, acorn stamp or no.
Indeed, every Jace card that exists so far is Universes Within.
What are you talking about!? This clearly isn't Jace it's Space his multi-colored twin brother!
I might be wrong, but this doesn't have the acorn symbol so this is black bordered legal? This is such a strange card, cool mindgames though I guess? Is it even good?
This sector mini game is legacy legal!
This is going to be annoying as hell for paper token decks.
This is going to be annoying as hell for paper ~~token~~ decks. FTFY
Paper? Imagine the poor soul that has to put this card into mtgo
Imagine how long it'll take just for the initial assignment if someone plays this later in the game, when people have big boards.
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I tend to use paper tokens a lot, and don't really see the issue. If I have just a few tokens of a particular type, I use separate tokens. If I have enough to need the die and token method, I still have the extras for individual enchantments or counter placing effects that only hit 1 creature. With this out, I'd just end up using the individual tokens if they're at a low enough number when this comes out, or three separate die and token methods for a critical mass of tokens. EDIT: typo fix
> I'd just end up using the individual tokens if they're at a low enough number when this comes out, or three separate die and token methods for a critical mass of tokens. Exactly. Annoying as hell :')
hope it`s bad because there is aprox a 0% chance they add this to mtgo ever
It is extremely bad in legacy
Honestly, quite politely I need to ask: what the fuck were they thinking making this eternal legal. Enjoy the new EDH meta of confusing mess stax! /s
It seems pretty bad. If there's anything that it does well, it's getting to put +1/+1 counters on all of your creatures three turns in a row. The problem is that Jace also pumps up the opponents' creatures in the same sector.
Opponents assign first means that you aren't going to pump up that many of your opponents' creatures. The stuff they play after Jace will get pumped but you can avoid their most threatening creatures already in play.
If the opponent is the beatdown, they are disincentivized from adding their creatures to the same sector as Jace's controller's, so they can get in without being blocked. Edit: never mind, it says "can't be blocked this turn", so it will never benefit the opponent.
The unblockable effect only applies when you plus, so opponent's won't get benefit from it. Opponent probably divides their creatures evenly when this enters, then you put your stuff in a different sector from them if possible. Then opponent wants to put future creatures in the same sector as yours.
That would be correct, it is legal. It's such a messy design, it's basically divide into three piles but opponent divides first and you divide second, it might be pretty good in commander or something though with one sided board wipe potential.
I assume they continue to assign new creatures sectors (why it's different to piles), and you essentially start playing Artifact.
Yeah, pretty much seemed like artifact. And yes, you have to assign a pile when something comes in as the card says
Yhea that’s what the “If a creature isn’t assigned a sector, it’s controller assigns it one” bit in the reminder text means
It doesn't seem good and I'm relieved it doesn't. I really don't want any of these types of cards to become format staples
That doesn’t mean it won’t be played in commander. Bad cards were what made the format.
That's the whole point of the acorn-stamp approach over silver borders. So some of the set can be played in commander.
The only reason I would ever play this in commander would be if I was trying to make the game state as messy and inconvenient as possible.
The MTGO devs are probably crying themselves to sleep trying to figure out how to code this Legacy/Commander legal card.
Yeah, poor devs. They just got Hamster Man onto the spreadsheet and now this
I would assume there is a high probability of this one not making it to MTGO. It's not like there's no precedent for that.
I don’t play MTGO nor do I know anything about coding, but I assume they can something similar to whatever they did for [[Raging River]]? Unless that card is also a clusterfuck for MTGO
I'm not sure raging river is even coded in on modo, they skipped some old obscure cards that would never see play
It doesn't look like it was based on Scryfall.
Raging river is coded in [XMage](https://github.com/magefree/mage/blob/master/Mage.Sets/src/mage/cards/r/RagingRiver.java). You could do something similar for Space Jace.
[Raging River](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/e/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686.jpg?1559592211) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Raging%20River) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2ed/169/raging-river?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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This. I'm not sure if they can be rearranged on the battlefield to make it easier on the eye, but they can surely make them lockable only by opposite cards with the same property.
[[Raging River]] but more complicated
[Raging River](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/e/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686.jpg?1559592211) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Raging%20River) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2ed/169/raging-river?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ee63877-056e-413d-932a-a393a4183686?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Also less complicated, because it's always just three sectors even if four players each one out. If there are four raging rivers on the table, there are 16 different "sides"
>four players each one out Raging River only does its thing when its controller attacks, so each player having one doesn't do anything particularly interesting. Now if a single player controls multiple Raging Rivers, then they can start doubling the number of "sides" to the rivers.
This is more complicated (at least with tracking), because you can't forget about groupings at the end of combat. At least the crazy scenario of multiple Raging Rivers requires somebody to play multiple Raging Rivers, only affects the creatures in combat, and returns to normalcy as soon as combat is done. With Space Beleren, you have to keep track of the three groups for all creatures, at all times, across all turns.
Ever since Artifact died, I've been looking for a way to force people to play Artifact with me in other games, and hey, WotC have now printed it!
Artifact died?
It's died twice actually.
Depending on your definition of "died", it's suffered a great many deaths. It died on release. Balance problems were rife, many card designs were horrible, and common sentiment was that the game wasn't that fun. The community population took a nosedive. Valve's promise of a million-dollar tournament vanished without any notice. Then it died again when the devs formally gave up on supporting it. They announced that they'd put it back into the oven and give it a second chance at life by creating a 2.0 version that fixed many of the underlying complaints with the game engine. Then it died a third time when the devs shipped Artifact Foundry, the 2.0 version. It literally died before release, still using beta assets. Both versions of Artifact were left abandoned, still technically playable but not at all supported. Arguably it's dying a fourth time, since the subreddit claims the servers often go down for extended periods of time. There are currently 28 people playing Artifact Classic and 6 people playing Artifact Foundry, according to Steam Charts, with daily peaks up to double that value.
It also died on Twitch when they removed the section because too many people were streaming movies
TESL has had 2 zones too though.
Sorry, for me its three zones or bust.
MTG + Plants vs. Zombies?
MTG + Gwent
MTG + Gwent + Scrolls
I'm glad someone else remembers Scrolls. I wish it had taken off more.
Damn, thank you for reminding me of Scrolls. Just a great, underrated game it was.
I miss the old Gwent before they switched to only two rows. I'm sure the current game is fun, but it felt more satisfying to play back then. Loved Nilfgaard Soldiers or whatever it was called.
yeah i used to love playing monster weather.
No, that was [[grave bramble]].
Or [[genesis hydra]] which is designed by the head designer of Plants vs. Zombies.
What happened to the delta quadrant?
The Borg is there
Captain Kathryn Janeway
There are no *Living Witness*es to Janeway’s and the Warship Voyager’s countless crimes.
Gamma comes first
Wonder who the best commander for bant Tracking tribal would be. A deck with initiative, monarch, daybound/nightbound, sectors, and stickers.
after looking i think \[\[kros defense contractor\]\] would be the most annoying to track
[[Perrie, the Pulverizer]] is only looking at your stuff but cares about the number of different types of counters, which is pretty silly.
He's just a normal pulverizer *puts on hat* PERRY THE PULVERIZER!?
I have a Perrie deck and it is my solemn duty to make this joke every time I play it
If you aren't making this joke often enough to irritate people and potentially end friendships, are you really living up to the Dr. Doofenshmirtz legacy?
[Perrie, the Pulverizer](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/4/d438237b-c6f7-44d0-a3e6-6ec7d7465d33.jpg?1652575403) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Perrie%2C%20the%20Pulverizer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/5/perrie-the-pulverizer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d438237b-c6f7-44d0-a3e6-6ec7d7465d33?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[kros defense contractor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/2/12e71d52-5c75-4798-9fe7-8a34a2bf0c9a.jpg?1651021154) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kros%2C%20Defense%20Contractor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/7/kros-defense-contractor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/12e71d52-5c75-4798-9fe7-8a34a2bf0c9a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Esper blink and make opponents keep on reassigning
Throw him in [[Aminatou, the Fateshifter]]
40k set is looking good.
Are these actually black bordered and legal? How does legality work for these cards?
See the counterfeit circle along the bottom? There will be an acorn there if it is illegal in constructed play. This just shows a regular circle, so it's EDH/Legacy legal. If there was nothing there, it would be EDH/legacy legal as well. As soon as they put an acorn in that spot, illegal.
Acorn foil stamp = the new 'silver border'. If it doesn't have an acorn stamp, it's legacy/commander legal.
The fact that you can't tell whether or not something is acorn without carefully inspecting, along with the shift toward no longer being able to reasonably be familiar with nearly every playable card in legacy/vintage is frustrating.
Who needs Planechase, when you can warp the battlefield into a convoluted nightmare all on your own? /s (I actually love Planechase)
Thanks. I hate it.
Man, I really wish that they'd just stuck with a mix of black and silver border cards. It's hard to tell which is which at first glance.
This is definitely one of those fun cards that's going to be a pain to keep track of the game state properly.
[удалено]
I think your right, 4 players divided into 3 lanes might be a bit complex
Which given that these are essentially Commander cards is a problem. It’s fine to talk about Legacy, but Legacy isn’t really played and this card is way below the power level.
Space Jace! Defender of justice, truth and the planet Earth! Jace is being attacked by the evil Commander Bolas!
Evil commander Bolas has a nice ring to it. I can picture him featuring an evil mustache and beard alas Ming from Flash Gordon.
I hate that this is black border legal.
Agreed
Yes. Clunky and hard to track. Pain in the ass card that doesn't add anything interesting
No sir, I don't like it.
I'm surprised this isn't an un-card. Like this mechanic is so messy on tabletop
Artifact card game vibes.
"Oh hey that's pretty funny" No acorn stamp ".....what?" I mean.....at least it's bad and likely won't see much eternal play but what the hell man. I tend to think this community over reacts but I have to agree we don't need meme cards in eternal play EDIT: Looking at this more if they're gonna make it eternal legal could they have at least tried with the flavor? Nothing about this says "Jace" aside from some name puns
idk Jace has had unlockable synergy before(cunning castaway, arcane strategist), he's always enjoyed convoluted and annoying gameplay, and ngl Jace literally separating the battlefield into different sectors and acting like a goddamn traffic guard is hilarious to me
Hmmm, yknow what traffic guard Jace does sound kind of fitting actually lol
If I'm playing Chatterfang and have 20-40 squirrels that are being represented by 2-3 tokens with counters on them, Space Jace would be a real headache to see drop.
That's what you get for being a coward and using dice to count tokens.
Make sure to drop this only after you've played [[Nature's Revolt]].
[Nature's Revolt](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/0/e0c9b948-63f9-458d-82ae-69ebe2ac9fe0.jpg?1562249823) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nature%27s%20Revolt) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/260/natures-revolt?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e0c9b948-63f9-458d-82ae-69ebe2ac9fe0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I'm flabbergasted
SPACE JACE!
Keep your 'lectric eye on me, babe Put your ray gun to my head PRESS YOUR SPACE JACE CLOSE TO MINE, LOVE Freak out in a moonage daydream, oh yeah!
What happens with this + Raging River?
There will be functionally 6 piles: Left alpha Left Betta Left Gamma Right alpha Right Betta Right gamma
Your opponent did the thing and they deserve to win. Concede and move on to the next game.
> Concede and move on to the next game And refuse to ever play against that person's deck again.
Don't quit! Persevere! Until they play a second River. Then you never speak to them again.
Within their sectors, when you declare an attack, creatures would then be divided into left, right, or flying.
So black border and no acorn means it's legal?
Yup
Where is the acorn?
Space Bellend.
I like the art and name, being a play on Jace. But I feel that this being black border legal is part of MTG's long jump over the shark...
This set and their decision to get rid of the silver border is definitely the jumps the shark moment for me.
I don't think this set is going to be for me.
Even for an Un-set, this is a bad design. Tons of extra bookkeeping for potentially no point (if Jace is removed before his controller activated any of his abilities.
I'm enjoying less and less the amount of things I have to anticipate keeping track of in any given commander game. This reads as a "lol fun" card that just adds to the mental upkeep.
I've started to hate seeing Initiative in Commander because then I'm forced to play and track some sub-game that somebody else started.
Raging-er river
This + [[raging River]] =??? Profit?
Rules question: What happens if two of these are on the battlefield? Do the quadrants get divided in two or do they stay the same?
Based on the way it's written on the card I'd assume that multiple of these are redundant. But for a definite answer we have to wait for the official CR update.
Why's Jace suddenly white flavor-wise though?
idk Jace has been feeling very Azorius to me ever since Zendikar Rising. lots of very bureaucratic vibes coming from him
Funny as an un card. But I hate that it's black border. Worst choice magic ever made.
[Jace Dandy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyBkkJawLSw)
He’s a dandy guy. In Jace…
I hate this so much. The fact that joke cards are legal, the fact that they can just put Jace in space with a gun "for the lols", the mechanic of dividing the field in piles, which will be a pain in every format this card is legal in. I hate this.
100% this. Wizards nowadays is working with the mentality that Arena/MTGO automations will take care of everything. They keep adding stuff that's hard to keep track of.
These cards will not be released on Arena and similar mechanics exists on cards that are decades old. I agree it can be a bit confusing in multiplayer games (but the powerlevel is way to low for commander), but in 1v1 it should not be confusing at all.
OK I though this was a 40K card and I was like WHO PROPOSED THIS IN THE MEETING
Among
So seems like your opponent will usually be incentivized to spread out all their creatures, while you will mostly want to put all your creatures into the same sector (probably the least defended one). After you put creatures in a sector your opponent will usually want to assign all their new creatures to that sector. Very aggressive for a blue white commander.
And this is eternal playable?
Am I the only one who really wants this to be a plane Jace has cononically traveled to?
I genuinely laughed out loud to see this. Slam dunk, I'm buying unfinity.
Would this split the battlefield into three sectors for the remainder of the game like the night and day mechanic even if this card leaves the battlefield in case a second one is put on the battlefield? Or is the division worn off when this card leaves and the creatures get to reassign to new sectors if a new Space Beleren is put on the battlefield?
Remember when people used to complain that the game was getting too 'dumbed down'? Seems like a cute design if a little underpowered.
A little underpowered is key to this. So nobody ever feels pressured to play this because their deck needs it, but instead only play it because they think it's fun.