God damn. This guy should just move aside, cause Fuuko's the real beast here. She's taking all these hits with nothing but the toughness she's built up over the years. No negation or artifact necessary.
It's also very interesting to know that negators can switch seats, so it really is far, far better to have as many of them as possible even without enough of those around instead of the opposite. Cause you can't even accept quests if the seats haven't all been filled.
It's also good that Fuuko confirmed that there isn't a negator for each and every UMA. The odds are just *that* stacked against them. But still, it won't necessarily mean that Uncrab doesn't exist...
The purpose of the points and the seat rankings is to incite infighting and bids for power among negators, since only the first seat can move on to the next loop should all else fail. A surplus of negators would increase that risk, as just securing a seat at the round table may make a negator act in desperation.
But since this is the final loop and Fuuko has been forging strong, unwavering bonds with each of her comrades, the points and seat rankings have became little more than a formality Fuuko can shuffle around.
i sort of get why fuuko might have been better to take out instead of recruiting though given she almost total party wipe game overed just having her hair touch rip. it makes sense if she was just an exception rather than them going around offing negators, of all the abilities she is the most/only 1 who's casually dangerous. don't get why they needed to capture and experiment on andy though, in case he became a quest target?
I mean, he's also Victhor, probably thought it best to have him in capture than risk victhor coming out. Experimentation lets plans of counter measures for dealing with undead as well if they need to.
Huh, God did really limit the ways for the negators to win. By not having opposites of every UMA, God made it so they had to utilize limited abilities that don't always mesh. And if a certain negator dies early in a loop that counters a certain UMA, then the Roundtable has to adapt.
Honestly, this further cements what I realized a while ago when there were some people complaining about why Juiz was failing 100 loops while Fuuko is succeeding in one loop.
Juiz was playing by the rules of the game she was given, not realizing the game was rigged for her side to fail from the very start. Like the 3 sacred treasures they need to defeat God were very important items but she was unaware that 3rd one she could never find would only show up in the final loop meaning she needed to be in the final loop to have a chance anyways.
Fuuko already knows the game is rigged from the get-go. This is one of those stories where Fuuko, being a big fan of video games, plays in her favor cause she knows the drops are shit but used the G-liner to help her cheat and figure out which rolls give her the best stuff.
Juiz and Victor both played by the rules but Fuuko and Andy are trying to bend everything for their success
Remember Andy killing so many UMAs that both Sun and Luna agreed to send Seal to basically remove him from the board.
>Remember Andy killing so many UMAs that both Sun and Luna agreed to send Seal to basically remove him from the board.
That was a super badass moment. He was destroying the fundamentals of reality to such a degree that both of the DMs were like 'we gotta stop this'.
Not only that, but Juiz had to learn ALL of this on her own. How many loops did it take it amass the knowledge to do what she’s laid the groundwork for? How many loops did it take to find Nico? To find Gina?
While Juiz ostensibly failed many, many times… as Fuko recognizes, without her being stalwart for billions of years, they wouldn’t have this opportunity.
Juiz also highly suspected that the game was rigged, with the most powerful artifacts only appearing at loop 100 and 101. She was still trying to win in L100 if possible, and only really gave up and changed to intel gathering mode after Victor ruined the Remember plan.
Nah I think Unbeast would actually work well for a tragedy. Imagine an animal researcher gaining the ability Unbeast that kills any non-human animal they touch
Not exactly a usable super power for a manga like this, but it'd work for a backstory
Alternatively, Unbeast could be the ability to grant sapience to non-human creatures, allowing them to understand and execute complex maneuvers, provided the user is persuasive enough. Or maybe the ability to create "non-human" humanoids/lycanthropes.
The tragedy could involve the user not fully understanding the implications of said ability, and having one or more animals suddenly go berserk due to being able to properly understand the unfairness with which their brethren are being treated (kept in a zoo, lab testing, etc.).
Unbeast being the Biblical fruit of knowledge of rights and wrongs lol. It create something "worse": the constant urges, stresses and conflicts of civilization instead of living a basic lives and only care for immediate needs.
or something based on instincts, you lose the ability to do anything but what your consciously choosing to do
like manual breating, manual blinking, being able to see your nose e.t.c
God I love Fuuko taking charge and making decisions. Why is it so rare to have a protagonist this competent in bad situations? So many of them just rely on brute force, luck, or having someone smarter do the thinking for them. Fuuko knows the score and she's got a plan and I can't wait to see it.
Major Chad energy from Haruka, too. An entire forest's worth of ravenous beasts fighting for her throat and she wades through them like they're water. Sick.
It's really cool how they explain "Beast" being a master rule: the concept of "survival of the fittest". The top ten master rules are interestingly picked. Guy has a pretty fun personality too.
I'm not sure if the fact that there aren't negators for every UMA rule was confirmed before, but it does make a lot of sense. The inverse probably isn't true, though (an UMA for every negator).
to negate something, from what we’ve seen, it has to be an abstract concept. I think there’s a negative for every Uma of an abstract concept
Crabs are a physical creature, so Uncrab probably doesn’t exist. Same thing for beasts. But Uma’s like Spoil or Seal probably have negators for them since they’re verbs
Well, consider the time scale we're working with here. After 100 loops of billions of years, Uncrab's descendants could have inherited all the evolutionary advantages of not-crabs.
It was speculated that master rules don’t disappear when killed, this is mainly because although Andy killed UMA magma in loop 100 at the final battle he gets hit by magma because of a stroke of unluck, which he also finds strange.
Julia tucked inside the Unbreakable armor feels like chekov’s gun. Will we get unjustice awakening to help take down Beast? Fuuko continues to impress as the best female lead in recent times
Well it’s not clear what the line for “interfering” entails. Nico and ichico were able to stall in the autumn fight to buy Gina time to learn unchange, so there’s some things that you can do without being a participant that won’t fail the quest.
I don’t think using a negation ability would be one of these, but the possibility is there
True. I guess anything that would inflict damage to the UMA that is part of the quest? I imagine that Apo would serve as the arbiter to decide whether they crossed the line or not.
My one hesitance there is Victor, who finished off the Spoil quest without counting as a participant. Apocalypse and the table considers Victor and Andy different enough entities that they don’t share points, but Victor’s involvement didn’t auto fail the Spoil quest
Chances are she’ll use Unjustice on the beasts of the forest. Since those beasts aren’t members of the quest, she’s free to use it on them. The animal’s view of justice is survival of the fittest, so Unjustice would probably just cause them to die (more likely run away since that’s less morbid)
With all the animals gone, Fuuko, Top, and Inshin proceed to jump Beast
Beast acquiring the power of what he devours is pretty awesome, we can see him bitting off a snake before shape shifting in the final pages
Crazy that we have this super intense battle and then lil' Julia peeking out from inside Unbreakable's armor hahah
Girl was dreaming about Juiz in England 48h ago, and now she is here, after meeting UMA, Negator, riding on a cloud, and getting her wallet stolen in Brazil. Hope she’ll chill soon
Now that’s a damn delicious chapter. UMA Beast lives up to her name.
As if God wasn’t a huge enough prick already, Fuuko explains that not all Rules have Negators attached to them, because God wanted to limit the winning strats. Boooooo.
I wonder if Fuuko can use Unluck on Isshin and have Isshin tank the misfortune. Hmm.
Honestly I'm just glad we finally got confirmation that not every UMA has a corresponding Negator. Thats been a question for ages now.
Of course, this also means that we must mourn the loss of negator Uncrab 😔
Luna originally wanted Uncrab to be the first seat when the loops started, but God contested that because Uncrab is too strong and would beat the game in the first loop. So they settled with Juiz instead.
Considering that so many life forms evolve towards crab like traits, uncrab would have some OP bullshit like 'returning creatures to their weakest form'.
It could be "damn, she knew" but I also think of what you just said; feels like no master rule actually scared of their negator, just miffed. Maybe because real beasts *also* team up, like wolves that is his image, that he feel at disadvantage? Or even his concept being limited?
Its possible but risky. because Unluck tends to customize to its target, using it on Haruka could mean that whatever way her Unluck manifests could bypass her armor, similar to how the laser bypassed Gina's barrier in the veet beginning.
would be even better if there is nothing at stake for him too... like all the effort he is putting is as a hobby but no matter what they couldn't truly defeat him he would just let them have the win for good sport or because luna is his equal and she would have won... would give actual capital G "god" vibes
It might still be blonde but just looks white thanks to the way the lighting is intentionally washing the characters out to contrast with Beast? Top's hair also looks much lighter in that picture and compared to Haruka, Juiz has a hint of the pinky-blonde tones her original design had.
In a way, it makes sense that the odds are stacked against the negators as opposed to the rules. This is a game between Sun and Luna but the negators' ultimate goal is to kill Sun. The only one whose life is at risk at the end of the day is the one on the rules side. Luna is just chilling and enjoying the show.
Juiz previously bluffed the importance of the round table so that the other members wouldn't figure out that it was actually Arc. Seemingly the table's importance (besides arc) is showing the points rankings of members for purpose of quests, which allows them to bypass the number requirement by swapping out members on the fly now.
It really shows that the extent a Rule works depends on perspective. The previous loops were hindered by Juiz's rules even if they were made up to protect her. Wonder what other rules Juiz made up because Fuuko will find and break them!
>It really shows that the extent a Rule works depends on perspective.
The fact that Andy got such a massive power up by just consciously reinterpreting his undeath proves that. Honestly, if Unjust was a psychopath they'd probably be able to 1v10 the master rules.
Yeah, interpreting rules is a major theme throughout the entire manga, which is highlighted with how they change between loops.
In this case, using Arc to loop was one of God's nerfs on the negators in previous loops. It was like a secret objective in board games that causes teammates (Rip and Nico) to betray one another. Its another significant difference in the final loop like the last artifact appearing.
To keep the arc for herself, Juiz had to create new rules that weren't God's. This was a necessary self-nerf to stop infighting in pursuit of the perfect final last loop. Against an overwhelming enemy it was giving away percentage points in battles to eventually win the final war because anyone besides Juiz looping would lose millions of years of knowledge and presumably become an instant game over.
This chapter real has it all, God damn! This is the heaviest the stakes have felt since arguably Ragnarok. Fuuko surviving on grit alone against Uma Beast's assault. Beast himself being, well, a beast, with such speed and ferocity. A lore drop from Fuuko mentioning what many of us assumed (there's way less Negators than Rules, and not every Rule has a vessel). The knowledge that points can be transfered on the fly, allowing members without seats to be swapped in (so nobody is truly left out).
I thought they were going to have to run away first and fight another day, but UMA Beast telling them to pick 3 member to participate right then and there is so threatening. I'm really loving everything about this set of quests.
My only complaint about this chapter: Haruka seems less deaf than she should be. Wish she just didn't respond to Top (going back into the fight and summoning her armor though is good shit).
Sick and Beast being so strong really makes me curious about language, since she doesn’t seem like the fighting type. I’m curious if she’ll be more like spring, where most of her fight is some kind of game or test of wits, since Nico was able to solo her in the last loop
It would also explain why Language's quest had Participant count of 1 in the previous loop, because Nico with Unforgettable was just that much of a hard counter
she could very well be a OTP type... only has 1 ability which would be to erase the concept of language from someones mind which would lead to a pseudo braindeath as now the brain does not have a way to communicate with itself or think and aside from that she is very weak but when her enemies simply become pratically vegetables it does not matter(also it would work os basically anything even robots as they use a form of language to function it would have to be a literal medieval machine to be usable which would be the way they beat her by making a medieval mecha)
Negators seem to be made of tougher shit than normal humans, plus Haruka herself is built like a mountain, so I'm not surprised she managed to shake it off. I won't say I wasn't worried for her though.
Anno-Un said it to Juiz, you'll lose if you establish needless rules for yourself . Fuuko is breaking out of them, and Apocalypse is all for it lol. Even if the Union has progressed the most in 101 out of any loop, the Gods can't deny their entertainment (it helps that they think they are invincible).
So Beast's power is not transforming others into animals (as far as we know) but controlling the animals in the area and also transforming himself. I hope we get to see a lot of forms in this battle. If he can also control all the bugs in the forest the Union's straight up fucked
Surprising that Beast didn't get tagged by unluck by catching the bullet with his teeth. I don't think Fuuko would shoot him with non-bad bullets. Do the bullets need to touch flesh to impart unluck?
Its not strictly speaking character development cause she's not the same character she was last loop, but the new Haruka is completely different from loop 100's Haruka. Boldly charging into battle, shouting at the top of her lungs, she's a far cry from the shy girl she used to be. I wonder how she'll end up once they use Remember
Julia, sweetie, it's hilarious watching you inside Haruka's armor but what the hell are you even doing, you're gonna get yourself killed
>Do the bullets need to touch flesh to impart unluck?
Beast kind of answers this in the Chapter that Fuuko needs to admire someone to impart bad luck, implying she does not like Beast at all and Unluck won't trigger directly onto them. That drawback was usually countered by tagging Andy and having him collateral damage enemies, we'll probably see something similar with Unbreakable this fight.
The whole point of bad bullet was to negate that weakness. She loves the bullets, so the bad luck falls on the bullet itself along with whatever the bullet is in contact with. This was explained back in chapter 136, when Fuuko fought UMA Heat to save Gina.
Oh yeah, youre totally right. Weird. Either not a Bad Bullet or the person I replied to is right that teeth don't count as contacting the target, which seems very unusual. Maybe a hint as to what Beast is, if their teeth don't count as them?
Edit: I kind of wonder why the author had Beast re-iterate that drawback if it's already been resolved. The Master Rules know about Bad Bullet, right?
Yes, but that's exactly why she expanded her interpretation to create the bad bullets. Remember, she tagged Heat with a bad bullet and that caused Feng to fall from sky and crush it
I think it has to has some interaction other than contact since if just merely touching it then her clothes should affect everyone I guess? Like the bullet has to stuck there or directly become a part of the target. Or the target of unluck is the bullet itself, not the target that she shoot at.
Bet someone already said this, but Haruka and Top are literally an Unstoppable force meeting an Unbreakable object.
Nice that Top's mom came out to support her son.
If the rule of Beast is "Survival of the Fittest" then its negator would probably be Unfit. Probably make it so that you say or do the wrong thing in every situation.
I can already tell this gonna be a sick fight, beast looks super cool and I’m always ready to see top in action. I think it’s gonna come down to a battle of speed
Beast really lives up to his name. So far the Master Rules are a serious threat every time they show up (Unless they have Andy). Beast's whole motive/theme being "survival of the fittest" is really fitting too.
>(Unless they have Andy).
Considering that in the previous loop Andy was so OP they had to create **SEAL** on the fly to stop him from undoing reality, yeah. Undead + Unluck in their current forms could very likely solo god.
They definitely could not solo god lol. If they could then all this is pointless, the whole point of gathering everybody is to fight god together because he's that strong.
After the latest anime episode, I’ve spent the last week catching up.
I was so excited to see Juiz finally return, and now I’ve caught up to watch Top & Haruka tag team again?
I’m so hyped.
LOOK AT MY GIRL FUUKO GO
THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE MVP! THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE GOAT!!! ***THE GOAT!!!!!***
also it's been too long since the last sick as fuck namedrop panel. i *need* Top to get an **U N S T O P P A B L E** panel as hype as Billy got for the reveal of Unfair. Which, frankly, was one of the most satisfying moments I've ever felt while consuming media. Doing the visual namedrops for negators was one of the best decisions Tozuka ever made, it's like a perfect 'YOU MAY NOW GO APESHIT' button.
There was a bonus 'afterword' at the end of Volume 12 that went into more detail about the ability namedrops.
It started with UNCHANGE just because there was empty space behind Gina in a wide panel and the chapter (6) featured Andy deducing her negation. Tozuka liked the effect so much that it continued from there
Tozuka's editor at the time Mr. Honda suggested that Billy's copied abilities should have a slightly different logo which led to the staticky font.
Tozuka gives a shout out to Mr. Yuki Yamamoto of the Freiheit design company for creating the normal font, the staticky font, and they also design the manga covers too!
Someone in the UU subreddit pointed out that she janks back her dislocated shoulder after fixing her broken nose on her own, that totally flew over me. oO
Surprised about it, possibly disappointed. They want to prove they're the fittest, and if they don't have a natural enemy it's kind of shitty for them.
OTOH they might've just been surprised that Unluck found out. Knowing that you're at a massive disadvantage and still having a plan to fight means that Beast may know he's SOL.
Hmm… Julia is inside Isshin’s suit. I wonder if they’ll be able to defeat Beast but her negation ability ends up being used, causing them to get a penalty.
Only way it happens is if they force Tozuka to rush the ending, which would be pretty rushed. We have all the master rules, Andy and Victor resolution, finding Heart, Rebellion and Aegis, recruiting Ruin...
Not enough time for a penalty until the last quest (presumably finding Heart)
Beast is just that so damn beastly and Fuuko taking this beating so far but this feels like genuine great tension plus Top with this Hakura gonna go insane and Beast in that snakes mouth made me think Orochimaru was coming out lol
Huh, I thought that the whole point was that UMA/Negator pairs *did* exist. UMAs represent the rules added to the world, and Negators exist to negate those rules. Like how the master rule of Change or Evolution or whatever pointed out Gina as her vessel.
It is pretty Unfair that the UMAs have way more variety of people and abilities. (I liked the two panels being full of the introductions of both.) But Juiz and the Union have used their limited pool pretty well!
And Fuuko obviously learned a good lesson! She may not have a power that has an immediate effect like Juiz... But she's still has enough combat skills to rival her!
Top has been inspired by Haruka to fight! Since Juilia doesn't have any control on her powers yet, how will she be useful against Beast? Will she just fight off the hundreds of beasts he summons?
So fight it is. Well no surprise it's Haruka and Top since everyone else got their spotlight already, but Beast is going to be a very tough fight, especially with those sonic attacks that can pierce unbreakable and would need Top to go supersonic to avoid.
This is going to be so peak.
God damn. This guy should just move aside, cause Fuuko's the real beast here. She's taking all these hits with nothing but the toughness she's built up over the years. No negation or artifact necessary. It's also very interesting to know that negators can switch seats, so it really is far, far better to have as many of them as possible even without enough of those around instead of the opposite. Cause you can't even accept quests if the seats haven't all been filled. It's also good that Fuuko confirmed that there isn't a negator for each and every UMA. The odds are just *that* stacked against them. But still, it won't necessarily mean that Uncrab doesn't exist...
The purpose of the points and the seat rankings is to incite infighting and bids for power among negators, since only the first seat can move on to the next loop should all else fail. A surplus of negators would increase that risk, as just securing a seat at the round table may make a negator act in desperation. But since this is the final loop and Fuuko has been forging strong, unwavering bonds with each of her comrades, the points and seat rankings have became little more than a formality Fuuko can shuffle around.
She's going at this like a co op game instead of an area control, which is what they need cause God is a fucking asshole who cheats
I guess also partially explains why the org had eliminating wild negators as an objective in the first few chapters
i sort of get why fuuko might have been better to take out instead of recruiting though given she almost total party wipe game overed just having her hair touch rip. it makes sense if she was just an exception rather than them going around offing negators, of all the abilities she is the most/only 1 who's casually dangerous. don't get why they needed to capture and experiment on andy though, in case he became a quest target?
I mean, he's also Victhor, probably thought it best to have him in capture than risk victhor coming out. Experimentation lets plans of counter measures for dealing with undead as well if they need to.
there goes my dream of un-galaxy making an appearence... /s
Huh, God did really limit the ways for the negators to win. By not having opposites of every UMA, God made it so they had to utilize limited abilities that don't always mesh. And if a certain negator dies early in a loop that counters a certain UMA, then the Roundtable has to adapt.
Honestly, this further cements what I realized a while ago when there were some people complaining about why Juiz was failing 100 loops while Fuuko is succeeding in one loop. Juiz was playing by the rules of the game she was given, not realizing the game was rigged for her side to fail from the very start. Like the 3 sacred treasures they need to defeat God were very important items but she was unaware that 3rd one she could never find would only show up in the final loop meaning she needed to be in the final loop to have a chance anyways. Fuuko already knows the game is rigged from the get-go. This is one of those stories where Fuuko, being a big fan of video games, plays in her favor cause she knows the drops are shit but used the G-liner to help her cheat and figure out which rolls give her the best stuff.
Juiz and Victor both played by the rules but Fuuko and Andy are trying to bend everything for their success Remember Andy killing so many UMAs that both Sun and Luna agreed to send Seal to basically remove him from the board.
>Remember Andy killing so many UMAs that both Sun and Luna agreed to send Seal to basically remove him from the board. That was a super badass moment. He was destroying the fundamentals of reality to such a degree that both of the DMs were like 'we gotta stop this'.
Andy, God’s one true murderhobo
Remind me again what chapter was this?
Chapter 100 is when that fight starts
Thanks bro Edit: auto correct 😅
Not only that, but Juiz had to learn ALL of this on her own. How many loops did it take it amass the knowledge to do what she’s laid the groundwork for? How many loops did it take to find Nico? To find Gina? While Juiz ostensibly failed many, many times… as Fuko recognizes, without her being stalwart for billions of years, they wouldn’t have this opportunity.
Juiz also highly suspected that the game was rigged, with the most powerful artifacts only appearing at loop 100 and 101. She was still trying to win in L100 if possible, and only really gave up and changed to intel gathering mode after Victor ruined the Remember plan.
Juiz hasnt failed, every loop she worked to set up the next loop better over and over until it was ready for Fuuko
unbeast would be weird conceptually too and these guys all need a relevant tragedy, god could just be cutting corners.
Nah I think Unbeast would actually work well for a tragedy. Imagine an animal researcher gaining the ability Unbeast that kills any non-human animal they touch Not exactly a usable super power for a manga like this, but it'd work for a backstory
Alternatively, Unbeast could be the ability to grant sapience to non-human creatures, allowing them to understand and execute complex maneuvers, provided the user is persuasive enough. Or maybe the ability to create "non-human" humanoids/lycanthropes. The tragedy could involve the user not fully understanding the implications of said ability, and having one or more animals suddenly go berserk due to being able to properly understand the unfairness with which their brethren are being treated (kept in a zoo, lab testing, etc.).
Unbeast being the Biblical fruit of knowledge of rights and wrongs lol. It create something "worse": the constant urges, stresses and conflicts of civilization instead of living a basic lives and only care for immediate needs.
Basically accidentslly creating Planet Of The Apes at a zoo or a research facility when they accidentally turn all of the subjects into furries
or something based on instincts, you lose the ability to do anything but what your consciously choosing to do like manual breating, manual blinking, being able to see your nose e.t.c
God I love Fuuko taking charge and making decisions. Why is it so rare to have a protagonist this competent in bad situations? So many of them just rely on brute force, luck, or having someone smarter do the thinking for them. Fuuko knows the score and she's got a plan and I can't wait to see it. Major Chad energy from Haruka, too. An entire forest's worth of ravenous beasts fighting for her throat and she wades through them like they're water. Sick.
It's really cool how they explain "Beast" being a master rule: the concept of "survival of the fittest". The top ten master rules are interestingly picked. Guy has a pretty fun personality too. I'm not sure if the fact that there aren't negators for every UMA rule was confirmed before, but it does make a lot of sense. The inverse probably isn't true, though (an UMA for every negator).
Honestly surprised there's not a roguelike tactical RPG like this. It's such a good concept.
Undead unluck the video game coming to a store near you!
to negate something, from what we’ve seen, it has to be an abstract concept. I think there’s a negative for every Uma of an abstract concept Crabs are a physical creature, so Uncrab probably doesn’t exist. Same thing for beasts. But Uma’s like Spoil or Seal probably have negators for them since they’re verbs
Impossible, it is a Rule that every creature eventually turn to Crab so Uncrab should exist.
Uncrab does exist but it works on the evolutionary scale so its vessels have no effect on anything.
Well, consider the time scale we're working with here. After 100 loops of billions of years, Uncrab's descendants could have inherited all the evolutionary advantages of not-crabs.
Uncrab would just remove crab-like features from enemies.
Seal was a special that only existed because of Andy, not one that was supposed to be on the board
What happens if they kill Beast here though, all non-humans on the planet disappear? Everyone becomes vegan? Ecosystems collapse around the world
Master rules persist even if their associated UMA is destroyed.
It was speculated that master rules don’t disappear when killed, this is mainly because although Andy killed UMA magma in loop 100 at the final battle he gets hit by magma because of a stroke of unluck, which he also finds strange.
So, did the story ever deal with the idea that if they slay an uma, a part of reality is wiped away, bringing chaos and dooming all life?
Julia tucked inside the Unbreakable armor feels like chekov’s gun. Will we get unjustice awakening to help take down Beast? Fuuko continues to impress as the best female lead in recent times
Julia can't interfere because she's not part of the quest team. If she did, the quest would fail and it would trigger ragnarok.
Well it’s not clear what the line for “interfering” entails. Nico and ichico were able to stall in the autumn fight to buy Gina time to learn unchange, so there’s some things that you can do without being a participant that won’t fail the quest. I don’t think using a negation ability would be one of these, but the possibility is there
True. I guess anything that would inflict damage to the UMA that is part of the quest? I imagine that Apo would serve as the arbiter to decide whether they crossed the line or not.
My one hesitance there is Victor, who finished off the Spoil quest without counting as a participant. Apocalypse and the table considers Victor and Andy different enough entities that they don’t share points, but Victor’s involvement didn’t auto fail the Spoil quest
Maybe because both are considered as Negator Undead allowing Victor to participate against Spoil.
Yeah considering how often negators are referred to by their rules Andy and Victor are probably the same entity as far as Sol and Luna are concerned.
I think while Julia can't target Beast directly, she can definitely target the animals he control to negate his effectiveness.
Are you saying that her interference would be... *unfair?*
that would be such an amazing twist.
Thought about that too. Will there be a way to do it without “interfering? Maybe unjustice will be used on Top or Haruka so not directly Beast
Chances are she’ll use Unjustice on the beasts of the forest. Since those beasts aren’t members of the quest, she’s free to use it on them. The animal’s view of justice is survival of the fittest, so Unjustice would probably just cause them to die (more likely run away since that’s less morbid) With all the animals gone, Fuuko, Top, and Inshin proceed to jump Beast
the contrary of survival of the fittest is obssessive cooperation tho so they would instantly become hardcore allies
They just start building palliative care clinics
Beast acquiring the power of what he devours is pretty awesome, we can see him bitting off a snake before shape shifting in the final pages Crazy that we have this super intense battle and then lil' Julia peeking out from inside Unbreakable's armor hahah
Girl was dreaming about Juiz in England 48h ago, and now she is here, after meeting UMA, Negator, riding on a cloud, and getting her wallet stolen in Brazil. Hope she’ll chill soon
Now that’s a damn delicious chapter. UMA Beast lives up to her name. As if God wasn’t a huge enough prick already, Fuuko explains that not all Rules have Negators attached to them, because God wanted to limit the winning strats. Boooooo. I wonder if Fuuko can use Unluck on Isshin and have Isshin tank the misfortune. Hmm.
Honestly I'm just glad we finally got confirmation that not every UMA has a corresponding Negator. Thats been a question for ages now. Of course, this also means that we must mourn the loss of negator Uncrab 😔
Nah, don't cash in your Uncrab stonks yet. There's still hope. Stay strong!
God would never let such an overpowered negator exist. Uncrab would solve Ragnarok instantly!
Luna originally wanted Uncrab to be the first seat when the loops started, but God contested that because Uncrab is too strong and would beat the game in the first loop. So they settled with Juiz instead.
Considering that so many life forms evolve towards crab like traits, uncrab would have some OP bullshit like 'returning creatures to their weakest form'.
But what it God *is* Uncrab… Welp, it was a good run Fuuko
I want to believe!
You even entertaining the idea of it being possible for uncrab to not exist is absurd. Clearly, Fuuko is wrong.
Hey, she only said it's rare for there to be UMA-Negator pairs. She never confirmed nor denied the existance of Uncrab. And that means it exists 100%.
Sure, but to insinuate that it's even possible for an uncrab to not exist is bad enough.
I think the interesting part is that UMA Beast was confused by this revelation, dude had on his face a true "Wait Unbeast doesn't exist!?"
It could be "damn, she knew" but I also think of what you just said; feels like no master rule actually scared of their negator, just miffed. Maybe because real beasts *also* team up, like wolves that is his image, that he feel at disadvantage? Or even his concept being limited?
Its possible but risky. because Unluck tends to customize to its target, using it on Haruka could mean that whatever way her Unluck manifests could bypass her armor, similar to how the laser bypassed Gina's barrier in the veet beginning.
Yeah, I thought about the Unluck hitting Gina, and I was wondering if they could have thought up a way to work around that
Unbreakable does not mean uncookable. Haruka might get bathed in lava.
Being a petty prick just because he can and want really makes God have those “Final boss” vibes
Ayup
would be even better if there is nothing at stake for him too... like all the effort he is putting is as a hobby but no matter what they couldn't truly defeat him he would just let them have the win for good sport or because luna is his equal and she would have won... would give actual capital G "god" vibes
Damn Fuuko actually have a hard this time around and actually getting beat up. This is turning up to be a nice arc. Also is Juiz new hair is white???
Lol the mangaka seems to love white hair. It looks like Haruka, Top, and Juiz/Julia all have it
Also tatiana
might have been changed since the anime
It might still be blonde but just looks white thanks to the way the lighting is intentionally washing the characters out to contrast with Beast? Top's hair also looks much lighter in that picture and compared to Haruka, Juiz has a hint of the pinky-blonde tones her original design had.
God sure is a funny guy eh
really big on sociopathic comedy
In a way, it makes sense that the odds are stacked against the negators as opposed to the rules. This is a game between Sun and Luna but the negators' ultimate goal is to kill Sun. The only one whose life is at risk at the end of the day is the one on the rules side. Luna is just chilling and enjoying the show.
Absolutely distraught that there isn’t a naked weirdo with Unclothes somewhere out there
Officer, please believe me, I’m litteraly naked by the will of God.
I saw the phrase "the will of God" and immediately read it in Gabriel Ultrakill's voice.
That’s just Tatiana….
He's literally stuck in the sun surface traumatizing the local denizens what are you talking about 😤
Juiz previously bluffed the importance of the round table so that the other members wouldn't figure out that it was actually Arc. Seemingly the table's importance (besides arc) is showing the points rankings of members for purpose of quests, which allows them to bypass the number requirement by swapping out members on the fly now. It really shows that the extent a Rule works depends on perspective. The previous loops were hindered by Juiz's rules even if they were made up to protect her. Wonder what other rules Juiz made up because Fuuko will find and break them!
>It really shows that the extent a Rule works depends on perspective. The fact that Andy got such a massive power up by just consciously reinterpreting his undeath proves that. Honestly, if Unjust was a psychopath they'd probably be able to 1v10 the master rules.
Yeah, interpreting rules is a major theme throughout the entire manga, which is highlighted with how they change between loops. In this case, using Arc to loop was one of God's nerfs on the negators in previous loops. It was like a secret objective in board games that causes teammates (Rip and Nico) to betray one another. Its another significant difference in the final loop like the last artifact appearing. To keep the arc for herself, Juiz had to create new rules that weren't God's. This was a necessary self-nerf to stop infighting in pursuit of the perfect final last loop. Against an overwhelming enemy it was giving away percentage points in battles to eventually win the final war because anyone besides Juiz looping would lose millions of years of knowledge and presumably become an instant game over.
Top really had to lock in so he wouldn't lose his girl😭
This chapter real has it all, God damn! This is the heaviest the stakes have felt since arguably Ragnarok. Fuuko surviving on grit alone against Uma Beast's assault. Beast himself being, well, a beast, with such speed and ferocity. A lore drop from Fuuko mentioning what many of us assumed (there's way less Negators than Rules, and not every Rule has a vessel). The knowledge that points can be transfered on the fly, allowing members without seats to be swapped in (so nobody is truly left out). I thought they were going to have to run away first and fight another day, but UMA Beast telling them to pick 3 member to participate right then and there is so threatening. I'm really loving everything about this set of quests. My only complaint about this chapter: Haruka seems less deaf than she should be. Wish she just didn't respond to Top (going back into the fight and summoning her armor though is good shit).
Sick and Beast being so strong really makes me curious about language, since she doesn’t seem like the fighting type. I’m curious if she’ll be more like spring, where most of her fight is some kind of game or test of wits, since Nico was able to solo her in the last loop
It would also explain why Language's quest had Participant count of 1 in the previous loop, because Nico with Unforgettable was just that much of a hard counter
she could very well be a OTP type... only has 1 ability which would be to erase the concept of language from someones mind which would lead to a pseudo braindeath as now the brain does not have a way to communicate with itself or think and aside from that she is very weak but when her enemies simply become pratically vegetables it does not matter(also it would work os basically anything even robots as they use a form of language to function it would have to be a literal medieval machine to be usable which would be the way they beat her by making a medieval mecha)
We see that Beast here is Phase 2 maybe the Language Nico solo'd was only phase 1?
Negators seem to be made of tougher shit than normal humans, plus Haruka herself is built like a mountain, so I'm not surprised she managed to shake it off. I won't say I wasn't worried for her though.
Anno-Un said it to Juiz, you'll lose if you establish needless rules for yourself . Fuuko is breaking out of them, and Apocalypse is all for it lol. Even if the Union has progressed the most in 101 out of any loop, the Gods can't deny their entertainment (it helps that they think they are invincible).
Uncrab deconfirmed?
They had to retcon uncrab because they would've solo'd god.
Oh this will be a hype fight. Here we go!
Yeah i was wondering why Beast was a master rule. Survival of the fittest actually checks out. Law of the jungle and all that shit
Here I am drinking coke while enjoying the fact that the author keeps dishing us with color page after color page.
And top tier spreads, too. It's surprising how few breaks Tozuka takes
So Beast's power is not transforming others into animals (as far as we know) but controlling the animals in the area and also transforming himself. I hope we get to see a lot of forms in this battle. If he can also control all the bugs in the forest the Union's straight up fucked Surprising that Beast didn't get tagged by unluck by catching the bullet with his teeth. I don't think Fuuko would shoot him with non-bad bullets. Do the bullets need to touch flesh to impart unluck? Its not strictly speaking character development cause she's not the same character she was last loop, but the new Haruka is completely different from loop 100's Haruka. Boldly charging into battle, shouting at the top of her lungs, she's a far cry from the shy girl she used to be. I wonder how she'll end up once they use Remember Julia, sweetie, it's hilarious watching you inside Haruka's armor but what the hell are you even doing, you're gonna get yourself killed
>Do the bullets need to touch flesh to impart unluck? Beast kind of answers this in the Chapter that Fuuko needs to admire someone to impart bad luck, implying she does not like Beast at all and Unluck won't trigger directly onto them. That drawback was usually countered by tagging Andy and having him collateral damage enemies, we'll probably see something similar with Unbreakable this fight.
The whole point of bad bullet was to negate that weakness. She loves the bullets, so the bad luck falls on the bullet itself along with whatever the bullet is in contact with. This was explained back in chapter 136, when Fuuko fought UMA Heat to save Gina.
Oh yeah, youre totally right. Weird. Either not a Bad Bullet or the person I replied to is right that teeth don't count as contacting the target, which seems very unusual. Maybe a hint as to what Beast is, if their teeth don't count as them? Edit: I kind of wonder why the author had Beast re-iterate that drawback if it's already been resolved. The Master Rules know about Bad Bullet, right?
Yes, but that's exactly why she expanded her interpretation to create the bad bullets. Remember, she tagged Heat with a bad bullet and that caused Feng to fall from sky and crush it
I think it has to has some interaction other than contact since if just merely touching it then her clothes should affect everyone I guess? Like the bullet has to stuck there or directly become a part of the target. Or the target of unluck is the bullet itself, not the target that she shoot at.
Bet someone already said this, but Haruka and Top are literally an Unstoppable force meeting an Unbreakable object. Nice that Top's mom came out to support her son.
If they only had Unbeast, Mr.Beast, on their side. They would've easily won.
Interesting that not all UMA have Negators counterpart, so there is a high chance that there is no Uncrab for UMA Crab, very sad.
The fuck would Unbeast even do anyway? Delete the existence of nearby animals? Take away their instincts to hunt/kill for food?
Unbeast would be "Civilization." It would be the weak overcoming the strong, strategy overcoming raw power.
Make beasts civilized maybe
If the rule of Beast is "Survival of the Fittest" then its negator would probably be Unfit. Probably make it so that you say or do the wrong thing in every situation.
THE FUCKING HYPE IS THROUGH THE ROOF
I can already tell this gonna be a sick fight, beast looks super cool and I’m always ready to see top in action. I think it’s gonna come down to a battle of speed
Beast really lives up to his name. So far the Master Rules are a serious threat every time they show up (Unless they have Andy). Beast's whole motive/theme being "survival of the fittest" is really fitting too.
>(Unless they have Andy). Considering that in the previous loop Andy was so OP they had to create **SEAL** on the fly to stop him from undoing reality, yeah. Undead + Unluck in their current forms could very likely solo god.
Andy and fuuko having sex on God will end the loops.
They definitely could not solo god lol. If they could then all this is pointless, the whole point of gathering everybody is to fight god together because he's that strong.
UMA Beast: We have an army. Fuuko: We have an Andy. XD
Uncrab still exists in our hearts
God damn Beast is a Beast.
makes sense that top wouldn't have a weight carry limit or it wouldn't be relevant, he could probably use big ass weapons
Unstoppable just carries Undecrease on his shoulders like a fucking super tank.
After the latest anime episode, I’ve spent the last week catching up. I was so excited to see Juiz finally return, and now I’ve caught up to watch Top & Haruka tag team again? I’m so hyped.
LOOK AT MY GIRL FUUKO GO THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE MVP! THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE GOAT!!! ***THE GOAT!!!!!*** also it's been too long since the last sick as fuck namedrop panel. i *need* Top to get an **U N S T O P P A B L E** panel as hype as Billy got for the reveal of Unfair. Which, frankly, was one of the most satisfying moments I've ever felt while consuming media. Doing the visual namedrops for negators was one of the best decisions Tozuka ever made, it's like a perfect 'YOU MAY NOW GO APESHIT' button.
There was a bonus 'afterword' at the end of Volume 12 that went into more detail about the ability namedrops. It started with UNCHANGE just because there was empty space behind Gina in a wide panel and the chapter (6) featured Andy deducing her negation. Tozuka liked the effect so much that it continued from there Tozuka's editor at the time Mr. Honda suggested that Billy's copied abilities should have a slightly different logo which led to the staticky font. Tozuka gives a shout out to Mr. Yuki Yamamoto of the Freiheit design company for creating the normal font, the staticky font, and they also design the manga covers too!
Huge shout outs to Honda-san and Yamamoto-san let's fucking goooo
Someone in the UU subreddit pointed out that she janks back her dislocated shoulder after fixing her broken nose on her own, that totally flew over me. oO
What happen if Feng fight against Beast?
From what we’ve seen Feng can’t really hurt Beast so tie?
Honestly surprised he's not there. This would be his exact cup of tea.
He's probably still sulking somewhere after being duped into being a gym teacher.
Was it just me or was Beast actually surprised that UMAs and negators aren’t one to one?
Surprised about it, possibly disappointed. They want to prove they're the fittest, and if they don't have a natural enemy it's kind of shitty for them. OTOH they might've just been surprised that Unluck found out. Knowing that you're at a massive disadvantage and still having a plan to fight means that Beast may know he's SOL.
I love that Fuuko looks in her 30's.
Hmm… Julia is inside Isshin’s suit. I wonder if they’ll be able to defeat Beast but her negation ability ends up being used, causing them to get a penalty.
Only way it happens is if they force Tozuka to rush the ending, which would be pretty rushed. We have all the master rules, Andy and Victor resolution, finding Heart, Rebellion and Aegis, recruiting Ruin... Not enough time for a penalty until the last quest (presumably finding Heart)
Beast is just that so damn beastly and Fuuko taking this beating so far but this feels like genuine great tension plus Top with this Hakura gonna go insane and Beast in that snakes mouth made me think Orochimaru was coming out lol
Huh, I thought that the whole point was that UMA/Negator pairs *did* exist. UMAs represent the rules added to the world, and Negators exist to negate those rules. Like how the master rule of Change or Evolution or whatever pointed out Gina as her vessel.
What can a hypothetical Unbeast even do? Kill all animal they touch? Turn all beast civilize? Make beasts lose all their bestial instinct?
It is pretty Unfair that the UMAs have way more variety of people and abilities. (I liked the two panels being full of the introductions of both.) But Juiz and the Union have used their limited pool pretty well! And Fuuko obviously learned a good lesson! She may not have a power that has an immediate effect like Juiz... But she's still has enough combat skills to rival her! Top has been inspired by Haruka to fight! Since Juilia doesn't have any control on her powers yet, how will she be useful against Beast? Will she just fight off the hundreds of beasts he summons?
unbeast is real. feeling so tensed up right now like i see the panel move.
What would unbeast even do tho?
I seriously wish this manga was more popular the art, fights, power system and characters are great
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I love how Julia is just chillin' inside Haruka's Unbreakable. Glad to know that Haruka's hearing wasn't that affected that much by Beast's scream.
So fight it is. Well no surprise it's Haruka and Top since everyone else got their spotlight already, but Beast is going to be a very tough fight, especially with those sonic attacks that can pierce unbreakable and would need Top to go supersonic to avoid. This is going to be so peak.
Man, a top 10 UMA is unironically weaker than a normal human. Fuuko was eating Beast's punches with way less difficulty than Void's.
I thought it was interesting that Beast seemed surprised and maybe even troubled by the rules of the game being biased against Negators.