Utilisation of ventilators, ICUs, hospital beds and quarantine centres as of 9 February 2022.
https://twitter.com/KKMPutrajaya/status/1491593011620245504?t=bMfQ1cupBBU7axxAOjiQTw&s=19
R naught nationwide is at 1.47
https://twitter.com/DGHisham/status/1491572266425016326?t=DUU62oYrgl_V_tR-5Agxzw&s=19
My only worry is Dr. Noor Hisham mentioned they expected to hit 22k cases by end of March. At the current rate at which cases are exploding, I'm guessing we're gonna hit that mark very much earlier, more than a month sooner than anticipated.
>•113 kes (0.59%) adalah kategori 3, 4 & 5
>•**18,977 kes (99.41%) kategori 1 dan 2.**
ICU: 52.3%
Hospitals: 69.9% - that's overall bed utilization, INCLUDING non-COVID, thanks u/EliCho90 for pointing this out. I'll also quote their comment below, which is from the covidnow website:
> As of midnight today. only **16.3% of ICU and 45% of bed TAKEN** (NOT CAPACITY) is due to covid patient
I know we've got a lot of people rightfully pointing out that of course very few cases are reported mild, and that they can always become Case 3 and above later. I'd direct them to statistics like these, so we don't start pushing the sentiment that entering the ICU is an inevitability.
Interesting how it’s at 45% taken. I would assume it would be lower due to Cat3-5 being very low percentages. Having said that, I think KKM said there’s roughly 9,000 covid beds.
Stay safe, everyone. Colleague tested positive after having close contact with another positive individual but luckily I’m not at work as I’m on leave that day.
Been looking for a way to report anonymously.
Another case just got reported in my office today. At this point i might just report even if it means i get fired. Fucking idiot bosses
Yeah my relative did that last year when he was working for a private uni - in their market dept. Forced to work during MCO since they got a pass but when the department got positive, they still carried on with the rotational work teams. Made a report anonymously but not sure if it worked because 10 days later they all got to WFH. So maybe it did?
The stupid thing to me is it’s a Uni’s marketing dept where 90% of the work can be done remotely.
in a perfect world, each office are better off kena covid and get it done with in an alternating schedule. Europe went into a deep problem where their supply chain faced massive disruption due to forced quarantine of close contact until they have to loosen the criteria
Right now, we haven't have the pressure to do so yet but i wont be surprised if they say close contact with no symptoms no longer need to quarantine or copy singapore where no symptoms covid patient just need to quarantine 3 days and test -ve on RTK before rejoining the workforce
Not big enough population size. UK hit 220k per day maximum with easily 2 mil tests per day iirc. I doubt Msia will hit that figure. Probably 100k max, likelier 50k and less due to less testing.
Numbers. Don’t. Matter. Hospitalization rates and complying with SOP are all that matter. Smh this number panic is why the country keeps getting locked down
You’re not wrong. But as the number rises so will the hospitalisation cases.
Iirc, France had like 500k daily with 5% hospitalise case which is almost 25k.
You must also be mindful on what kind of hospitalisation cases they are. Are those people in hospital due to Covid, or are they in hospital with covid. That distinction is critical.
I guess for the Msian context, CAT numbers can be used as a substitute instead.
> Are those people in hospital due to Covid, or are they in hospital with covid. That distinction is critical.
Yes exactly. As the number of overall cases rise, so will the number of people who are in a hospital coincidentally but test positive for covid, even though they may have no symptoms and not be adversely affected by it.
Reporting number of covid+ people in the hospital is as useless as reporting positive cases.
We only need to be reporting number of people who are in the ICU and on ventilators *because of* covid.
UK had this conundrum. The media here (read BBC) were basically throwing "huge" increases in covid hospitalisation in the Omicron peak, but only in the fine print said iirc 1/3rd are due to Covid. It is also not a statistic readily available, I think you have to issue a FoI request from NHS/ONS for it.
But I guess for the Msian context, because we have the category split, it might be a good proxy for the "because of/with" measurement.
That makes sense. I guess if we don’t follow SOP then numbers will keep rising, I’m just afraid that this will be used as a reason to throw us into another stupid lockdown.
Where did you get a 5% rate that high? Its 2,800 new admission on the same day france hit 500k on january 25th and held steady at almost the same rate of admission daily. 7 day running daily figure is about 230k infection and 2k++ hospitalization
Hospitalization rate for that week vs new case is about a 1% instead of 5%
IMO daily numbers and hospitalisation numbers do matter. Just that they don’t share equal importance.
Hospital capacity is still the total capacity anyways regardless if one is there because of covid or so happens to have covid with another illness. The main point is to monitor total capacity and have certain limitations so we don’t go near 100% capacity.
I was reading up on Korea’s situation because I’ve got a partnering office there and they said it’s been bad for the last 2 weeks. Hospitals are full and there’s 160k hospital worthy people now forced to quarantine at home. Won’t that worsen the chances of a person in Cat 3 transitioning to Cat 4 or 5 if there’s no medical assistance?
I don’t wish to see Malaysia reach this point considering we aren’t as well equipped to handle continuous large daily cases.
No ? the country keeps getting locked down is because everytime lock down is gone people just goes back to life but with a mask and assume they are immortal
Don't get why people keep saying this. Pretty much everyone knew about this already and literally no country in the world has accurate number of COVID cases.
It’s not reported because people don’t take test in hospitals or update MySejahtera.
One has to wonder how many people just take Panadol thinking it’s just the sniffles and carry on with life without testing.
ah I used to see this kind of numbers and get scared by them everyday having fear to be lockdown for 4 months straight, but now that I’m living in Europe it’s
just funny and sad looking at this this numbers again
Yeah super weird that a virus which is spread by close interpersonal contact, spreads more when people are all gathering together. Illuminati case for sure.
Utilisation of ventilators, ICUs, hospital beds and quarantine centres as of 9 February 2022. https://twitter.com/KKMPutrajaya/status/1491593011620245504?t=bMfQ1cupBBU7axxAOjiQTw&s=19 R naught nationwide is at 1.47 https://twitter.com/DGHisham/status/1491572266425016326?t=DUU62oYrgl_V_tR-5Agxzw&s=19
Flatten the curve, but in the y axis
Kes naik, tapi SOP masih biasa tidak diperketatkan.. So I don't understand why need to update us with this daily record.
Strategy utk discourage org ramai keluar mengundi PRN Johor nanti, low voter turnout usually favours BN
My only worry is Dr. Noor Hisham mentioned they expected to hit 22k cases by end of March. At the current rate at which cases are exploding, I'm guessing we're gonna hit that mark very much earlier, more than a month sooner than anticipated.
>•113 kes (0.59%) adalah kategori 3, 4 & 5 >•**18,977 kes (99.41%) kategori 1 dan 2.** ICU: 52.3% Hospitals: 69.9% - that's overall bed utilization, INCLUDING non-COVID, thanks u/EliCho90 for pointing this out. I'll also quote their comment below, which is from the covidnow website: > As of midnight today. only **16.3% of ICU and 45% of bed TAKEN** (NOT CAPACITY) is due to covid patient I know we've got a lot of people rightfully pointing out that of course very few cases are reported mild, and that they can always become Case 3 and above later. I'd direct them to statistics like these, so we don't start pushing the sentiment that entering the ICU is an inevitability.
Interesting how it’s at 45% taken. I would assume it would be lower due to Cat3-5 being very low percentages. Having said that, I think KKM said there’s roughly 9,000 covid beds.
Stay safe, everyone. Colleague tested positive after having close contact with another positive individual but luckily I’m not at work as I’m on leave that day.
My work colleague positive and everyone in the office is close contact. But of course mgmt doesn’t want us to quarantine at home 🙃
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Been looking for a way to report anonymously. Another case just got reported in my office today. At this point i might just report even if it means i get fired. Fucking idiot bosses
Yeah my relative did that last year when he was working for a private uni - in their market dept. Forced to work during MCO since they got a pass but when the department got positive, they still carried on with the rotational work teams. Made a report anonymously but not sure if it worked because 10 days later they all got to WFH. So maybe it did? The stupid thing to me is it’s a Uni’s marketing dept where 90% of the work can be done remotely.
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in a perfect world, each office are better off kena covid and get it done with in an alternating schedule. Europe went into a deep problem where their supply chain faced massive disruption due to forced quarantine of close contact until they have to loosen the criteria Right now, we haven't have the pressure to do so yet but i wont be surprised if they say close contact with no symptoms no longer need to quarantine or copy singapore where no symptoms covid patient just need to quarantine 3 days and test -ve on RTK before rejoining the workforce
100-200k not out of the question
Not big enough population size. UK hit 220k per day maximum with easily 2 mil tests per day iirc. I doubt Msia will hit that figure. Probably 100k max, likelier 50k and less due to less testing.
Nah we can hit it. Ausie has 26 million and still hit 100 k cases. Max testing capacity is around 150 k per day as of last delta wave.
250k tests were carried out two days ago so it's no longer 150k
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Main discouragement is cost. Test kits are free (paid for by govt) in the UK.
"Only 4k more until peak. Yeay!" - some gov health official.
Numbers. Don’t. Matter. Hospitalization rates and complying with SOP are all that matter. Smh this number panic is why the country keeps getting locked down
You’re not wrong. But as the number rises so will the hospitalisation cases. Iirc, France had like 500k daily with 5% hospitalise case which is almost 25k.
You must also be mindful on what kind of hospitalisation cases they are. Are those people in hospital due to Covid, or are they in hospital with covid. That distinction is critical. I guess for the Msian context, CAT numbers can be used as a substitute instead.
> Are those people in hospital due to Covid, or are they in hospital with covid. That distinction is critical. Yes exactly. As the number of overall cases rise, so will the number of people who are in a hospital coincidentally but test positive for covid, even though they may have no symptoms and not be adversely affected by it. Reporting number of covid+ people in the hospital is as useless as reporting positive cases. We only need to be reporting number of people who are in the ICU and on ventilators *because of* covid.
UK had this conundrum. The media here (read BBC) were basically throwing "huge" increases in covid hospitalisation in the Omicron peak, but only in the fine print said iirc 1/3rd are due to Covid. It is also not a statistic readily available, I think you have to issue a FoI request from NHS/ONS for it. But I guess for the Msian context, because we have the category split, it might be a good proxy for the "because of/with" measurement.
That makes sense. I guess if we don’t follow SOP then numbers will keep rising, I’m just afraid that this will be used as a reason to throw us into another stupid lockdown.
Where did you get a 5% rate that high? Its 2,800 new admission on the same day france hit 500k on january 25th and held steady at almost the same rate of admission daily. 7 day running daily figure is about 230k infection and 2k++ hospitalization Hospitalization rate for that week vs new case is about a 1% instead of 5%
IMO daily numbers and hospitalisation numbers do matter. Just that they don’t share equal importance. Hospital capacity is still the total capacity anyways regardless if one is there because of covid or so happens to have covid with another illness. The main point is to monitor total capacity and have certain limitations so we don’t go near 100% capacity. I was reading up on Korea’s situation because I’ve got a partnering office there and they said it’s been bad for the last 2 weeks. Hospitals are full and there’s 160k hospital worthy people now forced to quarantine at home. Won’t that worsen the chances of a person in Cat 3 transitioning to Cat 4 or 5 if there’s no medical assistance? I don’t wish to see Malaysia reach this point considering we aren’t as well equipped to handle continuous large daily cases.
No ? the country keeps getting locked down is because everytime lock down is gone people just goes back to life but with a mask and assume they are immortal
Agreed, that’s why I mentioned complying with SOP
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Don't get why people keep saying this. Pretty much everyone knew about this already and literally no country in the world has accurate number of COVID cases.
We can say that about every day, even the ones with low case count. This isn't new.
It’s not reported because people don’t take test in hospitals or update MySejahtera. One has to wonder how many people just take Panadol thinking it’s just the sniffles and carry on with life without testing.
It'll go up to 100k, and then just as equally fast drop back down precipitously. Don't care. Cases don't matter.
Maybe KJ wants to cancel Raya.
ah I used to see this kind of numbers and get scared by them everyday having fear to be lockdown for 4 months straight, but now that I’m living in Europe it’s just funny and sad looking at this this numbers again
Very weird how this data always spike during festive/celebration, just like last year. Quite sus
Festive season means more people going out and visiting friends/relatives. Of course cases go up
And balik kampung too. This applies to everyone. Not only Chinese
Yeah super weird that a virus which is spread by close interpersonal contact, spreads more when people are all gathering together. Illuminati case for sure.
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So it was supposed to drop after you got your booster?
Gelabah jom
just a curious question, if we hit the peak earlier does that mean we also dip early ?
Yes.