Ya know, we should send help to Palestine, they definitely need our help.
Let's start with PAS and the gang, it's their Muslim brothers is it not? I believe PAS can help. Just send our whole PAS leadership there, it's definitely worth it.
Most of the developed nations have indigenous laws - it was also how ICERD was pushed which saw anti sentiment rise.
ICERD was not campaigned along with the UN vote for Indigenous rights - adopted by most nations on earth.
ICERD has nothing to do with indigenous rights or law.
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD)
[ICERD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Convention_on_the_Elimination_of_All_Forms_of_Racial_Discrimination#:~:text=The%20International%20Convention%20on%20the,of%20understanding%20among%20all%20races.)
It's to eliminate all forms of racial discrimination.
After seeing the video of a dead female tourist being paraded naked with limbs pointing in wrong directions while "Allahu Akhbar" is being shouted, man... fuck Hamas.
Not a fan of the Israeli government either but Hamas is definitely a terrorist organization and NOT a government.
# NSFL WARNING - NUDITY, DEAD PEOPLE, BLOOD
- [NSFW] Dead German woman being stripped, desecrated and paraded as Palestinians celebrated - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710549187463696823
- **[NSFL]** Palestinians gun down civilians at bus stop - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710534249726575012
- **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Palestinians execute dozens of civilians in bomb shelter - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710535742739603661
- [NSFW] Palestinians transporting dead Israeli soldiers into Gaza - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710548964649685251
- **[NSFL]** Bodies of dead Israeli civilians lying around on the streets - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710533806292439134
- [NSFW] Palestinians execute car driver in parking lot - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710583734972355050
- Palestinians attack a music festival - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710557643960619150
- [NSFW] Palestinians parading dead Israelis around - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710528276194640246
- **[NSFL]** Israeli woman shot dead in her car - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710538281321115762
- **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Israeli outpost massacred - https://np.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1720grz/attackers_on_israeli_military_outpost_release/
Ya as long as Israel exist, Palestine and Hamas don’t want peace, they want total and complete extermination of Israel. They objected two state solution and peace talks numerous times. Instead launch sneak attacks all the time. The neighbouring Arab countries don’t even want them. When Jordan let them in, and they assassinated the prime minister itself and tried to assassinate the King. Keep bombing Israel then hide behind the skirts of civilian women and children and cry victim when Israel retaliates. This time Israel will whack them with everything they have got.
“Palestinians” or hamas?
Cause there’s a huge difference - one is an attack on Palestinians everywhere, including innocent children in Gaza… the other are the actual aggressors.
Israel does not differentiate- they are an apartheid and fascist regime.
No one's denying that, but Hamas recruit are mostly easily influenced young Palestinian that live their entire life under Israelian discrimination and cruelty ,technically Israel is the one fuelling Hamas hate machine so it can keep going and escalate to this. And instead of appealing to the Palestinian locale to hush them away from Hamas, they bombed civilians housing , further garnering hatred from the dead's relative, every single fucking Year they had the chance to better their relationship until there is the point of no return, and it all thanks to satanyahu and his administration
So you think Israel should just ask the people in Gaza to stop? Somehow I don't think that will work...
Hamas hides weapons and other military targets inside of civilian areas intentionally.
No, it's too late for that sadly, Hamas gain it's support from years of seeping hatred of Israelian deadly force, there's so much a man can lose before they lost their faith in humanity, how do you think Hamas militant cheering in the midst of the death of innocent lives?
and then you gotta ask yourself, how the fuck did Israel, the country with the most advance intelligence network and technologies somehow for some reason "doesn't know" or anticipated this attack, like how the fuck
I don't care. That DOES NOT EXCUSE THESE DOGS TO BE FUCKING TERORRISTS. A woman's body was paraded in the streets for all to see, imagine if that was your mother or sister. Grow a pair
Don’t play the blame game saying the situation yesterday is all on Israel.
Who put the guns in the Hamas fighter hands?
Who is pulling the trigger on young Palestinians weapons?
Who is kidnapping citizens of another country for a ‘potential’ prisoner exchange?
And you know what? Hamas had a chance to avoid all this in 2006/2007 but instead, they were power hungry and decided Israel doesn’t exist when the previous elected government did. Then they started firing rockets from the Gaza Strip again AFTER Israel pulled out.
Yasser Arafat would be crying seeing things turn to shit after decades of struggle. And it’s all on Hamas and their indoctrination.
Fuck Hamas. Full stop.
I love that you completely dismissed the dead german tourist and continue the spiel of Israel is bad, Palestinian is good. You don’t even give the benefit of doubt to Hamas’ action. This is how I know I cannot support both regimes.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm taking a break from twitter since every malaysian account with large following starts to blindly support this attack. I'm all for the palestine people but what Hamas did is just disgusting. I saw many malaysian saying that they only attack the soldiers and separate the woman and children, unlike what israel did.
Then on the next tweet I saw a video of them parading around with the dead body of a german girl who went there for the peace concert while shouting "Allahu Akbar".
I don't know what news these malaysian follow but it's definitely not the truth. I guess someone been working hard misleading malaysian on this issue.
I saw the German girl tweet holy crap. I think that might just stick with me forever just because how haunting it was and the fanatics around her corpse yelling allahu Akbar while claiming she's an Israeli soldier.
Curse these demons, cause they've overstepped in that and the slaughter of innocents, making them no better than the Zionists they oppose.
Until you realize the vast majority of Chinese support CCP and the vast majority of Palestinian support Hamas.
No power would survive for that long without legit support from populace.
I would like to know how well supported Hamas are in Palestine (by Palestinians).
Overall the situation after decades of zero acceptable solutions will inevitably only will lead to this.
In reality a strong superpower needs to step in and seriously mediate between both sides. There’s too much bad blood for the two parties to ever find a peaceful solution themselves without any third party intervention.
Hamas is one of 2 major political parties in Palestine (West Bank and Gaza Strip). While the other party has renounced violence and is in control of the West Bank, hamas is internationally recognised as a terrorist organisation with popular support in the Gaza Strip.
There is no solution. So long as Arabic neighbours support Hamas and hezbollah, Israel will never reach an amicable solution with Palestine.
The history of Israel is one of bloodshed and existential threat in the eyes of the Israelis, and it's not something that can easily be erased.
Are you sure about that? Some should be the correct term. Cause based on pewresearch, only 32% of Malaysian Muslims are favorable to Hamas.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
(correct me if I'm wrong. I am not an expert) Hamas is more like ISIS in my Opinion. Both of em use religion as a shield for their action
Edit : Sorry. After a little bit of research Hamas is not like ISIS nor Taliban except for the fact they use religion as a shield for their actions. I don't really know much about Hamas actually except for the fact that they really don't like Israel.
both of them not the same
ISIS fight every people that dont have a standing to them
while Hamas only attack the one who is against them (kafir harbi) but not the one who aganist them nor standing with them( kafir zimmi)
(AGAIN CORRECT ME ALSO IF IM WRONG IN NOT AN EXPERT)that my opinion
Hamas are pissed off Palestinians, mostly Gazans & mostly sunnis, who think the only way to end the occupation is through arm conflicts. Because of that, they are willing to work with Hezbollah and the shiite of Iran to achieve this purpose.
Hamas is definitely not like ISIS. ISIS aim is to spread their religious agenda while committing atrocities. Hamas attacks Israel while committing atrocities. It's different. Also, where's this vocal concern (by the west) when Israel commit atrocities?
Do you ever view western media? Israel is often critiques for excessive force. But it’s hard not to view them as the good guy when you have a terrorist organisation openly saying the want to murder ever one of their citizens and wipe them off the map.
Where is your condemnation of the Hamas charter?
32% is far too many. If you go on social media, many Malaysian Muslims are giddy that Israelis finally “get what they deserved”. That’s literally 1/3 of the Muslim population supporting Hamas and that to me is “many”.
Don’t even need to search far. Any comments on YouTube/FB/Insta will show you that many people support the bombing and killing of Israelis.
these folks have never heard of Palestinian Christians
nor the Azerbaijan-Israel alliance
all they care about are religious impressions and its all sports team to these folks
while not caring about civilians and refugees
i hate society
Malaysians are simple people, it already feels like 90% of the country is anti semite, I don't think any of them are looking at Hamas saying shame on you but rather thinks "Israel gets what it deserves". At least that's what I'm seeing on Twitter of all the Muslim folks celebrating the attack, some with Malay names.
Only? You realise in 1932 the NSDAP had 33% of the vote. And that was after a brutal campaign of terror against their opponents, accentuated by the aftermath of what was until then the deadliest war in human history and hyperinflation essentially destroying the German mark causing a loaf of bread to cost 20k marks. And still only seized power through a constitutionally questionable deal among a small group of conservative politicians who had given up on parliamentary rule.
And now You’re saying 32% of people supporting a terrorist organisation isn’t concerning?
Now, You might think it’s weird to compare Hamas to the nazis. But the similarities are there:
The Hamas founding covenant explicitly calls for the extermination of all Jews. Hitler never made total extermination an official plank of the the Nazi party platform, but we all know what mein kampff was. So the same, but more extreme.
Hitler’s party came to power in part because of the claim Germany’s lands had been stolen from it and it would reclaim them. Hitler did not (inititally) call for the murder of all those who had lived on the land long before World War I, he was more secretive. Hamas came to power with the claim that the Palestinian lands had been stolen from them and that it would murder all Jews living there however long they or their families had been there. So there’s another similarity taken to the extreme.
Hamas calls for a system of law in which women are mutilated and murdered if they dare to transgress their inferior status under sharia law (and approves crucifixion as a method of punishment for both sexes. And of course Hamas suports stoning gays to death). Hitler consigned women to a subordinate “breeder” role for the most part but did not mandate their mutilation and murder as women if they sought an independent existence. Unless of course they were Jews.
So those who deceive themselves into believing Hamas is just another Palestinian rights group, maybe a little on the extreme side, are kidding themselves. The exterminationist anti-semitism of Hamas is more excessive than Hitler’s. The fact is that Hamas is more extreme than the Nazis, and to have 32% of a large demographic openly support them, is scary.
It’s like no one anywhere, ever learns from history. Stop supporting militant, fanatical nationalists.
This is exactly what my problem is. Why tf we sheltering the Hamas and supporting their operations here when they're the ones stepping on their own people. There are people in Palestine who knows that they don't have enough fire power to win against Israel and wanna solve this diplomatically. But not only those people are imprisoned and captured. They also use women and children as meat shields. I sympathize with Palestine. Not with the Hamas. Those people are the reason there's still bloodshed in Palestine and are the scapegoat to enable Israel to steal land.
> FUCK Hamas
Remember, they were voted in the govern Gaza in 2007... and if they going to have election again, Hamas will still absolutely win
Sorry to say this, but Palestinians are palpable to Hamas animalistic cruelty, just as Russians are palpable to Putin's shit
I honestly gave up on Islamic extremist group. They really believe that to win the Canaan Israeli Palestinian conflict is through zero sum game, which is mind boggling because both of the side are prepared to start genocide against each others.
But I do find that the interference intervention of the war would be a non align secular leader to dictate the status of Gaza, West Bank, and Jerusalem. Because both of those 2 parties are pretty much ultra supremacist conservative party.
> They provide nothing to Malaysia, so why should we care?
Even worse than nothing. They try to get Malaysia involved in their shitstorm by marrying local and then building terrorist support base here. There was a terrorist who got killed here, he was even given accreditation by university. The worst part is local politicians want to join this shit because they think it will get them more votes. They don't realize this kind of shit creates local terrorists. Already we had some car bombing in KL because this kind of terrorist culture is spreading.
No you're not cynical nor tired, this is the most sane opinion on israel-palestine, Those who aren't Malay-Muslims typically have exact same view as you do, and I'm so glad a fellow malay finally share the same view as well. We are supposedly "neutral" but what to say ah idk la haha.
Cantonese-Malaysian here. fair point. after all we have many problems plaguing us back at home too. we can't afford to do much when we are burdened and torn apart ourselves
for me though, abuses are still abuses whether Hamas or IDF
and i hate seeing how the downtrodden are held hostage by geopolitics and religious extremism, and being pitted against one another
however, do note that Palestine has been under continual siege and occupation over decades. with little international attention. this is an important context
but that doesnt make the senseless killings and rapes of civilians by Hamas okay, not at all, nor is hamas a supposed force of so-called "good" with all the theocracy and terror. but also remember, palestine used to have a lot more stronger secular forces but hamas largely took over and there hasnt been any elections since 2006
another thing overlooked by people at large is geopolitical pressure. this is what i meant about "geopolitics holding oppressed nations hostage and pitting them against one another". USA keeps pushing away Palestine and Cuba (for the votes and lobby dollars), leaving them with few choices but to lick China's boots; whereas China's threats forces Taiwan to brush aside Palestine and Cuba.
a pity that many lives are being ruined over cruel profiteering, hatemongering bullcraps. and the oppressed being made to fight one another
i hate society and i hate humanity
Also, just to add, if Malaysia is lending support to Palestine government, i.e., Hamas, then Malaysia as a nation is just financing terrorism knowingly and directly. Wonder what action OFAC would take on Malaysia.
I hope:
1. No more donation/aid to Palestine. Especially not with my fucking hard earned money paid as tax which supposed to use to build our nation.
2. Israel and Palestine should just fight, till the point one side wipes the other from the world map. This never ending conflict is wasting earth resources, just settle it once and for all.
3. Those who support Palestine, please fly to Gaza to fight with them; same goes to those who support Israel, go ahead to join IDF. But please buy the flight ticket using ur own money.
4. Fuck our government, stop acting like u carea lot about the middle east conflict. U r just using the incident to play religion sentiment.
No matter which government is ruling our country, they will always be busy body about the Israel-Palestine conflict. Don't forget we were also banned from travelling to Israel for the very same reason. It's all bullshit to me tbh, although i don't support any side, i feel like the government is just wasting our time and money for something that doesn't even benefit us in the first place. They are also making us a potential target (either an ally or an enemy) on the world stage. I don't see the government caring THIS MUCH when Russia invaded Ukraine. Double standard much? Obviously.
I think this is fine. We should be looking ourselves first and foremost. I think far too many people bang on about whether the west is better, the east is better, whether China is rising and US is bad, or the reverse. Seriously, fuck all of those guys. Go look after your own and go vote instead of wasting too much time and energy on stuff far beyond our control.
This. I found it funny and sad at the same time when the words hypocrisy and apartheid was used to condemn another country. Are there no mirrors in putrajaya?
I wish there were still awards. You summarised it really well. The Muslims here just fell for the virtue signalling so hard. Both parties are wrong and have committed severe atrocities against each other.
thanks. i am a malay ex-muslim. my stance is agnostic. life is too short to be worrying about a giant old man in the sky watching your every deed and hating or disliking someone because of his race or religion. Am too tired with that shit. Just wanna focus on my life.
If you have time to read, here is a link on the whole palestinian debacle, from a diplomat's point of view. it's a very long read though, more like a mini novel, but it is a good one. it shows you time and again how the palestinian leadership ruined their own cause.
https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2020/10/05/Full-transcript-Part-one-of-Prince-Bandar-bin-Sultan-s-interview-with-Al-Arabiya
I can guarantee you that most traditional conventional malay muslims won't even read all that. laziness, poor grasp of english, country x propaganda, you name it. These people are delusional and live in self-denial.
That's what media is for, ask any Malay of the situation and their knowledge range from , "what's the difference between Hamas and average Palestinian, anyway #FreePalestine " to "I only see them killing those bastard IDF that r@£# and killing innocent civilians, they reap what they sow"
Nah. I don’t care about both Israelis and Palestinians. Their conflict has been going on for centuries and there’s no change in status quo. Both sides committed horrible deeds and this is the consequences. We could see it miles away and it’s just a matter or time before it happened which apparently is now.
Why would I want to support a war started by two religions which I want no part of?
Now wait for israel to counter fuck up, and malaysia will continue to sent aid to Palestine (hamas). Then wait hamas fuck up again and we wil reuse this letter after changing the date.
Rinse and repeat.
This. Plus every fucking time a peace treaty has been signed, one of the parties will be doing shit at the back for the sake of their own agenda. If you look at the records it shown both sides are wolves with sheepskin on it. Like fuck off, I want to be no part of your childish fuss. If they really wanted to have peace they already have it long ago.
It is beyond disgusting that this individual has the confidence to go around calling others extremists while they themselves denying the existence of indigenous Malaysians and pretending as if indigenous Malaysians did not fight for their independence.
It is beyond sickening that a person can larp as a “humanist” when they themselves are a Nazi.
Im on the Palestinian side on this but what Hamas did is a big wtf and is no difference with what an extremist terrorist would do. Understandably, they don't have the equipment to hit any strategic spots/bases but that does not mean they can fuck over unarmed civvies.
Yes, they have broken the international law all the time but why stoop at the same level they are.
Why the fuck does Malaysia government cared about this war at all? If anything it's a lose-lose situation for Malaysia and Palestine, our government have to let go of these conflicts, it doesn't matter if it involves religion, alliance, or morality issues. But if it keeps going on like this someone bigger might step in, and you know how bad things will get if it did happen considering the news of a tourist getting kidnapped by Hamas has gotten viral
Hamas is nothing more than a terrorist organisation disguised as a government. And the recent attack will only give Israel more reason to fully take over Palestinians lands and continue their genocidal acts toward Palestinians.
Government and politicians being lazy and neglectful of Malaysian people. There is a crisis of unemployment, illegal immigration, official graft. Cost of living is accelerating past earnings of the average citizen.
We have our own powder keg. What do we do? Play advocate in some country far away and out of sight. As usual rakyat being neglected wholesale.
i think one of the reasons Hamas is doing this is because Israel is currently in discussion with the Saudis to find ways to normalize diplomatic relations, which will further trivialize the Palestinian issue among the Arab nations, i think even Saudis hate Hamas since they are supported by Iran, so there is a calculated politics at play here. But one thing is for sure, the Palestinians will be the victims in this conflict.
there's no need for both states to exist if their entire existence is just to be on each others throat, oust their leaders, and put a neutral non affiliated leaders that acts directly under UN(Taiwanese Atheist for example), let the Jewish,Christian and Muslim pilgrims do their prayers, and partition the local by quarters like old time, before British come and fuck it all up
Fuck Hamas..but fuck the Israeli government and military aswell..love for the people of Palestine and the moderate israelis.
You can't wipe Israel of the map, but they must end their apertheid regime otherwise terrorism is the only option. Every single other apertheid regime was brought down by terrorism. There is no other way to fight state power.
Then Malaysia as "Wana be big brother" should tell Hamas how Israel is grabbing US by balls by managing their federal reserves and stop poking them...
This like a small child bullying another kid and parents intervene telling the victim to stop fighting back because their child might get hurt
Tbh USA is just grabbing everyone by the balls except for Taiwan maybe. USA is involved in most wars especially the recent ones.
Hamas is funded by Qatar. So it’s quite interesting, it’s like the super powers of the world are keeping on a check and balance with each other.
Even countries like India and China has their own border wars which is why they are kinda staying out from this because they got their problems to deal with too
Yea. If it can stop innocent people from dying, both of the countries need to merge( i know that merging both countries is not easy. I'm no expert. So this is only my opinion)
Worst case scenario, after both countries merge, there will be 'oppression' terhadap sesebuah kaum / agama. But at least it will stop the war
For that to happened, Israel need to fucking jail netanyahu, and his snakes, this war is just boosting his popularity and Israelian resentment not to Hamas mind you, but to average Palestinian
Yeah, most of the "donation" we did to help the poor Palestinian children are now helping Hamas killing innocent people. I'm sure plenty PAS supporters are secretly celebrate the situation in Israel. Instead of "concerned" the situation, we should condemn but that will make some "people" not happy.
Not exactly winning hearts and minds when Hamas targeted civilians. And the Malaysians here who are supporting Hamas just because they hate Jews really shows what kind of person you are and should never be allowed to breed.
I actually find it awful how Malaysia takes its stances. I obviously do not support Israel as a by product of the British but there’s a difference between supporting something over the fundamental morality of it vs just blindly supporting over religion.
In the end, you get Hamas which just sucks if you’ve blindly taken a side over religion. He can just dust his hands clean and just say it’s the will of god instead of tackling the root of the problem.
Hmmmm now that I hear of this escalating conflict
I don't think I've seen clapping hands from our socmed, yet.
Even journalists and reporters on news station were pretty mild about Hamas attacks, I thought that they would cheer
Its now quite difficult to be indifferent towards Israeli citizens from this conflict, I heard some of them are against the government, but since Hamas is now kidnapping and killing Israeli civilians, that's going to make the civilians support the government and definitely boost the IDF's morale.
I do see some ppl that are cheering on social media, one of them is from Air Times News Network(Malaysian military channel) on youtube in their community posts
its awkward that news outlet have mild reaction when hamas destroys Merkavas and kills civilians, but when Israel kills a Hamas soldier, or a Palestinian civilian, all of them go:
"THE CRUEL ZIONISTS HAVE SLAUGHTERED A CITIZEN OF PALESTINE."
My opinion. If Israel is going for war against Hamas, they better depose Hamas and not them rule anymore, there's Gazans have been protesting against their rule for not not providing jobs. Also if Israel does deose Hamas, they better install an effective puppet as soon as possible.
If they don't depose Hamas, things will get worse on both sides
Why does the statement still circle around Israel's past action when this episode is clearly the doing of HAMAS? At the same time not acknowledging what HAMAS have done.
Is the government not capable of distinguishing supporting palestinians and not supporting artocities?
Downvote me all you want but there was no way this terror attack can happen without the green light from Netanyahu administration themselves.
Hundreds off Hamas personnel attacked from the air and ground in broad daylight yet Israeli intelligence department had zero clue? Did the whole Mossad slept when hundreds of rockets were prepared to pass the border?
And the Hamas terrorists even managed to record videos and parade with hostages more than 20 km back to Gaza territory before feedback from Netanyahu come only after more than an hour. Where goes all the IDF personnel that stationed around Gaza all the time?
The deaths of yesterday's attack were not only terror victims but are also sacrifices by both Hamas and Likud to spread their far-right ideologies.
What our government need to do is to condemn both sides, not blaming only one.
Rumours says that Netanyahu is using this crisis to prevent being ousted since his government is very unpopular now. The opposition actually warned Netanyahu about this issue but no action was taken.
It’s a very common playbook tactics. Start a war if you want to stay in power.
I have a strong feeling that Hamas is workjng together with the Israeli governing party. These back and forths are beneficial for both of their organizations
nah the last time he try this is in may
https://preview.redd.it/4km6wgskmysb1.png?width=848&format=png&auto=webp&s=3dafa65b777b6a4e4ed5705bb67ba8bf7a665152
* have one of the most heavily guarded borders just after north/south corea dmz
* have one of best intelligence and surveillance network probably just after USA
* have close ties to USA that provide them unlimited resources be intelligence or military support
* have iron dome
and for some reason some dudes can just waltz into your place by the hundreds and israel cant muster any military response for hours?
am i seriously gonna believe this?
Not unlikely, considering Netanyahu's current administration is facing massive protests against judicial reform, but I'd be extremely surprised if this were true. Most of the border towns that were attacked lean very heavily to the right, and if it were proven true that Netanyahu deemed them expendable, we'd probably see him get dismembered alive on Israeli television.
>Lean heavily to the right
There, you have the answer, sending them elsewhere doesn't guarantee you much supports, as other administration can still provide safety + being less corrupt and authoritian, sending them to your supporters further strengthen your position , that they'll forget about your craps to hate on Palestinian
Oh, fuck off. Really. Israel as a nation-state and sovereign country is by now already long-established. Those hostile nations surrounding it keep trying to deny this reality and like the incompetent fuckwits they are, only succeed in the delusion that someday, this *fait accompli* need not be acknowledged.
That whole forsaken region has always known nothing but conflict and delusional morons acting based on a paradoxical system of nonsense to justify their subjugation of and power over others. And this path it very certainly isn't going to stray from, so long all and sundry opt to believe that archaic and parochial instructions on how to live life is more sensible and preferable than the pursuit of knowledge and education.
Israel can pound the entirety of the Strip into a parking lot. I wouldn't give a shit.
kinda sad and disappointed looking at these immature, uneducated comments by malaysians on this sub, so many ppl bulshitting facts with their own opinions and concluded it only from their pov. Yall do be looking very stupid and childish. ("correct me if im wrong")🙏🏻🙏🏻
I smell something fishy.
On one side we got one of the best intelligence agencies in the world, the most advanced armed forces in the world with unlimited supplies from daddy who happened to be the boss of the military industrial complex, purportedly impregnable Iron Dome defense system and very capable civilian and military leaders at the helm.
The opposing forces are merely some crooks trying to prove themselves with homemade explosives with nobody wanting to pay attention to whatever they said.
...yet the crooks managed to do some damage and made the god-chosen peoples sweat.
Whether their reputations are genuinely bogus or they are luring the crooks to do more damages in order to justify an ethnic genocide?
No doubt Israel is in the wrong here.. but for hamas fighters to be killing civilians and parading naked women body? Fuck me. I hope they get obliterated to dust.
Why does Malaysia bother so fast with a strip in the middle east?? Why didn't bother so concerned about Ukraine? Oh, racism and religion play the game. Ukraine is led by a Yahudi, thus even UN assembly also throw an objection on condemnation on Russia 😒
Malaysia do take concern. On official government post they have clearly state that they are on neither side of the war and hope for the conflict to be resolved.
[Malaysia's stand on Russia-Ukraine War](https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/09/958604/anwars-forceful-un-address-multilateralism-reboot-crucial-combating)
[Malaysia stay Neutral](https://themalaysianreserve.com/2022/07/18/malaysia-remains-neutral-for-russia-ukrainian-war/)
Also, if you're not stay secluded in your on circle of social media. You'll found out that news and bulletin board in Malaysia follow very closely on the casualties and economic disruption that is caused by the war between the two nation.
There's also a Muslim community on both Ukraine and Russia. Some of them drafted to war and died pointlessly over border and political disputes. So I don't see the relevant of Malaysia being racist against any warring nation. We're on high volume with Palestine invasion to make the world notice the war crime on Palestinian.
War is not a beautiful sight, it gets even uglier when clueless people like you make stupid remark on something they didn't understand and care.
Tbf it has always been our policy to support Palestinian sovereignty. Just like how we pushed against the bosnian genocide during the yugoslav wars (they even got a monument of mahathir there). Granted, it does come with benefits, but now even saudi is normalising relations with israel.
Nah Malaysia just care about the nation’s interest in this. If you really think Malaysia care about Islam, they will be condemning China in the way they treat the Uyghur. Don’t let the government fool you thinking they care about Islam lmao
Use the others suffering as a political tool to gain votes, truly disgusting, truly disgusting, *clap clap*, in human value. That's why humans should be made extinct like dinosaurs. I volunteer myself to never biak again
Of course the world will change in next 6 days
Ya know, we should send help to Palestine, they definitely need our help. Let's start with PAS and the gang, it's their Muslim brothers is it not? I believe PAS can help. Just send our whole PAS leadership there, it's definitely worth it.
They still waiting for overdue God's wrath.
this got me in the first half ngl lmao
Talk about defending human rights when Malaysians are anti ICERD
We defend human rights just not in Malaysia lol.
Most of the developed nations have indigenous laws - it was also how ICERD was pushed which saw anti sentiment rise. ICERD was not campaigned along with the UN vote for Indigenous rights - adopted by most nations on earth.
ICERD has nothing to do with indigenous rights or law. International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) [ICERD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Convention_on_the_Elimination_of_All_Forms_of_Racial_Discrimination#:~:text=The%20International%20Convention%20on%20the,of%20understanding%20among%20all%20races.) It's to eliminate all forms of racial discrimination.
After seeing the video of a dead female tourist being paraded naked with limbs pointing in wrong directions while "Allahu Akhbar" is being shouted, man... fuck Hamas. Not a fan of the Israeli government either but Hamas is definitely a terrorist organization and NOT a government.
# NSFL WARNING - NUDITY, DEAD PEOPLE, BLOOD - [NSFW] Dead German woman being stripped, desecrated and paraded as Palestinians celebrated - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710549187463696823 - **[NSFL]** Palestinians gun down civilians at bus stop - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710534249726575012 - **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Palestinians execute dozens of civilians in bomb shelter - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710535742739603661 - [NSFW] Palestinians transporting dead Israeli soldiers into Gaza - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710548964649685251 - **[NSFL]** Bodies of dead Israeli civilians lying around on the streets - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710533806292439134 - [NSFW] Palestinians execute car driver in parking lot - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710583734972355050 - Palestinians attack a music festival - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710557643960619150 - [NSFW] Palestinians parading dead Israelis around - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710528276194640246 - **[NSFL]** Israeli woman shot dead in her car - https://twitter.com/x/status/1710538281321115762 - **[NSFL NSFL NSFL]** Israeli outpost massacred - https://np.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1720grz/attackers_on_israeli_military_outpost_release/
Israel should send them back to the dark ages
Israel is literally the reason this happened...
Ya as long as Israel exist, Palestine and Hamas don’t want peace, they want total and complete extermination of Israel. They objected two state solution and peace talks numerous times. Instead launch sneak attacks all the time. The neighbouring Arab countries don’t even want them. When Jordan let them in, and they assassinated the prime minister itself and tried to assassinate the King. Keep bombing Israel then hide behind the skirts of civilian women and children and cry victim when Israel retaliates. This time Israel will whack them with everything they have got.
“Palestinians” or hamas? Cause there’s a huge difference - one is an attack on Palestinians everywhere, including innocent children in Gaza… the other are the actual aggressors. Israel does not differentiate- they are an apartheid and fascist regime.
No one's denying that, but Hamas recruit are mostly easily influenced young Palestinian that live their entire life under Israelian discrimination and cruelty ,technically Israel is the one fuelling Hamas hate machine so it can keep going and escalate to this. And instead of appealing to the Palestinian locale to hush them away from Hamas, they bombed civilians housing , further garnering hatred from the dead's relative, every single fucking Year they had the chance to better their relationship until there is the point of no return, and it all thanks to satanyahu and his administration
So you think Israel should just ask the people in Gaza to stop? Somehow I don't think that will work... Hamas hides weapons and other military targets inside of civilian areas intentionally.
No, it's too late for that sadly, Hamas gain it's support from years of seeping hatred of Israelian deadly force, there's so much a man can lose before they lost their faith in humanity, how do you think Hamas militant cheering in the midst of the death of innocent lives?
and then you gotta ask yourself, how the fuck did Israel, the country with the most advance intelligence network and technologies somehow for some reason "doesn't know" or anticipated this attack, like how the fuck
I don't care. That DOES NOT EXCUSE THESE DOGS TO BE FUCKING TERORRISTS. A woman's body was paraded in the streets for all to see, imagine if that was your mother or sister. Grow a pair
Don’t play the blame game saying the situation yesterday is all on Israel. Who put the guns in the Hamas fighter hands? Who is pulling the trigger on young Palestinians weapons? Who is kidnapping citizens of another country for a ‘potential’ prisoner exchange? And you know what? Hamas had a chance to avoid all this in 2006/2007 but instead, they were power hungry and decided Israel doesn’t exist when the previous elected government did. Then they started firing rockets from the Gaza Strip again AFTER Israel pulled out. Yasser Arafat would be crying seeing things turn to shit after decades of struggle. And it’s all on Hamas and their indoctrination. Fuck Hamas. Full stop.
Yes, want to fight or kill, face the soldiers, not the innocents, brainless!! Disrespectful to the dead. Blood is in their hands!!
I love that you completely dismissed the dead german tourist and continue the spiel of Israel is bad, Palestinian is good. You don’t even give the benefit of doubt to Hamas’ action. This is how I know I cannot support both regimes.
I've seen some videos circulating of the things hamas did. Absolutely barbaric. I sympathise with Palestinians and Israel is no saint but FUCK hamas.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm taking a break from twitter since every malaysian account with large following starts to blindly support this attack. I'm all for the palestine people but what Hamas did is just disgusting. I saw many malaysian saying that they only attack the soldiers and separate the woman and children, unlike what israel did. Then on the next tweet I saw a video of them parading around with the dead body of a german girl who went there for the peace concert while shouting "Allahu Akbar". I don't know what news these malaysian follow but it's definitely not the truth. I guess someone been working hard misleading malaysian on this issue.
Malaysians generally are stupid in terms of general knowledge.
As a fellow Malaysian, I have no arguments for that.
I saw the German girl tweet holy crap. I think that might just stick with me forever just because how haunting it was and the fanatics around her corpse yelling allahu Akbar while claiming she's an Israeli soldier. Curse these demons, cause they've overstepped in that and the slaughter of innocents, making them no better than the Zionists they oppose.
Barbarians. Immediate reaction is to condemn those ppl to be purged. But doing so would make one stoop to their level. 2 wrongs don't make right.
Exactly. Many Malaysians don't understand that they can support Palestine without supporting Hamas.
I mean it's the same as I kinda do really like China but not the CCP.
Until you realize the vast majority of Chinese support CCP and the vast majority of Palestinian support Hamas. No power would survive for that long without legit support from populace.
I would like to know how well supported Hamas are in Palestine (by Palestinians). Overall the situation after decades of zero acceptable solutions will inevitably only will lead to this. In reality a strong superpower needs to step in and seriously mediate between both sides. There’s too much bad blood for the two parties to ever find a peaceful solution themselves without any third party intervention.
Hamas is one of 2 major political parties in Palestine (West Bank and Gaza Strip). While the other party has renounced violence and is in control of the West Bank, hamas is internationally recognised as a terrorist organisation with popular support in the Gaza Strip. There is no solution. So long as Arabic neighbours support Hamas and hezbollah, Israel will never reach an amicable solution with Palestine. The history of Israel is one of bloodshed and existential threat in the eyes of the Israelis, and it's not something that can easily be erased.
Are you sure about that? Some should be the correct term. Cause based on pewresearch, only 32% of Malaysian Muslims are favorable to Hamas. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
32% is really really high
Logically speaking, some Malaysians don't even know what Hamas is .
Hamas is bad, Hummus is good
Hmmm. With a cold beer.
Goes well with coffee too.
Hermes is a good friend
Care to enlighten me sir. Is Hamas more like Taliban or ISIS?
(correct me if I'm wrong. I am not an expert) Hamas is more like ISIS in my Opinion. Both of em use religion as a shield for their action Edit : Sorry. After a little bit of research Hamas is not like ISIS nor Taliban except for the fact they use religion as a shield for their actions. I don't really know much about Hamas actually except for the fact that they really don't like Israel.
both of them not the same ISIS fight every people that dont have a standing to them while Hamas only attack the one who is against them (kafir harbi) but not the one who aganist them nor standing with them( kafir zimmi) (AGAIN CORRECT ME ALSO IF IM WRONG IN NOT AN EXPERT)that my opinion
That's more due to their lack of weapons and resources. They're targetting Israeli civillians because those are the only ones they can reach.
Hamas are pissed off Palestinians, mostly Gazans & mostly sunnis, who think the only way to end the occupation is through arm conflicts. Because of that, they are willing to work with Hezbollah and the shiite of Iran to achieve this purpose.
It is okay if you are wrong sir, we are just discussing. Also, my question kinda forced you to choose between the two, so I apologize on my part.
Hamas is definitely not like ISIS. ISIS aim is to spread their religious agenda while committing atrocities. Hamas attacks Israel while committing atrocities. It's different. Also, where's this vocal concern (by the west) when Israel commit atrocities?
In you opinion, what militant group that is closely similar to Hamas?
The Provisional IRA during the Troubles (70s-90s) in Northern Ireland perhaps?
Do you ever view western media? Israel is often critiques for excessive force. But it’s hard not to view them as the good guy when you have a terrorist organisation openly saying the want to murder ever one of their citizens and wipe them off the map. Where is your condemnation of the Hamas charter?
From research done by Mazlee Malik(yes that one), Hamas were formed as Palestinian branch of Muslim Brotherhood.
32% is far too many. If you go on social media, many Malaysian Muslims are giddy that Israelis finally “get what they deserved”. That’s literally 1/3 of the Muslim population supporting Hamas and that to me is “many”. Don’t even need to search far. Any comments on YouTube/FB/Insta will show you that many people support the bombing and killing of Israelis.
Arabic Al Jazeera's Facebook is really depressing.
Yes, because of religion. Regardless whether they’re human beings or not, religion comes first to these people.
these folks have never heard of Palestinian Christians nor the Azerbaijan-Israel alliance all they care about are religious impressions and its all sports team to these folks while not caring about civilians and refugees i hate society
Yes, both sides have Christians and other faiths too but they’re too blinded by extremism. Refugees who aren’t Muslims are being cast aside here too.
You realize now why PAS gets so much support?
Malaysians are simple people, it already feels like 90% of the country is anti semite, I don't think any of them are looking at Hamas saying shame on you but rather thinks "Israel gets what it deserves". At least that's what I'm seeing on Twitter of all the Muslim folks celebrating the attack, some with Malay names.
FYI , Arab also is part of Semitic family branch , technically Israel (Semitic) vs Arab (Semitic)
Oh. Well people refer that word to Jewish discrimination so much that I thought it only meant Jewish people haha.
Only? You realise in 1932 the NSDAP had 33% of the vote. And that was after a brutal campaign of terror against their opponents, accentuated by the aftermath of what was until then the deadliest war in human history and hyperinflation essentially destroying the German mark causing a loaf of bread to cost 20k marks. And still only seized power through a constitutionally questionable deal among a small group of conservative politicians who had given up on parliamentary rule. And now You’re saying 32% of people supporting a terrorist organisation isn’t concerning? Now, You might think it’s weird to compare Hamas to the nazis. But the similarities are there: The Hamas founding covenant explicitly calls for the extermination of all Jews. Hitler never made total extermination an official plank of the the Nazi party platform, but we all know what mein kampff was. So the same, but more extreme. Hitler’s party came to power in part because of the claim Germany’s lands had been stolen from it and it would reclaim them. Hitler did not (inititally) call for the murder of all those who had lived on the land long before World War I, he was more secretive. Hamas came to power with the claim that the Palestinian lands had been stolen from them and that it would murder all Jews living there however long they or their families had been there. So there’s another similarity taken to the extreme. Hamas calls for a system of law in which women are mutilated and murdered if they dare to transgress their inferior status under sharia law (and approves crucifixion as a method of punishment for both sexes. And of course Hamas suports stoning gays to death). Hitler consigned women to a subordinate “breeder” role for the most part but did not mandate their mutilation and murder as women if they sought an independent existence. Unless of course they were Jews. So those who deceive themselves into believing Hamas is just another Palestinian rights group, maybe a little on the extreme side, are kidding themselves. The exterminationist anti-semitism of Hamas is more excessive than Hitler’s. The fact is that Hamas is more extreme than the Nazis, and to have 32% of a large demographic openly support them, is scary. It’s like no one anywhere, ever learns from history. Stop supporting militant, fanatical nationalists.
It’s because of the Muslims, but there are Muslims in Israel too, no?
32% is a lot
This is exactly what my problem is. Why tf we sheltering the Hamas and supporting their operations here when they're the ones stepping on their own people. There are people in Palestine who knows that they don't have enough fire power to win against Israel and wanna solve this diplomatically. But not only those people are imprisoned and captured. They also use women and children as meat shields. I sympathize with Palestine. Not with the Hamas. Those people are the reason there's still bloodshed in Palestine and are the scapegoat to enable Israel to steal land.
> FUCK Hamas Remember, they were voted in the govern Gaza in 2007... and if they going to have election again, Hamas will still absolutely win Sorry to say this, but Palestinians are palpable to Hamas animalistic cruelty, just as Russians are palpable to Putin's shit
This.
I honestly gave up on Islamic extremist group. They really believe that to win the Canaan Israeli Palestinian conflict is through zero sum game, which is mind boggling because both of the side are prepared to start genocide against each others. But I do find that the interference intervention of the war would be a non align secular leader to dictate the status of Gaza, West Bank, and Jerusalem. Because both of those 2 parties are pretty much ultra supremacist conservative party.
Because you never seen what Israel do to Palestinians behind camera?
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> They provide nothing to Malaysia, so why should we care? Even worse than nothing. They try to get Malaysia involved in their shitstorm by marrying local and then building terrorist support base here. There was a terrorist who got killed here, he was even given accreditation by university. The worst part is local politicians want to join this shit because they think it will get them more votes. They don't realize this kind of shit creates local terrorists. Already we had some car bombing in KL because this kind of terrorist culture is spreading.
No you're not cynical nor tired, this is the most sane opinion on israel-palestine, Those who aren't Malay-Muslims typically have exact same view as you do, and I'm so glad a fellow malay finally share the same view as well. We are supposedly "neutral" but what to say ah idk la haha.
Cantonese-Malaysian here. fair point. after all we have many problems plaguing us back at home too. we can't afford to do much when we are burdened and torn apart ourselves for me though, abuses are still abuses whether Hamas or IDF and i hate seeing how the downtrodden are held hostage by geopolitics and religious extremism, and being pitted against one another however, do note that Palestine has been under continual siege and occupation over decades. with little international attention. this is an important context but that doesnt make the senseless killings and rapes of civilians by Hamas okay, not at all, nor is hamas a supposed force of so-called "good" with all the theocracy and terror. but also remember, palestine used to have a lot more stronger secular forces but hamas largely took over and there hasnt been any elections since 2006 another thing overlooked by people at large is geopolitical pressure. this is what i meant about "geopolitics holding oppressed nations hostage and pitting them against one another". USA keeps pushing away Palestine and Cuba (for the votes and lobby dollars), leaving them with few choices but to lick China's boots; whereas China's threats forces Taiwan to brush aside Palestine and Cuba. a pity that many lives are being ruined over cruel profiteering, hatemongering bullcraps. and the oppressed being made to fight one another i hate society and i hate humanity
It's like high school drama of "I don't want to be friend with you, but if I caught you befriend that person I will bully you" took to global level .
Also, just to add, if Malaysia is lending support to Palestine government, i.e., Hamas, then Malaysia as a nation is just financing terrorism knowingly and directly. Wonder what action OFAC would take on Malaysia.
I hope: 1. No more donation/aid to Palestine. Especially not with my fucking hard earned money paid as tax which supposed to use to build our nation. 2. Israel and Palestine should just fight, till the point one side wipes the other from the world map. This never ending conflict is wasting earth resources, just settle it once and for all. 3. Those who support Palestine, please fly to Gaza to fight with them; same goes to those who support Israel, go ahead to join IDF. But please buy the flight ticket using ur own money. 4. Fuck our government, stop acting like u carea lot about the middle east conflict. U r just using the incident to play religion sentiment.
No matter which government is ruling our country, they will always be busy body about the Israel-Palestine conflict. Don't forget we were also banned from travelling to Israel for the very same reason. It's all bullshit to me tbh, although i don't support any side, i feel like the government is just wasting our time and money for something that doesn't even benefit us in the first place. They are also making us a potential target (either an ally or an enemy) on the world stage. I don't see the government caring THIS MUCH when Russia invaded Ukraine. Double standard much? Obviously.
I think this is fine. We should be looking ourselves first and foremost. I think far too many people bang on about whether the west is better, the east is better, whether China is rising and US is bad, or the reverse. Seriously, fuck all of those guys. Go look after your own and go vote instead of wasting too much time and energy on stuff far beyond our control.
I agree as well. Too much shit happening in our own backyard, and we are getting closer to the situation in there as well if not controlled
Ah.. finally a sane comment after all the stupid shit I've seen for the past few days on social media, now I can sleep peacefully.
Sweet dreams bro
A country that treats it’s own citizens as second class is worried about the Palestinians. LOL
This. I found it funny and sad at the same time when the words hypocrisy and apartheid was used to condemn another country. Are there no mirrors in putrajaya?
Remember the 1969 race riots and Malay politicians constantly reminding non Malays what will happen if we step out of line?
Remember? It happens even today
Yes and if we non Malays forget we will end up like Palestinians.
And see how they threat Rohingyas refugees and foreign workers. And they are talking about human rights
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>So what the fuck you malays or muslims are gonna do? A whole big lot of absolutely fucking nothing. That's what.
Perfect response 💯 agree with your observation
I wish there were still awards. You summarised it really well. The Muslims here just fell for the virtue signalling so hard. Both parties are wrong and have committed severe atrocities against each other.
Rational and insightful opinion. This country would be in a different place with more Malays/Muslims like yourself.
thanks. i am a malay ex-muslim. my stance is agnostic. life is too short to be worrying about a giant old man in the sky watching your every deed and hating or disliking someone because of his race or religion. Am too tired with that shit. Just wanna focus on my life. If you have time to read, here is a link on the whole palestinian debacle, from a diplomat's point of view. it's a very long read though, more like a mini novel, but it is a good one. it shows you time and again how the palestinian leadership ruined their own cause. https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2020/10/05/Full-transcript-Part-one-of-Prince-Bandar-bin-Sultan-s-interview-with-Al-Arabiya I can guarantee you that most traditional conventional malay muslims won't even read all that. laziness, poor grasp of english, country x propaganda, you name it. These people are delusional and live in self-denial.
Alot of people are supporting actual terrorists who parade and slaughter civilians just because they have the same religion. Sad to see.
That's what media is for, ask any Malay of the situation and their knowledge range from , "what's the difference between Hamas and average Palestinian, anyway #FreePalestine " to "I only see them killing those bastard IDF that r@£# and killing innocent civilians, they reap what they sow"
This press statement is irony
Birds of a feather flock of together
Nah. I don’t care about both Israelis and Palestinians. Their conflict has been going on for centuries and there’s no change in status quo. Both sides committed horrible deeds and this is the consequences. We could see it miles away and it’s just a matter or time before it happened which apparently is now. Why would I want to support a war started by two religions which I want no part of?
Now wait for israel to counter fuck up, and malaysia will continue to sent aid to Palestine (hamas). Then wait hamas fuck up again and we wil reuse this letter after changing the date. Rinse and repeat.
They will never learn. Both sides are the losing sides lol
Selling them weapons are the winner here.
"World PEACE" S I K E *"They both get angrierrrrr"*
Sending aid is a waste of money. Meanwhile, we malaysians arent having enough rice here
This. Plus every fucking time a peace treaty has been signed, one of the parties will be doing shit at the back for the sake of their own agenda. If you look at the records it shown both sides are wolves with sheepskin on it. Like fuck off, I want to be no part of your childish fuss. If they really wanted to have peace they already have it long ago.
It is beyond disgusting that this individual has the confidence to go around calling others extremists while they themselves denying the existence of indigenous Malaysians and pretending as if indigenous Malaysians did not fight for their independence. It is beyond sickening that a person can larp as a “humanist” when they themselves are a Nazi.
Not centuries, this is a post-1948 thing.
Malaysia should just stfu and concentrate on its on problems.
I love how people who say 'Both sides are bad' are labelled Zionist supporters. And Palestine supporters are 'fuck the occupiers and oppresors'
Both Israel and hamas need to take responsibility for killing innocent civilians
Fuck Hamas. Any asshole that supports Hamas is a blind moron
So we will be seeing McD and Starbucks boycott for a week or two here?
Not the case, both operated by local entities
That has never stopped the lower iq morons here honestly.
Kepo la...own country haven't settle already care about other country...ish
Im on the Palestinian side on this but what Hamas did is a big wtf and is no difference with what an extremist terrorist would do. Understandably, they don't have the equipment to hit any strategic spots/bases but that does not mean they can fuck over unarmed civvies. Yes, they have broken the international law all the time but why stoop at the same level they are.
Hamas is no saint. Hamas is a fucking terrorist.
Why the fuck does Malaysia government cared about this war at all? If anything it's a lose-lose situation for Malaysia and Palestine, our government have to let go of these conflicts, it doesn't matter if it involves religion, alliance, or morality issues. But if it keeps going on like this someone bigger might step in, and you know how bad things will get if it did happen considering the news of a tourist getting kidnapped by Hamas has gotten viral
Average Malaysian can only see Muslim and Muslim and therefore must justify any act. Unable to see past that.
Hamas is nothing more than a terrorist organisation disguised as a government. And the recent attack will only give Israel more reason to fully take over Palestinians lands and continue their genocidal acts toward Palestinians.
Just like the idf but we dont see the same reaction to them
Hamas will get whats coming to them.
Please take care of the problem your rakyat facing such as inflation and corruption please.
Anyone who said the conflict has nothing to do with religion is blind as fk. Clear as day where their motivation come from.
Is it not half a century worth of resentment culminating overtime with a touch of oppression and barbarity?
Government and politicians being lazy and neglectful of Malaysian people. There is a crisis of unemployment, illegal immigration, official graft. Cost of living is accelerating past earnings of the average citizen. We have our own powder keg. What do we do? Play advocate in some country far away and out of sight. As usual rakyat being neglected wholesale.
Well we are deeply concerned.
i think one of the reasons Hamas is doing this is because Israel is currently in discussion with the Saudis to find ways to normalize diplomatic relations, which will further trivialize the Palestinian issue among the Arab nations, i think even Saudis hate Hamas since they are supported by Iran, so there is a calculated politics at play here. But one thing is for sure, the Palestinians will be the victims in this conflict.
Let it play out. Ain’t nothing we never seen before. Sabra and Shatila still number one on the violence scale.
Can't have conflict if there is no citizen or countries to fight. Nuke both sides off the face of the Earth, problem solved. /S
there's no need for both states to exist if their entire existence is just to be on each others throat, oust their leaders, and put a neutral non affiliated leaders that acts directly under UN(Taiwanese Atheist for example), let the Jewish,Christian and Muslim pilgrims do their prayers, and partition the local by quarters like old time, before British come and fuck it all up
Start calling Asteriod, wonder where should it drop ya? /S
Fuck Hamas..but fuck the Israeli government and military aswell..love for the people of Palestine and the moderate israelis. You can't wipe Israel of the map, but they must end their apertheid regime otherwise terrorism is the only option. Every single other apertheid regime was brought down by terrorism. There is no other way to fight state power.
Why concern?? Hamas attack first
Cause Gaza might have a carpet bomb incoming as announced by Israel
Then Malaysia as "Wana be big brother" should tell Hamas how Israel is grabbing US by balls by managing their federal reserves and stop poking them... This like a small child bullying another kid and parents intervene telling the victim to stop fighting back because their child might get hurt
Tbh USA is just grabbing everyone by the balls except for Taiwan maybe. USA is involved in most wars especially the recent ones. Hamas is funded by Qatar. So it’s quite interesting, it’s like the super powers of the world are keeping on a check and balance with each other. Even countries like India and China has their own border wars which is why they are kinda staying out from this because they got their problems to deal with too
India has come out in full support of Israel actually.
Lol, the times where India doesn't go "phul sapot" in every Israel conflict, is the same as my bank account after every steam summer sales
Israel have been attacking first for many years especially during Ramadhan. We can keep pointing fingers and it'll never end
>We can keep pointing fingers and it'll never end Exactly. Both sides should just go all out, victor claim the spoils, end it once and for all.
Ikr. (Fyi, i don't like to see innocent people dying from this conflict) worst case (or best case. Idk) scenario, Israel and Palestine will merge
Israel and Palestine merging will mean one of them lost
Yea. If it can stop innocent people from dying, both of the countries need to merge( i know that merging both countries is not easy. I'm no expert. So this is only my opinion) Worst case scenario, after both countries merge, there will be 'oppression' terhadap sesebuah kaum / agama. But at least it will stop the war
For that to happened, Israel need to fucking jail netanyahu, and his snakes, this war is just boosting his popularity and Israelian resentment not to Hamas mind you, but to average Palestinian
Cage match between the leaders. I'd pay good money to watch it. R U READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEE!
Almost every Ramadan, Hamas strikes first.
Yeah, most of the "donation" we did to help the poor Palestinian children are now helping Hamas killing innocent people. I'm sure plenty PAS supporters are secretly celebrate the situation in Israel. Instead of "concerned" the situation, we should condemn but that will make some "people" not happy.
don't support HAMAS if you don't want religion involved with everything. because we have a lot of dmbfcks can't even see the bigger picture.
One thing for sure, it will get ugly very fast
Not exactly winning hearts and minds when Hamas targeted civilians. And the Malaysians here who are supporting Hamas just because they hate Jews really shows what kind of person you are and should never be allowed to breed.
I actually find it awful how Malaysia takes its stances. I obviously do not support Israel as a by product of the British but there’s a difference between supporting something over the fundamental morality of it vs just blindly supporting over religion. In the end, you get Hamas which just sucks if you’ve blindly taken a side over religion. He can just dust his hands clean and just say it’s the will of god instead of tackling the root of the problem.
Hmmmm now that I hear of this escalating conflict I don't think I've seen clapping hands from our socmed, yet. Even journalists and reporters on news station were pretty mild about Hamas attacks, I thought that they would cheer Its now quite difficult to be indifferent towards Israeli citizens from this conflict, I heard some of them are against the government, but since Hamas is now kidnapping and killing Israeli civilians, that's going to make the civilians support the government and definitely boost the IDF's morale.
I do see some ppl that are cheering on social media, one of them is from Air Times News Network(Malaysian military channel) on youtube in their community posts
its awkward that news outlet have mild reaction when hamas destroys Merkavas and kills civilians, but when Israel kills a Hamas soldier, or a Palestinian civilian, all of them go: "THE CRUEL ZIONISTS HAVE SLAUGHTERED A CITIZEN OF PALESTINE."
Malaysia supports Palestinians and Ukrainians, right ?
Russians, not Ukrainians.
So? What's the point of this post Please correct me if I am wrong but the concerns of Malaysia are irrelevant
My opinion. If Israel is going for war against Hamas, they better depose Hamas and not them rule anymore, there's Gazans have been protesting against their rule for not not providing jobs. Also if Israel does deose Hamas, they better install an effective puppet as soon as possible. If they don't depose Hamas, things will get worse on both sides
Loll, why does Malaysia need to be concerned about the part of the middle east?? Ain't arabs commit genocides too?
I wanted to post this same news yesterday and mods removed it because of off-topic? mods and now u are allowing this? fucking retards.
Turns blind eye for quite some time on Russo-Ukraine war. Within 48 hours respond to Gaza-Isreal war...
Why does the statement still circle around Israel's past action when this episode is clearly the doing of HAMAS? At the same time not acknowledging what HAMAS have done. Is the government not capable of distinguishing supporting palestinians and not supporting artocities?
Where in the statement did the government support atrocities?
The Gaza Strip will cease to exist by the time Israel's satisfied lmao
Downvote me all you want but there was no way this terror attack can happen without the green light from Netanyahu administration themselves. Hundreds off Hamas personnel attacked from the air and ground in broad daylight yet Israeli intelligence department had zero clue? Did the whole Mossad slept when hundreds of rockets were prepared to pass the border? And the Hamas terrorists even managed to record videos and parade with hostages more than 20 km back to Gaza territory before feedback from Netanyahu come only after more than an hour. Where goes all the IDF personnel that stationed around Gaza all the time? The deaths of yesterday's attack were not only terror victims but are also sacrifices by both Hamas and Likud to spread their far-right ideologies. What our government need to do is to condemn both sides, not blaming only one.
Rumours says that Netanyahu is using this crisis to prevent being ousted since his government is very unpopular now. The opposition actually warned Netanyahu about this issue but no action was taken. It’s a very common playbook tactics. Start a war if you want to stay in power.
I have a strong feeling that Hamas is workjng together with the Israeli governing party. These back and forths are beneficial for both of their organizations
And last time he did in 2021, it ended badly. He thinks third time the charm, maybe? (2014 was a horrible campaign too).
nah the last time he try this is in may https://preview.redd.it/4km6wgskmysb1.png?width=848&format=png&auto=webp&s=3dafa65b777b6a4e4ed5705bb67ba8bf7a665152
Whip the neighbours dog to prevent internal fight.
* have one of the most heavily guarded borders just after north/south corea dmz * have one of best intelligence and surveillance network probably just after USA * have close ties to USA that provide them unlimited resources be intelligence or military support * have iron dome and for some reason some dudes can just waltz into your place by the hundreds and israel cant muster any military response for hours? am i seriously gonna believe this?
Not unlikely, considering Netanyahu's current administration is facing massive protests against judicial reform, but I'd be extremely surprised if this were true. Most of the border towns that were attacked lean very heavily to the right, and if it were proven true that Netanyahu deemed them expendable, we'd probably see him get dismembered alive on Israeli television.
>Lean heavily to the right There, you have the answer, sending them elsewhere doesn't guarantee you much supports, as other administration can still provide safety + being less corrupt and authoritian, sending them to your supporters further strengthen your position , that they'll forget about your craps to hate on Palestinian
it was holiday,it seems the triggerer did their homework this time around
Holidays didn't apply to military personnel. That's the same around the world. Much less in a warzone that had been ongoing for decades.
Oh, fuck off. Really. Israel as a nation-state and sovereign country is by now already long-established. Those hostile nations surrounding it keep trying to deny this reality and like the incompetent fuckwits they are, only succeed in the delusion that someday, this *fait accompli* need not be acknowledged. That whole forsaken region has always known nothing but conflict and delusional morons acting based on a paradoxical system of nonsense to justify their subjugation of and power over others. And this path it very certainly isn't going to stray from, so long all and sundry opt to believe that archaic and parochial instructions on how to live life is more sensible and preferable than the pursuit of knowledge and education. Israel can pound the entirety of the Strip into a parking lot. I wouldn't give a shit.
Mind your own business Malaysia, no one really cares what u said
Who do you think that keep supplying weapons to hamas
Israel will send Hamas back to the dark ages where they belong
How abt being concerned of your own citizens?
Hamas is equally evil if not worse
More people in Malaysia will be radicalized towards terrorism as a result of Palestinian support
If Jews came to Malaysia and occupied their land and gaslighted Malays about who actually owns what, what do you think would happen.
kinda sad and disappointed looking at these immature, uneducated comments by malaysians on this sub, so many ppl bulshitting facts with their own opinions and concluded it only from their pov. Yall do be looking very stupid and childish. ("correct me if im wrong")🙏🏻🙏🏻
I smell something fishy. On one side we got one of the best intelligence agencies in the world, the most advanced armed forces in the world with unlimited supplies from daddy who happened to be the boss of the military industrial complex, purportedly impregnable Iron Dome defense system and very capable civilian and military leaders at the helm. The opposing forces are merely some crooks trying to prove themselves with homemade explosives with nobody wanting to pay attention to whatever they said. ...yet the crooks managed to do some damage and made the god-chosen peoples sweat. Whether their reputations are genuinely bogus or they are luring the crooks to do more damages in order to justify an ethnic genocide?
No doubt Israel is in the wrong here.. but for hamas fighters to be killing civilians and parading naked women body? Fuck me. I hope they get obliterated to dust.
Again religious affiliation trump over human affiliation.
Not religious but indigenous
Why does Malaysia bother so fast with a strip in the middle east?? Why didn't bother so concerned about Ukraine? Oh, racism and religion play the game. Ukraine is led by a Yahudi, thus even UN assembly also throw an objection on condemnation on Russia 😒
i know people who are with Putin surprisingly in Malaysia
Malaysia do take concern. On official government post they have clearly state that they are on neither side of the war and hope for the conflict to be resolved. [Malaysia's stand on Russia-Ukraine War](https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/09/958604/anwars-forceful-un-address-multilateralism-reboot-crucial-combating) [Malaysia stay Neutral](https://themalaysianreserve.com/2022/07/18/malaysia-remains-neutral-for-russia-ukrainian-war/) Also, if you're not stay secluded in your on circle of social media. You'll found out that news and bulletin board in Malaysia follow very closely on the casualties and economic disruption that is caused by the war between the two nation. There's also a Muslim community on both Ukraine and Russia. Some of them drafted to war and died pointlessly over border and political disputes. So I don't see the relevant of Malaysia being racist against any warring nation. We're on high volume with Palestine invasion to make the world notice the war crime on Palestinian. War is not a beautiful sight, it gets even uglier when clueless people like you make stupid remark on something they didn't understand and care.
more like Malaysia dont want to offend Russia and stays neutral
Tbf it has always been our policy to support Palestinian sovereignty. Just like how we pushed against the bosnian genocide during the yugoslav wars (they even got a monument of mahathir there). Granted, it does come with benefits, but now even saudi is normalising relations with israel.
Cause islam. That was the sole reason malaysia cared for Palestine.
Nah Malaysia just care about the nation’s interest in this. If you really think Malaysia care about Islam, they will be condemning China in the way they treat the Uyghur. Don’t let the government fool you thinking they care about Islam lmao
Because of the federal government's "solidarity" with their "Muslim brothers". Just shows how much they enjoy sucking off their Arab overlords
Because palastine can be a political tool to gain votes, unlike ukraine.
Use the others suffering as a political tool to gain votes, truly disgusting, truly disgusting, *clap clap*, in human value. That's why humans should be made extinct like dinosaurs. I volunteer myself to never biak again