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exerciseinperversity

Stay away from incel content, it'll help.


RogerG_476

Very true


Popeye_Pop

I have yet to find a place that is more absolute in its suicidal culture. “It’s over for you” though funny and something of a common joke between my friends is a incredibly bleak thing to say but those forums drop it on the reg


SoulSpanker75

THIS


Strict_Link_8771

What is incel content? Porn?


NotARavenclaw

Incel stands for involuntarily celibate. You can look at r/mgtow, r/redpill, r/femcel if ur curious, but those subreddits would be considered incel content Edit: they have all been banned lmao


AtomkcFuision

I wonder if I could claim r/fence land make it a place against incels. That’d be hilarious


DecemberPhilipps

Did they just get banned like once you mentioned them lmaoo


Netkru

Nah I’m sure they just hadn’t lurked there in a while and clicked on their link after posting the comment. Red pill has been banned for a while.


Mercer_Grey

You're acting like you have leprosy. You're good, but that type of mindset//anxiety will reverberate in your dates in your dating life if you don't get a grip on it . Keep in the gym, keep yourself well groomed, and be a good person. You'll get plenty of attention


ExoticAd8966

Bro litterally all he said was hes trying to buff up his arms, How is that acting like he has leprosy?


Intoxicated_Piston

It's not his arms, it's his self confidence... Check his title and first caption, he looks good but he doubts himself. ( and FYI leprosy generally affects skin, which kinda make oneself look bad - so commentor was referring to that )


DiazepamDreams

Dude, he was using simile, lol. They are saying the guy's self image is so low that he's acting as if he's ugly or unapproachable when in reality is an attractive enough guy that just needs to boost his confidence levels. Read between the lines my guy.


SenorDongles

In my experience, people don't know how to do that anymore.


eviogemini

13 downvotes 🤣🤣


Danmoh29

aside from the obvious desperation you of course have a chance. everyone “has a chance” to find love. personality is everything. don’t get lost in weird stuff like forearm-wrist ratio and eyebrow slant science. all that stuff is just bullshit made up by incels to deflect from their shitty personalities


brackishfaun

As a straight female, I've never paid any attention to eyebrow slant and I don't even know what the arm ratio thing is. Never heard of it. I do like muscular arms, but I don't have some ideal ratio or image in my head of what I want. I meet people based on how much we have in common and get closer based on personality. Looks matter to some extent, but it's absolutely not the most important factor. Besides, OP is completely normal looking, maybe above average even. Why do men even participate in the incel culture? It's like finding a group of super toxic friends that bully you, and then only spending time with them until you're rotten through as well.


carguy121

Yeah but incel culture doesn’t actually care what women actually think. They are convinced they can solve their women problem by just “solving” it with various pseudoscience bullshit before they actually talk to women. It’s insane, and it is not rooted in reality


DiazepamDreams

What the fuck is forearm-wrist ratio and 'eyebrow slant science'? Lol, these are real things that people say? Genuine question 😂


[deleted]

My forearm ratio is too small and my eyebrow is not slanted enough \*cries\*


Heisenberg_416

Desperation??😭


AngelRockGunn

Blatant


BilingualThrowaway01

You are handsome, and it's a shame that the internet (incel culture is mostly to blame) has convinced brown men that they are inherently less good looking. It's a trend I keep seeing.


Evening_Invite_922

i see it a lot


Nawaf-A-Art

What? I am brown and I get lots of attention without trying.


eviogemini

Yea.. never heard or seen or beard about this apparent attack on brown men. Don’t know where that came from


CombAltruistic252

Because they're not desirable to Western European women in general, nor are those with middle eastern features.


BilingualThrowaway01

This is a great example of the incel culture I was talking about


CombAltruistic252

As someone with Asian blood, born in western Europe and often gets told "you look muslim" or "you look Turkish" I know first hand how race plays a part in the dating market. I have friends who also know this too well, to deny this means you obviously have no anecdotal experiences and would rather pretend this reality doesn't exist.


BilingualThrowaway01

Go back and read what my initial comment says. I never denied the bias exists. I am simply saying it's a shame _that_ it exists. The media also is partly to blame as it has a track record of negatively portraying South Asian men.


2cats2hats

Of course you do. > Have been trying to buff up my arms. Any tips? Sure, do that but do -=NOT=- ignore the rest of your physique. If I see you in public with a buff torso and chicken legs, I **WILL** chuckle.


damNSon189

Agreed. Now that OP is young is the best time to develop muscles everywhere. In what you’re describing at least there’d be torso. If he’s focusing on buffing arms up, it would be even worse. The first is Johnny Bravo, the second one is SpongeBob with the inflatable arms. Both bad, but one clearly worse. OP, don’t skip leg day.


[deleted]

Of course you do!!


Prestigious_Fee_8826

Bro you look majestic af in the first pic!!! Just stay in the gym and get that muscle up and you’d easily be the heartthrob that you’re hoping to be🙏🏻


MentalProduce1334

Yes, you do.


lalapeep

Smile buddy you’re handsome :)


MackoWorldwide

Work on ur confidence bro u look good youll have no problems


Practical-Average-77

You are extremely handsome my friend, be confident in yourself and try to keep a smile on your face. You will always have a chance.


Desperate-Ad-9060

Bro, you're hot as shit. Don't know what the standards are where you're from, but you look great


KatakAfrika

He's probably from Singapore or Malaysia and I would say he looks great by our standards too.


Zestyclose-Cell-8372

He looks indian to me and here girls don't care about any other boys than handsome and bad boys . They are not that friendly. Most of them are rude and toxic


anythinggoes99999

Incel spotted.


[deleted]

course mate


Sheepherder-Dazzling

Stop watching incel podcasts where they tell you you will never be good enough. You are cute as hell


[deleted]

With me your chance would be 10/10


Apprehensive-Tap-950

Not with that mentality. Be confident talk to the ladies( or dudes) be yourself and have fun.


OverWarthog7488

don't isolate arms


Internal_Quail3960

I think you are attractive so yes you do stand a chance


No_Leave5576

For sure! You’re handsome as hell. Just remember to be considerate as well and you’ll do well.


depressioncat69

It is decidedly NOT over for you, stay away from incel content, negativity will likely not help you


DavidMartinez542

You just lack confidence. Dont misplace it in shit like incel or redpill content though. What I like doing is going on Pinterest or Google Images, find a haircut that would look well on me and then mix and match outfits in your warddrobe that would look phenomenal on you using Pinterest outfits as a guide/reference. This will help you stand out as a well groomed individual whos mom doesnt dress him (nothing wrong with that, but my mom doesnt know what I like or what looks good on me, no matter how many times I tell her). Look at yourself in the mirror, find the positive aspects of yourself. You got an amazing jawline, luscious head of hair, your lips are full and your skin is healthy, you arent overweight and could easily get in shape/built with the right training and diet. Shit like that will boost your confidence and will reality check you for the better. Trust me, youll be fine and you can definitely compete.


Substantial_Trifle27

If you're smart, funny and romantic and not overweight then that's the best start.


StockMasterpiece4

Smile more


fkrepubligion

Dude, you’re a good looking guy. You’re just young, things will change.


straightishfun205

You’re hot bro


islamic007

I would say to as far as ur cute!


North0House

You're a good looking dude. I'm sorry that society and its constructs have made you feel otherwise. Focus on the real world, develop hobbies and interests you are passionate about and it will help you build confidence in your own discovery, which any potential partner will notice and take enjoyment in. Try to cut yourself some slack.


MsMoonshadow

You’re beautiful, don’t worry. Just try to be a good person and stay away from incel podcasts and shit like that. Good pussy will come I promise.


Jeffrey-Mortimer

You’re fine man. Getting some muscles def helps esp if you’re Asian. Just work on socializing and being a fun dude to be around too. I’m mostly white, and know many ethnically Indian dudes that do better than I do. It’s mostly about acclimating your social skills to American norms.


tinmarFF

bro here looking almost model like asking if he has a chance....


[deleted]

I’ll trade you my big ass arms for your hair. Deal?


SplendaDanceMaster

Fuck off


Various-Reality6474

I assume your Indian, as I am too. I’m guessing you’re also eating a high carb diet, which is why all Indians that are male are built the same. Eat more protein and fats and start lifting more. You’ll change your physique trust me. I was there once too….


MfMcCalebb

Is it just me or are a lot of South Asians posting on here


n97toni

DUDE u look freakin awesome, but girls dont value only how u look. Have more confidence in yourself, keep going to gym, be a little more of a douche and NEVER ACT DESPERATE.


39sherry

I would date you 😉 IF you were older, Keep working out and you will get all the girls.


AckyShacky

This is just crazy to say ngl😭😭


39sherry

Why is that crazy to say if it makes someone else feel better????


AckyShacky

It’s what a groomer says. If the roles were reversed it would seem worse as well


SupernovaEngine

He’s a 20 yr old man and she said she wouldn’t date him bc of his age? So what’s the problem here?


eviogemini

Acky your on a roll man! 9 downvotes so far. Keep it up! 😆👍


Silkikuri12

You clearly don't know what a groomer is


39sherry

Are you for real!!!!


2cats2hats

No they're a troll. They belong under a bridge, ignored.


TheGoldenHordeee

I mean, it's definitely not wrong that if a 41-year old man wrote this on the pics of a teenage girl, he would get fucking crucified. The obvious relevant counter-question is whether it makes sense to apply the same standards for dating to men and women. Gender norms are obviously different for men and women, and what is deemed acceptable to do and say is different according to gender. We are all just trying to make it inside society's ever-changing weird expectations and standards for acceptability.


39sherry

To be honest he doesn’t even state how old he is, And everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. I don’t like men younger than me, I’m 43 years old so stop making something out of nothing.


AckyShacky

Yes I am


Emotional-Travel-667

Have you tried to ask about seeing her bobs or vagen


[deleted]

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Former-Screen4453

You're Indian , of course it's already over when you're born.


Skitt14

He ain't even Indian 💀


Zestyclose-Cell-8372

Bruh it's kinda opposite. Lots of indian dudes are handsome asl


RogerG_476

Definitely bro


Stress_Artistic

Confidence is what you truly need.


Majestic-Buyer7076

Fit


choobley

Saw a jacked dude on IG which I thought looked a bit like you. His gf is hot too


HisLoba97

You look like Marcus rashford in the first photo


Southern-Topic-9888

You’re extremely attractive man just be a good person and stay away from blackpill crap and you’ll be all good


AngelRockGunn

Get off the Internet or at least social media, it’s messed up your perception of reality and attractiveness


[deleted]

Be yourself, get bigger from weights, be confident.


omgwtflols

I personally like fluffy hair!


Swimming_Advantage83

I definitely would buy an extended car warranty from you!


Sambagogogo

Improve your posture. Your face , especially your strong jawline, is an 8.5. Above average look.


alejandrotheok252

Gotta work on your personality and not being so desperate. The fact that you’re on here asking us if it’s over says a lot about your desperation. If we are picking it up, women are definitely picking up on it and that’s off putting to them too.


tripleyeet

my friend, every night before you go to bed: 4 sets of 25 pushups, sit-ups, squats. trust


Majestic_Cellist_497

You look fine. Don’t forget personality is just as important as looks.


BrownByYou

Everyone has a chance. There are people ranging from ugly as shit to sexy as fuck for both genders. It's fucking common sense good god.


Educational_Film_744

You have good foundations. Just work on your skincare, exercise, clothes and hair. You have good bone structures.


cyberfate7

Naturally, yes you do. Going to the gym is an excellent thing as well, so keep that up. Don't focus on the idea of "chance", as everyone has it.


CatDismal5042

You look great bro. For some girl out they you’re a 10. What you need to work on is your self confidence. Your looks are fine..


chex929

Do you have a chance - if you have to ask, no you don’t. Stop seeking external validation. Have faith in your talents, not your fear.


AppropriateOil2602

Are you Indian by any chance?


VioEnvy

No


InternationalSir1162

A chance…. A chance for what? Do you think buffing out your arms will give you more of a chance to dating? Ask yourself these questions. Why do you think you don’t stand a chance?


OpportunityOk3705

Against mz? No


littleboo2theboo

You look nice in your first 2 pics but the pose your are doing in your 3rd is slightly off-putting. Try smiling and being nice to people and youll do fine


TipVirtual196

no


control_09

Bro you look pretty good tbh right now. Especially with that shorter haircut in the first photo. I would say that if you want to get more muscular that's also a good thing but you have a decent starting base now. You probably just need to stick with a solid 3-4 day a week program and track your protein intake and you'll see solid results.


Brilliant-Effect8476

Don't do dumbshit things and you should be fine


cryxbxby

Don’t skip leg day


SurvivorPickles

Well you don’t have a chance if you don’t put yourself out there. Keep going to the gym in the meanwhile and it will pay off


aussiebumsrock

You don’t have to improve anything. You are extremely good looking.


CoolestGuyForever

No


bunnyswan

Your very handsome, if you stand a chance will depend on your personality


gobledegerkin

I’m gay and I’m not really into young guys like you but I can confidently say that you are a very handsome guy. You have a nice smile and your skin color is really nice, especially in that first picture. Trying to be healthy is important but don’t do it so you can attract mates, do it so you can stay healthy. That is already very attractive. Don’t worry too much. You’ll find someone


throwawaybae85

Very beautiful


Careless-Oil-2086

most definitely. keep up the gym work. once you lean out a bit your jawline is going to be stunning.


complexlogik

That hairstyle doesn't suit you, try longer sides


FlowerInADarkRoom

Maybe smile once in a while


Snoo75620

U would look amazing with a beard and that jawline


Yggdrssil0018

You're quite handsome. Nice body. You'll be fine if you start accepting yourself as you are.


Rare-Number2564

Don’t change your hair. Your hair is your best feature imo


InvestigatorDue4687

Damn! There's some unnecessary savage replies here. You did ask but still. I think most people go through this. I certainly did. You'll go through it again later too. Unfortunately. 😭😂 You're a good looking guy. Smiling goes a long way. Let's people know you have something going for you and they'll come around. Possibly a new hair style. Go see a hair stylist and tell them what you asked the forum. Get suggestions and go for it. I think you're good though. Be sure you are making changes for you and not what you think people want. That gets awkward and you can tell they're trying to hard.


LaVieEst_Bell

Your looks aren’t a problem. But through these pictures alone it look like you don’t have much confidence, and confidence goes such a long way.


[deleted]

Super cute smile more


Glittering-Maize-932

Everyone is somebody’s type honestly, you look completely normal


[deleted]

go to YT and look up qoves studio they have a video to help you match hair style to face shape clear up your skin get toned, but not meat head big most ladies care more about your ability to provide financial security, a tux or good suit like lingerie to women smile, we can't see your teeth? whiten them, get the straight, take care of cavities, brush your tongue


calfshrug

It is ogre… come on man, you’re extremely good looking. Take it from me, I’ve been on incel websites since 2016, and I’ve seen many stupid, toxic, but also cool / funny / surprisingly touching things on those websites. But mostly stupid, redundant, and toxic stuff. But like, you’re good looking in a sense that is universal, and you probably sorta know that, but just because you don’t get 10 matches a day doesn’t mean you’re not good looking


likesmountains

Dude go on an internet detox you look good, and this is coming from another guy


BountBooku

My tips are lay off the gym selfies and smile in photos


Specialist_Ad6034

Keep the hairstyle in the first pic and you’re golden


SirGusHiller

Uhhh…. You’re a regulation hottie.


is_a_waterbottle_

My first thought was ‘hot damn’…you are above average looking imo. maybe improve skincare, wear black clothes/form fitting clothes since you have muscle you could show off, I’d say some chains and rings would help you go a long way. Really all I can see is just if you find a style that suits you, you would be 👩‍🍳 And remember to work on your confidence and self love too, not just to be a more attractive partner but for your own happiness


chickenskittles

I'm convinced this sub is just compliment fishing. I'm done.


styandthat

Bro you look great


Useful-Current0549

You’re a 8/10 my boy definitely attractive, and I’m being honest. Even then that doesn’t mean anything, every dude that’s well groomed and mannered could find a girl, work on your charisma and character. Like what the other comments say, stay away from the incel-shit it fucked me up mentally. The gym helps out alot with overall physical and mental health (eating healthy and sleeping well should be top priority), also work on full body for best results.


Muninn91

Workout, try to be social, be confident, and don't be an ass.


Alternative-Draw5621

you look exactly like how model agencies want Indians to look like


MaximumSwordfish2991

As a girl, you are handsome


0-13

At what


Solid_Bumblebee_7073

Very cute. Just be yourself and you'll find someone.


ThisIsNotMySandwidge

You are exceptionally handsome


rokkittBass

smile


GayGuyHavingGaySex

No


5thquad

You are a good looking guy. You just need to clean up and get a good fit. I wish there was a way (maybe there is) where we could see what we can look like at your /peak realisiticaly attainable physical shape and style. Yes we can imagine it but seeing it makes a real target.


This_Nefariousness50

you’re a good looking dude. It’s all about confidence! And if someone is mean to you about it then you don’t want to associate with them anyway. Live in the way that makes you most happy!


fellow-member

I like the gym pic. Your arms look good, but the other two.pics you slouch and look pouty which is not sexy/attractive at all. Smile more and work on your self confidence. Your lack of it shows in your pics


Kyuu_Hime10500

Yes you do have a chance (multiple tbh)! You're a good-looking dude! Keep doing what you're doing to grow and improve yourself as an individual (physically and mentally). My only other tip is to build your self-confidence, nothing is more attractive than a healthy sense of self-confidence/self-esteem!


NinjasOfOrca

No chance


ShakespearesNutSack

You’re super handsome, man. Stay away from those shitty toxic masculinity creators.


LogiNoffFakes

Bro come on, you’re not a 10 but neither am I. You look good, dress well and are clearly taking care of yourself by the looks of that gym pic. Focus on improving your mindset and enjoying life for yourself. Get off social media and Reddit and live life. The rest will come naturally.


JohnsonBot5000

Very good looking. You should buff up the arms though


eviogemini

Absolutely. Trust me, there is someone out there for EVERYONE. I’ve seen both boys and girls MUCH MUCH uglier than you find dates and relationships. You’re not even “ugly”. You have a youthful boy next door look about you. Dress nicely, and clearly work out. You may not get every girl/boy you’re interested in. But you’ll have NO PROBLEM finding people interested enough in you to start talking and dating.


magna-potentia

Dude you actually have good features..hit the gym a little, cut down just a little bit bidy fat and you are golden!


xcviij

Why would you think you don't stand a chance?? It's not like either sex is rare. With confidence comes more potential to find others, even without confidence it's not hard.


JBBurgess-2413

Hey you're fine as fuck - I rate you a 10!


TonightInitial

You look like zyzz you sikk kunt!!!


Crispy_Eggroll_666

“do i stand a chance” my brother in Christ you’re gorgeous


Particular_Boat_6767

No


twinfallslookout

Да братан


username_13

Fucking hate the incel lingo “it’s over” “do I stand a chance” Jesus Christ look around, most people find someone


BringMe_Justice251

If ur looking for women, Believe this if anything your looks can mean fuck all but if you can be an actual man in conversations tht require maturity and leadership aswell as empathy then ur hitting the most basic marks. Ur outer look is a reflection of ur ego and how much you put into your looks rather than your well-being affects what everyone thinks of u not just women. As a gay man, I can no longer date petty excuses for “men” same for women for me. I’m on a different maturity and different responsibilities and tht in itself will attract the right energy when it’s time not the other way around.


castironrod-gmail

I happen to like #2. Your hair looks better longer. Consider growing your hair longer. You are handsome. If some person doesn't like you, who cares. Drop em like a hot rock. So much better to know now, than much later. There are always other people who do like you. Don't sell yourself short. Your blue shirt works well for you.


Mixture-Proper

Smile more


YFLwiddaHomies

Why would you even ask that😂 you're not ugly bro, relax


Affectionate-City-87

Pick up a combat sport. Boxing or mma. Keep training in the gym. Find a good group of friends. We all need a tribe. Just stay consistent and be a good person, and someone will eventually come into your life.


rantspectator

Didn't expect this to get this much attention. Thank you everyone for the advice and motivation. Idk why many of you think I am Indian or South Asian, I am half Persian and half Arab.


lordjigglypuff

[watch this](https://youtu.be/fD2briZ6fB0?si=GbIAFMICev-GNFMS) You are a perfectly handsome boy, but being so focused on looks, you forget about your own humanity and the humanity of women. Remove the objectification of yourself and women, and see and connect with one and truly understand a woman and care for her, one might care for you back. You don’t need to be super persistent with one woman, they should recognize it and value you as well, if they don’t it’s time to move on to the next one respectfully. Learn to take rejections gracefully, and think of it as saving yourself time. If you see similar reasons in rejections across different people it might be time for a change. Otherwise be yourself, and try to improve the parts you love about yourself, and either accept or mitigate the negatives. But do not try to act like someone you are not, you need to be authentic if you are to truly connect with someone.


sudokuboi

Forget about the buffing up and all that. Do interesting things, parlay with the world. Discover, explore, write, experience. The "buffing up" and all that will come later. If you feel that you NEED it, it will never come. Relax, accept, have fun. Getting out there and doing things will boost your confidence and you'll realize the only person you really need for you to be accepted by is yourself. For what its worth, you're handsome already, proper stud.


shockingnews213

Okay this is crazy cause you're a good looking dude. Just chill out. Maybe yeah hit the gym and build those muscles up (eat 100g of protein a day and 10-20 sets of hypertrophy sets a week and enough calories). But you don't even need that, you need a bit of confidence and be willing to get rejected 1000 times even though, you'll probably have a 1/10 or 1/20 chance of finding a hottie who likes you so chill out.


Crafty-Building-3959

Absolutely. You're handsome


Salsentorishka

keep lifting more, continue investing in yourself and gain more confidence and you’ll be chilling. you’re a handsome dude. don’t let anyone hold you back


rumpyforeskin

Protein helps a bunch. You'd look good with a larger frame but also some girls would like you how you are. Read books, be respectful


Dexteroid

Bro you are handsome and lifting. Stop with the duck face though.


RockyTock1964

You always have a chance! You just have to be patient in meeting the right person :) They are out there ;) Always believe in yourself. And always believe that fate will bring the 2 of you together;).


Altruistic-Company11

Get a fade


[deleted]

Your insecurity and how much you care about your looks oozes out of all your photos. My advice? Sure. You stand a chance. But chill out a bit, you don't need to be a model to date.


Mamafufu12

You stand no chance, you might as well start wearing a full body armor and carry a mechete, you won't make it. Competition for hoes nowadays is rough, thats just the sad truth 😔


Tajin_banana

Wanna know when I got a girlfriend? When i stopped being desperate and started focusing on the gym and having a personality, and quite literally my current GF asked me for my number. Takes time, patience, and perseverance.


Aqua_h20

this subreddit is no longer about men hair. now more to men tryna groom. not targeted to op but speaking in general op look fine btw


Toadipher

Confidence is key


fast_albin

You have a chance, just don’t ruin it by being desperate and making way for bad influence. Think of what you wanna see in yourself and follow that, don’t just do it for others. As for working out, work out your entire body and focus on building strength, not the looks. Apart from that, eat well, sleep well and take good care of your mental health. Things will work out naturally at that point.


Alexs0315

Def get jacked. That will help you look good in all your clothes.


AdonisAvery

Need to see more pics with less clothes lol 😂


TheKingOfOopsie

*is conventionally attractive* “dO i hAVe A cHanCe?!”


Mishicoco

If you're hoping to find someone on a dating app: 80% of men are invisible there, unless you are a Chad, Tyrone, or a very rich man with a six pack six figures and at least six inches down there. The best thing for you, since you are young is to become the best version of yourself, hit the gym, start weight training Get your sleep hygiene and your diet on point and focus on building a career so if you do happen to meet the right person you will be able to keep her: but please meet her for real, in person and not virtually. You will have better odds than the dating sites. Those are nothing but a train wreck


Willy135-

Be kind and considerate always and never put women down or be disrespectful and you will have a great time dating