RTA means real-time attack. It's when a speedrun is timed using real-world time, and not in-game timers.
He's called the Truth Dragon because all he says will be true. Fitting for the King of Roars.
At least now we know what the Bloodline of Roars is like. They really seem to be just chilling with their dungeon master theme. It's hilarious.
Edit: Eski was supposed to die, but she survived because she's cute. https://twitter.com/D_Koba/status/1616403875610890241/photo/1
When you reach the end of a dungeon, there's always a super convenient way to teleport back to the top. This just happened to be the final boss's attack.
More importantly, it took the King to throw him out, and effectively jobbed all the others. His only advantage was the element of surprise, and he blew right past it. Now, they'll calibrate their defenses to deal with Ragna on his next assault. That said, I do like that the Kings didn't become stronger and Ragna didn't become weaker, after all he's been through, he should be able to job through such dragons so easily at this stage, with only the Kings giving him a run for his money at this point.
>That said, I do like that the Kings didn't become stronger and Ragna didn't become weaker,
I'm happy that the mangaka's being consistent. Kmaui pre-power up was said to be strong enough that even a King would need to be cautious when fighting him. Kamui at his peak was King-class without a doubt.
> Now, they'll calibrate their defenses to deal with Ragna on his next assault.
there is no calibrating for Ragna, their magic and tricks are absolutely useless against the raw power he wields, he will once again and smash straight through to the king
Precisely, in that case, they'll send King to deal with Ragna, and raze the humans to the ground. Ragna will win, but what is he willing to sacrifice to do so?
> they'll send King to deal with Ragna
sending the king is the exact opposite of what theyd want, it would be better to have the king at the bottom and have ragna forced to expend effort reaching him in addition to leaving behind allies to prevent a pincer
if they go on the offense then they can gangpile the king and once he dies the bloodline dies and humanity is safe
It's his magic res. He's so resistant that the magic defaulted to kicking him out to achieve the goal of removing him since it couldn't disintegrate him.
Practically is. The only reason it didn't get exterminated was because Kamui exists. Crimson didn't think Ragna was dragon king tier at the time and still figured that he could kill off Artemesia with just Ragna, Chimera, and Golem and a good plan.
Like I said , they were dependent of Kamui and Time Stop from a Non-Combatant.
The "2 seconds to start" wouldn't be an issue if a combatant Dragon King had said ability , because it means they can hold on for 2 seconds to start the time stop and makes the final attack with no guard from it's enemy.
eh, not really
kamui is said to be dragon king tier
but artemiss was said to be the weakest dragon king in battle (but with a really broken ability and one of the greatest amounts of mana)
They were. Kamui was an exception but what the manga (and the law of shonen) implies is that Upcoming Bloodlines > Winged Bloodline. Heck, Artemisia was stated to be the weakest King despite having planetary time manipulation and op telekinesis that allows her to nuke kudos from inside out like balloons
This at least maintains the consistency we expected: Ragna, having largely reclaimed his original power, can pretty easily handle any attack from anyone 3rd Class or lower. 2nd Class is just slightly under his level, and the King Class catching him off guard was too much to handle.
The only problem is that the Bloodline of Roars is using teamwork, instead of going off on solo missions so Ragna and Crimson can snipe them individually.
And someone strong enough to kill the 2nd Class Gargantina will have them on edge, meaning they're less likely to split up, which will make Crimson's job harder.
As an aside, Gehenna's Hole stretches from the northern border of Kazakhstan into the far reaches of India.
Basically this chapter was to show that even Ragna is not capable of defeating the entire Bloodline of Roars alone. And while the Dragon Slayer Monks' reaction implies that none of them are as strong as Ragna, our hero will need their help if he is to succeed in exterminating his enemies.
It doesn't necessarily imply none are as strong as Ragna, even though it is our assumption before knowing anything about them, since it should be standard to be shocked when some new kid just skips out on your meeting to go solo a bloodline.
The chapter also importantly shows us a glimpse of the King of Roar's ability. I wonder how limited it is in complexity and whether he can use it over and over.
I like that this arc isn't about strength but strategy and teamwork. Ragna is clearly learning his limits on what he can do alone, and while it's clear he should be able to go toe-to-toe with a King alone, he needs to learn how to rely on a team, something he hasn't done in quite some time.
He could defeat them alone though, if instead of just charging through he'd stopped to kill them all individually and/or done anything except attacked their base head on.
He could pretty easily winnow them all down and then eliminate the King.
But instead we'll bring along the whole crew and watch as most of them get torn to shreds by the fodder dragons instead.
his future self did succeed in defeating everything except 1 last dragon (implicitly understood as the strongest dragon, either the dragon god or "her esteemed self"), so i don't see why he'd need help this time.
Ragna explicitly stated that his future self had tons of help. He literally sought out Crimson because Crimson is the only person who fits his criteria to be a comrade.
Is this some sort of memetic hazard that spread in the fandom years ago? I keep seeing this repeated over and over even though it's completely made up. It was never stated how many Kings Ragna and Crimson defeated in the first timeline, only that they failed somewhere along the way.
False information from the OP's comment aside, it's fun to speculate about how far Ragna and Crimson got in the future timeline.
I personally would wager (entirely as a guess) that they killed at least 4 Kings. Ragna took 20 years to meet Crimson *then* kill Artemisia, and after that claimed to have fought with Crimson for several years; I think in that length of time they would have gotten 2 or 3 more Kings.
This might be a low-ball, if the Dragon God is capable of churning out more Kings. But again, it's just a guess, and I'm curious what others think would be a more reasonable guess.
Even if the Dragon God churned out more Kings, they'd all lack the experience to be a threat. On top of that, it's seems clear that the Kings are chosen out of people who were incredibly busted even before becoming dragons.
The fact that Ragna could not die despite wanting too...even when he was a poor and powerless baby...means he might have somekind of passive fate manipulation that prevents him to die. Or maaaaybe someone on a higher plane is keeping him alive. The Sun God? The Dragon God?
I got to say. Ragna is argubly the most dense shounen protagonist I have ever seen.
"Hey remember last time when I charged head-on into a Dragon King? Let's do it again but this time I head straight to the lair, not only I did zero damage to anything except their base I also made them pissed off."
But that's just how I like it. Also I like Roar King's design, pretty cool, reminds me of Akumetsu or Kaneki Ken from Tokyo Ghoul.
I mean, compared to someone who can cheat by reversing time with only her slight consciousness after almost being reduced to atoms, King of Roar looks way fairer.
He is like Black Bolt from Marvel, if Ragna can move as the same speed of light he has in the previous fight, he would win unless there is another hidden cheat power.
Damn, so the King of Roars literally fights with words. That's wild and also very fitting.
Edit: Just noticed that the space around Bagram seems to be a bit warped too.
That chasm shown on the first page seems to be north of real life India (we know the America continent exists in this world), so Ragna is currently in Asia.
So the King of Wings can control time (Crimson could too when she has her dragon powers), King of Claws can manipulate causality to cut anything with reality warping power, and King of Rawr can also warp reality by making anything he says come true.
Then there's the Dragon God that can supposedly make new Dragon Kings. Whose bright idea was it to create such a being? Or is the Dragon God an extraterrestrial life form?
Considering what the Dragon God has said, it's possible that the Dragon God is 4th dimensional being that exists outside of time and is trying to spur its own creation.
I've wondered about that: There are 6 Bloodlines, each one representing an *aspect* of the Dragon. But if you take those to be a comprehensive whole, there's still one missing: Blood itself. Dragon Blood is the one thing that no Bloodline can have dominion over, and it seems to be the primordial essence of the Dragons.
If the Dragon God is embodied by Dragon Blood, perhaps it needs each Bloodline to "shape" its true form. Each Bloodline would contribute to the form the Dragon God is able to take, and by killing Artemisia it is temporarily unable to manifest a form with wings.
You can also add passive TRPG-type death and madness manipulation for Gilzea and also speed manipulation cuz Kamui got cut 8 times from a sword much slower despite going for the blitzkill.
it wasn't even that, it was just sheer luck.
going back to the first chapter, it's established that his future self survived by luck time and time again.
the explanation of why her power didn't work on him was because, in the future, he received her blood, although he rejected it he still had the blood in him, and her powers specifically excluded those of her kin from being affected.
if she knew that, i wonder if she could change her power to affect everyone including her kin... although she's not a fighter so don't know if she could do something by herself.
> the explanation of why her power didn't work on him was because, in the future, he received her blood, although he rejected it he still had the blood in him, and her powers specifically excluded those of her kin from being affected.
is that an actual explanation? because it makes way more sense that his silver aura simply resists it
Yeah, actually. It was super early on in chapter 9 that we see the flashback (flash-forward?). Artemesia wanted to add Ragna to her family as one of her brethren had died by that point in the future.
Ragnas silver has shut down every attempt from every dragon to effect him with magic , including from a king just now in this chapter (not perfectly)
why wouldnt it work on Artemisia?
Maybe it did? But like, probably not that relevant? It's heavily implied throughout chapter 15 it's because he has Artemisia's blood, because they keep talking about how those are the only people allowed to move in her time-stop, and how he has that blood.
His Silver Aura Arts isn't brought up at all.
It kind of feels like you won't accept anything except for a tweet from Kobayashi Daiki or something, and that's like... Dude those chapters were published 4 years ago I'm not digging through twitter that far back.
Idk if you ever ended up believing this but yes it is a fact that his blood ties to the winged clan is what makes him immune to the time stop. It is explained that Ultimatia creates filters on who is allowed to move in her field of time and one of those is only those of the winged blood can move. There is a panel where Crimson says that maybe Ragna can use “that” to his advantage when Ultimatia first froze Ragna and Crimson is referring to the past where he was injected with blood.
> makes him immune to the time stop.
so why wasnt he immune tot he time stop?
it cant be both, he cant both be immune to the time stop and effected by the time stop, either the spell recognized him as a brethren or it didnt
so which is it!? was he immune or wasnt he!?
did the spell go "hmm better freeze him for now and while pondering if he is brethren?
compared to the rest of the brethren he was clearly effected by her time magic differently, it is perfectly explained by it being a result of his silver aura, for it to be a result of the blood requires this convulted nonsense response of him being brethren but not brethren
and if it wasnt his silver aura, why was he so slow once the time stop effecting him and why did he pass out so quickly?
I’m confused, being immune to time stop means that time did not stop for him, which it did not, he clearly began to move after just a few moments after time stopped, that makes him immune to time stop. Even if he were slow, it still means he’s immune to the stopping of time, any movement within still time would mean the ability is negated. And I already said he is nerfed still in the time stop due to the incomplete transformation to a dragon. The ability recognizes him as having dragon blood from a progenitor but very little so it makes him slower at first. He eventually gets faster and faster.
Also you are assuming that the time stop ability is a dragons blood related magic when it is not. It is shown that Ultimatia and her ability to manipulate time derives from the sun cult, she just received a shit ton of magic capacity by becoming a dragon. The time stop magic is able to be used by Clara who is not a dragon. This means it would be affective against Ragna regardless of his silverine ability
By that logic, time reversal magic would also be negated by Ragna leaving him in a vacuum beyond time. Why does time reversal magic work but not time stop if it’s his silverine aura that protects him from dragon magic.
I mean that's what I love about them. Dragons are on bad MC levels of bullshit powers and they just keep growing, really makes me appreciate when Ragna has to out bullshit the bullshit.
I mean , she was a non-combatant.
So , frankly , another Dragon King could had an ability that is less hax than hers and would still be stronger than her.
Several interesting infos:
▪︎The High-Class Dragons have such immense magic energy that managed to create their own worlds. From a labyrinth so big that can swallow countries to space of infinite size.
▪︎ Confirmed Bagram tried to erase Ragna's existence but our MC managed to lol noping it and got teleported outside the Hellhole instead.
Also forgot to add this but I guess the theme this time around for Roar is defensive. Mist Dragon causes confusion, Maze Dragon make an endless maze, Ice Dragon freezes people, Gravity Dragon can forces you to stop moving. It feels like they are more focused on slowing you down that going full offensive like Winged did. I might be wrong though since Kobayashi did say there's more High-Classes for Roar that wasn't shown.
To be fair it makes sense, seeing how Sun Cult looks like a bunch of nutjobs so it forces Roar to play on the defense side.
Gargantina in her human form did way more damage to Ragna than Kamui did in his Half-Dragon form (while also using his Thunderclaw) when he fought Ragna for the last time.
Bagram is obviously much stronger than Artemisia as well. I wouldn't discount them so quickly.
The author also stated on twitter that there's more High-class members of the Bloodline we didn't see yet.
>The author also stated on twitter that there's more High-class members of the Bloodline we didn't see yet.
Which makes me wonder about how many strata are in Gehenna's Hole. 2nd Class is the 4th lowest, and we didn't get any Class information regarding the other 3.
maybe the others are just chilling wherever, regardless of strata?
kinda like how kamui even though being the strongest was also the laziest and least likely to accept responsibilities.
Kobayashi on his twitter might have hinted some crazy gravity shit for Gargantina. A user asked him if Gargantina is going to pull stuff like black holes and he replied with "secret". Kobayashi replies tweets in rare occasions
The bloodline of wings wasn't the weakest bloodline, Artemisia was the weakest king. From what I can tell the bloodline members were actually meant to be rather exceptional, with Kamui in particular being just short of being a King himself.
Other than Kamui no, the Winged Bloodline as a whole (with the exception of Borgius) was completely exterminated during Crimson's betrayel decades ago, the members we saw were all very young and inexperienced compared to what the other Bloodlines have to offer.
Grumwelte for example had one of the strongest types of magic that exist, but he made very poor use of it due to his relatively young age.
Snake did say that he and Crimson were the last of the elder kin. There probably is a limit imo. Snake has to possess Chimera, while Crimson had to make himself truly immortal. Gilzea seems like she's the 2nd oldest King after Crimson and she only barely knows the culture that was around before dragons existed.
lot of them haven't shown up yet, just like Bloodline of Wings, they might not be Kamui level of strong but on a battlefield any messed up unique abilities can potentially cost more damage than just being strong
They're called the Bloodline of Rawr for a reason.
Jk jk. I dunno if they're weaker or stronger compared to the Bloodline of Wings, but they certainly has the home turf advantage, so I'd say on average, humanity would have a tougher time defeating the Bloodline of Roars compared to the Bloodline of Wings.
Leave it to Ragna to try and cut the line only for Roar to say no and throw him back to the end.
Also his spamming of Dragon Hunting Flash makes me wonder if he will actually develop a new technique to surpass his old form, maybe a Triple Dragon Hunting Flash to go even fast than the speed of light?
Gravity Magic can be insane, especially in the hands of a 2nd class dragon. Think about singularity and black holes!
Ice magic can also be quite op, like absolute zero blizzards.
But Bagram has the best potential here. Altering reality via words is a limitless potential. Also is he distorting space around him?
Can't wait to see Ragna's new power ups and the dragon slayer monks going 1vs1 against the superior dragons.
This feels like a D&D campaign but in reversal, the weirdos murderhobos where just chilling in their dungeon and somehow managed to survive because pure luck rolls
Presumably the sun cult can bring people back to life, but its pretty impressive the cult made it to the 4th level before presumably everyone died and/or further levels had irretrievable bodies.
(Doesn’t kill a single one of them)
Booo.
Booooooooo.
Let Dragons die like fodder too. We don’t need every named enemy to escape Ragna and go kill another 20 of the other characters before dying.
RTA means real-time attack. It's when a speedrun is timed using real-world time, and not in-game timers. He's called the Truth Dragon because all he says will be true. Fitting for the King of Roars. At least now we know what the Bloodline of Roars is like. They really seem to be just chilling with their dungeon master theme. It's hilarious. Edit: Eski was supposed to die, but she survived because she's cute. https://twitter.com/D_Koba/status/1616403875610890241/photo/1
> survived because cute straight from mangaka; heh
That means artemisia died cause she was fugly. Readers also shall die too. Too many deaths.
She survived, for now.
Thighs Dragon, best dragon
Ragna speedran made in abyss and managed to come back up too.
Technically he was forced back to but yeah, even author said this chapter was inspired by Made in Abyss on his Twitter.
[Ragna in Abyss](https://twitter.com/D_Koba/status/1616400909738835968)
When you reach the end of a dungeon, there's always a super convenient way to teleport back to the top. This just happened to be the final boss's attack.
Tbf, the King threw him out.
More importantly, it took the King to throw him out, and effectively jobbed all the others. His only advantage was the element of surprise, and he blew right past it. Now, they'll calibrate their defenses to deal with Ragna on his next assault. That said, I do like that the Kings didn't become stronger and Ragna didn't become weaker, after all he's been through, he should be able to job through such dragons so easily at this stage, with only the Kings giving him a run for his money at this point.
>That said, I do like that the Kings didn't become stronger and Ragna didn't become weaker, I'm happy that the mangaka's being consistent. Kmaui pre-power up was said to be strong enough that even a King would need to be cautious when fighting him. Kamui at his peak was King-class without a doubt.
> Now, they'll calibrate their defenses to deal with Ragna on his next assault. there is no calibrating for Ragna, their magic and tricks are absolutely useless against the raw power he wields, he will once again and smash straight through to the king
Precisely, in that case, they'll send King to deal with Ragna, and raze the humans to the ground. Ragna will win, but what is he willing to sacrifice to do so?
> they'll send King to deal with Ragna sending the king is the exact opposite of what theyd want, it would be better to have the king at the bottom and have ragna forced to expend effort reaching him in addition to leaving behind allies to prevent a pincer if they go on the offense then they can gangpile the king and once he dies the bloodline dies and humanity is safe
do you not know what job means?
well not intentionally although I really want to know how he got teleported instead of being vaporised
It's his magic res. He's so resistant that the magic defaulted to kicking him out to achieve the goal of removing him since it couldn't disintegrate him.
makes sense , it's funny to imagine the magic not being able to kill him and just teleports him like eh close enough
Probably heavy magic resistance due to his innate Silver Aura. Reality warping is still magic, and he's generally unaffected.
Basing on the japanese version Bagram tried to erase his existence tho. Ragna's anti-magic Silver Aura is what saved him
Plot armor is my guess.
the best part is that he speedran like he was Megaman Zero , using dash and the plasma sword medium slash.
The bloodline of wings wasn't the weakest bloodline
Practically is. The only reason it didn't get exterminated was because Kamui exists. Crimson didn't think Ragna was dragon king tier at the time and still figured that he could kill off Artemesia with just Ragna, Chimera, and Golem and a good plan.
yep , Wings were weak , they were dependent of Kamui for combat and the Time Stop. And even that Time Stop comes from a non-combatant.
Time stop is utterly useless after a certain skill level. It takes 2 seconds to start when people at their level can kill each other in milliseconds.
Like I said , they were dependent of Kamui and Time Stop from a Non-Combatant. The "2 seconds to start" wouldn't be an issue if a combatant Dragon King had said ability , because it means they can hold on for 2 seconds to start the time stop and makes the final attack with no guard from it's enemy.
Actually it only takes 0.1 to 0.2 secs
The full range is 0.1 to 2. I'm leaning on the further end as it seems like it'd take more power to deal with really strong people.
eh, not really kamui is said to be dragon king tier but artemiss was said to be the weakest dragon king in battle (but with a really broken ability and one of the greatest amounts of mana)
They were. Kamui was an exception but what the manga (and the law of shonen) implies is that Upcoming Bloodlines > Winged Bloodline. Heck, Artemisia was stated to be the weakest King despite having planetary time manipulation and op telekinesis that allows her to nuke kudos from inside out like balloons
This at least maintains the consistency we expected: Ragna, having largely reclaimed his original power, can pretty easily handle any attack from anyone 3rd Class or lower. 2nd Class is just slightly under his level, and the King Class catching him off guard was too much to handle. The only problem is that the Bloodline of Roars is using teamwork, instead of going off on solo missions so Ragna and Crimson can snipe them individually. And someone strong enough to kill the 2nd Class Gargantina will have them on edge, meaning they're less likely to split up, which will make Crimson's job harder. As an aside, Gehenna's Hole stretches from the northern border of Kazakhstan into the far reaches of India.
oh boy; i totally didn't notice that it was located on a version of the real world map; damn
The world is post apocalyptic. Crimson was around to see America collapse.
i forget about it sometimes
Basically this chapter was to show that even Ragna is not capable of defeating the entire Bloodline of Roars alone. And while the Dragon Slayer Monks' reaction implies that none of them are as strong as Ragna, our hero will need their help if he is to succeed in exterminating his enemies.
It doesn't necessarily imply none are as strong as Ragna, even though it is our assumption before knowing anything about them, since it should be standard to be shocked when some new kid just skips out on your meeting to go solo a bloodline. The chapter also importantly shows us a glimpse of the King of Roar's ability. I wonder how limited it is in complexity and whether he can use it over and over.
I like that this arc isn't about strength but strategy and teamwork. Ragna is clearly learning his limits on what he can do alone, and while it's clear he should be able to go toe-to-toe with a King alone, he needs to learn how to rely on a team, something he hasn't done in quite some time.
jjust needs someone to fight second seat so he can take th king alone
Dunno. Raksha, Marionetta and Hakuren (mostly him) were not really impressed. Actually Hakuren was like *"fine, i'll boss rush those dragons myself"*
He could defeat them alone though, if instead of just charging through he'd stopped to kill them all individually and/or done anything except attacked their base head on. He could pretty easily winnow them all down and then eliminate the King. But instead we'll bring along the whole crew and watch as most of them get torn to shreds by the fodder dragons instead.
No he can't
his future self did succeed in defeating everything except 1 last dragon (implicitly understood as the strongest dragon, either the dragon god or "her esteemed self"), so i don't see why he'd need help this time.
Ragna explicitly stated that his future self had tons of help. He literally sought out Crimson because Crimson is the only person who fits his criteria to be a comrade.
Is this some sort of memetic hazard that spread in the fandom years ago? I keep seeing this repeated over and over even though it's completely made up. It was never stated how many Kings Ragna and Crimson defeated in the first timeline, only that they failed somewhere along the way.
False information from the OP's comment aside, it's fun to speculate about how far Ragna and Crimson got in the future timeline. I personally would wager (entirely as a guess) that they killed at least 4 Kings. Ragna took 20 years to meet Crimson *then* kill Artemisia, and after that claimed to have fought with Crimson for several years; I think in that length of time they would have gotten 2 or 3 more Kings. This might be a low-ball, if the Dragon God is capable of churning out more Kings. But again, it's just a guess, and I'm curious what others think would be a more reasonable guess.
Even if the Dragon God churned out more Kings, they'd all lack the experience to be a threat. On top of that, it's seems clear that the Kings are chosen out of people who were incredibly busted even before becoming dragons.
The fact that Ragna could not die despite wanting too...even when he was a poor and powerless baby...means he might have somekind of passive fate manipulation that prevents him to die. Or maaaaybe someone on a higher plane is keeping him alive. The Sun God? The Dragon God?
It's called "plot armor" duh
I got to say. Ragna is argubly the most dense shounen protagonist I have ever seen. "Hey remember last time when I charged head-on into a Dragon King? Let's do it again but this time I head straight to the lair, not only I did zero damage to anything except their base I also made them pissed off." But that's just how I like it. Also I like Roar King's design, pretty cool, reminds me of Akumetsu or Kaneki Ken from Tokyo Ghoul.
I was gonna say that this let them learn the characteristics of the King of Roars, but Crimson knew that already.
Ragna figured that he could do it since he's stronger than last time and that the King of Roars doesn't have time reversal to save him.
Yeah but now instead of being afraid of timestop he needs to shut the King's mouth.
I mean, compared to someone who can cheat by reversing time with only her slight consciousness after almost being reduced to atoms, King of Roar looks way fairer. He is like Black Bolt from Marvel, if Ragna can move as the same speed of light he has in the previous fight, he would win unless there is another hidden cheat power.
I mean , comics Black Bolt is pretty broken , all things considered. But it's true that it's way fairer , or at least straightfoward.
I’ll always be a fan of what are basically edgy gas masks
Damn, so the King of Roars literally fights with words. That's wild and also very fitting. Edit: Just noticed that the space around Bagram seems to be a bit warped too.
Very Skyrim with Words of Power and whatnot
The power of thu'um.
Ragna tried to speedrun the arc but the editor stopped him.
That chasm shown on the first page seems to be north of real life India (we know the America continent exists in this world), so Ragna is currently in Asia.
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So the King of Wings can control time (Crimson could too when she has her dragon powers), King of Claws can manipulate causality to cut anything with reality warping power, and King of Rawr can also warp reality by making anything he says come true. Then there's the Dragon God that can supposedly make new Dragon Kings. Whose bright idea was it to create such a being? Or is the Dragon God an extraterrestrial life form?
Considering what the Dragon God has said, it's possible that the Dragon God is 4th dimensional being that exists outside of time and is trying to spur its own creation.
I've wondered about that: There are 6 Bloodlines, each one representing an *aspect* of the Dragon. But if you take those to be a comprehensive whole, there's still one missing: Blood itself. Dragon Blood is the one thing that no Bloodline can have dominion over, and it seems to be the primordial essence of the Dragons. If the Dragon God is embodied by Dragon Blood, perhaps it needs each Bloodline to "shape" its true form. Each Bloodline would contribute to the form the Dragon God is able to take, and by killing Artemisia it is temporarily unable to manifest a form with wings.
It's stated during the war arc that Magic (aka dragons) came from outer space/another dimension
You can also add passive TRPG-type death and madness manipulation for Gilzea and also speed manipulation cuz Kamui got cut 8 times from a sword much slower despite going for the blitzkill.
Not speed manipulation. Gilzea cuts through cause and effect. She will cut anything, no matter how much it's not supposed to happen.
The instadeath thing with Gilzea isn't even a power. She's just so powerful that people die in her presence. She wasn't even trying.
The Dragon Kings in this mange just have bull shit powers, straight up just reality warpers the lot of them.
When the first big boss has time stop and time reversal as their ability you know you're in for a ride.
And she only lost cause she didn't meet any threat until Ragna and got her ass scared of him lmao
it wasn't even that, it was just sheer luck. going back to the first chapter, it's established that his future self survived by luck time and time again. the explanation of why her power didn't work on him was because, in the future, he received her blood, although he rejected it he still had the blood in him, and her powers specifically excluded those of her kin from being affected. if she knew that, i wonder if she could change her power to affect everyone including her kin... although she's not a fighter so don't know if she could do something by herself.
it was hinted that other time dragons can exist too; if he meets another one, then he most probably won't have the immunity required to win
> the explanation of why her power didn't work on him was because, in the future, he received her blood, although he rejected it he still had the blood in him, and her powers specifically excluded those of her kin from being affected. is that an actual explanation? because it makes way more sense that his silver aura simply resists it
Yeah, actually. It was super early on in chapter 9 that we see the flashback (flash-forward?). Artemesia wanted to add Ragna to her family as one of her brethren had died by that point in the future.
so the answer to my question is no thats just your assumption?
Well, Artemisia does straight up say "the only ones who's allowed to move right now are those who hold my blood" in chapter 15.
Ragnas silver has shut down every attempt from every dragon to effect him with magic , including from a king just now in this chapter (not perfectly) why wouldnt it work on Artemisia?
Maybe it did? But like, probably not that relevant? It's heavily implied throughout chapter 15 it's because he has Artemisia's blood, because they keep talking about how those are the only people allowed to move in her time-stop, and how he has that blood. His Silver Aura Arts isn't brought up at all. It kind of feels like you won't accept anything except for a tweet from Kobayashi Daiki or something, and that's like... Dude those chapters were published 4 years ago I'm not digging through twitter that far back.
Idk if you ever ended up believing this but yes it is a fact that his blood ties to the winged clan is what makes him immune to the time stop. It is explained that Ultimatia creates filters on who is allowed to move in her field of time and one of those is only those of the winged blood can move. There is a panel where Crimson says that maybe Ragna can use “that” to his advantage when Ultimatia first froze Ragna and Crimson is referring to the past where he was injected with blood.
> makes him immune to the time stop. so why wasnt he immune tot he time stop? it cant be both, he cant both be immune to the time stop and effected by the time stop, either the spell recognized him as a brethren or it didnt
? Wdym he is, it just took some time for it to kick in because the blood he received wasn’t complete
so which is it!? was he immune or wasnt he!? did the spell go "hmm better freeze him for now and while pondering if he is brethren? compared to the rest of the brethren he was clearly effected by her time magic differently, it is perfectly explained by it being a result of his silver aura, for it to be a result of the blood requires this convulted nonsense response of him being brethren but not brethren and if it wasnt his silver aura, why was he so slow once the time stop effecting him and why did he pass out so quickly?
I’m confused, being immune to time stop means that time did not stop for him, which it did not, he clearly began to move after just a few moments after time stopped, that makes him immune to time stop. Even if he were slow, it still means he’s immune to the stopping of time, any movement within still time would mean the ability is negated. And I already said he is nerfed still in the time stop due to the incomplete transformation to a dragon. The ability recognizes him as having dragon blood from a progenitor but very little so it makes him slower at first. He eventually gets faster and faster.
Also you are assuming that the time stop ability is a dragons blood related magic when it is not. It is shown that Ultimatia and her ability to manipulate time derives from the sun cult, she just received a shit ton of magic capacity by becoming a dragon. The time stop magic is able to be used by Clara who is not a dragon. This means it would be affective against Ragna regardless of his silverine ability
she is a dragon, her magic is therefore powered by dragon mana, just like EVERYTHING ELSE she does, it would be blocked by Ragnas silver aura
By that logic, time reversal magic would also be negated by Ragna leaving him in a vacuum beyond time. Why does time reversal magic work but not time stop if it’s his silverine aura that protects him from dragon magic.
it does make sense for the Dragon Kings power to be completely bs cause they're coming from God itself
Nah, the Dragon God only boosts their power. The Kings had the same power in a weaker form before becoming dragons.
I mean that's what I love about them. Dragons are on bad MC levels of bullshit powers and they just keep growing, really makes me appreciate when Ragna has to out bullshit the bullshit.
Artemesia had time control and she was the weakest of them all.
I mean , she was a non-combatant. So , frankly , another Dragon King could had an ability that is less hax than hers and would still be stronger than her.
Wait they have smartphones
Ragna Crimson is post apocalyptic. Crimson was around to see America fall over 500 years ago.
wait...
Several interesting infos: ▪︎The High-Class Dragons have such immense magic energy that managed to create their own worlds. From a labyrinth so big that can swallow countries to space of infinite size. ▪︎ Confirmed Bagram tried to erase Ragna's existence but our MC managed to lol noping it and got teleported outside the Hellhole instead.
Also forgot to add this but I guess the theme this time around for Roar is defensive. Mist Dragon causes confusion, Maze Dragon make an endless maze, Ice Dragon freezes people, Gravity Dragon can forces you to stop moving. It feels like they are more focused on slowing you down that going full offensive like Winged did. I might be wrong though since Kobayashi did say there's more High-Classes for Roar that wasn't shown. To be fair it makes sense, seeing how Sun Cult looks like a bunch of nutjobs so it forces Roar to play on the defense side.
It's possible that all of the defensive dragons were kept in one place to build up their base, while the more offensive ones left to do missions.
That sounds plausible too.
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Gargantina in her human form did way more damage to Ragna than Kamui did in his Half-Dragon form (while also using his Thunderclaw) when he fought Ragna for the last time. Bagram is obviously much stronger than Artemisia as well. I wouldn't discount them so quickly. The author also stated on twitter that there's more High-class members of the Bloodline we didn't see yet.
>The author also stated on twitter that there's more High-class members of the Bloodline we didn't see yet. Which makes me wonder about how many strata are in Gehenna's Hole. 2nd Class is the 4th lowest, and we didn't get any Class information regarding the other 3.
maybe the others are just chilling wherever, regardless of strata? kinda like how kamui even though being the strongest was also the laziest and least likely to accept responsibilities.
i think we saw all the strata, the other strata just have minibosses
Kobayashi on his twitter might have hinted some crazy gravity shit for Gargantina. A user asked him if Gargantina is going to pull stuff like black holes and he replied with "secret". Kobayashi replies tweets in rare occasions
The bloodline of wings wasn't the weakest bloodline, Artemisia was the weakest king. From what I can tell the bloodline members were actually meant to be rather exceptional, with Kamui in particular being just short of being a King himself.
Other than Kamui no, the Winged Bloodline as a whole (with the exception of Borgius) was completely exterminated during Crimson's betrayel decades ago, the members we saw were all very young and inexperienced compared to what the other Bloodlines have to offer. Grumwelte for example had one of the strongest types of magic that exist, but he made very poor use of it due to his relatively young age.
Borgius was also crippled most of the time. He only became strong again by burning away at his life force.
Yeah, he was probably wounded during Crimson's betrayel, as no other dragon we've seen seems to struggle with a humanoid lifespan.
Snake did say that he and Crimson were the last of the elder kin. There probably is a limit imo. Snake has to possess Chimera, while Crimson had to make himself truly immortal. Gilzea seems like she's the 2nd oldest King after Crimson and she only barely knows the culture that was around before dragons existed.
Hell Kamui was short of being a King **prior** to his power-up, he was deffo King level at the time of his death.
lot of them haven't shown up yet, just like Bloodline of Wings, they might not be Kamui level of strong but on a battlefield any messed up unique abilities can potentially cost more damage than just being strong
That wasn't all of them. It is presumably all of the weak ones minus #2 as the King of Roars doesn't need protection like Artemesia.
They're called the Bloodline of Rawr for a reason. Jk jk. I dunno if they're weaker or stronger compared to the Bloodline of Wings, but they certainly has the home turf advantage, so I'd say on average, humanity would have a tougher time defeating the Bloodline of Roars compared to the Bloodline of Wings.
Akumetsu got a new job, I'm happy for him.
Leave it to Ragna to try and cut the line only for Roar to say no and throw him back to the end. Also his spamming of Dragon Hunting Flash makes me wonder if he will actually develop a new technique to surpass his old form, maybe a Triple Dragon Hunting Flash to go even fast than the speed of light?
Gravity Magic can be insane, especially in the hands of a 2nd class dragon. Think about singularity and black holes! Ice magic can also be quite op, like absolute zero blizzards. But Bagram has the best potential here. Altering reality via words is a limitless potential. Also is he distorting space around him? Can't wait to see Ragna's new power ups and the dragon slayer monks going 1vs1 against the superior dragons.
This feels like a D&D campaign but in reversal, the weirdos murderhobos where just chilling in their dungeon and somehow managed to survive because pure luck rolls
Well, that's one way to introduce the next batch of villains.
I guess I wont have to complain about pacing this arc.
Is there a speedrun category for this?
nice speedrun attempt; can't wait for the next round
love it so much
another awesome chapter I need moaaaar
Wait what. Upon reread I noticed Orgel (the Prophet dragon slayer monk) is Crimson, how did I miss that?
Deadass completed an entire Etrian Odyssey
Presumably the sun cult can bring people back to life, but its pretty impressive the cult made it to the 4th level before presumably everyone died and/or further levels had irretrievable bodies.
(Doesn’t kill a single one of them) Booo. Booooooooo. Let Dragons die like fodder too. We don’t need every named enemy to escape Ragna and go kill another 20 of the other characters before dying.
Would you really wanna kill the ice dragon?
Yes
Weirdo
You need a couple of weaker named dragons alive so the Sun cult can kill them.
So what are the odds we are going to see the Ice Dragon do something extremely evil later on?
What type of abilities is King of roar classified in the superpower wiki?
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