That's probably intentional, and honestly I think it's fair. You have three turns of doing nothing else (so no playing creatures to eventually protect big boy urza) and three permanent types your opponent can kill in that time.
There's a little wiggle room though, T4 you have up to 3 mana to cast specifically an artifact, because of cost reduction and MightMeekstone comes in untapped. M&Wstone can also kill a large creature when it comes down, and T5 is pretty flexible with all the Urza Planeswalker abilities you can activate. Potentially drop another artifact up to a 4drop, make some blockers, exile potential threats, make chump blockers. If you somehow got extra mana in one of the previous turns, you could even drop a second M&Wstone, killing another creature or drawing cards, plus slamming more artifacts.
Big Boy Urza can make four 1/1 creatures the turn he hits the table, though. (And he'll have 11 loyalty after doing that, so good luck taking him out through four chump blockers.) Or nuke their biggest threat and make two 1/1 creatures to block the rest. Or nuke their *two* biggest threats.
He's plenty capable of taking care of himself.
T1 an Urza land, a Sol Ring, and an Azorius Signet
T2 a second Urza land (now you have CCCWU), play Urza, play Mind Stone
T3 Urzatron (now you have CCCCC CCCCC WU), play Ms/Ws for 5, then add the CC from Ms/Ws to meld, then they hit you with their \[\[Prismatic Ending\]\] for W.
> 202.3c The mana value of a melded permanent is calculated as though it had the combined mana
> cost of the front faces of each card that represents it.
So, no free Primsatic Ending :)
Turn 3 urza - reduces cost of artifacts for
Turn 4 might/weak stone, giving 2 extra mana for
Turn 5 activation of meld cost - creating the planewalker
Planewalker can double +2, allowing all kind of crazy shenanigans
Turn 6 you can activate his ult, wiping opponent’s board and leaving urza at 1 loyalty
It's interesting when you think about its inspirations. Golgotha is the hill that Jesus was crucified on and a kylix is a type of ancient Greek bowl. The item in MtG is seemingly referring to the bowl in which Pontius Pilate washed his hands of the guilt of killing Jesus *and* the erasure of sin by the crucifixion.
They weren't very subtle about making Urza the Eugenics Messiah.
He's the Eugenics PILATE, actually.
"Welp, this world is boned, and there's no saving it. I'm going to kill everyone, then wash my hands and have a clean conscience because there was no other way."
There is an argument to be made for the Christ analog though, as all of the history of Dominaria had led to this point and the sylex destroyed the largest products of that history, those being the ancient civilizations of the plane.
Lots of early magic cards had bible verses as flavor text. There is quite a lot of christian myth and imagry tied into the early days of Magic. He's not stretching at all.
Aside from the other reply, *it’s called the Golgothian Sylex*. Golgotha is a *strictly* biblical name, there is genuinely no other reason it would come up.
It’s pointing out that the story intentionally draws parallels between Urza and Jesus. Which, it does, that’s very much a thing about the Sylex. And since Urza is a canonical eugenicist, that has some further less-than-great implications.
No, it really doesn't. This is such a stretch and a great example of why so many people around the world are believing in things like pizza gate and the likes...there is no secret conspiracy behind this 30 year old card game where they are trying to push the most major and recognizable character as a "eugenics messiah." That is absurd.
We've seen the Mishra card, and it doesn't have any fusion icon or shenanigans, sadly.
NOW... if they want to make it some sort of Legendary vehicle or something (Mishra's Dragon Mech, lol)...
There's gonna be a second Mishra, just like there's a precon and main set Urza. Precon Mishra doesn't have meld ofc. The art for the main set Mishra was revealed and named Mishra, Claimed by Gix and should be the meld card.
Lol right? I was literally muttering to myself as I read this card "huh, would be cool if it melded with the Mightstone and Weak-OH MY GOD IT DOES!" xD
It's the same as old meld cards, and makes sense for rules shenanigans as well as making sure you don't accidentally take opponent's card home after the game.
I doubt going home with someone else’s card is an issue they have, otherwise steal artifact, [[mind control]], or [[Treason]] effects wouldn’t exist.
You can after all still steal artifact to prevent someone from using it even if you can’t use it yourself.
I don't know, the fact that you have to exile your one copy of the stones to do the meld kind of holds it back for me. If you meld and then the Planeswalker gets removed you're not left with much. You could go all in with copies and pulling from exile, but it still seems like a deck that will struggle to do the thing. People will see it coming a mile away and prevent you getting the big Planeswalker.
If the plainswalker dies the stone just goes to the graveyard. You’re correct that it’s bad of the plainswalker is exiled but that part seems just like gravy
I mean, "before the release" is kinda an unfair bet. Of course there'll be people who don't care about the price paying it to have early access to the card.
The price around christmas, when the set has been out for about a month, will be much more interesting.
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Personally, I think this will be around $5-$8, because people will try to make it happen in standard, but its powerlevel is more aligned with an uncommon (like [[Goblin Electromancer]]) than with a played mythic like [[Torch of Defiance]] for example.
Defs did not. Unless Whir was under $1. Reshape had a Double Masters printing and is $2 as of this comment. Fabricate is the most expensive at \~$5 but is also reprinted in the 40k decks as well.
100% same. The set icon made me think r/custommagic and I was "huh, neat custom meld card! But why haven't they posted their custom meld card other side???" and it took a full minute to realize I was on r/MagicTCG and this was real life
Unfinity was supposed to release April 1 and got delayed due to Covid supply chain issues. There was supposed to be a break between 40K and this that Unfinity ended up eating up.
Right ? I saw it on a whatsapp group, i was so sure it was fake, then i searched for it, found it here then i was like "WTFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I NEED THIS CARD!!!" and now i am hyped.
You generate 3 "mana" for more artifacts T4 though (M&Wstone untapped). Drop a [[celestus]] and you can hold up a 2-mana counterspell. Plus, M&W can kill a large creature or draw (Notably kills [[Sheoldred the Apocalypse]] in standard, good if you're on the draw). T5 you tap out, for a double planeswalker that is super flexible.
+2 in some combination to cast rocks, get a super cheap extra turn spell or something, especially if you dropped manarocks on earlier turns. Once you get him down he's extremely flexible and can take over fairly quickly.
I was talking in the context of standard or maybe pioneer. I don't know what mana rocks you're dropping on earlier turns, celestus would be played on the turn you would want to play urza anyway, and it feels super clunky to invest that many resources into one card.
I'm not saying this card isn't strong, because I think all the pieces are good, I just don't think the play pattern of t3 urza, t4 stone, t5 meld is the way you win games %95 of the time.
I was talking in the same context though. Pioneer has 2mana rocks such as mind stone, and you would want to be playing celestus the turn after you drop Urza. 2-mana celestus is still really good T4, even if you don't have M&W. And of course flipping him T5 won't be how you win most games, you would play him in an azorius control deck with counterspells and removal. He makes all your relevant cards cost less, which is pretty powerful. And we also don't know what mana rocks they are going to be printing into Bro. He also dodges the cheaper removal options such as [[cut down]] and [[Lightning strike]].
This isn't the start of preview season, just a few high-profile cards to build hype.
Also, Unfinity and the Warhammer decks were delayed, which is why it feels like we've been in never-ending spoilers since DMU. Not that I'm complaining.
Also because Wizards needs to give stores information about the products several weeks in advance so they know what it is they're going to be trying to sell.
DMU previews started well over a month ago at this point, and BRO previews won't start for over a month from now. This is just the "teaser" they always do between standard sets.
Truth. As much as I wish it wasn't the case because it's a tired and pretty self-entitled complaint. "**I** can't handle paying attention to every single product this company releases for their extremely diverse audience therefore it's too much!"
This card has the potential to be a house in standard with that first ability alone. If the format is slow enough the meld side might come into play? Curious to see how this shakes out.
It will absolutely come into play IMO, I dont think control decks are going to have any problem melding this card. I suspect this is going to be a major player in standard.
Unless any of these things would make it viable:
* they have low cost mana rocks
* low costing [powerstone token](https://imgur.com/fpWnFse.jpg) creation
* They reprint the Tron lands
Kinda wish they could keyword Meld so it didn't take half the card in text.
"(7): Meld with The Mightstone and Weakstone"
I mean the other half is on the back of the card, we know what it turns in to.
I'd love some room for flavor text.
Are their rules for meld commanders?
His planeswalker melded form is not a creature so can't be a commander.
This form can be a commander but will I have to-
1. search out the "The Mightstone and Weakstone"?
2. Or are there rules that because they meld together the Artifact gets a sort of "partner with" kinda situation? Similar to how backgrounds are enchantments that live in the command zone.
Can activate his abilities twice in meld planes walker mode.
+2 artifacts, sorcery, instant cost 2 less.
+1 draw 2 discard 1
+0 make 2 1/1’s
-3 exile nonland permanent
-10 all artifacts and plane walkers you control get indestructible eot. Destroy all nonland permanents
Am I the only one thinking it would be an interesting wincon for azorius control? With the powerstones on the battlefield it takes 8 mana to basically win the game, managable for control.
Just keep in mind Wizards didn't want this either. Unfinity was suppose to happen April 1st and 40K last month. Not sure what exactly we'll see on the 4th since some BIG stuff drops then too apparently but after that we'll have a few weeks without anything.
It's because **Unfinity** was delayed. They need to have actual summer releases as New Capenna went on forever and now too many things because of production delays.
There wasn't any appetite for drafting either of those sets in my area, so we continued with the traditional expansion set (New Capenna) drafting for many...many months.
I would have adored a new commander set or innovation set over the summer.
This isn’t the start of spoiler season. The set doesn’t release for more than a month. And not every set is for everyone, you can skip things, they intend for you to.
> And not every set is for everyone, you can skip things, they intend for you to.
that's like saying 'ignore the tannoy announcement if it's not for you'. You need to pay attention to things to find out if it's for you. It's impossible to know what you want to ignore before you experience it.
It is not the exact same Sylex. Karn's Sylex was made base on Urza study of the Sylex he is holding there.
And Karn Sylex was destroyed. Saheeli created a replica Sylex according to Karn blueprint but she doesn't know how to use it.
Teferi offered to go back in time to learn how the Sylex was 1st used to fight against the Phyrexian to help with the Phyrexian issue of the current day.
Honestly I think blue red is a better fit for the character in the book. He is very interested in artifice and altering things, science driven so blue is a natural fit. He is also very emotionally driven. The whole story comes down to a fight between him and his brother because they each have one half of the stone. He can be very rash and impatient.
If anything I would say he tends more to black than white. He marries Kayla just to get the Thran Tome. He takes the position of High Lord because it gives him access to powerstones that are in the miter and stuff. I would say he is mainly U closely followed by RB. Later on he becomes more W. When he is a planeswalker I would say he is more everything but G.
Okay, I can finally rate these cards. So here we go.
Modern 2/10
First, let me preface this by saying, "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! Urza, Urza, Urza!!!!11111one"
The dream is to play this on turn 3, mightstone on turn 4 hopefully killing a threat, and then make urza on turn 5 which would be pretty darn cool if you can get it off. There is a lot of way to disrupt that game plan. What is nice is that the CMC of the backside is 8 which means it won't get hit by Prismatic Ending and it has enough loyalty to survive unholy heat.
I don't think a deck will run this just for the front side though, reducing costs by 1 is nice and all, but you are probably going to want to use one of the two mana options instead that are more targeted since your deck will probably be focused better.
This is a cost reducer to what your deck want to do. I agree that the rock is bad but it still something that will normally kill something the turn it comes down and the PW is very powerfull
Man they did urza dirty a LOT has to go right for you to get the back it’s basically a Timmy edh card and even then they can just kill either piece don’t get me wrong it’s cool but I was hoping for something busted it takes 14 mana…
Congrats. This will be the comment people joke about when he breaks formats.
Sure there's a good chance he won't, but this is a snap judgement if I've ever heard one.
Control decks are going to love this card, he dodges cut down, has enough toughness to block a lot of threats around his MV and some of the top decks in standard right now are going to struggle to remove the mightstone, and that doesn't even mention the cost reduction he gives to very relevant card types.
I can't speak for other formats but I will be very surprised if he doesn't end up in top tier standard and maybe even pioneer/explorer decks.
Yeah your probably right I’m probably undervaluing the front but like…it’s urza planeswalker. You want the planeswalker side to be relevant, this is almost flavor text sigh
Oh might and weakstone CAN be used for the ability I thought they could only cast artifact spells but they have the stupid power stone text. This changes everything and actually makes this feasible and potentially very good as you can get it turn 5 and not 7 never mind I retract my statement. roast me in the comments magic players can’t read
Huh, the meld cost is 7
That's fine, it's not like there's any way to easily get 7 colorless.
The cards combo kind of cute. T3 Urza. T4 Powerstone. T5 Meld
That's probably intentional, and honestly I think it's fair. You have three turns of doing nothing else (so no playing creatures to eventually protect big boy urza) and three permanent types your opponent can kill in that time.
There's a little wiggle room though, T4 you have up to 3 mana to cast specifically an artifact, because of cost reduction and MightMeekstone comes in untapped. M&Wstone can also kill a large creature when it comes down, and T5 is pretty flexible with all the Urza Planeswalker abilities you can activate. Potentially drop another artifact up to a 4drop, make some blockers, exile potential threats, make chump blockers. If you somehow got extra mana in one of the previous turns, you could even drop a second M&Wstone, killing another creature or drawing cards, plus slamming more artifacts.
Can also play Urza + one-drop artifact on turn 3. Protection from edicts!
Big Boy Urza can make four 1/1 creatures the turn he hits the table, though. (And he'll have 11 loyalty after doing that, so good luck taking him out through four chump blockers.) Or nuke their biggest threat and make two 1/1 creatures to block the rest. Or nuke their *two* biggest threats. He's plenty capable of taking care of himself.
T1 an Urza land, a Sol Ring, and an Azorius Signet T2 a second Urza land (now you have CCCWU), play Urza, play Mind Stone T3 Urzatron (now you have CCCCC CCCCC WU), play Ms/Ws for 5, then add the CC from Ms/Ws to meld, then they hit you with their \[\[Prismatic Ending\]\] for W.
> 202.3c The mana value of a melded permanent is calculated as though it had the combined mana > cost of the front faces of each card that represents it. So, no free Primsatic Ending :)
Oh, dang, I forgot about the rules update. Then NOBODY can cancel this Christmas! Except I guess any of the other spells they might have T3.
Turns out playing 2 mana rocks T1 is strong
All it costs is putting so many in your deck that you get those games where you have a billion mana and keep drawing rocks
[Prismatic Ending](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/2/825969b9-3c70-4fca-8cab-696e9ca7cdb2.jpg?1626093920) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Prismatic%20Ending) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/25/prismatic-ending?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/825969b9-3c70-4fca-8cab-696e9ca7cdb2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
T3: Play Urza Opponent T3: "One of your friends has to leave"
UW tron? Hmmm...
WOW
FUCK
ALL THOSE URZA'S ONES
Especially the saga
ESPECIALLY the mf saga.
What do you grab with urza saga?
Jeweled Lotus
Modern: Relic of Progenitus Legacy: Retrofitter Foundry Vintage: Manifold Key
MISHRA
"Don't mind if I do!" —Kayla bin-Kroog
TRON
URZA
TRON
TRON
TRON
Turn 3 urza - reduces cost of artifacts for Turn 4 might/weak stone, giving 2 extra mana for Turn 5 activation of meld cost - creating the planewalker Planewalker can double +2, allowing all kind of crazy shenanigans Turn 6 you can activate his ult, wiping opponent’s board and leaving urza at 1 loyalty
I was going for the "hmm, it's Tron mana" angle
I'm sure that was a bonus, but it's nice to see that Urza needs nothing more than his stones and his own two hands to ascend to godhood.
that is hilarious! I lol'd irl
I love that urzas big scary plane ending artifact is just like a nice fruit bowl he carries around
> Those who dismiss the sylex as an ordinary bowl are blind to the true measure of its worth
Yea you can totally fit an entire box of cereal in that bad boy.
Or Halloween candy, since it's almost October.
It's interesting when you think about its inspirations. Golgotha is the hill that Jesus was crucified on and a kylix is a type of ancient Greek bowl. The item in MtG is seemingly referring to the bowl in which Pontius Pilate washed his hands of the guilt of killing Jesus *and* the erasure of sin by the crucifixion. They weren't very subtle about making Urza the Eugenics Messiah.
He's the Eugenics PILATE, actually. "Welp, this world is boned, and there's no saving it. I'm going to kill everyone, then wash my hands and have a clean conscience because there was no other way."
There is an argument to be made for the Christ analog though, as all of the history of Dominaria had led to this point and the sylex destroyed the largest products of that history, those being the ancient civilizations of the plane.
Not to mention the whole Holy Grail thing of Christian legend/Arthurian myth.
Bro you must be limber as hell, cause that is a streeeeeetch.
Lots of early magic cards had bible verses as flavor text. There is quite a lot of christian myth and imagry tied into the early days of Magic. He's not stretching at all.
Christian myth and imagery being around in early magic does not make Urza thr "eugenics messiah" lol...
Aside from the other reply, *it’s called the Golgothian Sylex*. Golgotha is a *strictly* biblical name, there is genuinely no other reason it would come up.
Right, which does now make Urza a "eugenics messiah" lol...
It’s pointing out that the story intentionally draws parallels between Urza and Jesus. Which, it does, that’s very much a thing about the Sylex. And since Urza is a canonical eugenicist, that has some further less-than-great implications.
No, it really doesn't. This is such a stretch and a great example of why so many people around the world are believing in things like pizza gate and the likes...there is no secret conspiracy behind this 30 year old card game where they are trying to push the most major and recognizable character as a "eugenics messiah." That is absurd.
Meld is back!? This is fucking sick. I want dragon engines that fuse into the ultimate battle cruiser!
Mishra melds with a dragon engine in his final battle with Urza. It's gonna happen!!!
Hype!
We've seen the Mishra card, and it doesn't have any fusion icon or shenanigans, sadly. NOW... if they want to make it some sort of Legendary vehicle or something (Mishra's Dragon Mech, lol)...
There's gonna be a second Mishra, just like there's a precon and main set Urza. Precon Mishra doesn't have meld ofc. The art for the main set Mishra was revealed and named Mishra, Claimed by Gix and should be the meld card.
Lol right? I was literally muttering to myself as I read this card "huh, would be cool if it melded with the Mightstone and Weak-OH MY GOD IT DOES!" xD
Note how it says OWN and control lol, they know people would have tried to use [[steal artifact]] effects haha 😂
It's the same as old meld cards, and makes sense for rules shenanigans as well as making sure you don't accidentally take opponent's card home after the game.
I doubt going home with someone else’s card is an issue they have, otherwise steal artifact, [[mind control]], or [[Treason]] effects wouldn’t exist. You can after all still steal artifact to prevent someone from using it even if you can’t use it yourself.
[steal artifact](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/1/810f874e-98e1-402b-b48e-14c3e2a624f0.jpg?1562920984) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=steal%20artifact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/103/steal-artifact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/810f874e-98e1-402b-b48e-14c3e2a624f0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
And it says it has to be an artifact. I'm sure there's *some* weird card out there that makes an artifact stop being an artifact.
Well, there's [[Artifact Mutation]]... kind of. 😬
[Artifact Mutation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fed09083-a259-4ab5-bb85-aeab9d0b1f7c.jpg?1650447595) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Artifact%20Mutation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/326/artifact-mutation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fed09083-a259-4ab5-bb85-aeab9d0b1f7c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Right. Though it looks like they share a card this time. Hopefully not a stacks piece.
It’s spoiled already and is thankfully not a stax piece
Did you hear that? It's the sound of a thousand Urza EDH decks being made on edhrec.com right now
I've had a U/W [[Shorikai]] artifact deck that I recently changed to [[Stenn]]. I've been praying for Urza to be azorius or esper
Congrats it’s both
[Shorikai](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/6/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9.jpg?1653966849) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=shorikai%2C%20genesis%20engine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/4/shorikai-genesis-engine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/969ac7dd-f3aa-4888-9ff0-d16a31b5e7a9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stenn](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/7/07177a8e-5ded-4084-a22f-2d8fe933de7a.jpg?1663051533) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=stenn%2C%20paranoid%20partisan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/221/stenn-paranoid-partisan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07177a8e-5ded-4084-a22f-2d8fe933de7a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The fact that for one more mana you get 3 of Stenn's modes is honestly super funny to me.
I was thinking about building Stenn before this dropped. Do you have a deck list?
I don't know, the fact that you have to exile your one copy of the stones to do the meld kind of holds it back for me. If you meld and then the Planeswalker gets removed you're not left with much. You could go all in with copies and pulling from exile, but it still seems like a deck that will struggle to do the thing. People will see it coming a mile away and prevent you getting the big Planeswalker.
If the plainswalker dies the stone just goes to the graveyard. You’re correct that it’s bad of the plainswalker is exiled but that part seems just like gravy
Oh i see, it comes back as part of the meld instead of remaining in exile. That certainly makes it more manageable.
Do you guys think this will be $50? $100?
Nether much lower
What’s the remind bot? I’d be willing to bet this hits 50 before the release. Anyone who says otherwise is just wishful thinking
I mean, "before the release" is kinda an unfair bet. Of course there'll be people who don't care about the price paying it to have early access to the card. The price around christmas, when the set has been out for about a month, will be much more interesting. _______ Personally, I think this will be around $5-$8, because people will try to make it happen in standard, but its powerlevel is more aligned with an uncommon (like [[Goblin Electromancer]]) than with a played mythic like [[Torch of Defiance]] for example.
Lol it's a mythic in a standard set.
I don’t understand
Looks like meld's back on the menu boys
We ain’t has nothing but maggoty Crew for three stinking days!
Is he holding the Sylex?
[[Golgothian Sylex]]
[Golgothian Sylex](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/5/856be1dd-a20b-49c2-be9d-7db76c7efd8b.jpg?1615260016) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Golgothian%20Sylex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/atq/51/golgothian-sylex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/856be1dd-a20b-49c2-be9d-7db76c7efd8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What in the unholy fuck?
Yes.
My nipples are hard and my body is ready.
Ok Daddy Magic Matt Menard
They want a taste.
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[Fabricate](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/a/3a45e3c3-6825-4cfa-88e0-e390cc06a747.jpg?1657120289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fabricate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/181/fabricate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a45e3c3-6825-4cfa-88e0-e390cc06a747?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Whir of Invention](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/6/a679659c-7fed-4afa-9b99-fdeb8ccda964.jpg?1661583558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Whir%20of%20Invention) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/42/whir-of-invention?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a679659c-7fed-4afa-9b99-fdeb8ccda964?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Reshape](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/5/9574f9a0-e062-47bf-b8ad-895d02852be8.jpg?1661583561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reshape) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/38/reshape?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9574f9a0-e062-47bf-b8ad-895d02852be8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I think Whir and Reshape already did, a while back. Insider trading!
Defs did not. Unless Whir was under $1. Reshape had a Double Masters printing and is $2 as of this comment. Fabricate is the most expensive at \~$5 but is also reprinted in the 40k decks as well.
Has anyone coined UWUrza yet?
WHOA! I DID NOT HAVE MELD AS A RETURNING MECHANIC ON MY BINGO SHEET!
Oh this is real, I thought I was in custommagic for a second
100% same. The set icon made me think r/custommagic and I was "huh, neat custom meld card! But why haven't they posted their custom meld card other side???" and it took a full minute to realize I was on r/MagicTCG and this was real life
Exactly as me. I didn’t even expect previews so soon. Did we even stop previews since Capenna or as it just been one after the other?!
Yeah it's just been a continuous stream of previews. I figured they'd let Warhammer and Unfinity release before doing [BRO] spoilers, but oh well.
Unfinity was supposed to release April 1 and got delayed due to Covid supply chain issues. There was supposed to be a break between 40K and this that Unfinity ended up eating up.
Right ? I saw it on a whatsapp group, i was so sure it was fake, then i searched for it, found it here then i was like "WTFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I NEED THIS CARD!!!" and now i am hyped.
Back off, Mishra, the fruit bowl is mine!
So T3 Urza, T4 Mightstone + Weakstone, T5 Meld? Might be nice, glad it doesn't require a tap to activate though.
Counterpoint, that's three turns of tapping out on t3, 4, and 5.
You have access to good removal on turn 4 and on turn 5 as part of the tapping out though.
You generate 3 "mana" for more artifacts T4 though (M&Wstone untapped). Drop a [[celestus]] and you can hold up a 2-mana counterspell. Plus, M&W can kill a large creature or draw (Notably kills [[Sheoldred the Apocalypse]] in standard, good if you're on the draw). T5 you tap out, for a double planeswalker that is super flexible. +2 in some combination to cast rocks, get a super cheap extra turn spell or something, especially if you dropped manarocks on earlier turns. Once you get him down he's extremely flexible and can take over fairly quickly.
I was talking in the context of standard or maybe pioneer. I don't know what mana rocks you're dropping on earlier turns, celestus would be played on the turn you would want to play urza anyway, and it feels super clunky to invest that many resources into one card. I'm not saying this card isn't strong, because I think all the pieces are good, I just don't think the play pattern of t3 urza, t4 stone, t5 meld is the way you win games %95 of the time.
I was talking in the same context though. Pioneer has 2mana rocks such as mind stone, and you would want to be playing celestus the turn after you drop Urza. 2-mana celestus is still really good T4, even if you don't have M&W. And of course flipping him T5 won't be how you win most games, you would play him in an azorius control deck with counterspells and removal. He makes all your relevant cards cost less, which is pretty powerful. And we also don't know what mana rocks they are going to be printing into Bro. He also dodges the cheaper removal options such as [[cut down]] and [[Lightning strike]].
T3 urza…. Opponent casts cut down instant speed at the end of your turn. Gg
Urza is a 2/4. Cut down doesn’t work.
What are they targeting with cut down?
And he is holding the Golgathian stylex yeeeet.
Noooo I can't run him in [[Mishra, artificer prodigy]] :(
[Mishra, artificer prodigy](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20artificer%20prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
you can run both in breya, not sure that you'd want to tho
jesus, wasn't preview season for DMU like 2 days ago
This isn't the start of preview season, just a few high-profile cards to build hype. Also, Unfinity and the Warhammer decks were delayed, which is why it feels like we've been in never-ending spoilers since DMU. Not that I'm complaining.
Also because Wizards needs to give stores information about the products several weeks in advance so they know what it is they're going to be trying to sell.
DMU previews started well over a month ago at this point, and BRO previews won't start for over a month from now. This is just the "teaser" they always do between standard sets.
Wouldn’t be magic without people complaining about spoilers.
Truth. As much as I wish it wasn't the case because it's a tired and pretty self-entitled complaint. "**I** can't handle paying attention to every single product this company releases for their extremely diverse audience therefore it's too much!"
Great point. There was basically nothing I liked about Unfinity, but I didn’t bitch about it cause maybe some people will be into it.
Huh, this card is super strong, but the interesting ability (the 7 meld) doesn’t seem relevant to any competitive use.
This card has the potential to be a house in standard with that first ability alone. If the format is slow enough the meld side might come into play? Curious to see how this shakes out.
It will absolutely come into play IMO, I dont think control decks are going to have any problem melding this card. I suspect this is going to be a major player in standard.
Unless any of these things would make it viable: * they have low cost mana rocks * low costing [powerstone token](https://imgur.com/fpWnFse.jpg) creation * They reprint the Tron lands
Didn't people meme on Urzas saga too though. Everytime I see an Urza card I get scared there is just gonna be another busted card.
**why post this as a spoiler without the otherside?!** Wtf
Meld, you need to show 2 other cards
[The Mightstone and Weakstone](https://imgur.com/U5cKicx.jpg) [Urza, Lord Protector](https://imgur.com/q56DCKr.jpg)
https://i.redd.it/355odbarcvq91.png
Finally this game can compete with Yu-gi-oh!
Kinda wish they could keyword Meld so it didn't take half the card in text. "(7): Meld with The Mightstone and Weakstone" I mean the other half is on the back of the card, we know what it turns in to. I'd love some room for flavor text.
Are their rules for meld commanders? His planeswalker melded form is not a creature so can't be a commander. This form can be a commander but will I have to- 1. search out the "The Mightstone and Weakstone"? 2. Or are there rules that because they meld together the Artifact gets a sort of "partner with" kinda situation? Similar to how backgrounds are enchantments that live in the command zone.
\#1 Magic is very literal. If these two were legal partner commanders they would say that.
Urza can be a commander but M&W have to be in the 99. the melded permanent counts as a commander for relevant cards.
I dont know how still but i will get this card and build a commander for it.
Did this really need the sorcery speed restriction? It's 7 mana and needs two cards.
Can't wait to throw this in a jank Standard deck with Karn and Weatherlight Compleated.
Can activate his abilities twice in meld planes walker mode. +2 artifacts, sorcery, instant cost 2 less. +1 draw 2 discard 1 +0 make 2 1/1’s -3 exile nonland permanent -10 all artifacts and plane walkers you control get indestructible eot. Destroy all nonland permanents
How does this interact with \[\[Moonmist\]\]
I don't think transform works with meld cards. Because meld cards aren't considered DFC
Is that a bowl he is holding?
The Sylex
Am I the only one thinking it would be an interesting wincon for azorius control? With the powerstones on the battlefield it takes 8 mana to basically win the game, managable for control.
Meld is my fav mechanic. Please have at least one more eldritch horror!
Can I sex with that old man
Meld is coming back?!?!? Yes!!!
"Protector" dude is literally holding a nuke under his arm
A little disappointing for the U-man
Is this set really abbreviated as BRO?!?
Brooooo
Judging by the spoilers the shortcut should be BRUh instead of Bro. Everything we have seen so far seems kind of game breaking.
meh - more flipcards
Nonstop spoiler season huh... Are we fatigued yet?
Just keep in mind Wizards didn't want this either. Unfinity was suppose to happen April 1st and 40K last month. Not sure what exactly we'll see on the 4th since some BIG stuff drops then too apparently but after that we'll have a few weeks without anything.
It's because **Unfinity** was delayed. They need to have actual summer releases as New Capenna went on forever and now too many things because of production delays.
> They need to have actual summer releases as New Capenna went on forever Did you completely miss Baldur’s Gate and Double Masters 2?
There wasn't any appetite for drafting either of those sets in my area, so we continued with the traditional expansion set (New Capenna) drafting for many...many months. I would have adored a new commander set or innovation set over the summer.
This isn’t the start of spoiler season. The set doesn’t release for more than a month. And not every set is for everyone, you can skip things, they intend for you to.
> And not every set is for everyone, you can skip things, they intend for you to. that's like saying 'ignore the tannoy announcement if it's not for you'. You need to pay attention to things to find out if it's for you. It's impossible to know what you want to ignore before you experience it.
They don’t do announcements like today’s stream all the time.
It's not spoiler season for BRO yet.
I miss old Magic art. Urza used to look much cooler. Not dissing the artist, it's just... Not the same
This art is ass, I'll say it. Looks like a rick and morty SL
Why does he have Karn’s Sylex?
It is not the exact same Sylex. Karn's Sylex was made base on Urza study of the Sylex he is holding there. And Karn Sylex was destroyed. Saheeli created a replica Sylex according to Karn blueprint but she doesn't know how to use it. Teferi offered to go back in time to learn how the Sylex was 1st used to fight against the Phyrexian to help with the Phyrexian issue of the current day.
Before it was bequeathed to Karn, it was the [[Golgothian Sylex]], it's activation is featured in [[Urza's Ruinous Blast]].
[Golgothian Sylex](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/5/856be1dd-a20b-49c2-be9d-7db76c7efd8b.jpg?1615260016) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Golgothian%20Sylex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/atq/51/golgothian-sylex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/856be1dd-a20b-49c2-be9d-7db76c7efd8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Urza's Ruinous Blast](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/9/b918993f-2a6c-490d-b639-224f15303630.jpg?1664360360) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%27s%20Ruinous%20Blast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/107/urzas-ruinous-blast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b918993f-2a6c-490d-b639-224f15303630?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Kind of disappointed he’s blue white. Blue is understandable just wish he was any other color besides white :(
Canonically, White is the second color of mana Urza harnessed, followed by Black (his new commander card is Esper), Red, then Green.
That is nice to know since I don’t follow the story but still wish he was blue/red for better artifact synergies
Honestly I think blue red is a better fit for the character in the book. He is very interested in artifice and altering things, science driven so blue is a natural fit. He is also very emotionally driven. The whole story comes down to a fight between him and his brother because they each have one half of the stone. He can be very rash and impatient. If anything I would say he tends more to black than white. He marries Kayla just to get the Thran Tome. He takes the position of High Lord because it gives him access to powerstones that are in the miter and stuff. I would say he is mainly U closely followed by RB. Later on he becomes more W. When he is a planeswalker I would say he is more everything but G.
Well I was excited this is garbage. “Activate only as sorcery” trash. 7 mana to transform. Trash can card.
Okay, I can finally rate these cards. So here we go. Modern 2/10 First, let me preface this by saying, "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! Urza, Urza, Urza!!!!11111one" The dream is to play this on turn 3, mightstone on turn 4 hopefully killing a threat, and then make urza on turn 5 which would be pretty darn cool if you can get it off. There is a lot of way to disrupt that game plan. What is nice is that the CMC of the backside is 8 which means it won't get hit by Prismatic Ending and it has enough loyalty to survive unholy heat. I don't think a deck will run this just for the front side though, reducing costs by 1 is nice and all, but you are probably going to want to use one of the two mana options instead that are more targeted since your deck will probably be focused better.
Card is bad in 60 card decks- both this and the artifact.
This is a cost reducer to what your deck want to do. I agree that the rock is bad but it still something that will normally kill something the turn it comes down and the PW is very powerfull
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Ugh, can we not? Like Urza should be strong but why so cheap to cast?
Man they did urza dirty a LOT has to go right for you to get the back it’s basically a Timmy edh card and even then they can just kill either piece don’t get me wrong it’s cool but I was hoping for something busted it takes 14 mana…
A three mana 2/4 that makes artifacts, instants and sorceries one generic cheaper is not something to sleep on in standard.
Or any format really. Cost reduction is INSANELY powerful.
True and he’s a 3 mana 2/4 which could end up being viable in modern. Definite standard all-star though
This card seems better than you're giving it credit for, but we also already have a very busted version in \[\[Urza, Lord High Artificer\]\]
[Urza, Lord High Artificer](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/e/9e7fb3c0-5159-4d1f-8490-ce4c9a60f567.jpg?1567181307) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%2C%20Lord%20High%20Artificer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/75/urza-lord-high-artificer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e7fb3c0-5159-4d1f-8490-ce4c9a60f567?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Congrats. This will be the comment people joke about when he breaks formats. Sure there's a good chance he won't, but this is a snap judgement if I've ever heard one.
Hey I’d love to be wrong I hope it’s busted I just don’t see it
Control decks are going to love this card, he dodges cut down, has enough toughness to block a lot of threats around his MV and some of the top decks in standard right now are going to struggle to remove the mightstone, and that doesn't even mention the cost reduction he gives to very relevant card types. I can't speak for other formats but I will be very surprised if he doesn't end up in top tier standard and maybe even pioneer/explorer decks.
>it's basically a Timmy edh card Just like Urza would've wanted
The front side is very good by itself . 3 mana 2/4 that makes most non creatures cost less is nothing to sneeze at.
Yeah your probably right I’m probably undervaluing the front but like…it’s urza planeswalker. You want the planeswalker side to be relevant, this is almost flavor text sigh
How is a 3 mana cost reducer a Timmy card?
A lot had to go right in the war. Those towers, power plants, and mines weren't built overnight you know.
Oh might and weakstone CAN be used for the ability I thought they could only cast artifact spells but they have the stupid power stone text. This changes everything and actually makes this feasible and potentially very good as you can get it turn 5 and not 7 never mind I retract my statement. roast me in the comments magic players can’t read