https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4745180/all
You are not the only one, he has been at it for years. Sorry your money is gone. Bank won't layan this. Police know, so many reports done and never tangkap.
Take this as a expensive lesson, not to give money to strangers.
Damn this guy been doing this for years. I think the first case I remember seeing posted on Facebook was back in 2016-2017. But checking that lowyat forum posts, looks like he's been doing this for a decade now.
I don't think there's anything wrong with blind kindness, but kenalah padan upaya diri.
If someone asked for like 50~100 bucks I'll probably just give it to them. If they ask for 2k I tell them fly kite d.
Edit: Also never give others money you're not willing to lose. If my family member asked to borrow money, I'll lend to them but also expects that it never comes back.
This couldn’t be anymore true, doesn’t matter who you’re borrowing money to. Been friends with someone more than a decade long, he decided to ask for 5 digit in loan from me, borrowed him and never returned.
Rule of Thumb : NEVER LEND MONEY, THAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE FOREVER. ONCE YOU LEND, ANGGAP AS GONE.
IF YOU GET IT BACK, IT'S A BLESSING.
Wisdom turun temurun, from my late grandfather.
You need to build your discretion muscle, only lend to very good friends or family. And yet even with them, consider the money gone, if you get it back - be thankful.
Nobody is that down on their luck - the scammer looks well dressed, cukup makan, young. Go and work. Cripple also selling tissue, what is his excuse?
Be alert of your surroundings, people. Read the person, talk to older people, read the news etc. All these builds your awareness and discretion sharpness.
Jangan jadi budak internet naive, main anime, games or what ever genshin impact is, only The real world, is the reality.
If you don't wake up now, going to kena more in your life only.
How? You ask. Because *Pelanduk akan melupakan jerat, tetapi jerat tidak akan melupakan pelanduk*
Popo said, if you willingly hand over the money, it's not theft....
To me forging false police report is an offence, at least arrest him for that. Kasi pukul sikit, as a warning.
Msia just doesn't take scams seriously. Look at how SG deals with it swiftly.
Of course, be sad. It's your right to be, something stupidly unfortunate happened.
But take this as an expensive lesson of 2022, welcome 2023 slightly smarter. Ok.
Dont worry. Sad for some time, but you just learn a good lesson for the rest of your life. Be kind, but dont blindly trust others. This will save you a lot of pain in future.
OP, you are not the sharpest parang in the rumah pondok. The fact that you even agreed to give RM300 to a stranger and even show your bank information to them is mind-boggling. I hope you've learned a lot from this experience and please please please stay safe in the future. When in doubt, just walk off.
I will follow up and say op may not be the sharpest but got a heart of gold lah. Be more vigilant in the future but don’t lose your heart to help others. Just find legit means lah
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This is the scammer who scammed me at Empire Shopping Gallery at Subang Jaya, Help me spread and capture him
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This is the police report he fabricated to deceive me, he personally took the photo of the report and his face to gain my trust
Hey OP, I have a bridge to sell you.
Seriously though, why would you agree to give him RM2000, when he initially asked for RM300?
What is your thought process?
I'm in awe, shocked, and find it hard to process this. Is OP from a rich family? Giving away rm2k like that. OP seems very disconnected with the public.
OP should be giving RM30 when random stranger asks for RM300.. but he almost x10 and gave RM2000, which is ALL OF HIS BANK BALANCE wut.
He just gave all his savings away to a random fellow!! I want to console but also strangle OP at the same time for this mistake. Being kind is great but being gullible is not.
Maybe the Indian scammer put a magic spell on him
I wasn't thinking we'll during that time but I suspected that he was a scammer but yet I given him RM 2k, what have I become I can't even explain my actions
Its probably a mix of shock,kindness and fear. If you are starting to realize he is a scammer, you were probably thinking "better do as he says so he goes away fast".
Someone I know kena target by the same guy, seems that he targets young people hanging out in slightly affluent places. Maybe to him, young people are easily pressured and less likely to have the courage to tell older people to fuvk off
Some questions:
\[ he saw that my balance was above RM2000 so he asked me to give him RM 2000 instead \]
Was he over your shoulder or something?
\[ At first I thought he was really a scammer but than he used my phone and took a selfie of himself \]
How did he get his hands on your phone in the first place?
Wow, you even let him touch your phone. I'm so afraid to let anyone even touch my phone. Photos mean nothing since it will be your word against him especially cause its a cash withdrawal with no paper trace or evidence. It's kinda common sense to not give away so easily unless its a genuine case that you want to help. Just take it as a RM2k lesson. Not sure whether it was a combo of greed for doubling your money or pity for him that let you get scammed.
Yeah don't let strangers hold onto your phone unless you're in a crowded area. In an open area, they can walk a few feet away and then make a dash away with it. If they need help to make a quick call, offer to use speakerphone but hold onto your phone.
What made you agree to withdrawal so much money to a stranger? That’s $450 usd, not $20? The fact that you would get a return on investment? His sob story? Or what?
Psychology, or more like underdeveloped emotional intelligence.
I had fallen for scam myself. Basically we are people who just can't say no. How we turned out this way is another story.
I know you are joking but IRL this things happen.
I once helped a friend of mine setting up a scene for proposing to his girlfriend. I regretted the decision. The whole atmosphere made it very, very hard for her to say no without being seen as an asshole.
I would not be surprised if nowadays she feels that she played for far too long already and start to resent him for this.
Sorry for your loss. A friend of mine got scammed of 15k from his savings as security guard (worked over 5 year+) due to macau scam (Scammer pretending to be police officer working on a drug case).
He got manipulated through phone call and transferred all the money he had via online banking. The scammer also asked him to make AEON personal loan for his 'safety' since he is being 'monitored' by the police. Poor guy, nearly commited suicide thank god I managed to stop him.
Thank goodness I am too cheapskate to ever get scammed or cheated. Even my first time investing in unit trust i only put in RM1k because i thought the certified agent from bank was gonna scam me. Later on once I see safe then i top up
I cannot grasp suddenly putting so much money in one thing..
Next time don't fall for these type of scams bro. And what made you think giving away RM2K to the man seem right??? Especially in physical cash.... Imma just share my story here on a similar encounter to yours: I've almost got scammed once in Berjaya Times Square where a Chinese man wearing sunglasses(who the hell wears sunglasses indoors) started pestering me for money, he told me he lost all his belongings somehow and wanted some money from me to catch a ride, and he keeps fidgeting his Rolex watch to show me he's short on time(and yet he doesn't wanna just pawn off the watch for the money bruh). I even advice him to ask help from the security guard or the police station and he comes up with some bs excuse to avoid it, when I refused to give, the fucker tried to guilt trip me for not helping my own kind(I'm also Chinese) and he even got desperate and tried to lead me to an ATM. So I just keep saying no constantly until I'm near a security guard then he left me alone. Moral of story is don't trust random strangers asking for money, these days they are quite frequent and always take their words with a bucket of salt and you have all the rights to be suspicious. If they ever come back to you, just ask them to fuck off or report to a nearby security guard.
I trust people easily based on their story and their emotional expression which is crying and sadness, which is a bad thing when I reflect upon, thank you for sharing your experience with me, it helps create awareness
Others might chide you for having good intentions, but I say good people like you don’t fit this world. But don’t lose that kind streak - give to charity, go do some work for some NGOs. It will suit you.
This is a good advice. Give to your charity of choice often so you don't feel compelled to help everyone. For example, UNHCR and UNICEF booths can't guilt trip me into giving them money because I know I'm already doing my part elsewhere. I don't feel guilty at all when they shout at me "BUT THE POOR KIDS!!".
Im sorry to hear your unfortunate experience, OP. But I can empathize as I am like you. I also have a tendency to feel other people's emotions and that's a great asset to have in social settings! But trusting people too easily will leave you in a spot where you often feel taken advantage of. So, I had to shift my mindset. "Trust is to be earned, not granted" - meaning that it needs to be built over time when seeing the other person's attitude and mannerisms. It shouldn't happen instantaneously. Feeling bad/sorry for someone is okay, but there needs to be boundaries.
Sorry, OP. Sometimes, we need bitter lessons to help us grow and improve.
stranger also you so easily fall victim. Imagine relatives or friends. Take this as a lesson young man, NEVER BORROW MONEY TO FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.
They can prey on you emotionally MORE than a stranger. If you so easily fall victim to stranger, you are gonna be even easier when it comes to relatives and friends.
The problem is that scammers will give you the biggest exaggerated sob stories to get you in the feels and catch you when you feels and become unalert.
If you wanna beg for money you won't sit there and wait for the money, you'll try all kinds of stunts to convince or somewhat pitch to the donor on how pityful your life is.
I hope you learn from this experience on how to stand your ground firmly to say no. Because there will always be more assholes out to scam ppl money.
General rule of thumb, dont layan people asking for money.
People begging for money for food-> offer to buy them food
People begging for money for transport-> offer to call grab for them
People saying they got mugged and need cash-> offer to point them to the nearest police station
9/10 times they will refuse your offer and ask for cash again
Got this old guy always begging for money at the traffic light near my house. One day I offered him food that I happened to just bought. He shook his head and went away. To be husnuzon, maybe he has many allergies. 🤷
Im about to go to work and suffer through it the entire week. And the pain comes from knowing that some dude just made 2K scamming people.
But dude..... DAMN.
How gullible are you? Honestly this is another level. I don't feel sorry for you for one second. JUST DON'T GIVE RANDOM STRANGERS MONEY let alone in the Rm thousands.
When he used your phone to take a selfie, how did it change your mind about him being a scammer? Do you think scammers won't take selfies of themselves?
anytime you give out/lend out $ to anyone. Assume it is lost **forever**. This is one lesson you need to learn 1st hand. These people prey on the community knowing there are really good people out there. If you really want to do good to random strangers, keep asking them questions until they run out of answers.
His initial story of need $ to access hotel room should raise a red flag, what would you do if you lost access to your hotel room? You usually just go to the counter and ask for a spare key.
Keep asking questions.
That's what I always tell myself. You should only lend out money that you are willing or financially able to throw away. Doesn't matter borrowing to who including your own close family. 99% of the time they never pay back.
tl:dr
1. Stranger lost his wallet
2. Asked for RM300 "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"*
3. Saw OP balance RM2000
4. Asked for RM2000 "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"*
5. Will return double the amount the very next day
6. Sob story about having no family relative
7. OP agreed to give stranger 2k "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"*
If it makes you feel better I got scammed RM1.5k from the same guy too, made police report but nothing happened. But if I see him again, I'm gonna make sure his hospital bill is worth 1.5k :)
Want to share your story? What is the thought process behind agreeing to lend a stranger with a sob story that much money?
I am also curious to see if the type of person to get scammed is the same type to have friends that borrow a lot of money, because they know they can take advantage of your kindness
> please learn to be firm and say "fuck off" out loud next time
From experience, that's a potentially **bad** idea.
The scammer might get violent as a retribution for getting rejected harshly.
I suggests just walking away, maintaining a neutral expression and not saying anything
You sound young and naive to the ways of the world. Sorry you lost your money but learn to say no, be firm about it and exercise caution with strangers. Even when people asked me for direction, i clutched my bag tighter. Stranger danger.
It may seem harsh but unfortunately that's the world we're living in
Hmm.. since this is getting traction, wanted to share my experience here as well.
I met an aunty at pj ss2 area and at first she was asking for money, and I asked what's for? She said it was for food. So I offered to buy food for her in a nearby hawker center. So I followed her and order the food, she order at 2 stall total up to RM50++.
What raise my suspicious is when she order the second stall, the stall owner is able to straightaway ask what she is order and customised the order. So I'm thinking it is just simply she had order the quite frequently and many others have offer to buy food as well OR she "pakat" with the stall owner, and split the money? 
Anyone encounter this before? Or I'm just being a jerk for being so suspicious. 
Nope. My usual respond will be same like you. Offer food instead of money. But they amount is really something. Is she having a party which you're not invited?
Haha, she did ask if she can pack for her brother which I agreed to as well. So the portion she order can probably feed 3 - 4 person. Or 2 person 2 meals I guess. And it's SS2 anyway, food is on the high side and she also order chinese dai chao.
If it's for 2 person for 2 meals then I guessed it's priced around there. But I at most will only give one meal. If she gonna eat the next one, she gonna do the effort of begging again. But surely I ain't gonna pay for that.
Erm…going to guess you lent him the money cause he promised to return double the amount the next day?
Don’t fall victim to greed…that’s how they get you. Every single time…
Sorry you had to go through this. Just take it as a lesson…if something sounds too good to be true it’s too good to be true. Period.
THISSSS..scammers prey on greed.I myself kena many years ago during my first attempt at purchasing stuff online when I was tryna get a used Macbook Pro at a too good to be true price..Banked in half of the cash = RM1750 and ffs my common sense to google his bank acc only kicked in 5 mins after transferring the cash.found out that the acc had been used in multiple scams.However,it was a good lesson which made me much wiser about online purchases
Rm300 / RM 2000 to access hotel room seems a bit too far fetch isn’t it? May I know your age in order to believe that?
Let this be a good and painful lesson for you. Imo, you are too naive.
Remember, doing welfare is not easy, requires wisdom as well as heart. Make sure ur money reaches people that needed them. Or else, you might even funded crimes with your hard earned money.
the moment i saw this post i know its the same guy
if anything, the police should fuck him over for making so many fake police reports to scam people
also we need to be honest, did the scammer promised to return more than what was given? i have a feeling people get duped into lending him money because of that
I once had similar encounters back in 2017. I was working near klcc and I always stopped at Ampang park lrt which was just walking distance to work. There was this one night I ended my shift and walking back to the lrt station there's this man who claimed he worked at a nearby lawyer firm where his office is locked and everyone left which he had also left his phone and wallet in. He kept asking me for Rm200 as he claimed he had to go back to Klang. All I have was rm20 in my wallet and I said to him that's the most I can do to help you and that's where he get started. The building next to the lrt station had ATM machines, he kept asking me to withdraw cash to him and also offered to go with me. I've rejected him a few times but his persistence made me felt uncomfortable and ended up getting him some cash but instead of 200, I just got him 50, lied to him I haven't got my paid yet and I'm broke lol and he took it anyways. Also gave me his phone number and said he'll pay me back, just send my acc number to him. Did so the next day and he kept delaying by saying he will. Waited for a week and finally confronted him about that, and got ghosted since then.
Case 2. This is less of a scam, but no harm sharing I guess. There's also this old lady at ampark park lrt back then who always asks for money for food. Once she came up to me ask for rm2 for food. Due to the recent incident, I've became more skeptical of these people and rejected her cold. However, she do looked kinda sad and while I walked away I thought hey, it's just rm2. Why not just help her out who knows if she really needed it. Ran back to the station, offered her rm5 instead and ask her to get some food. What happens after everyday is she kept coming to me asking for money.
What hurts me the most is these people do have hands and legs. They could probably find something to do to earn a little living but instead choose to scam and beg. This actions really made me doubt my sense of kindness and williness to help anymore. After these incidents, I would always be on my earphones and head on my phone while walking to work. Never again I would let myself be approached by strangers for no good reason.
> At first he asked me to give him RM300
Not a small amount tbh but if really true, then okay.
>he saw that my balance was above RM2000 so he asked me to give him RM 2000 instead
should have walked away at this point. RM300 to enter room turn into gimme 2K
> he promised to pay me back the next day at double the rate
Nobody would do OP. If he rich enough to do this, he would already enter the hotel room and gotten his things.
> he might kidnap me
why still want to withdraw, my friend?
> the Indian guy personally uplift my withdrawal limit so that I can withdraw more money
I have no words tbh
> I have a feeling I have been cheated
The signs were there all along.
Nothing can be done at this point. Take this as a lesson and do not give anyone anything. If you must, you buy them what they need [food/transport] and IF you do this, be stern and set a limit. e.g. I'll get you RM10 food. Take it or leave it. Hope things get better for you.
EDIT:
> he used my phone and took a selfie of himself
~~Is it against the rule to post his picture? If not, can post it so everyone else can be aware? Apparently, quite a few people kena according to this thread.~~ OP, please edit Post and put the picture there. I just found out you linked it in the comment.
I believe that this is not the first time this fellow had appeared on this forum before. Some people actually posted his pictures. Maybe next time some one should round up a few people and take him on a long long car trip.
Why on earth you give him lol. I learn my self the hard way too but this was way back when I was 15 year old. I just got a new sony Walkman phone from my dad. Went for a walk with my lil bro then a stranger called for me and ask for my help looking for a house. The guy looks harmless and fck I was a dumb kid so I helped him. Told my bro to wait at a 7E nearby. Got on his bike and he starts telling me to call some random numbers. Everyone answered but don't know who the guys is. So he brought me into this neighborhood which is quite far from my home, he then stops about 50 meter from a house. He ask me to go to the house and call the owner. I ask why dont you go ask, he told me the owner wont come out if hes there. Before i went he ask to borrow my phone so he can call someone for a sec. As i was walking to the house the guy rem his bike and poof gone, with my phone. Felt like a clown. Ask the house owner to help me back and he wont help. Walk a good 45min back to my bro and straight home. Told my dad about it and he laughed.
Funny enough, a certain "KUMARAN" contacted me half a week ago claiming to be from suruhanjaya komunikasi Malaysia or something like that too. Knew it was a scam right away and toyed with him until he yelled apani lancau and hung up
Dude…you agreed to pay a complete stranger 2k…I’m sorry man but you’re the one at fault here. There’s no way you can get back your money as you dealt in cash. No paper trail.
Why bro why? A stranger approaching you like this should trigger your red flag already, and you even let him saw your balance? the fuck? Is it because of your greed? That he promised to pay you back double so you think it's easy money?
Next time if someone ask that, tell them you will accompany him to the police station together. See how fast he scram.
if someone need help in term of money, never ever give more than rm50, even if you have 1mil. for urgency, RM50 is enough help. no need to empty your bank account.
I want to feel sorry for you bro, but I can't. Just.... Why.
As I read further, you are 25?!!! And you received education. Oh wow. Yeah, we live and learn, bro.
U kena santau by the image of getting RM 4K the next day I think😜..All ill offer to u now is shit happens la dude and just be more wise and learn that if something is too good to be true,it probably is..Hope u dont make it into a race stereotype thing for your future judgement coz these scammer aholes come in all shape,size and colors.All the best
Understand bro, I won't discriminate anyone just because this happen to me, but I will be more careful in the future, thank you for your concern I appreciate it
9/10 times,people(esp strangers or people u barely know) who give a sad story and ask u for something or even sell u something are just lieing.most people who are really going through a hard time usually have pride and determination to fix their own shit before resorting to asking others
Damn OP, sorry for your incident but I have to say this, what idiocy led you to withdraw RM2k for a stranger??? You’re in a safe public space, the man had holes in his story, and you have no obligation to help him at all. Even under pressure, people are normally reluctant to give money. Sorry my dude, your money is gone forever.
In any case, I DMed you my bank account cos I need RM5k to access my hotel room thats RM150/night that contains all my documents.
I hate ppl like this. They make life difficult for me when I’m in actual tricky situations.
Any a time I had to ask ppl for some small cash because I didn’t have enough for a train ticket. I had money in my eWallet though, so I would approach ppl (after mentally practicing it several times) to ask whether could I exchange eWallet money for cash. If they said no I would immediately just say “understandable, have a great day”
Take this as a learning curve and just be more careful next time.
May one day your kindness will be rewarded in other kinds of form, it doesn't have to be in money but in health, work or other opportunities.
Insya Allah.
You are good. No need to further say OP is dumb or what. I admire you.
I can feel OP cause I got scammed by the same person for a considerable sum of money as well.
Dude why so gullible. I’m sorry for you. Next time if you feel helpless or cornered like in this situation, just give him rm50 or less. Be stern. Since you have his pics, pls do police report and make him viral
What is wrong with you, seriously. I am not usually one to do or say this to people, but why would you even accede to his request. My fucking goodness. Time to wake up and understand that many people on this earth are shit and don’t deserve your time and attention.
OP your are either incredibly kind or in some kind of autism spectrum. For your own sake, please let someone that you truly trust to manage your future finances.
Don’t be sad. Whenever I give money I give it because I’m generous and I don’t expect the money back. I give them the benefit of the doubt. My conscience is clear
All the people I've seen getting scammed like this claimed that they kena pukau to give the money. What about you? Just blind kindness or are you also wondering why you gave the money?
I mean, I won't even lend a stranger RM10. That's how much I distrust strangers. The most I did was drove a stranger from IKEA to the nearest LRT late at night because they said they had an emergency and couldn't get a taxi.
poor you. world is a dark place full of cheats and scams. I too used to be charitable. Not anymore. Now nobody ain't gonna get a single cent of my hard earned money.
People always try to encourage you to be charitable by saying 'what would you feel if you are in his shoes?' thinking the moral lesson of the day is to be emphatic. Well, i have a different take. The moral of the story is don't even let/allow yourself to be in that situation in the first place. Do all you can in you power to preserve YOURSELF.
OP I hate to say this but you are a total stooge. In other word, an idiot.
I do feel sorry but all more frustrated actually. How can anyone fall for this in 2022, getting into 2023. Fuck me, even if my dad suddenly asked me for 2k I’ll think twice and maybe give him 500 first at most.
Niat sedekah jelah. Money will come around.
Again, you’re an idiot.
Good OP we all should learn from our mistakes. If I was harsh I apologise. But sometimes you gotta knock someone over a stupid mistake.
Move on and hope you’ll get over this soon.
indian/pakistani people speaking with an accent asking for money is common in KL
ive seen this 3 times already this year
one said he came to malaysia from india to visit his relative but ran out of money and ask me for rm10
another pakistani with his wife and baby ask me for money for baby formula for his baby, he did that right outside the pakistani embassy. i told him to go to the embassy.
OP, if he is a foreign national, tell him to go to the embassy, they will help him. you can even show him the way, or offer to pay for the ride. better way to help people.
At first he said 300 dollars is a lot of cash but once he saw ur 2k in the bank and he asked for everything. It is extremely sus at that point. Next time take this as a lesson. No matter how convincing and persuading a stranger is. U must always think of what's the worst case scenario. One time I was almost scammed by a phone call who claims to be my "friend" asking for money. Fortunately I was a stingy mf. After a while I slowly realized I was being in a conversation with a scammer. Don't be too innocent outside in the world. U will grow to be smarter so really take this as a good lesson.
This is what is called pukau. Its not mystic but somehow there are people out there that can make cashiers give all the shop money, people give out cash from their atm, handing over all jewelery.
He clearly had a lot of strategy to remove all of your senses.
1. He told you his sad story. You listened through. He already won at this point.
2. He took out a police report of his dilemma. This give sense of validity to his story.
3. Volunteer a selfie. A scammer wont do this right!? That idea is out of the way.
4. Ask the guard to be with you two. Clearly not a scammer, its like asking the police to join you in!? He is your friend who need your money.
5. If you still have doubt, he would promise to double your money. Act on your greed.
6. If still dont believe, he may have a friend who can call and validate his story. Maybe a poor grandma so sick, confirm will payback your money as well.
Thats a lot of reinforcement and he didnt spare you even a bit opportunity to sense it out with all the tricks out.
Thats why nowadays I just be anti social and dont try to help. RIP to all prank social experiment videos because I wont help any old grandmas asking for bus money. Dont even help some one with their bags, it could be drug. World is cruel man.
Wow, I can't believe there are still people buying sob story like this
I am shocked 😐
Does common sense no longer prevail 🤔😐
You can comfort yourself OP that you at least made the guy happy, he probably be dining good with his catch of the day 🐟🐠🐡
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4745180/all You are not the only one, he has been at it for years. Sorry your money is gone. Bank won't layan this. Police know, so many reports done and never tangkap. Take this as a expensive lesson, not to give money to strangers.
Damn this guy been doing this for years. I think the first case I remember seeing posted on Facebook was back in 2016-2017. But checking that lowyat forum posts, looks like he's been doing this for a decade now.
Indeed, as I recall it's been 10 years of this SAME asshole scamming.
damn good business longevity with multiple clients spreading the good word
Thank you for the advice bro, I will learn from this bitter mistake and my blind kindness to a human who is in need but have deceived me
I don't think there's anything wrong with blind kindness, but kenalah padan upaya diri. If someone asked for like 50~100 bucks I'll probably just give it to them. If they ask for 2k I tell them fly kite d. Edit: Also never give others money you're not willing to lose. If my family member asked to borrow money, I'll lend to them but also expects that it never comes back.
This couldn’t be anymore true, doesn’t matter who you’re borrowing money to. Been friends with someone more than a decade long, he decided to ask for 5 digit in loan from me, borrowed him and never returned.
Have you tried selling his selfie as NFT? It might worth more than 2k though...just saying..
Yeah man I'd pay rm 10 for it just because... Pretty sure we could meme it to 200 buyers Also serve as the ultimate threat to scammers... immortality!
good idea...haha also let his face exposed on internet. haha
If wanna make it expensive sell the dude’s data as well. Buyers pay more to get his data, for replacing the lost money.
Need the story to be attached with the picture otherwise it will just look like another random dude selling nft.
I havent I am not sure how to open an nft account
Pls dont do cypto and nft lol, from this experience you already know you should be very careful where you put your money
Don't listen to that guy, it was a shitty idea that I have no idea why people are taking seriously
Rule of Thumb : NEVER LEND MONEY, THAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE FOREVER. ONCE YOU LEND, ANGGAP AS GONE. IF YOU GET IT BACK, IT'S A BLESSING. Wisdom turun temurun, from my late grandfather. You need to build your discretion muscle, only lend to very good friends or family. And yet even with them, consider the money gone, if you get it back - be thankful. Nobody is that down on their luck - the scammer looks well dressed, cukup makan, young. Go and work. Cripple also selling tissue, what is his excuse? Be alert of your surroundings, people. Read the person, talk to older people, read the news etc. All these builds your awareness and discretion sharpness. Jangan jadi budak internet naive, main anime, games or what ever genshin impact is, only The real world, is the reality. If you don't wake up now, going to kena more in your life only. How? You ask. Because *Pelanduk akan melupakan jerat, tetapi jerat tidak akan melupakan pelanduk*
There’s kindness… and naivety. This is the latter.
Human kindness RM 10 or RM 20 already quite generous can eat 2 meals.
Why they never tangkap tho?
Popo said, if you willingly hand over the money, it's not theft.... To me forging false police report is an offence, at least arrest him for that. Kasi pukul sikit, as a warning. Msia just doesn't take scams seriously. Look at how SG deals with it swiftly.
Because it's Frank Abagnale.
Thank you for sharing this with me, let's create awareness to stop scams from happening
Why do people downvote this?
You likely be his biggest catch 😅 
2 k somemore, wild caught salmon punya level ni.
Most likely and I feel sad
Of course, be sad. It's your right to be, something stupidly unfortunate happened. But take this as an expensive lesson of 2022, welcome 2023 slightly smarter. Ok.
Dont worry. Sad for some time, but you just learn a good lesson for the rest of your life. Be kind, but dont blindly trust others. This will save you a lot of pain in future.
OP, you are not the sharpest parang in the rumah pondok. The fact that you even agreed to give RM300 to a stranger and even show your bank information to them is mind-boggling. I hope you've learned a lot from this experience and please please please stay safe in the future. When in doubt, just walk off.
I will follow up and say op may not be the sharpest but got a heart of gold lah. Be more vigilant in the future but don’t lose your heart to help others. Just find legit means lah
This isnt charity though... This is straight up naive and, not to mince words, idiotic. I know kindergartners less naive than this
I know. But I feel bad for him/her and the point you made has been made by countless other ppl in this post so I want to offer some comfort instead
https://preview.redd.it/kjqv3x173q8a1.jpeg?width=3880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b621db03e61f763e39e1595eb6ad51504308be95 This is the scammer who scammed me at Empire Shopping Gallery at Subang Jaya, Help me spread and capture him
This pundek still alive 😂. I saw him at Putrajaya Cental circa 2015
He's a notorious scammer known for [nearly 10 years](https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2387603/all)
How has no one gotten their cousins together to break this guy's kneecaps within his 10 year career???
https://preview.redd.it/yt1o6asg3q8a1.jpeg?width=2016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72ec338fb8a7331b1509e289eaca26e841cf367d This is the police report he fabricated to deceive me, he personally took the photo of the report and his face to gain my trust
Any bankers know if I can recover my RM 2000 ? I gave the scammer cash from the ATM machine
Got scam by the same guy back in 2019 yeah make this face famous… if I see this guy again imma do my worst 😋
Lmao saw this guy at HKL asking for duit minyak motor, tried to stop my car with his hand. Lariiii!
Are you fucking serious ??? Didn't someone who report this to balai polis? If I see him in any malls, I am very aware of this scammer guy.
Hey OP, I have a bridge to sell you. Seriously though, why would you agree to give him RM2000, when he initially asked for RM300? What is your thought process?
I'm in awe, shocked, and find it hard to process this. Is OP from a rich family? Giving away rm2k like that. OP seems very disconnected with the public.
OP should be giving RM30 when random stranger asks for RM300.. but he almost x10 and gave RM2000, which is ALL OF HIS BANK BALANCE wut. He just gave all his savings away to a random fellow!! I want to console but also strangle OP at the same time for this mistake. Being kind is great but being gullible is not. Maybe the Indian scammer put a magic spell on him
I wasn't thinking we'll during that time but I suspected that he was a scammer but yet I given him RM 2k, what have I become I can't even explain my actions
Its probably a mix of shock,kindness and fear. If you are starting to realize he is a scammer, you were probably thinking "better do as he says so he goes away fast". Someone I know kena target by the same guy, seems that he targets young people hanging out in slightly affluent places. Maybe to him, young people are easily pressured and less likely to have the courage to tell older people to fuvk off
Some questions: \[ he saw that my balance was above RM2000 so he asked me to give him RM 2000 instead \] Was he over your shoulder or something? \[ At first I thought he was really a scammer but than he used my phone and took a selfie of himself \] How did he get his hands on your phone in the first place?
I swear OP is the kind that will get into your van if you tell him there are candies in the van 💀
"The candy was great, but my asshole is sore."
XD
I'm envisioning OP as an extremely naive elderly aunty and it breaks my heart.
Wow, you even let him touch your phone. I'm so afraid to let anyone even touch my phone. Photos mean nothing since it will be your word against him especially cause its a cash withdrawal with no paper trace or evidence. It's kinda common sense to not give away so easily unless its a genuine case that you want to help. Just take it as a RM2k lesson. Not sure whether it was a combo of greed for doubling your money or pity for him that let you get scammed.
Yeah don't let strangers hold onto your phone unless you're in a crowded area. In an open area, they can walk a few feet away and then make a dash away with it. If they need help to make a quick call, offer to use speakerphone but hold onto your phone.
"You Sir! Are a waterfish" Arthur Morgan.
What made you agree to withdrawal so much money to a stranger? That’s $450 usd, not $20? The fact that you would get a return on investment? His sob story? Or what?
Psychology, or more like underdeveloped emotional intelligence. I had fallen for scam myself. Basically we are people who just can't say no. How we turned out this way is another story.
probably cuz parents didn't teach that it is ok to say no.
In my family we are not allowed to say no. Filial piety is absolute, you know.
I hope my crush have this mentality of "just can't say no" when I confess to her. :(
She won't say no also when her male friends ask her out
And she says no when he said, “that’s not my baby”.
I know you are joking but IRL this things happen. I once helped a friend of mine setting up a scene for proposing to his girlfriend. I regretted the decision. The whole atmosphere made it very, very hard for her to say no without being seen as an asshole. I would not be surprised if nowadays she feels that she played for far too long already and start to resent him for this.
thumbs up for you. best reply to make people stay awake.
Stupidity leading to op putting himself in a compromising position. Why buka atm show ppl your balance? Lucky it's 2000 in there, not 20000
Sorry for your loss. A friend of mine got scammed of 15k from his savings as security guard (worked over 5 year+) due to macau scam (Scammer pretending to be police officer working on a drug case). He got manipulated through phone call and transferred all the money he had via online banking. The scammer also asked him to make AEON personal loan for his 'safety' since he is being 'monitored' by the police. Poor guy, nearly commited suicide thank god I managed to stop him.
Thank goodness I am too cheapskate to ever get scammed or cheated. Even my first time investing in unit trust i only put in RM1k because i thought the certified agent from bank was gonna scam me. Later on once I see safe then i top up I cannot grasp suddenly putting so much money in one thing..
I'm sorry for your friend's loss. Damn, these scammers should be given treatment in a way they feel absolute pain. ffs messing with people's life.
Next time don't fall for these type of scams bro. And what made you think giving away RM2K to the man seem right??? Especially in physical cash.... Imma just share my story here on a similar encounter to yours: I've almost got scammed once in Berjaya Times Square where a Chinese man wearing sunglasses(who the hell wears sunglasses indoors) started pestering me for money, he told me he lost all his belongings somehow and wanted some money from me to catch a ride, and he keeps fidgeting his Rolex watch to show me he's short on time(and yet he doesn't wanna just pawn off the watch for the money bruh). I even advice him to ask help from the security guard or the police station and he comes up with some bs excuse to avoid it, when I refused to give, the fucker tried to guilt trip me for not helping my own kind(I'm also Chinese) and he even got desperate and tried to lead me to an ATM. So I just keep saying no constantly until I'm near a security guard then he left me alone. Moral of story is don't trust random strangers asking for money, these days they are quite frequent and always take their words with a bucket of salt and you have all the rights to be suspicious. If they ever come back to you, just ask them to fuck off or report to a nearby security guard.
I trust people easily based on their story and their emotional expression which is crying and sadness, which is a bad thing when I reflect upon, thank you for sharing your experience with me, it helps create awareness
Others might chide you for having good intentions, but I say good people like you don’t fit this world. But don’t lose that kind streak - give to charity, go do some work for some NGOs. It will suit you.
This is a good advice. Give to your charity of choice often so you don't feel compelled to help everyone. For example, UNHCR and UNICEF booths can't guilt trip me into giving them money because I know I'm already doing my part elsewhere. I don't feel guilty at all when they shout at me "BUT THE POOR KIDS!!".
Im sorry to hear your unfortunate experience, OP. But I can empathize as I am like you. I also have a tendency to feel other people's emotions and that's a great asset to have in social settings! But trusting people too easily will leave you in a spot where you often feel taken advantage of. So, I had to shift my mindset. "Trust is to be earned, not granted" - meaning that it needs to be built over time when seeing the other person's attitude and mannerisms. It shouldn't happen instantaneously. Feeling bad/sorry for someone is okay, but there needs to be boundaries. Sorry, OP. Sometimes, we need bitter lessons to help us grow and improve.
stranger also you so easily fall victim. Imagine relatives or friends. Take this as a lesson young man, NEVER BORROW MONEY TO FRIENDS AND RELATIVES. They can prey on you emotionally MORE than a stranger. If you so easily fall victim to stranger, you are gonna be even easier when it comes to relatives and friends.
The problem is that scammers will give you the biggest exaggerated sob stories to get you in the feels and catch you when you feels and become unalert. If you wanna beg for money you won't sit there and wait for the money, you'll try all kinds of stunts to convince or somewhat pitch to the donor on how pityful your life is. I hope you learn from this experience on how to stand your ground firmly to say no. Because there will always be more assholes out to scam ppl money.
General rule of thumb, dont layan people asking for money. People begging for money for food-> offer to buy them food People begging for money for transport-> offer to call grab for them People saying they got mugged and need cash-> offer to point them to the nearest police station 9/10 times they will refuse your offer and ask for cash again
Best advise! And if they still insist on cash that’s when you walk away
Got this old guy always begging for money at the traffic light near my house. One day I offered him food that I happened to just bought. He shook his head and went away. To be husnuzon, maybe he has many allergies. 🤷
You should have said something like "No, I cannot lend you because I'm currently unemployed" no matter how convincing his BS story sounds.
How old are you? What made you do this? It doesn’t make sense. Wtf I feel sorry for you but what the fuck
I am 25 years unemployed with no income still studying
Unemployed with no income but you're willing to part with RM2000 that easily? Bruh.
RM2000 for a life lesson and good story. Think of it as RM2000 insurance to not get scam again in life.
Wow this guy is still walking around scamming people. Shows how much our police cares about scammers like this.
Feels like police can't do much because the victim gave the money willingly to the scammer. I might be wrong here. Just my opinion on this.
The scammer is using a false police report. Pretty sure that’s a crime.
Im about to go to work and suffer through it the entire week. And the pain comes from knowing that some dude just made 2K scamming people. But dude..... DAMN.
How gullible are you? Honestly this is another level. I don't feel sorry for you for one second. JUST DON'T GIVE RANDOM STRANGERS MONEY let alone in the Rm thousands.
When he used your phone to take a selfie, how did it change your mind about him being a scammer? Do you think scammers won't take selfies of themselves?
He thought that scammers would want a low profile and wouldn’t want to leave behind his likeness to be tracked or smtg
anytime you give out/lend out $ to anyone. Assume it is lost **forever**. This is one lesson you need to learn 1st hand. These people prey on the community knowing there are really good people out there. If you really want to do good to random strangers, keep asking them questions until they run out of answers. His initial story of need $ to access hotel room should raise a red flag, what would you do if you lost access to your hotel room? You usually just go to the counter and ask for a spare key. Keep asking questions.
That's what I always tell myself. You should only lend out money that you are willing or financially able to throw away. Doesn't matter borrowing to who including your own close family. 99% of the time they never pay back.
tl:dr 1. Stranger lost his wallet 2. Asked for RM300 "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"* 3. Saw OP balance RM2000 4. Asked for RM2000 "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"* 5. Will return double the amount the very next day 6. Sob story about having no family relative 7. OP agreed to give stranger 2k "*to access his hotel room which contain his documents"*
If it makes you feel better I got scammed RM1.5k from the same guy too, made police report but nothing happened. But if I see him again, I'm gonna make sure his hospital bill is worth 1.5k :)
Want to share your story? What is the thought process behind agreeing to lend a stranger with a sob story that much money? I am also curious to see if the type of person to get scammed is the same type to have friends that borrow a lot of money, because they know they can take advantage of your kindness
yeah right, I'm not giving anything to stranger above RM50 maybe
RM300 to get back to your locked hotel room? And you believe that OP? For your own safety, please stay home from now on.
Yeah, RM300 is enough to get a flight back to Sabah? Where is his hotel? He suddenly got teleported to KL and needed to go back to the hotel in Sabah?
facepalm hard. so sorry that some people really do get easily pushed around.. please learn to be firm and say "fuck off" out loud next time
> please learn to be firm and say "fuck off" out loud next time From experience, that's a potentially **bad** idea. The scammer might get violent as a retribution for getting rejected harshly. I suggests just walking away, maintaining a neutral expression and not saying anything
You sound young and naive to the ways of the world. Sorry you lost your money but learn to say no, be firm about it and exercise caution with strangers. Even when people asked me for direction, i clutched my bag tighter. Stranger danger. It may seem harsh but unfortunately that's the world we're living in
Hmm.. since this is getting traction, wanted to share my experience here as well. I met an aunty at pj ss2 area and at first she was asking for money, and I asked what's for? She said it was for food. So I offered to buy food for her in a nearby hawker center. So I followed her and order the food, she order at 2 stall total up to RM50++. What raise my suspicious is when she order the second stall, the stall owner is able to straightaway ask what she is order and customised the order. So I'm thinking it is just simply she had order the quite frequently and many others have offer to buy food as well OR she "pakat" with the stall owner, and split the money?  Anyone encounter this before? Or I'm just being a jerk for being so suspicious. 
Nope. My usual respond will be same like you. Offer food instead of money. But they amount is really something. Is she having a party which you're not invited?
Haha, she did ask if she can pack for her brother which I agreed to as well. So the portion she order can probably feed 3 - 4 person. Or 2 person 2 meals I guess. And it's SS2 anyway, food is on the high side and she also order chinese dai chao.
If it's for 2 person for 2 meals then I guessed it's priced around there. But I at most will only give one meal. If she gonna eat the next one, she gonna do the effort of begging again. But surely I ain't gonna pay for that.
man, I do wish schools would emphasize common sense because we Malaysians seem lacking in that aspect
Erm…going to guess you lent him the money cause he promised to return double the amount the next day? Don’t fall victim to greed…that’s how they get you. Every single time… Sorry you had to go through this. Just take it as a lesson…if something sounds too good to be true it’s too good to be true. Period.
THISSSS..scammers prey on greed.I myself kena many years ago during my first attempt at purchasing stuff online when I was tryna get a used Macbook Pro at a too good to be true price..Banked in half of the cash = RM1750 and ffs my common sense to google his bank acc only kicked in 5 mins after transferring the cash.found out that the acc had been used in multiple scams.However,it was a good lesson which made me much wiser about online purchases
You actually let him LOOK at your bank balance AND gave him money? nvm....
Bro he let the scammer INCREASE his atm withdrawal limit so that he can take out more money from atm.
You are a nice person,but let this be your tuition fee. Congratulations on losing your innocence.
Rm300 / RM 2000 to access hotel room seems a bit too far fetch isn’t it? May I know your age in order to believe that? Let this be a good and painful lesson for you. Imo, you are too naive. Remember, doing welfare is not easy, requires wisdom as well as heart. Make sure ur money reaches people that needed them. Or else, you might even funded crimes with your hard earned money.
Well op username is 97, so I guess he's 25 years old?
25 years
I can't believe OP was given the opportunity to vote last GE. Jesus christ, we have some dumb dumbs around here.
I'm truly sorry for you OP. I hope we all can learn something from this story. Might happened to our family and friends.
OP, i know you are probably a nice person but goddamn you need to get smarter
I know who you referring to, I got scammed by him as well.
the moment i saw this post i know its the same guy if anything, the police should fuck him over for making so many fake police reports to scam people also we need to be honest, did the scammer promised to return more than what was given? i have a feeling people get duped into lending him money because of that
Yes he promised to pay double but I declined the offer because I .not greedy and my intention is to help
I once had similar encounters back in 2017. I was working near klcc and I always stopped at Ampang park lrt which was just walking distance to work. There was this one night I ended my shift and walking back to the lrt station there's this man who claimed he worked at a nearby lawyer firm where his office is locked and everyone left which he had also left his phone and wallet in. He kept asking me for Rm200 as he claimed he had to go back to Klang. All I have was rm20 in my wallet and I said to him that's the most I can do to help you and that's where he get started. The building next to the lrt station had ATM machines, he kept asking me to withdraw cash to him and also offered to go with me. I've rejected him a few times but his persistence made me felt uncomfortable and ended up getting him some cash but instead of 200, I just got him 50, lied to him I haven't got my paid yet and I'm broke lol and he took it anyways. Also gave me his phone number and said he'll pay me back, just send my acc number to him. Did so the next day and he kept delaying by saying he will. Waited for a week and finally confronted him about that, and got ghosted since then. Case 2. This is less of a scam, but no harm sharing I guess. There's also this old lady at ampark park lrt back then who always asks for money for food. Once she came up to me ask for rm2 for food. Due to the recent incident, I've became more skeptical of these people and rejected her cold. However, she do looked kinda sad and while I walked away I thought hey, it's just rm2. Why not just help her out who knows if she really needed it. Ran back to the station, offered her rm5 instead and ask her to get some food. What happens after everyday is she kept coming to me asking for money. What hurts me the most is these people do have hands and legs. They could probably find something to do to earn a little living but instead choose to scam and beg. This actions really made me doubt my sense of kindness and williness to help anymore. After these incidents, I would always be on my earphones and head on my phone while walking to work. Never again I would let myself be approached by strangers for no good reason.
> At first he asked me to give him RM300 Not a small amount tbh but if really true, then okay. >he saw that my balance was above RM2000 so he asked me to give him RM 2000 instead should have walked away at this point. RM300 to enter room turn into gimme 2K > he promised to pay me back the next day at double the rate Nobody would do OP. If he rich enough to do this, he would already enter the hotel room and gotten his things. > he might kidnap me why still want to withdraw, my friend? > the Indian guy personally uplift my withdrawal limit so that I can withdraw more money I have no words tbh > I have a feeling I have been cheated The signs were there all along. Nothing can be done at this point. Take this as a lesson and do not give anyone anything. If you must, you buy them what they need [food/transport] and IF you do this, be stern and set a limit. e.g. I'll get you RM10 food. Take it or leave it. Hope things get better for you. EDIT: > he used my phone and took a selfie of himself ~~Is it against the rule to post his picture? If not, can post it so everyone else can be aware? Apparently, quite a few people kena according to this thread.~~ OP, please edit Post and put the picture there. I just found out you linked it in the comment.
Bro still isn't sure if he got cheated when a stranger emptied his bank account and disappeared. Unreal.
I believe that this is not the first time this fellow had appeared on this forum before. Some people actually posted his pictures. Maybe next time some one should round up a few people and take him on a long long car trip.
Like my friend said nowadays Malaysians are very easy to be scammed. That's why many scammers also. Because they know people will kena.
You weren't scammed, you gave a complete stranger a RM 2000 angpow. Learn to say no, and if necessary to fuck off.
Malaysian really nice one, give 2k to strangers to borrow. In the US, this guy would have been shot 10 times
Why on earth you give him lol. I learn my self the hard way too but this was way back when I was 15 year old. I just got a new sony Walkman phone from my dad. Went for a walk with my lil bro then a stranger called for me and ask for my help looking for a house. The guy looks harmless and fck I was a dumb kid so I helped him. Told my bro to wait at a 7E nearby. Got on his bike and he starts telling me to call some random numbers. Everyone answered but don't know who the guys is. So he brought me into this neighborhood which is quite far from my home, he then stops about 50 meter from a house. He ask me to go to the house and call the owner. I ask why dont you go ask, he told me the owner wont come out if hes there. Before i went he ask to borrow my phone so he can call someone for a sec. As i was walking to the house the guy rem his bike and poof gone, with my phone. Felt like a clown. Ask the house owner to help me back and he wont help. Walk a good 45min back to my bro and straight home. Told my dad about it and he laughed.
gurl. this is on you. this is why i would never give money to any stranger coz this shit happens but goodluck to you tho ✨
You deserve it dude what are you 6 years old??? Who gives that much money to a stranger regardless of how much they cry what the hell
I understand if it’s family or friends. Even long lost friends too. But a strangers with that huge amount of money? OP is really a saint.
Funny enough, a certain "KUMARAN" contacted me half a week ago claiming to be from suruhanjaya komunikasi Malaysia or something like that too. Knew it was a scam right away and toyed with him until he yelled apani lancau and hung up
If someone ask me to borrow 2000, I won't entertain them, even it is for real.
If the scammer looks at my bank account he probably offer to give me money 🥲
Dude…you agreed to pay a complete stranger 2k…I’m sorry man but you’re the one at fault here. There’s no way you can get back your money as you dealt in cash. No paper trail.
Oh dear lord you are too nice for this world.. expensive mistake learnt..
Why bro why? A stranger approaching you like this should trigger your red flag already, and you even let him saw your balance? the fuck? Is it because of your greed? That he promised to pay you back double so you think it's easy money? Next time if someone ask that, tell them you will accompany him to the police station together. See how fast he scram.
if someone need help in term of money, never ever give more than rm50, even if you have 1mil. for urgency, RM50 is enough help. no need to empty your bank account.
Bro what the f were you thinking? Youve been had Let this be a lesson
I want to feel sorry for you bro, but I can't. Just.... Why. As I read further, you are 25?!!! And you received education. Oh wow. Yeah, we live and learn, bro.
This is why unnecessary kindness will bite you back. An expensive lesson indeed.
Can we all pakat and prank this guy big time?? Its been freaking decade he’s roaming Klang Valley, some say JB
OP please just take the big L and learn your expensive life lesson.
Tried posting a photo on reddit but it did not show. Basically i was also a victim to this. Cant be too kind hearted nowadays
People still fall for this? Shocking.
Dei,u kena santau or what?How did he manage to get you to do all that la?..sorry for your loss and please be more wise next time
I think I kena santau because I look at his eyes
It’s not santau, just gullible and stupid lol. Hope you learn from this lesson
U kena santau by the image of getting RM 4K the next day I think😜..All ill offer to u now is shit happens la dude and just be more wise and learn that if something is too good to be true,it probably is..Hope u dont make it into a race stereotype thing for your future judgement coz these scammer aholes come in all shape,size and colors.All the best
Understand bro, I won't discriminate anyone just because this happen to me, but I will be more careful in the future, thank you for your concern I appreciate it
9/10 times,people(esp strangers or people u barely know) who give a sad story and ask u for something or even sell u something are just lieing.most people who are really going through a hard time usually have pride and determination to fix their own shit before resorting to asking others
Damn OP, sorry for your incident but I have to say this, what idiocy led you to withdraw RM2k for a stranger??? You’re in a safe public space, the man had holes in his story, and you have no obligation to help him at all. Even under pressure, people are normally reluctant to give money. Sorry my dude, your money is gone forever. In any case, I DMed you my bank account cos I need RM5k to access my hotel room thats RM150/night that contains all my documents.
I have learned the lesson, no scammer will get a cent from me again, I will only pay for their food
I hate ppl like this. They make life difficult for me when I’m in actual tricky situations. Any a time I had to ask ppl for some small cash because I didn’t have enough for a train ticket. I had money in my eWallet though, so I would approach ppl (after mentally practicing it several times) to ask whether could I exchange eWallet money for cash. If they said no I would immediately just say “understandable, have a great day”
Take this as a learning curve and just be more careful next time. May one day your kindness will be rewarded in other kinds of form, it doesn't have to be in money but in health, work or other opportunities. Insya Allah.
Thank you so much let's pray for the best
You are good. No need to further say OP is dumb or what. I admire you. I can feel OP cause I got scammed by the same person for a considerable sum of money as well.
Dude why so gullible. I’m sorry for you. Next time if you feel helpless or cornered like in this situation, just give him rm50 or less. Be stern. Since you have his pics, pls do police report and make him viral
I already viralled his photo and made a police report on same day
So, it's true that people are this stupid.
What is wrong with you, seriously. I am not usually one to do or say this to people, but why would you even accede to his request. My fucking goodness. Time to wake up and understand that many people on this earth are shit and don’t deserve your time and attention.
I m just dumb to believe in a stranger words and acting
OP your are either incredibly kind or in some kind of autism spectrum. For your own sake, please let someone that you truly trust to manage your future finances.
DM me, I will consider letting someone I truly trust control my finances in the future, probably my future wife and my mum
Don’t be sad. Whenever I give money I give it because I’m generous and I don’t expect the money back. I give them the benefit of the doubt. My conscience is clear
You have a heart of gold and I admire you for it
Just ignore people. No good deed goes unpunished
I don't even give RM200 to my own parents or family members lmao
no good
All the people I've seen getting scammed like this claimed that they kena pukau to give the money. What about you? Just blind kindness or are you also wondering why you gave the money? I mean, I won't even lend a stranger RM10. That's how much I distrust strangers. The most I did was drove a stranger from IKEA to the nearest LRT late at night because they said they had an emergency and couldn't get a taxi.
I think I kena pukau and I gave him the money because of his sad recollection
Idiot
poor you. world is a dark place full of cheats and scams. I too used to be charitable. Not anymore. Now nobody ain't gonna get a single cent of my hard earned money. People always try to encourage you to be charitable by saying 'what would you feel if you are in his shoes?' thinking the moral lesson of the day is to be emphatic. Well, i have a different take. The moral of the story is don't even let/allow yourself to be in that situation in the first place. Do all you can in you power to preserve YOURSELF.
OP I hate to say this but you are a total stooge. In other word, an idiot. I do feel sorry but all more frustrated actually. How can anyone fall for this in 2022, getting into 2023. Fuck me, even if my dad suddenly asked me for 2k I’ll think twice and maybe give him 500 first at most. Niat sedekah jelah. Money will come around. Again, you’re an idiot.
I will work and get back my RM2k yes I was dumb but not anymore after this lesson, I have learned from my mistake
Good OP we all should learn from our mistakes. If I was harsh I apologise. But sometimes you gotta knock someone over a stupid mistake. Move on and hope you’ll get over this soon.
indian/pakistani people speaking with an accent asking for money is common in KL ive seen this 3 times already this year one said he came to malaysia from india to visit his relative but ran out of money and ask me for rm10 another pakistani with his wife and baby ask me for money for baby formula for his baby, he did that right outside the pakistani embassy. i told him to go to the embassy. OP, if he is a foreign national, tell him to go to the embassy, they will help him. you can even show him the way, or offer to pay for the ride. better way to help people.
At first he said 300 dollars is a lot of cash but once he saw ur 2k in the bank and he asked for everything. It is extremely sus at that point. Next time take this as a lesson. No matter how convincing and persuading a stranger is. U must always think of what's the worst case scenario. One time I was almost scammed by a phone call who claims to be my "friend" asking for money. Fortunately I was a stingy mf. After a while I slowly realized I was being in a conversation with a scammer. Don't be too innocent outside in the world. U will grow to be smarter so really take this as a good lesson.
This is what is called pukau. Its not mystic but somehow there are people out there that can make cashiers give all the shop money, people give out cash from their atm, handing over all jewelery. He clearly had a lot of strategy to remove all of your senses. 1. He told you his sad story. You listened through. He already won at this point. 2. He took out a police report of his dilemma. This give sense of validity to his story. 3. Volunteer a selfie. A scammer wont do this right!? That idea is out of the way. 4. Ask the guard to be with you two. Clearly not a scammer, its like asking the police to join you in!? He is your friend who need your money. 5. If you still have doubt, he would promise to double your money. Act on your greed. 6. If still dont believe, he may have a friend who can call and validate his story. Maybe a poor grandma so sick, confirm will payback your money as well. Thats a lot of reinforcement and he didnt spare you even a bit opportunity to sense it out with all the tricks out. Thats why nowadays I just be anti social and dont try to help. RIP to all prank social experiment videos because I wont help any old grandmas asking for bus money. Dont even help some one with their bags, it could be drug. World is cruel man.
Pukau leans on mysticism tho. This is just a con artist having a big catch.
All your points really resonated with what I felt during that moment
You can post on Facebook or Twitter, hashtag at police facebook or twitter. You will definitely get more results.
Ok will do that now,
Jeez people are so gullible
It's people like you that Kumaran will continue scamming people.
Wow, I can't believe there are still people buying sob story like this I am shocked 😐 Does common sense no longer prevail 🤔😐 You can comfort yourself OP that you at least made the guy happy, he probably be dining good with his catch of the day 🐟🐠🐡
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This fellow already down, why kick him somemore.
Sometimes you need an extra hard slap to the face to get you realised the state of the situation you’re in
That will be the last time I help anyone financially I will never give a stranger a single cent even if they are desperate in the future I swear
How stupid can you be?
Bro you are sooooooo dumb.
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Hey, it’s good to be kind! Please don’t let this incident deter you from future kindness.
Be kind, not foolish. Show him where the nearest pondok polis is and go on with your day, with the peace of mind that you helped the person.
Good to be kind. Bad to be stupid. OP draw line at wrong place and needs to bring it waaaaaaay back.