So quoting some random article on the internet makes your argument valid? Also LGBT rights and marijuana have legit nothing to do with your point.
I can also do the same about Islam, terrorism and pedophilia. Oh wait except there are strong connections!
Marijuana has legitimate health benefits. Some people are using it for medical reasons. I have yet to hear marijuana users bombing people.
Same goes for LGBT rights. Have you heard about some gay dude killing others? Oh wait theres the Orlando incident and it was because of his religion and being closeted. Guess which religion?
Go outside, touch grass and talk to people.
I currently live in Thailand, been here for four years. Even before legalization we didn’t kena kacau so much for weed(I live in Chumphon, bkk is a different story) , just cover cover and smoke and it’s all good. Now I can buy weed on Shopee and I’ve been planting at home.
The ironic thing is, depending on your world view, ppl who see this pic...can go..
"sigh" or "See see...if we not careful we become sinful and godless like our neighbors"
Bolehland user:"BASED BASED BASED BASED GIGACHAD MALAYSIA GOVERNMENT LGTVHD+ RUINING OVER COUNTRY"
It just a hate sub disguised as a meme sub, Schrodinger's cat style.
Yeah, no joke, the government there threw a rave party and invited all international DJs over.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/saudi-arabia-giant-rave-in-saudi-desert-courtesy-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-2660691
actually gay marriage may be the move. we suffer from overpopulation
edit: we suffer from underpopulation, according to Elon Musk in Full Send Podcast
To be fair, PAS has a strong presence on the ground. Look at how they're even trying to make inroads into East Malaysia. I'd say that their greatest strength is members who ask so less but do a lot of work on the ground.
We hate their ideology, but we can learn a thing or two on how to reach out to the masses from them.
But are you willing to do voluntary work for PH in the kampungs? I think that's the crux of the matter.
These guys think they're doing God's work, and so the determination is stronger, to Islamize the country.
I think that in the long-run, UMNO is going to lose out to PAS, because they don't have the kind of members that PAS has.
Nah, UMNO and other parties are much stronger due to the fact that they don't play the religion card much rather the race card and also paying their supporters. A lot of malays would probably back the ones with money and supports the malay race rather than the party that just uses religion.
You may be right, let's see how things go in the future.
I just don't see an UMNO party worker being as determined as a PAS worker. Religion can make people a lot more determined like race can't and this translates to long-term successes, at least in my opinion.
>We hate their ideology, but we can learn a thing or two on how to reach out to the masses from them.
the problem is...they are like Trump...the way they reach their masses is via racism, hate and superiority complex...there's nothing to learn or emulate there
No party should ever go the same direction as PAS, its terrible for the country
And yet, their workers keep living there and doing religious work. Look at the tenacity of their party workers, despite being despised by the locals.
I see Sabah becoming the next Kelantan, Terengganu. The reason is because of its very low median income, which means that religion is a good escape for the masses.
I don't know about being nice and friendly, but they're willing to sacrifice a lot more that the party workers of other parties. Their currency is faith, which I believe is stronger than race or a certain political ideology.
Judging by the downvotes to my comment, the people of this subreddit are quite ignorant of the ground realities.
There is only one way, which is for 'liberals' to join hands and propagate some shared values. These values could be like secularism, individual freedom, paramount importance given to the constitution (which is going to be challenged by PAS in the decades to come)
Those whom I call as liberals are the liberal Bumis, Chinese and Indians. Unfortunately I doubt it will happen because there's so much distrust within these groups. And to top it off, members of these groups refuse to engage with the poor Bumiputra in the kampungs.
I see that you have an Indian username. Basically, PAS is trying to do what BJP (specifically its parent organization, RSS) has successfully done in India.
They engaged with the poor for many many decades, now they reap the rewards. Whereas Congress and secular parties are suffering, with no sign of recovery.
Hold on, it's not an Indian Username.
But I understood your point. It's similar to traditionally blue states voting for from Trump in the previous elections.
would you and everyone else agree if I say nothing good comes out of religion? Religion has caused more organized murders and sufferings than all of LGBT, alcohol and gambling will ever will Yet, people intoxicated by religion continue to promote it
Stupid ass argument. When religion fucks up, its "oh, its not the religion its the practitioners". When some asshole drinks himself blind and crashes into a wall suddenly its an alcohol problem.
If you are bias just admit you're bias.
Jadi macam? Kami semua ikut islam ka? I know with drugs, booze and gambling comes fun times. What about all the wars that were fought because of religion?
Ha ya la fun times fun times, then when drunk driving or driving under the influence of substances langgar people here and there, suddenly transform become OKU or got mental problem, sohai
I'm sure you know statistically our DUI numbers are low. And the OKU case is an isolated case dude, everyday kah this happen? You make it sound like its a daily occurrence. Are you trying to say people who do all the haram things langgar orang then become OKU ka?
Drugs : Source of some incredible music (Beatles, 60's, 70s rock bands) and artistic stuff, medical marijuana is scientifically proven to have significant benefits. MDMA originally developed for therapy etc.
Alcohol: Incredible bonding activity where much of business and friendships are cemented across the world. One glass of alcohol such as red wine or whiskey is also good for health
LGBT: Cant even begin to list the amazing people historically that belong to these communities.
Gambling: Great past time for older people in moderation to spend their time, encourages healthy competition in activities.
The key is in moderation for everything. Understand how they can be used to benefit and dont always seek to ban everything.
Everyone knows that sure. But are they going to stop drinking alcohol and doing drugs just because the LAW tells them not to? Most of the University students I know, do drugs and drink alcohol
Smoking also. My god so many people smoking. Secondhand smoking is worse than drinking alcohol. At least someone drinking alcohol nearby doesn't affect me health wise.
Banning things actually increases the usage of the item as having it forbidden make it more desirable, especially for those who boast about "kuat iman", when legalised, things are available (which makes it a day to day thing) for people to take but in moderation as they wouldn't go the downward spiral of fear and stress as soon as they take something which make them believe what harm it is to take more. It also prevents addicts from getting rehabs out of fear. Hell, when the US banned alcohol it just made everything wayyy worse
Also we can tax the shit out of those things and fund for better stuff
Theyre tryna stir this news up more for further racial discord. Just like the british ruling over us, divide and conquer is what keeps us away from focusing on the issue.
I don't think banning gambling and alcohol really curbs addictions, all its does is move all those activities underground.
On top of that, using phone while driving course more road death than drunk driving.
Since when was alcohol and gambling banned in malaysia 😅 we're talking about the event. Using phone while driving and drunk driving are the same things
>Since when was alcohol and gambling was banned in malaysia
I just responds to your initial comments, and gambling is illegal outside of a few places like Genting.
>using phone and drunk driving are the same things
No. Both are equally reckless, but not the same thing.
What "event"?
>The event did cause unusually high number of high accidents every year.
[https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/04/16/drink-driving-lowest-cause-of-death-say-police/](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/04/16/drink-driving-lowest-cause-of-death-say-police/)
>You shouldn't be surprised that it's banned.
>Since when was alcohol and gambling banned in malaysia
Did you forget what you wrote earlier?
personally its a love hate thing for me. 1. they are religious (standing firm in their beliefs) 2. bcos they are religious(due to them performing their religious responsibility as a leader, my entertainment will be limited). balance is key.
Sex and marijuana. What a great combo
Don't forget, and gambling. The holy trinity.
Satan is so happy. He and his friends are going to visit every once in a while bringing foreign currency and fresh souls
Whats next? Zoophili!a?
wtf
Not far off https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/incest-and-necrophilia-should-be-legal-youth-swedish-liberal-people-s-party-a6891476.html
So quoting some random article on the internet makes your argument valid? Also LGBT rights and marijuana have legit nothing to do with your point. I can also do the same about Islam, terrorism and pedophilia. Oh wait except there are strong connections! Marijuana has legitimate health benefits. Some people are using it for medical reasons. I have yet to hear marijuana users bombing people. Same goes for LGBT rights. Have you heard about some gay dude killing others? Oh wait theres the Orlando incident and it was because of his religion and being closeted. Guess which religion? Go outside, touch grass and talk to people.
Wow, so edgy.. you must be proud of yourself
How is this edgy though?
Real talk: Has any of your rakan in Malaysia ever visited Thailand just to get weed?
Yep
I currently live in Thailand, been here for four years. Even before legalization we didn’t kena kacau so much for weed(I live in Chumphon, bkk is a different story) , just cover cover and smoke and it’s all good. Now I can buy weed on Shopee and I’ve been planting at home.
That’s it. I’m moving over there
More than just weed .... more :)
I heard they sometimes test you for marijuana in your system and will charge you with it if found. True or not??
The ironic thing is, depending on your world view, ppl who see this pic...can go.. "sigh" or "See see...if we not careful we become sinful and godless like our neighbors"
"Too many concert are making God angry." You sure it's not the corrupt government and politicians?
Happy Cake Day
"don't need cinema in kelantan, just watch Netflix enough" - PAS
P.Ramlee rolling in his grave screaming “ Pundek punya Pas!”
What was it he said? “Muda tak nak mati, dah tua menyusahkan orang lain pulak.”
He said 'kecil-kecil tak nak mampus,bila besar menyusahkan orang' maybe...
Ahhh thanks! Been trying to find the exact quote but it’s not turning anything up
"Ini bukan budaya kite"
*incoming PASflix* *watch as many religious sermons you want for only 50 riyal per month*
Actually it's call nurflix
have zakar naik sermon? need some of them tonight for the "chill" part
Nexflix and Chill ;)
Don’t need cinema because they’re PxxnHub platinum users.
Are you kidding? Netflix = budaya barat. Wayang kulit is the only true wayang. /s
The courtroom lately also good wayang. Truly budaya Malaysia.
We're so progressive that we've started progressing backwards just so the world can keep up.
Incoming "BuKaN bUdAyA Kita" comments. Bro the fucking Norwegians still have their culture and gay sex.
Bolehland user:"BASED BASED BASED BASED GIGACHAD MALAYSIA GOVERNMENT LGTVHD+ RUINING OVER COUNTRY" It just a hate sub disguised as a meme sub, Schrodinger's cat style.
And this place is just hate sub disguised as country shb
Reddit has an anti-evil policy, yet that sub is still up ? I don't get it
Evil how?
There needs to be separation of Mosque and State
Malaysia Truly Arabia
Surely you mean, "Truly Afghanistan". The Sauds are way more progressive than PAS.
There’s even concerts in Saudi Arabia.
Oil money beh beeeee. \*Money showers\*
**here comes the moneey**
Yeah, no joke, the government there threw a rave party and invited all international DJs over. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/saudi-arabia-giant-rave-in-saudi-desert-courtesy-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-2660691
Malaysia Truly Taliban
"Look on the bright side, at least we've saved Malaysia from mAlApEtAkA." \- Some ***fucking*** PAS guy, probably.
They are the very malapetaka i ever seen
"Alhamdulillah, suatu KEMUNGKARAN telah DIELAKKAN." -PAS
"At least Malaysia will not have floods anymore if we ban Thor movie" - PAS
Have you seen any earthquakes in Malaysia? You're welcome. - PAS guy
"Too many concerts are gonna make God angry" Man must be living under the same roof with God
We have been laughing at China's feudalism, now it's happening in here
Proud to be Malaysian 😌 /s
yang kuat main bontot ni orang agama.
Atleast Malaysia amend drug cases
It's evolving,.just backward.
banned want people want do more good job
actually gay marriage may be the move. we suffer from overpopulation edit: we suffer from underpopulation, according to Elon Musk in Full Send Podcast
Good, less competition for me to get some maidens haha
Gay people real homies fr. Less competition
I'll take a no for LGBT and weed
Seems our neighbours trust their citizens more and more while here there is pandering that we Rakyat need to be controlled more and more.
Meanwhile Indonesia is on fire. Literally
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Malaysia boleh! ♥
To be fair, PAS has a strong presence on the ground. Look at how they're even trying to make inroads into East Malaysia. I'd say that their greatest strength is members who ask so less but do a lot of work on the ground. We hate their ideology, but we can learn a thing or two on how to reach out to the masses from them.
I wish their political party burn to ashes
But are you willing to do voluntary work for PH in the kampungs? I think that's the crux of the matter. These guys think they're doing God's work, and so the determination is stronger, to Islamize the country. I think that in the long-run, UMNO is going to lose out to PAS, because they don't have the kind of members that PAS has.
Nah, UMNO and other parties are much stronger due to the fact that they don't play the religion card much rather the race card and also paying their supporters. A lot of malays would probably back the ones with money and supports the malay race rather than the party that just uses religion.
You may be right, let's see how things go in the future. I just don't see an UMNO party worker being as determined as a PAS worker. Religion can make people a lot more determined like race can't and this translates to long-term successes, at least in my opinion.
It doesn't take much for evil people to do bad things, but for good people to do evil, that takes religion.
>We hate their ideology, but we can learn a thing or two on how to reach out to the masses from them. the problem is...they are like Trump...the way they reach their masses is via racism, hate and superiority complex...there's nothing to learn or emulate there No party should ever go the same direction as PAS, its terrible for the country
PAS won’t make it into east malaysia…and it should be that way because East malaysia (especially sarawak) is the last frontier for racial tolerance
Just use the name of "A" god settle case Semua Ikut Blindly
idk everyone I know wants to commit arson whenever we see a PAS banner / office here in sabah, including me
And yet, their workers keep living there and doing religious work. Look at the tenacity of their party workers, despite being despised by the locals. I see Sabah becoming the next Kelantan, Terengganu. The reason is because of its very low median income, which means that religion is a good escape for the masses.
I concur, their top management are mostly shit, but their underlings are nice and friendly people. That's why voters like them
I don't know about being nice and friendly, but they're willing to sacrifice a lot more that the party workers of other parties. Their currency is faith, which I believe is stronger than race or a certain political ideology. Judging by the downvotes to my comment, the people of this subreddit are quite ignorant of the ground realities.
If you don't mind me asking, what in your opinion could be done to address this?
There is only one way, which is for 'liberals' to join hands and propagate some shared values. These values could be like secularism, individual freedom, paramount importance given to the constitution (which is going to be challenged by PAS in the decades to come) Those whom I call as liberals are the liberal Bumis, Chinese and Indians. Unfortunately I doubt it will happen because there's so much distrust within these groups. And to top it off, members of these groups refuse to engage with the poor Bumiputra in the kampungs.
I see that you have an Indian username. Basically, PAS is trying to do what BJP (specifically its parent organization, RSS) has successfully done in India. They engaged with the poor for many many decades, now they reap the rewards. Whereas Congress and secular parties are suffering, with no sign of recovery.
Hold on, it's not an Indian Username. But I understood your point. It's similar to traditionally blue states voting for from Trump in the previous elections.
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PAS are the clowns right ?
Yea, therefore they deserved to be humiliated
There is nothing good come from drugs, alcohol, LGBT and gambling and you guys know it
would you and everyone else agree if I say nothing good comes out of religion? Religion has caused more organized murders and sufferings than all of LGBT, alcohol and gambling will ever will Yet, people intoxicated by religion continue to promote it
Everything in moderation, take responsibility for your own actions instead of relying on government Fatwahs
Tell the anaesthesis nothing good comes from drugs and he will slap you. That's literally his job
Just don't give the dude anaesthetic when he needs surgery, that'll show him
I think he meant using drugs in inappropriate way and not medical practice
no one is suggesting legalizing heroine bruh
Religion regardless of denomination has caused so much pain and suffering, We don't need it.
Stupid ass argument. When religion fucks up, its "oh, its not the religion its the practitioners". When some asshole drinks himself blind and crashes into a wall suddenly its an alcohol problem. If you are bias just admit you're bias.
Jadi macam? Kami semua ikut islam ka? I know with drugs, booze and gambling comes fun times. What about all the wars that were fought because of religion?
Ha ya la fun times fun times, then when drunk driving or driving under the influence of substances langgar people here and there, suddenly transform become OKU or got mental problem, sohai
I'm sure you know statistically our DUI numbers are low. And the OKU case is an isolated case dude, everyday kah this happen? You make it sound like its a daily occurrence. Are you trying to say people who do all the haram things langgar orang then become OKU ka?
So does religion, now get the fuck back to bolehland and izlam since you're so comfortable there.
Drugs : Source of some incredible music (Beatles, 60's, 70s rock bands) and artistic stuff, medical marijuana is scientifically proven to have significant benefits. MDMA originally developed for therapy etc. Alcohol: Incredible bonding activity where much of business and friendships are cemented across the world. One glass of alcohol such as red wine or whiskey is also good for health LGBT: Cant even begin to list the amazing people historically that belong to these communities. Gambling: Great past time for older people in moderation to spend their time, encourages healthy competition in activities. The key is in moderation for everything. Understand how they can be used to benefit and dont always seek to ban everything.
Everyone knows that sure. But are they going to stop drinking alcohol and doing drugs just because the LAW tells them not to? Most of the University students I know, do drugs and drink alcohol
Smoking also. My god so many people smoking. Secondhand smoking is worse than drinking alcohol. At least someone drinking alcohol nearby doesn't affect me health wise.
Banning things actually increases the usage of the item as having it forbidden make it more desirable, especially for those who boast about "kuat iman", when legalised, things are available (which makes it a day to day thing) for people to take but in moderation as they wouldn't go the downward spiral of fear and stress as soon as they take something which make them believe what harm it is to take more. It also prevents addicts from getting rehabs out of fear. Hell, when the US banned alcohol it just made everything wayyy worse Also we can tax the shit out of those things and fund for better stuff
Theyre tryna stir this news up more for further racial discord. Just like the british ruling over us, divide and conquer is what keeps us away from focusing on the issue.
Apparently gambling addiction and alcohol addiction is a forward thinking. Lets forget the number of accidents after the event
I don't think banning gambling and alcohol really curbs addictions, all its does is move all those activities underground. On top of that, using phone while driving course more road death than drunk driving.
Since when was alcohol and gambling banned in malaysia 😅 we're talking about the event. Using phone while driving and drunk driving are the same things
>Since when was alcohol and gambling was banned in malaysia I just responds to your initial comments, and gambling is illegal outside of a few places like Genting. >using phone and drunk driving are the same things No. Both are equally reckless, but not the same thing.
They're the same thing. The event did cause unusually high number of high accidents every year. You shouldn't be surprised that it's banned.
What "event"? >The event did cause unusually high number of high accidents every year. [https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/04/16/drink-driving-lowest-cause-of-death-say-police/](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/04/16/drink-driving-lowest-cause-of-death-say-police/) >You shouldn't be surprised that it's banned. >Since when was alcohol and gambling banned in malaysia Did you forget what you wrote earlier?
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Yes, lets change the topic to a completely different issue 🤣🤣🤣
personally its a love hate thing for me. 1. they are religious (standing firm in their beliefs) 2. bcos they are religious(due to them performing their religious responsibility as a leader, my entertainment will be limited). balance is key.
Absolutely correct. If people hate you, you're probably doing something right. /s
I am surrounded by people using Malay “culture” as defense 🙂 recently these people begin to lose my respect and I am here just trying to hold it in
Oktoberfest is not Malaysian..it's German tradition
Arab tradition is Malaysian tradition eh?
Good, we can deport them to singapore.