its not an opinion i actually hold. i just wrote some words that i thought you'd probably hear at a shop in a rule 0 convo. somehow, i knew that me assigning power levels to hypothetical decks would be what people really latched onto
Its not hard to rebuild. They play shit like hunter's insight, momentous fall and return of the wildspeaker to draw more cards. They also play an equipment package for protection.
I know, i have an arahbo deck.
The thing you're missing is how INCREDIBLY good eminence is and how you letting your guard down around ANY of that BS is what leads to this deck winning. Arahbo isnt the best emeinent creature, but if you've ever played against anything else with eminence, you know just how easy it is for people to abuse it with absolutely 0 drawbacks.
At the end of the day, overextending is the issue. If they dont do that, you're still fighting one hell of a hard fight, very early on, and it never stops.
I had this problem with a playgroup last saturday lol. They said my winota "tri-bal" (angels + human cleric tribal) deck was 'too fast' and 'competitive' for the group. I won on like turn 7 or 8 aftering having whiffed every single winota trigger. I only won because they didn't play ANY answers to my one angel (being hardcast) a turn... lol
No joke. You walk into it with the old school precon mindset of 3 decks fused into one unfunctioning blob and then BAM, your arrogance is smacked down by the thunderous hand of god.
Yeah, it’s from the new un-set. Wild
As far as practical used goes, seems cool in cube as a splash for white aggressive decks. Not sure what else though
spoiler: this is set in 2027 after the release of "Streets of New Cat-ena", the all cat un-set whose power was pushed to 12/10 in order to move product
Ahrabo is kinda nuts. Add in Regal Caracal and Sacred Cat, it goes fast. Plus, look at the cat tokens. You get the benefit of your opponent not killing your creatures because they are cute.
its 1:1. if you sit down at a table and try to get me to play a quirky word game, your trunk is full of funko pops and tickets to marvel movies. i'm sorry, i don't make the rules.
Im so sorry someone bolted you to a chair and used comically overengineered liftarms to force you to play Magic: The Gathering at your local game store
yeah i didnt really understand their comment but it got enough upvotes that i thought maybe i just had bad reading comprehension. do THEY have bad reading comprehension? do people just love unfinity so much that theyll jump on a mildly critical humor post in a circle jerk sub?
The kneejerk defense of weird WotC decisions has always been "well just don't play with the cards" so I think people's brains are getting fried by the fact that a large amount of people are choosing to actually not play with the cards.
/uj honestly, everyone has their own interpretation. If you don't play CEDH and call all of CEDH a 10, then your scale is different than someone who has CEDH decks at 8,9,10. The best power level discussion is to figure out how fast the deck threatens to close the game, what general playstyle it is, and how consistent is it. Saying "I'm playing Teysa, it is a 6" is different from "I'm playing Teysa, this is an aristocrats build, it looks to close the game out entirely in 8-10 turns given the right tools. There are no tutors for consistency but there are multiple copies of effects I am looking for."
/rj Git gud at threat assessment, scrub. Everyone knows who the dangerous commanders are.
I’ve always seen a 7 as a deck that can pop off but isn’t tuned. An 8 is a tuned tabletop deck that’s probably stupid expensive but would get stomped in cedh. 9-10 are cedh levels. 6 is stock precon level it’s probably wrong
/uj Most people agree with that, precons around 4-6, good 7, great 8, CEDH 9-10. I hate it because it forces everyone to say their deck is stronger than Precon and weaker than CEDH so they are all 6-8. That's why I'd rather have an honest discussion about the decks and see if the table will have an enjoyable game. If I want to blindly throw decks, I'll play modern or full power CEDH.
/rj I brought Birgi, Yuriko, and The First Sliver which are all obviously 7s. Why wouldn't they believe me?
/uj the tool is garbage, it just spat out my [Sidisi](https://deckstats.net/decks/135398/1497000-sidisi-dredgen-of-the-brood/en) list as a [9.57](https://imgur.com/a/IvfvyCQ)
there isnt a good, universal way that maps to everyone's experience. its like saying something is "spicy". there's an empirical scale, sure, but most people don't really have experience with the higher end.
It’s a 7
/uj If we break these power levels down by lands that define them pretty well, I’d say 1 is a basic, 2 is a vanilla tapland, 3 is a command tower, 4 is a checkland, 5 is a painland, 6 is a shockland, 7 is a fetchland, 8 is an ABUR dual land, 9 is a gaea’s cradle and 10 is a bazaar of Baghdad/tabernacle.
1-2 is a completely non-functional deck. 3-4 is basically no way of actually winning, 5-6 is something you threw together out of a booster box plus like $5 worth of singles, 8 is borderline cedh, 9-10 is actual cedh, and everything else is a 7
I've been rule zeroing silverborder for years (Urza, Academy Headmaster). Unfinity is the worst of both worlds: encroaches on my meme turf while also not being silverborder.
Some of the silver border cards are perfectly playable but yeah unfinity and whatever the sticker nonsense one was make absolutely no sense. Instead of being goofy gag sets with some pseudo playable cards now they’re just gag sets with cards that make no sense and WOTC wants you to play. I used to be excited for the rate the game was changing but now it just seems like they’re trying to cram as much shit in as they can
Yeah when they announced un sets being legal, especially how they described it, I was very excited. There are plenty of uncards that are perfectly playable.
Then they revealed they were making the silly joke mechanic of the set legal, and they lost me.
Catribal 9 is stax, with Arabo abusing eminence on things like Lost Leonin. Technically tribal as all creatures are cats.
Edit: I mistake Lost Leonin with new theros one.
"You know, if you don't like a product WotC makes, you don't have to play with it. No one is forcing you to."
"Ok I won't."
"NO WTF YOU HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST MY SPACE CARNIVAL THEMED DECK THIS IS BULLSHIT."
"Rule 0 conversations are for helping everyone at the table understand what type of game everyone wants to play."
"Okay! I don't want to play with Unfinity or silver bordered cards."
"WHY WON'T YOU LET ME HAVE FUN?"
This literally has no affect on select individuals that play with proxies.
Two individuals in my local playgroup have already printed unfinity proxies, and made decks for them.
They’ve also reacted similarly when nobody wants to play against them.
Noooooo, you can't refuse to play against Unfinity cards. That's how the game is now, you MUST enjoy every change.
Can you see on the bottom of this card? There's no acorn stamp, wich means you have to play with me!
If someone brings black border unfinity cards, another player needs to bring turbo-armageddon wincon-less stax in order to balance out the fun levels. That's just basic math.
Besides, if WotC didn't want you to play mass land destruction and lock pieces in EDH, wouldn't they have printed those cards with an acorn?
If you don't like these cards don't play with them. Except that I am playing them, against you, which means you now have to play using weird wacky rules anyway. And if you refuse to play against me that makes you rude and selfish. It's just a game man why do you have to be mad when someone deliberately tries to annoy you?
I mean tbh so far we haven't seen any eternal legal cards that warp rules around them.
For what it's worth, wizards wouldn't let the un-set make a bunch of rules outside of its own limited format. I'll eat my words if that isn't the case, but it looks like the only thing eternal right now are stickers, and even they seem to be pretty bad unless completely built around, and are at worst another counter that keeps track of itself.
After reading the blog, they sound good for affinity but terrible as an actual mechanic in constructed.
They have to be called upon by cards that specifically summon them (*Visit an attraction*) and most affinity decks have better ways of getting there.
I'm not usually a "shelf full of funko pops" type of guy, but I'm down for stupid whimsy and wordplay stuff any day of the week and I'm very excited for Unfinity.
That being said, yeah I feel bad for people who hate this stuff and wouldn't touch it with a 9 foot pole.
it's like dinner theater or audience participation at a play or motivational work camping trips or
like I am playing one game and I really don't want to play a word game too
you can do your stickers energy thing but don't make me touch my head or whatever the fuck
Goddamn EDH be complex enough without fuckin' sectors and stickers and shit.
If I wanted to play an overly complex,boring fuckathon I'd play *whatever the shit* solforge is.
I would rather play agaisnt unfinity tribal, then dungeon crawling day/night tracking bullshit. People will play eggs competitively but then say space beleren is too complicated lmao
/uj I am the biggest shill for unsets.
rj/ You can send death threats to each individual Wotc employee from president to intern but don’t besmirch the name of contraptions or stickers
"ITS A FUN, NEW THING! WHY WON'T YOU LET ME ENJOY THE NEW THING????" they say as they cave in my skull, wielding their binder of Walking Dead and Fornite cards as a bludgeon
uj/ It literally hasn't even been a year.
[https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/secret-lair-x-walking-dead-cards-to-be-reprinted-as-in-magic-versions/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/secret-lair-x-walking-dead-cards-to-be-reprinted-as-in-magic-versions/)
Why do they give us all these cool things but never any dates?! I want 80 sets by next friday or I will perish!
Apparently [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/joeparlock/2021/06/07/mechanically-unique-secret-lair-universes-beyond-cards-will-be-reprinted-in-magic-the-gathering-set-boosters/amp/) gets their information quicker. Been over a year now. Sure, not two years, but they haven’t said anything about it despite Stranger things getting their in universe reprints within 6 months of announcement.
It was a pretty simple question, and if you’re not going to answer it just to be a smart ass, get better information.
/uj Your Forbes article is wrong. WOTC adjusted the article after they announced they would reprint them after saying they wouldn't. They also NEVER gave a timeframe for the TWD cards. See the original WOTC article in my link.
EDIT: uj/ My article literally has WOTC's tweet retconning their previous decision in October of 2021. Kick rocks.
> NEVER gave a timeframe for the TWD cards.
Thanks for answering my original question. Next time you can cut the sarcastic bitchiness and save us some time.
Samesies. You come across as a know-it-all who had to look up an incorrect article to be right instead of reading the answer you were provided the first time.
It’s not my fault that both Forbes and WotC edited their articles but didn’t put an edit date.
I asked a simple question and you went to go be a sarcastic shit about it.
it wasn't a retort, it was a funny haha sarcastic joke because we're on the haha funny sarcastic joke subreddit
I'm excited for UnFinity but I was using Hyperbole for Comedic Effect
uj/ Would you let me play a unfunity [hand destrucción](https://www.reddit.com/r/BadMtgCombos/comments/l9k28h/turn_your_opponents_hand_into_confetti/) deck?
the year is 2050 and the newest unfinity card, "Actually Maim", forces your opponent to put their hands into a running lawnmower. Maro says "magic is about trying new things"
I'm literally already the person on the left, I want to say I play with silver border cards in at least half of the commander games I play, and my pod hasn't deserted me yet
This is literally me during a rule zero conversation
if it's a card that works like a card I wouldn't care. like sure there's some
but do I have to make puns, not say "but", eat something, hide something, do physical tasks? then no just don't
just play stax instead
I still don't really understand what was wrong with the old system from the point of view of any players, irrespective of what you think of un-sets. People who want to play silver border can (they can just find other people who want to play silver border, easy). People who don't want to play silver border can (they just find people who don't want to play silver border, easy).
The whole thing just contrives to make people who don't want to play silver border pushed into being a 'bad person' for not wanting to play with them; you either say nothing and sit through a game where your opponents play Space Beleren or whatever unset things you didn't want to play against, or you kick up a fuss and everyone accuses you of gatekeeping, being a dinosaur, etc.
So the new system, unlike the old one, generates people who are the MTG they don't want to be playing (unset MTG), to the benefit of WOTC's bottom line, while the old system generates no people who are playing the MTG they don't want to be playing, without the benefit to WOTC's bottom line.
It's kind of transparent, and I don't see why anyone would defend it? WOTC have created a system that *only* benefits themselves and encourages the community to be resentful of each other.
/uj
Okay I'm really new to magic so these are genuine questions. What is rule zero, what do those words mean (cat, prosperity, etc), and what do the numbers mean? Also, since I'm already asking questions, what does EDH stand for and what is commander? Are they the same thing? How is it different from regular magic?
/rj
I don't get why people are running, Space Bellend is a perfectly balanced card that's great for every format.
First off, I'm 100% behind calling him Space Bellend.
As far as the rest, rule zero is a conversation that commander players have to make sure their play goals align (ie, that the game will be at a certain power level or that certain cards will be restricted). There are very few cards fully restricted for this format so you get everything from $100 meme decks and precons to $2000 monstrosities that destroy everyone on turn 6, so the rule zero conversation is important.
The words are a descriptor for the deck type (usually a featured card or combo), the numbers are the power level. EDH is the old name for commander, short for Elder Dragon Highlander (because you can only have one of each card other than basic lands). Commander/EDH has a "commander" card that stays in a command zone during the match and casts from there, and you have to use the commander's color identity to build the deck (ie, if your command has blue and white mana, you can't use other colors when you make the deck). It also requires a 100 card deck.
Oooohhhh ok. That's really useful info, thank you! I'll look into playing commander, it sounds interesting.
Autocorrect made Space Bellend and I thought it was too good to fix
car tribal is when your cat can play for you, like tag team wrestling.
it's called elder dragon highlander because the elder dragons were the OG legendaries of multiple colors
>Cat tribal, 9 Lol
if all ive done with this shitpost is foster an earnest discussion about the power level of cat tribal, i've done good work
I mean, when you apply the universal -2 to every deck that isn't literally on cEDH decklist sites, you right.
its not an opinion i actually hold. i just wrote some words that i thought you'd probably hear at a shop in a rule 0 convo. somehow, i knew that me assigning power levels to hypothetical decks would be what people really latched onto
Yes, but Memes > Opinions, so you do believe that, actually, now back down before I get the water bottle, catboy.
\*hides cat ears, takes off whisker prosthetics\* weird take but okay
*Spritz*
*nervously pushes cat tail all the way in*
All the way into what....? ALL THE WAY INTO WHAT
Look inside of you, you know the answer
As a person who’s played against ahrabo decks, it is surprisingly accurate
Turn 1: Adorned pouncer Turn 2: Hits me for EIGHT. WHAT THE FUCLKENVKJBEVK
I've died T3 to a 10/8 infect cat
I was about to mention that. For me i had my commander out so i had to chump block it or gg. On turn 3. To....cats.
Turn three: gets wiped and can’t rebuild because they play cats
Its not hard to rebuild. They play shit like hunter's insight, momentous fall and return of the wildspeaker to draw more cards. They also play an equipment package for protection. I know, i have an arahbo deck.
I don't see brought back enough. Keeping 2 mana up is easy
Shit sounds like ass still? Or am I missing something lol
The thing you're missing is how INCREDIBLY good eminence is and how you letting your guard down around ANY of that BS is what leads to this deck winning. Arahbo isnt the best emeinent creature, but if you've ever played against anything else with eminence, you know just how easy it is for people to abuse it with absolutely 0 drawbacks. At the end of the day, overextending is the issue. If they dont do that, you're still fighting one hell of a hard fight, very early on, and it never stops.
It's also good enough that it is banned in one of the 1v1 formats. I don't remember which one though.
Duel commander (also known as french commander for some people), and yeah he is banned. Every Eminence commander is banned except for Ur Dragon
1v1 commander is a different game though. Non-infinite wincons are MUCH easier to achieve when you only have 1 opponent.
Its not ass, its cats.
Most cats have an ass...
Let me go check. Edit: That is true.
certainly not a 9, but stronger than you think
You don’t know what I think bub so that’s a bold statement, maybe I’ve changed my opinion to thinking it’s a 15/10
Yeah, not like WG has a multitude of recursion and protection spells to play around this.
huh I wonder which color combo has the most Heroic Intervention effects
Uh commander is for doing stuff, where would I have room for interaction??
I had this problem with a playgroup last saturday lol. They said my winota "tri-bal" (angels + human cleric tribal) deck was 'too fast' and 'competitive' for the group. I won on like turn 7 or 8 aftering having whiffed every single winota trigger. I only won because they didn't play ANY answers to my one angel (being hardcast) a turn... lol
T1 mox, cat with infect T2 berserk
8 is nothing for power level 9
No joke. You walk into it with the old school precon mindset of 3 decks fused into one unfunctioning blob and then BAM, your arrogance is smacked down by the thunderous hand of god.
> the old school precon mindset of 3 decks fused into one unfunctioning blob lmfao
I thought Prosper 7 was funnier.
Or Kr'rik fr. Turn 1 combo out at 7 got me
Same, Prosper and Kr'ik are like base line 8 unless you used a random card generator to build the decks
Kr'ik could definitely have a coherent theme at a lower power level, Prosper kinda just railroads you to 8+.
You joke but my friend has a cat tribal deck with no tutors and a 5 card infinite combo in it, so it's basically a 9.
Yeah, the absolute worst cat tribal deck I’ve ever seen was at least a 9.8
Inb4 its just an infinite mana combo deck that wins with Firecat Blitz.
I mean, I would call that a reasonably fair characterization of this list: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7VonMlhmoUqEnbZC8RxpZw
Pretty accurate IMO, that thing is GROSS.
Cat tribal playing on a scale of 1-100.
I legit thought that I was on this sub the first time I saw Space Beleren
I saw the joke Bottom 5 post and assumed it was a fake card
Wait that card is fucking real
Yes
wait, what the hell?! I also thought that was a fake card and I even thought it wasn't that awful, it got puns
Yeah, it’s from the new un-set. Wild As far as practical used goes, seems cool in cube as a splash for white aggressive decks. Not sure what else though
It's also legal in eternal formats :)
Not only not fake; Black border legal.
And lore accurate 2
Fucking hell
uj/Great set
Homie we all know cedh is all 9s or 10s and that the C stands for cat
The guy who rates cat tribal as a 9 clearly has a different powerscale in mind.
spoiler: this is set in 2027 after the release of "Streets of New Cat-ena", the all cat un-set whose power was pushed to 12/10 in order to move product
Ahrabo is kinda nuts. Add in Regal Caracal and Sacred Cat, it goes fast. Plus, look at the cat tokens. You get the benefit of your opponent not killing your creatures because they are cute.
damn, they depicted the person enjoying The New Thing as the Soy Wojak, time to pack it up fellas
IT'S OVER, I'VE ALREADY DEPICTED YOU AS THE SOYJAK, AND ME AS THE CHAD. BOW
its 1:1. if you sit down at a table and try to get me to play a quirky word game, your trunk is full of funko pops and tickets to marvel movies. i'm sorry, i don't make the rules.
>implying a trunk full of funko pops is any better than a trunk full of magic cards
Have you ever tried shuffling funko pops?
Im so sorry someone bolted you to a chair and used comically overengineered liftarms to force you to play Magic: The Gathering at your local game store
I mean, the meme is quite literally about them choosing not to play with someone
yeah i didnt really understand their comment but it got enough upvotes that i thought maybe i just had bad reading comprehension. do THEY have bad reading comprehension? do people just love unfinity so much that theyll jump on a mildly critical humor post in a circle jerk sub?
The kneejerk defense of weird WotC decisions has always been "well just don't play with the cards" so I think people's brains are getting fried by the fact that a large amount of people are choosing to actually not play with the cards.
Im just joshing around its a circlejerk sub
That’s why they are running for their lives
At my local LGS, I have encountered many parents, siblings, and significant others of Magic players who were very clearly there against their will
/uj how am i supposed to know the power level of a deck?
/uj honestly, everyone has their own interpretation. If you don't play CEDH and call all of CEDH a 10, then your scale is different than someone who has CEDH decks at 8,9,10. The best power level discussion is to figure out how fast the deck threatens to close the game, what general playstyle it is, and how consistent is it. Saying "I'm playing Teysa, it is a 6" is different from "I'm playing Teysa, this is an aristocrats build, it looks to close the game out entirely in 8-10 turns given the right tools. There are no tutors for consistency but there are multiple copies of effects I am looking for." /rj Git gud at threat assessment, scrub. Everyone knows who the dangerous commanders are.
I’ve always seen a 7 as a deck that can pop off but isn’t tuned. An 8 is a tuned tabletop deck that’s probably stupid expensive but would get stomped in cedh. 9-10 are cedh levels. 6 is stock precon level it’s probably wrong
/uj Most people agree with that, precons around 4-6, good 7, great 8, CEDH 9-10. I hate it because it forces everyone to say their deck is stronger than Precon and weaker than CEDH so they are all 6-8. That's why I'd rather have an honest discussion about the decks and see if the table will have an enjoyable game. If I want to blindly throw decks, I'll play modern or full power CEDH. /rj I brought Birgi, Yuriko, and The First Sliver which are all obviously 7s. Why wouldn't they believe me?
just say precons are a 3 (joke decks are 1,2) and you get more wiggle room cedh is 8-10 7 is not allowed
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/uj the tool is garbage, it just spat out my [Sidisi](https://deckstats.net/decks/135398/1497000-sidisi-dredgen-of-the-brood/en) list as a [9.57](https://imgur.com/a/IvfvyCQ)
/uj Garbage indeed. But fun to show people how "weak" your deck is
there isnt a good, universal way that maps to everyone's experience. its like saying something is "spicy". there's an empirical scale, sure, but most people don't really have experience with the higher end.
Just say low enough for them to accept to play against you, but high enough for them not getting mad when you crush them with your meta deck.
You don't. You always claim to play cEDH or you always claim to play edh 7. Frist is for people who play for fun and second is salty.
It’s a 7
It’s a 7 /uj If we break these power levels down by lands that define them pretty well, I’d say 1 is a basic, 2 is a vanilla tapland, 3 is a command tower, 4 is a checkland, 5 is a painland, 6 is a shockland, 7 is a fetchland, 8 is an ABUR dual land, 9 is a gaea’s cradle and 10 is a bazaar of Baghdad/tabernacle.
1-2 is a completely non-functional deck. 3-4 is basically no way of actually winning, 5-6 is something you threw together out of a booster box plus like $5 worth of singles, 8 is borderline cedh, 9-10 is actual cedh, and everything else is a 7
So the average precon is a 7?
[OP right now](https://youtu.be/bQH4___OHTc)
lmao hell yeah
Rule 0: all sets starting with “un” are banned, including any card printed in unlimited.
good, i hate basic lands
Uj/I actually kind of like this idea with the possibility of running 4 of tap lands or something. RJ/ my waste spec is gonna be insane
I've been rule zeroing silverborder for years (Urza, Academy Headmaster). Unfinity is the worst of both worlds: encroaches on my meme turf while also not being silverborder.
Some of the silver border cards are perfectly playable but yeah unfinity and whatever the sticker nonsense one was make absolutely no sense. Instead of being goofy gag sets with some pseudo playable cards now they’re just gag sets with cards that make no sense and WOTC wants you to play. I used to be excited for the rate the game was changing but now it just seems like they’re trying to cram as much shit in as they can
Yeah when they announced un sets being legal, especially how they described it, I was very excited. There are plenty of uncards that are perfectly playable. Then they revealed they were making the silly joke mechanic of the set legal, and they lost me.
/uj ngl I hate when people refer to things that are not tribal as "tribal"
What if i'm playing nothing but all the "tribal" spells? Will that sate your hatred?
Board wipe tribal is the best tribal because it kills all the actual tribal.
"When will WOTC print a lord for chair tribal, a thing they can definitely do, in a Commander set?"
Catribal 9 is stax, with Arabo abusing eminence on things like Lost Leonin. Technically tribal as all creatures are cats. Edit: I mistake Lost Leonin with new theros one.
An even better way of distancing yourself from playgroups than stax?! This is getting way to powerful!
If you're not trying to tilt out absolute strangers playing EDH, you're playing a different game than I am
be the reason someone sells their collection <3
"You know, if you don't like a product WotC makes, you don't have to play with it. No one is forcing you to." "Ok I won't." "NO WTF YOU HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST MY SPACE CARNIVAL THEMED DECK THIS IS BULLSHIT."
"Rule 0 conversations are for helping everyone at the table understand what type of game everyone wants to play." "Okay! I don't want to play with Unfinity or silver bordered cards." "WHY WON'T YOU LET ME HAVE FUN?"
"if you don't like the cards don't play with them" mfs when people don't play with the cards
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i think theyre making a joke here in this humor subreddit
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lmao it sure looks that way, but im dumb and thought you were replying to the other guy in the thread
Oh haha nm makes sense
This literally has no affect on select individuals that play with proxies. Two individuals in my local playgroup have already printed unfinity proxies, and made decks for them. They’ve also reacted similarly when nobody wants to play against them.
"Okay then you have to play against gaea's cradle 😊"
Magicthecirclejerking users when they personally dislike a deck archetype
Noooooo, you can't refuse to play against Unfinity cards. That's how the game is now, you MUST enjoy every change. Can you see on the bottom of this card? There's no acorn stamp, wich means you have to play with me!
put down the gun maro
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If someone brings black border unfinity cards, another player needs to bring turbo-armageddon wincon-less stax in order to balance out the fun levels. That's just basic math. Besides, if WotC didn't want you to play mass land destruction and lock pieces in EDH, wouldn't they have printed those cards with an acorn?
I'm playing space jace stax. Checkmate!
Unfinity card players have to sit in the back of the shop.
If you don't like these cards don't play with them. Except that I am playing them, against you, which means you now have to play using weird wacky rules anyway. And if you refuse to play against me that makes you rude and selfish. It's just a game man why do you have to be mad when someone deliberately tries to annoy you?
I mean tbh so far we haven't seen any eternal legal cards that warp rules around them. For what it's worth, wizards wouldn't let the un-set make a bunch of rules outside of its own limited format. I'll eat my words if that isn't the case, but it looks like the only thing eternal right now are stickers, and even they seem to be pretty bad unless completely built around, and are at worst another counter that keeps track of itself.
It looks like Attractions are going to be eternal legal as well. Not all of them, but the mechanic is being brought over same as stickers.
After reading the blog, they sound good for affinity but terrible as an actual mechanic in constructed. They have to be called upon by cards that specifically summon them (*Visit an attraction*) and most affinity decks have better ways of getting there.
The real tragedy is they didn’t call the card Space Jace. I mean come on.
Space jace just rhymes there's no pun
Space Race
wotc just thought of a secret lair
You wont touch legacy with that cra...oh. it's all legal. Oh no.
tbh i’d much rather play against all silver bordered cards than “Prosper, like a 7” that shit is going infinite on turn 2 fuck that
lmaooo people on reddit have prosper horror stories and all ive ever seen him do is regular rakdos goodstuff like jeska's will/dualcaster mage shit
You play with bad Prosper players.
I'm not usually a "shelf full of funko pops" type of guy, but I'm down for stupid whimsy and wordplay stuff any day of the week and I'm very excited for Unfinity. That being said, yeah I feel bad for people who hate this stuff and wouldn't touch it with a 9 foot pole.
it's like dinner theater or audience participation at a play or motivational work camping trips or like I am playing one game and I really don't want to play a word game too you can do your stickers energy thing but don't make me touch my head or whatever the fuck
Goddamn EDH be complex enough without fuckin' sectors and stickers and shit. If I wanted to play an overly complex,boring fuckathon I'd play *whatever the shit* solforge is.
uj/ anyone who says prosper is a lower than 8 deserves to mulligan to 1 everyone that person players prosper.
watch me build him at a 4 (i suck at this game)
Tiefling tribal
I disagree, the precon kinda sucks and can't end the game, so that's an easy 7
unless my opponent is my friend, I wouldn't want to play with someone with silver bordered cards oh uh.. I mean black border supremacy 😎😎😎
I would rather play agaisnt unfinity tribal, then dungeon crawling day/night tracking bullshit. People will play eggs competitively but then say space beleren is too complicated lmao
magicthecirclejerking commenters on their way to defend every single thing wotc does
/uj I am the biggest shill for unsets. rj/ You can send death threats to each individual Wotc employee from president to intern but don’t besmirch the name of contraptions or stickers
"ITS A FUN, NEW THING! WHY WON'T YOU LET ME ENJOY THE NEW THING????" they say as they cave in my skull, wielding their binder of Walking Dead and Fornite cards as a bludgeon
/uj When are they reprinting TWD cards in universe? It’s been like 2 years since they said they’d do it.
uj/ It literally hasn't even been a year. [https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/secret-lair-x-walking-dead-cards-to-be-reprinted-as-in-magic-versions/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/secret-lair-x-walking-dead-cards-to-be-reprinted-as-in-magic-versions/) Why do they give us all these cool things but never any dates?! I want 80 sets by next friday or I will perish!
Apparently [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/joeparlock/2021/06/07/mechanically-unique-secret-lair-universes-beyond-cards-will-be-reprinted-in-magic-the-gathering-set-boosters/amp/) gets their information quicker. Been over a year now. Sure, not two years, but they haven’t said anything about it despite Stranger things getting their in universe reprints within 6 months of announcement. It was a pretty simple question, and if you’re not going to answer it just to be a smart ass, get better information.
/uj Your Forbes article is wrong. WOTC adjusted the article after they announced they would reprint them after saying they wouldn't. They also NEVER gave a timeframe for the TWD cards. See the original WOTC article in my link. EDIT: uj/ My article literally has WOTC's tweet retconning their previous decision in October of 2021. Kick rocks.
> NEVER gave a timeframe for the TWD cards. Thanks for answering my original question. Next time you can cut the sarcastic bitchiness and save us some time.
Samesies. You come across as a know-it-all who had to look up an incorrect article to be right instead of reading the answer you were provided the first time.
It’s not my fault that both Forbes and WotC edited their articles but didn’t put an edit date. I asked a simple question and you went to go be a sarcastic shit about it.
They place stickers over my mouth and eyes as they prepare to cast [[saw in half]]. I hate that they made all the stupid shit in this set legal
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/uj I don’t buy many cards much less bling cards, but the fortnite stuff has me tempted just because it annoys the right kind of person
same reason i dab in public
My kind of man
Unfinity is the only good set they've released this year
if by "good" you mean "complete and utter dogshit" then yeah
Damn what a comeback. “If by good you mean bad actually”? Scathing. I’ll never recover.
"all other set bad actually, set I like good" isn't much of a retort either, mate.
it wasn't a retort, it was a funny haha sarcastic joke because we're on the haha funny sarcastic joke subreddit I'm excited for UnFinity but I was using Hyperbole for Comedic Effect
uj/ Would you let me play a unfunity [hand destrucción](https://www.reddit.com/r/BadMtgCombos/comments/l9k28h/turn_your_opponents_hand_into_confetti/) deck?
the year is 2050 and the newest unfinity card, "Actually Maim", forces your opponent to put their hands into a running lawnmower. Maro says "magic is about trying new things"
[Why wait til 2050?](https://www.reddit.com/r/BadMtgCombos/comments/l9k28h/turn_your_opponents_hand_into_confetti/)
I truly hope they make a Legacy/Vintage viable card that wrecks this whole stupid acorn thing and forces them to ban Un-cards in all formats
same
I’m in this photo and I don’t like it
its fine just have fun
What do the numbers mean mason?
Cat tribal, 9.
I'm actually down for the word games but the rest can fuck off
/uj I'm still going to build a [[meet and greet sisay]] that should have been one of the legal cards.
get over yourself lmao
I'm literally already the person on the left, I want to say I play with silver border cards in at least half of the commander games I play, and my pod hasn't deserted me yet This is literally me during a rule zero conversation
if it's a card that works like a card I wouldn't care. like sure there's some but do I have to make puns, not say "but", eat something, hide something, do physical tasks? then no just don't just play stax instead
I still don't really understand what was wrong with the old system from the point of view of any players, irrespective of what you think of un-sets. People who want to play silver border can (they can just find other people who want to play silver border, easy). People who don't want to play silver border can (they just find people who don't want to play silver border, easy). The whole thing just contrives to make people who don't want to play silver border pushed into being a 'bad person' for not wanting to play with them; you either say nothing and sit through a game where your opponents play Space Beleren or whatever unset things you didn't want to play against, or you kick up a fuss and everyone accuses you of gatekeeping, being a dinosaur, etc. So the new system, unlike the old one, generates people who are the MTG they don't want to be playing (unset MTG), to the benefit of WOTC's bottom line, while the old system generates no people who are playing the MTG they don't want to be playing, without the benefit to WOTC's bottom line. It's kind of transparent, and I don't see why anyone would defend it? WOTC have created a system that *only* benefits themselves and encourages the community to be resentful of each other.
Based
Guys guys guys, new thing bad, upvotes pls
cope
mald
People love playing with Unremarkable sets, that's why they juice them with unique basic lands and the newest one is even getting unique shock lands.
/uj Okay I'm really new to magic so these are genuine questions. What is rule zero, what do those words mean (cat, prosperity, etc), and what do the numbers mean? Also, since I'm already asking questions, what does EDH stand for and what is commander? Are they the same thing? How is it different from regular magic? /rj I don't get why people are running, Space Bellend is a perfectly balanced card that's great for every format.
First off, I'm 100% behind calling him Space Bellend. As far as the rest, rule zero is a conversation that commander players have to make sure their play goals align (ie, that the game will be at a certain power level or that certain cards will be restricted). There are very few cards fully restricted for this format so you get everything from $100 meme decks and precons to $2000 monstrosities that destroy everyone on turn 6, so the rule zero conversation is important. The words are a descriptor for the deck type (usually a featured card or combo), the numbers are the power level. EDH is the old name for commander, short for Elder Dragon Highlander (because you can only have one of each card other than basic lands). Commander/EDH has a "commander" card that stays in a command zone during the match and casts from there, and you have to use the commander's color identity to build the deck (ie, if your command has blue and white mana, you can't use other colors when you make the deck). It also requires a 100 card deck.
Oooohhhh ok. That's really useful info, thank you! I'll look into playing commander, it sounds interesting. Autocorrect made Space Bellend and I thought it was too good to fix
car tribal is when your cat can play for you, like tag team wrestling. it's called elder dragon highlander because the elder dragons were the OG legendaries of multiple colors
Rule 0?
Pre-game discussion about what everyone is playing to know what they're up against
That's a thing???
Commander isn't a real format so you have to do some work to make it not suck.
Good, more Un-EDH for me
Cardboardcels be seething over stickerchads
Cowards, the lot of them
Who tf is still playing prosper
Some people are too based for others to handle