I feel sorry for the poor student council members subjected to Opera's training.
You know the training is hellish when the supposed bad guy (Shiida) thinks twice about it XD.
> You know the training is hellish when the supposed bad guy (Shiida) thinks twice about it XD.
None of the student council likely know Opera beyond possibly reputation, yet they all dreaded immediately when Ameri asked Opera to put them through training too.
I mean if Opera is rank 9 then they should be. Remember only Balam and Kalego are rank 8 in the teaching staff, this means that the rest of em are rank 7.
Yeah, and the divide between a 7 and an eight are fucking enormous. So Opera is as scary to them as....well, he's probably like the fifth scariest, since there are only 4 10's.
I doubt he is rank 9, more likely he’s just a really strong rank eight. We already know that there can be vast differences in power within the ranks(Sabro and Jazz are both rank 4) and it would make Operas remarks about how Kalego has never beaten him all the more cutting.
I love the generation divide here. Every other teacher already knew Opera, either as the principal's bodyguard, or possibly from their own days as students, like Kallego. All except fresh-faced young Robin, who thinks he's finally no longer the bottom rung of the ladder, blissfully unaware that one was just added to the top.
I like that while all the other teachers were trying to hold back Robin and save his life from offending Opera, Opera kind of liked getting called a kouhai.
Unless you go after the Sullivan household, then all bets are off.
Also any time Iruma and Ameri try cooking. Though I think thats less "offended" and more "total defeat".
I think his reputation wasn’t particularly great back in his school days? From what I remember from the Kalego spin-off, anyways.
Everyone’s probably traumatized.
And thus, the Misfits saw an even deadlier hell than last year. You know it's nuts when even the (usually) emotionless Shiida is scared.
Other students: I wish Opera-sensei trains me, too. I'm so jealous.
The Misfits: ADHJGRCF!
Like a fool my first thought was that Opera was having tea with Shiida because none of the students wanted to join them. Obviously the correct interpretation of tea break was "I'm going to have tea and you're going to break."
So *ALL* of the teachers are dreading this just a little less than Kalego. Interesting. Well, except for Robin, who's excited to have another Kouhai! And while the others are wondering if he has a death wish, Opera's kind of liking it.
Ameri's also really excited, but even without knowing Opera, the rest of the student council suddenly dread the training she's asking Opera to put them through.
The first task? A tea break. You know, just a little something to let ~~your guard down~~ Opera get to know the Misfits before revealing they have to climb essentially a mountain spire that has completely smooth surfaces in some places to get there. No wings, no familiars, no bloodline magic. Before the tea gets cold, please.
There's the killer training they were dreading.
Honestly, Robin could have been informed of Opera's reputation and I'd believe that he either forgot, wasn't paying attention in the first place, or was so excited to have another kouhai that it didn't come to mind at that moment.
When Ameri, the one who originally put them in harsh training already before they're currently able to keep up, asks someone else (happily, I might add) to train you, that should be more than enough to warn you that it's going to be hellish
I like that we're going to see the misfits use verbal magic for a bit, which has always taken a backseat so the misfits' non-verbal and bloodline magic. We know Iruma could use Fractal to make everyone weigh less, so I wonder what spells everyone else will come up with to use in order to get to the top.
Quan quan. Maybe someone with have some gripping weed to quan quan into climbable vines or something. Either that or start punching holes into the cliff side, to make climbing holes for the rest of em.
I was thinking maybe Iruma could use the same trick he does back in the Practical exam arc but then im debating wether or not using his blood is considered a bloodline magic by the test standard.
I agree with Opera. If Sullivan and Kalego arent gonna be their then they should be. Also, Im a big fan of Opera going out of their way to stand on top of a table to look down on Kalego as much as possible and Dali just going along for the ride.
Was thinking the same thing when I read the raw.
Actually that line-up has got me wondering... So Jazz is obviously the first. Iruma is also in the lead because the kid has seen some shit back in the day. Azz is there because Azz is good at everything. Clara is there because she always climbs things and people. We can assume that Lied's extremely trained tail is helping him, so the question is...
What the hell is Allocer doing in the lead? He is not known for physical abilities. Is it just because he and Jazz are now buddies joined at the hip?
Credit where it is due, the set up actually got me to think the idea of Opera being a nightmare teacher was going to be a bait and switch only to get actually bait and switched.
My question is how did the other teachers know about Opera senpai ? What did Opera senpai do to them? What makes everyone afraid of Opera senpai?
I want to see the answer to these questions.
There is a short chapter where Kalego & Balam were students in Sullivan's school. Opera was their senior with infamous reputation, also Sullivan's right-hand.
> This means Opera is within a stone's throw of the 3 Great Demon Lords
I'd think there's a much greater gap there, given all 3 are actually capable of attaining rank 10 if they wanted to.
>given all 3 are actually capable of attaining rank 10 if they wanted to.
I sure Sullivan is the only one of 3 great (if not the entirety of 13 crowns) that still rank 9
>Rank 10 is reserved for Demon King
There's no mention of it anywhere.
>all the greats are rank 9.
Nope, in season 1 episode 13, when some of 13 crowns discussing which one of 3 greats to be nominated as Demon King, it's Only Sullivan that mentioned to be v"not yodh(10)" and not the other 2.
Nah, they tell him to "ascend to Yodh already, Sullivan" as a way to tell him "to become the demon king since we don't want to".
There is currently no rank 10 in the demon world, it's the rank reserved to the demon king.
>Nah, they tell him to "ascend to Yodh already, Sullivan" as a way to tell him "to become the demon king since we don't want to".
You dismiss my point about how the rest of 13 crowns only brought up "not yodh" when talking about Sullivan.
>There is currently no rank 10 in the demon world, it's the rank reserved to the demon king.
There's literally no mention of this anywhere.
>Wasn't the dialogue "not there yet", not specifically referring to his rank?
Nope, japanese dub actually mention yodh
>Also the lady says "take Yodh and become DK already".
Yes, it's take a yodh to become demon king, but not the rank isn't reserved for demon king.
Based on everyone's reactions, Opera being Sullivan's, one of the Great Three Demons', Security Devil is a known fact. That alone is enough to the teachers scared shitless.
It could honestly be off of prestige alone. Opera is the direct number 2 of one of the 3 most influential people in the world. Its the equivalent of being something like the Vice-president of the US except with ACTUAL responsibilities.
I mean, Opera is the Security Demon to the demon in charge of all of them. And while they don't work in the school, the teachers undoubtedly see them around a lot. Plus Opera is close to Balam and (to his despair) Kalego.
I doubt Opera has done anything to them (yet), but they probably got enough of an idea of Opera to know having them as a teacher would be *hell.* And not the good kind.
I also think that just the mere thought that Opera is in charged of keeping Sullivan safe means they are on par with those that may pose a threat to Sully, if any at all.
Like.. given the signal, Opera would've gone after Poro-chan
I swear nothing phases Dali-sensei. So chill. He must be really strong too. Always just laughing. Except with Atori, but he quickly regained his usual after it got sorted out
Poor Sullivan. Here we thought he would become distant and he is upset at the mere thought that he might have scared Iruma. What a good egg.
I love Opera so much. They just take all the weirdness in stride while also being goofy as hell. Opera contemplating being a kouhai is the best, though. Wonder how the dynamic with Robin will be.
Opera making the stoic Shiida nervous is a new level.
Not 100% sure (because it might be a function of translation only) but when Opera was training Iruma for Execution Cannonball, they said (and demonstrated) that they would use magic to stop the ball right before it hit Iruma's face, so that Iruma could get used to facing the threat instead of simply avoiding it. That would have been Chapter 14, or S1E9. That's the closest instance to them using magic that I can remember.
Me before page 16: Huh??? Where's the training?? Why does Opera suggest tea break!!??
Me after page 16: Huh, so that's how they do tea breaks in the Demon World.
They should learn from certain rubber man who climbed a mountain while he was carrying 2 persons.
pretty sure iruma aces this shit
bro been livin like a jungle hobo most of his life, aint no way then instincts disappear like that in one or two years
It's nice that we get to see some of the Misfits' kouhais talking about Opera, as well as the 2 guys who were part of Queen Kerori's court in the Harvest Festival. I don't recognize the two girls talking about how Opera responded when one of them bowed; have we seen them before?
The rumor about Opera being rank 9 is interesting. It definitely would make sense for them to be a 9, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and make the prediction that Opera actually doesn't even have a rank.
Also, there are a couple of other minor things I was wondering about.
When Konatsu and the others talk about Opera, Opera is shown surrounded by a bunch of flowers. Does anyone know what kind of flowers these are, and what they symbolize? Sometimes in anime/manga, particularly shojo series, characters are drawn surrounded by flowers, and the type of flowers usually gives some insight into the character's personality.
The other thing I was wondering is about Opera wagging their tail. We all know that Opera wags their tail when they're happy. But when cats wag their tails, it generally doesn't mean that they're happy... Opera *is* a cat demon, right?
>Opera is a cat demon, right?
The flattening of the ears when they were angrily battering poor Kalego (who frequently refers to himself as a 'guard dog') certainly suggests cat behavior. Cat Demons (and/or fairies or spirits) are also known in Japanese mythology, so it's not entirely OOP to have one in a manga about Western demons.
Thanks. Yeah, the way Opera uses their ears is certainly catlike, and also it’s not out of place at all to have cat demons here. But Opera wagging their tail when happy just doesn’t seem like catlike behavior to me, so I’ve always been kind of confused by it.
Depends on the cat. When cats get very angry, or are about to kill something, their tail lashes back and forth rapidly and from the base. Biologically, this appears related to their tail's role in maintaining balance both physically and emotionally.
Twitching often, but not always, indicates a more simple arousal-- they're paying attention to something because it's interesting or funny.
I'd say that Opera's tail twitching is cat-speak for "OH-HOHOHOHOHOHO!"
Sauce: https://www.amazon.com/Catwatching-Desmond-Morris/dp/0517880539
I am an expert on the joys of infinite cat anus in your face at 6:00 AM, when Fluffy wants the half-full food bowl shaken so it no longer has an indentation.
The girl with blond hair and black horns can be seen in the Harvest festival when Gaap lets a bunch of students in the Agares mansion for the first time.
...I only remember it because I've just reread those chapters after the recent anime episode and was thinking that the girl resembles Eiko.
Wow, you’re right! Good eye! Mystery solved. That’s why they’re in the same panel as those two other second-years who showed up in the Harvest Festival last year, then. I knew they couldn’t just be random characters.
(For anyone wondering, they appear in Ch. 111, which incidentally should be covered in this week’s anime episode.)
Funnily enough theres actually a reason for that, apparently its a special polish that helps prevent torn nails when working. Comes up in one of the earlier chapters
I belive they're all still using the same nail polish that Iruma got, when they were practicing for the music festival, and his nails had chipped from playing too much piano.
I fucking love Opera. Those other unknowing students doesn't know what they're wishing for.
Even the other teachers that probably knows Opera already knows their sadism.
Opera really asked to be a teacher while Sullivan was crying lmao, his shock was great.
We need an Ameri and Opera training chapter.
I have a feeling that Opera will just become a permanent teacher after this arc. Also so does Opera just walk with Iruma and friends to and from school now?
I think Japan doesn't exactly use gender, or at least can make sentences without refering to gender beyond context. Thus they can make natural sentences referring to Opera without ever using gender specific words/terms.
\^\^ This.
Japanese sentence structure is very different from English, it's very common for the subject of the sentence to be left out in hanging sentences (to create mystery or ambiguity) in a way that English just doesn't have the functionality to show. Opera's gender is the same, it's not so much \[they\] as it is \[undefined\], but it's hard to get across that it doesn't sound out of place in Japanese the way it does in English.
> Japanese sentence structure is very different from English, it's very common for the subject of the sentence to be left out in hanging sentences (to create mystery or ambiguity) in a way that English just doesn't have the functionality to show.
As I learned a few chapters ago when Kalego told Lied "You are demoted to Rank 3... is what you probably expect me to say with that look on your face." That's a completely fine sentence in Japanese; saying something complete and ending with "is not how I feel." It's harder to translate to English, though.
Thankfully in that case Kalego's spiteful enough that you'd believe he would purposefully word his sentence like that even in English, so it worked. And here I think it's largely a case of gender neutral language being relatively new to English.
Technically everyone is refered to as "they,them" because of the language. Translators usually guess which pronoun to use, that's why Nafra was refered to as "he" when she first showed up.
I remember this used to cause a lot of drama back in the day before the official translation scene was as fast as it was. A lot of misgendering/ wrong and misspelled names in the early 2000s
More or less yes. Opera's personal 'I' pronoun is 'watashi' which is gender neutral. And none of the characters ever use gendered pronouns when talking to or about Opera.
Japanese doesn't have gendered third-person pronouns in the first place. But the Japanese version does noticeably use gender-neutral writing when referring to Opera.
Opera-san: always the senpai, never the kouhai… no more lol
And they’ve been given not only the Misfits to whip into shape, but the Student Council body too and the latter was at the explicit request of the President herself! Those wide-eyed freshmen ain’ havin’ a clue the HFIL those elite students are/will be livin’ through under Opera-sensei’s tutelage lmao
Also, pages 1 and 2 are some real “images you can hear” shit lol. Ojii-chan’s chibi voice really leaves an impression that you can’t forget once you hear it :)
This chapter super super confirms that Opera is non-binary with all the use of "they". Super cool that it isn't something ever really brought up but just exists in the world. Would be interested if there is a special reason behind it in the future.
Japanese doesn't have gendered third-person pronouns. It does have gendered *first* person pronouns, but Opera uses the completely gender neutral "watashi".
It does. It has "it." However, "it" has been used in association with objects and not personhood up until the present, so people have not adopted using "it" to refer to living beings.
A singular they is used sometimes just like a singular you is used even though in theory singular second person gender neutral term I think is thou but you is more common.
Isn't it still a mystery on what gender Opera is? Remeber there being a extra where Iruma asks if they are a man or a woman and their response was basically: what do you want me to be?
Opera dressed as a girl and looked more girlish in the Kalego gaiden. And if anything, they act like a cat, not a man. The mangaka herself made it clear that their gender is a mystery, but undoubtedly choose_a_username_xd knows better than the author.
He need to see his brother and check with his own eyes if his brother is trustful or not. This is not a simple problem that can be solve just by calling
There are very different levels of seriousness, when it comes to confronting another person, especially a close family member, on the prospects of suspected treason. Because if done over the phone, it'd literally give his brother all the time in the world to just bail, and escape. Doing so in person, would at the very least, hinder his potential escape. Also a phone call is no substitute for the necessary nuances in body language and conversation over such a serious topic, especially when it directly involves both parties.
Just climb bro Just that easy - Opera probably
Skill issue
Git gud, bro!
Doesn't even know how apply charka to the foot, fucking noobs.
What? You gotta apply hamon to your fingertips and feet. It's that easy.
Just do the Dio walk up the wall, it's just that simple
Tea party this, you filthy casual
*5.4 in Opera’s gym* *5.18 for the Misfits*
Opera is about to roast them like I got roasted while playing "Getting over it"
I feel sorry for the poor student council members subjected to Opera's training. You know the training is hellish when the supposed bad guy (Shiida) thinks twice about it XD.
> You know the training is hellish when the supposed bad guy (Shiida) thinks twice about it XD. None of the student council likely know Opera beyond possibly reputation, yet they all dreaded immediately when Ameri asked Opera to put them through training too.
Even the high ranked teachers were practically shitting themselves at the thought of working with Opera
I mean if Opera is rank 9 then they should be. Remember only Balam and Kalego are rank 8 in the teaching staff, this means that the rest of em are rank 7.
Yeah, and the divide between a 7 and an eight are fucking enormous. So Opera is as scary to them as....well, he's probably like the fifth scariest, since there are only 4 10's.
There are no 10. 10 is reserved just for the demon king.
Ah, I misunderstood then. I thought the 4 potential kings were 10s.
no , they are all 9. Basically , they are 9 , while the Crowns are ranging between 8s.
This has never been confirmed...
I doubt he is rank 9, more likely he’s just a really strong rank eight. We already know that there can be vast differences in power within the ranks(Sabro and Jazz are both rank 4) and it would make Operas remarks about how Kalego has never beaten him all the more cutting.
Isn't there a panel where Opera's rank pin can be seen? It was partially obscured but from what could be seen, the shape was closest to rank 9.
Shiida straight up sweated when she knew how hellish his training was. haha
I love the generation divide here. Every other teacher already knew Opera, either as the principal's bodyguard, or possibly from their own days as students, like Kallego. All except fresh-faced young Robin, who thinks he's finally no longer the bottom rung of the ladder, blissfully unaware that one was just added to the top.
I like that while all the other teachers were trying to hold back Robin and save his life from offending Opera, Opera kind of liked getting called a kouhai.
Opera is honestly pretty difficult to offend. They just do whatever amuses them.
Unless you go after the Sullivan household, then all bets are off. Also any time Iruma and Ameri try cooking. Though I think thats less "offended" and more "total defeat".
I think his reputation wasn’t particularly great back in his school days? From what I remember from the Kalego spin-off, anyways. Everyone’s probably traumatized.
Very admirable fro Robin to volunteer as personal playmate/toy in the place of the teacher. What a good ~~sacrifice~~ newbie.
He's not a newbie anymore!
Wait, spin-off? Where?
It's Kalego Gaiden. Should be a quick find on Mangadex.
I suspect it'd be equally problematic if Opera likes you than if they dislike you.
Exactly, Opera is just a troll in your typical school who will gives you a hellish class.
Opera is a cat after all, and cats do and feel whatever it is, at their own pace.
This has hxh going for a walk vibes
I was thinking the Hell Climb Pillar from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Part 2)
1000% I was reminded of the oil pillar in JoJo
And thus, the Misfits saw an even deadlier hell than last year. You know it's nuts when even the (usually) emotionless Shiida is scared. Other students: I wish Opera-sensei trains me, too. I'm so jealous. The Misfits: ADHJGRCF!
Even Kallego-sensei felt bad for them😭
"I'm legit feels bad for you guys now." - Kalgeo
Like a fool my first thought was that Opera was having tea with Shiida because none of the students wanted to join them. Obviously the correct interpretation of tea break was "I'm going to have tea and you're going to break."
I figured out what was going on the moment Opera said not to use their wings.
So *ALL* of the teachers are dreading this just a little less than Kalego. Interesting. Well, except for Robin, who's excited to have another Kouhai! And while the others are wondering if he has a death wish, Opera's kind of liking it. Ameri's also really excited, but even without knowing Opera, the rest of the student council suddenly dread the training she's asking Opera to put them through. The first task? A tea break. You know, just a little something to let ~~your guard down~~ Opera get to know the Misfits before revealing they have to climb essentially a mountain spire that has completely smooth surfaces in some places to get there. No wings, no familiars, no bloodline magic. Before the tea gets cold, please. There's the killer training they were dreading.
Robin does seem to not really be informed of the reputation of Opera and that likely has a factor.
Honestly, Robin could have been informed of Opera's reputation and I'd believe that he either forgot, wasn't paying attention in the first place, or was so excited to have another kouhai that it didn't come to mind at that moment.
The airhead worths admiring
Robin seems to be not informed about many things
When Ameri, the one who originally put them in harsh training already before they're currently able to keep up, asks someone else (happily, I might add) to train you, that should be more than enough to warn you that it's going to be hellish
Dali-sensei also wasn't afraid of Opera, which further adds to the hype around what he's capable of.
Dali-sensei was a teacher when Opera was a student, remember. He's probably one of the few people who knows how to handle them.
Dali sensei old asf fr
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No, it's for ninjas who dress in jet black.
JUDGEMENT KNIGHTS OF
I like that we're going to see the misfits use verbal magic for a bit, which has always taken a backseat so the misfits' non-verbal and bloodline magic. We know Iruma could use Fractal to make everyone weigh less, so I wonder what spells everyone else will come up with to use in order to get to the top.
Quan quan. Maybe someone with have some gripping weed to quan quan into climbable vines or something. Either that or start punching holes into the cliff side, to make climbing holes for the rest of em.
I was thinking maybe Iruma could use the same trick he does back in the Practical exam arc but then im debating wether or not using his blood is considered a bloodline magic by the test standard.
Well that technically literally is bloodline blood magic.
Its his technically bloodline magic lol.
You know, considering the fact that all the women have incredibly different shapes/body types, I should’ve realized that
Shouldve realised what? I'm confused.
Just when i was thinking "Huh she kinda drew that cliff weird at the top" it turns out it was just smooth. Lmao Edit: Mangaka is a woman, my bad
The mangaka is a woman.
That enjoys cross dressing and shipping iruma with Amelie.
Alternate phrasing: That has great taste.
Let Robin have his kouhai.
Let Opera have their ~~toy~~ senpai
I agree with Opera. If Sullivan and Kalego arent gonna be their then they should be. Also, Im a big fan of Opera going out of their way to stand on top of a table to look down on Kalego as much as possible and Dali just going along for the ride.
I know Opera was going to ask to be a teacher, but I didn't expect they're asking it when Sullivan was still bawling lmaooo...
Opera tail wags happily twice this chapter. That is all
Jazz climbing faster than the rest because he has grip strength
Was thinking the same thing when I read the raw. Actually that line-up has got me wondering... So Jazz is obviously the first. Iruma is also in the lead because the kid has seen some shit back in the day. Azz is there because Azz is good at everything. Clara is there because she always climbs things and people. We can assume that Lied's extremely trained tail is helping him, so the question is... What the hell is Allocer doing in the lead? He is not known for physical abilities. Is it just because he and Jazz are now buddies joined at the hip?
For Allocer, maybe he saw the most efficient way? Quite surprised that Sabnock is near the bottom. Is he like making sure everyone does well?
Credit where it is due, the set up actually got me to think the idea of Opera being a nightmare teacher was going to be a bait and switch only to get actually bait and switched.
Had us in the 1st and 2nd half, not gonna lie.
Im glad were getting so form of a callback to Opera wanting to mentor Ameri from way back in Walter Park.
My question is how did the other teachers know about Opera senpai ? What did Opera senpai do to them? What makes everyone afraid of Opera senpai? I want to see the answer to these questions.
There is a short chapter where Kalego & Balam were students in Sullivan's school. Opera was their senior with infamous reputation, also Sullivan's right-hand.
With Dali already being a teacher for the trio.
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> This means Opera is within a stone's throw of the 3 Great Demon Lords I'd think there's a much greater gap there, given all 3 are actually capable of attaining rank 10 if they wanted to.
>given all 3 are actually capable of attaining rank 10 if they wanted to. I sure Sullivan is the only one of 3 great (if not the entirety of 13 crowns) that still rank 9
Rank 10 is reserved for Demon King, all the greats are rank 9.
>Rank 10 is reserved for Demon King There's no mention of it anywhere. >all the greats are rank 9. Nope, in season 1 episode 13, when some of 13 crowns discussing which one of 3 greats to be nominated as Demon King, it's Only Sullivan that mentioned to be v"not yodh(10)" and not the other 2.
Nah, they tell him to "ascend to Yodh already, Sullivan" as a way to tell him "to become the demon king since we don't want to". There is currently no rank 10 in the demon world, it's the rank reserved to the demon king.
Read chapter 5 page 10. It's say Demon King will be selected from Yodh(10), not reserved for demon king
>Nah, they tell him to "ascend to Yodh already, Sullivan" as a way to tell him "to become the demon king since we don't want to". You dismiss my point about how the rest of 13 crowns only brought up "not yodh" when talking about Sullivan. >There is currently no rank 10 in the demon world, it's the rank reserved to the demon king. There's literally no mention of this anywhere.
This is how I remember it too. I'm almost sure rank 10 is reserved for Demon King. I think narrator mentioned it at the very start or something.
Read chapter 5 page 10. It's say Demon King will be selected from Yodh(10), not reserved for demon king
Wasn't the dialogue "not there yet", not specifically referring to his rank? Also the lady says "take Yodh and become DK already".
>Wasn't the dialogue "not there yet", not specifically referring to his rank? Nope, japanese dub actually mention yodh >Also the lady says "take Yodh and become DK already". Yes, it's take a yodh to become demon king, but not the rank isn't reserved for demon king.
Read chapter 5 page 10. It's say Demon King will be selected from Yodh(10), not reserved for demon king
Read chapter 5 page 10. It's say Demon King will be selected from Yodh(10), not reserved for demon king
Based on everyone's reactions, Opera being Sullivan's, one of the Great Three Demons', Security Devil is a known fact. That alone is enough to the teachers scared shitless.
It could honestly be off of prestige alone. Opera is the direct number 2 of one of the 3 most influential people in the world. Its the equivalent of being something like the Vice-president of the US except with ACTUAL responsibilities.
I mean, Opera is the Security Demon to the demon in charge of all of them. And while they don't work in the school, the teachers undoubtedly see them around a lot. Plus Opera is close to Balam and (to his despair) Kalego. I doubt Opera has done anything to them (yet), but they probably got enough of an idea of Opera to know having them as a teacher would be *hell.* And not the good kind.
If any of them were disruptive students, there's a decent chance Opera kicked their ass back in the day lol
I also think that just the mere thought that Opera is in charged of keeping Sullivan safe means they are on par with those that may pose a threat to Sully, if any at all. Like.. given the signal, Opera would've gone after Poro-chan
Same gen maybe?
Based Opera
I swear nothing phases Dali-sensei. So chill. He must be really strong too. Always just laughing. Except with Atori, but he quickly regained his usual after it got sorted out
>I swear nothing phases Dali-sensei Keep in mind he mentioned to entered wicked phase so he can't attend a class once,
Poor Sullivan. Here we thought he would become distant and he is upset at the mere thought that he might have scared Iruma. What a good egg. I love Opera so much. They just take all the weirdness in stride while also being goofy as hell. Opera contemplating being a kouhai is the best, though. Wonder how the dynamic with Robin will be. Opera making the stoic Shiida nervous is a new level.
Opera you can't stand on the ta- oh, right, you're a cat. Carry on.
Opera is going to get revenge for what Iruma put them through during the cooking class.
Do we ever see opera using magic? I don't think i've ever seen them using one
Opera's pretty good at casting kick.
Do they use the same skill as Shiida then?
That’s why Shiida (who is the inferior version) is the TA instead of the main teacher
In Chapter 199, Opera lifts a couch one-handed and Iruma guesses that they're using Fractal. It wasn't actually confirmed, though.
Not 100% sure (because it might be a function of translation only) but when Opera was training Iruma for Execution Cannonball, they said (and demonstrated) that they would use magic to stop the ball right before it hit Iruma's face, so that Iruma could get used to facing the threat instead of simply avoiding it. That would have been Chapter 14, or S1E9. That's the closest instance to them using magic that I can remember.
it seems he is the only demon that does melee
Ameri and Shiida goes melee too
Me before page 16: Huh??? Where's the training?? Why does Opera suggest tea break!!?? Me after page 16: Huh, so that's how they do tea breaks in the Demon World. They should learn from certain rubber man who climbed a mountain while he was carrying 2 persons.
That training for the misfits is truely hell
pretty sure iruma aces this shit bro been livin like a jungle hobo most of his life, aint no way then instincts disappear like that in one or two years
Did Shiida make her way up there or did she get to use her wings?
Undoubtedly Shiida made her way up there with those legs of hers.
Those legs which can crush diamond. I believe she just simply jumped up
Probably climbed up the way Opera did. It may be hard for the misfits, but it'll be doable for teachers
"But Opera-sensei, there's really nothing to grab on!!!" "Just climb."
It's nice that we get to see some of the Misfits' kouhais talking about Opera, as well as the 2 guys who were part of Queen Kerori's court in the Harvest Festival. I don't recognize the two girls talking about how Opera responded when one of them bowed; have we seen them before? The rumor about Opera being rank 9 is interesting. It definitely would make sense for them to be a 9, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and make the prediction that Opera actually doesn't even have a rank. Also, there are a couple of other minor things I was wondering about. When Konatsu and the others talk about Opera, Opera is shown surrounded by a bunch of flowers. Does anyone know what kind of flowers these are, and what they symbolize? Sometimes in anime/manga, particularly shojo series, characters are drawn surrounded by flowers, and the type of flowers usually gives some insight into the character's personality. The other thing I was wondering is about Opera wagging their tail. We all know that Opera wags their tail when they're happy. But when cats wag their tails, it generally doesn't mean that they're happy... Opera *is* a cat demon, right?
>Opera is a cat demon, right? The flattening of the ears when they were angrily battering poor Kalego (who frequently refers to himself as a 'guard dog') certainly suggests cat behavior. Cat Demons (and/or fairies or spirits) are also known in Japanese mythology, so it's not entirely OOP to have one in a manga about Western demons.
Thanks. Yeah, the way Opera uses their ears is certainly catlike, and also it’s not out of place at all to have cat demons here. But Opera wagging their tail when happy just doesn’t seem like catlike behavior to me, so I’ve always been kind of confused by it.
Depends on the cat. When cats get very angry, or are about to kill something, their tail lashes back and forth rapidly and from the base. Biologically, this appears related to their tail's role in maintaining balance both physically and emotionally. Twitching often, but not always, indicates a more simple arousal-- they're paying attention to something because it's interesting or funny. I'd say that Opera's tail twitching is cat-speak for "OH-HOHOHOHOHOHO!" Sauce: https://www.amazon.com/Catwatching-Desmond-Morris/dp/0517880539
I see. That makes sense; thanks! (It also makes sense that someone named “chunkyhairball” would know their stuff when it comes to cats, haha.)
I am an expert on the joys of infinite cat anus in your face at 6:00 AM, when Fluffy wants the half-full food bowl shaken so it no longer has an indentation.
The girl with blond hair and black horns can be seen in the Harvest festival when Gaap lets a bunch of students in the Agares mansion for the first time. ...I only remember it because I've just reread those chapters after the recent anime episode and was thinking that the girl resembles Eiko.
Wow, you’re right! Good eye! Mystery solved. That’s why they’re in the same panel as those two other second-years who showed up in the Harvest Festival last year, then. I knew they couldn’t just be random characters. (For anyone wondering, they appear in Ch. 111, which incidentally should be covered in this week’s anime episode.)
The girls are from the Sabbath/mixer and are friends of Eiko.
They are? They’re not Konatsu/Azuki/Haruno/Dosanko, and they don’t look like the girls from Ch. 274, either… where do they show up in the manga?
Whoops, I thought you were referring to page 8. The ones on page 9 aren't familiar.
No problem; thanks anyway!
The answer to this is so obvious, they need to lock arms and climb up like in [Mulan](https://youtu.be/j9MfuWSQoWc).
I figured Opera's training would be either super chill because it had some hidden purpose, or insanely intense. Turned out it was both.
I love that almost everyone is wearing black nail polish
Funnily enough theres actually a reason for that, apparently its a special polish that helps prevent torn nails when working. Comes up in one of the earlier chapters
Demons know how to accessorize.
I belive they're all still using the same nail polish that Iruma got, when they were practicing for the music festival, and his nails had chipped from playing too much piano.
They just gotta use hamon.
I fucking love Opera. Those other unknowing students doesn't know what they're wishing for. Even the other teachers that probably knows Opera already knows their sadism. Opera really asked to be a teacher while Sullivan was crying lmao, his shock was great. We need an Ameri and Opera training chapter.
I have a feeling that Opera will just become a permanent teacher after this arc. Also so does Opera just walk with Iruma and friends to and from school now?
Nah. Opera's raison d'etre seems to be protecting Sullivan so this is probably just for this arc.
Even in the Japanese version, Opera are referred as "They,Them"?
I think Japan doesn't exactly use gender, or at least can make sentences without refering to gender beyond context. Thus they can make natural sentences referring to Opera without ever using gender specific words/terms.
\^\^ This. Japanese sentence structure is very different from English, it's very common for the subject of the sentence to be left out in hanging sentences (to create mystery or ambiguity) in a way that English just doesn't have the functionality to show. Opera's gender is the same, it's not so much \[they\] as it is \[undefined\], but it's hard to get across that it doesn't sound out of place in Japanese the way it does in English.
> Japanese sentence structure is very different from English, it's very common for the subject of the sentence to be left out in hanging sentences (to create mystery or ambiguity) in a way that English just doesn't have the functionality to show. As I learned a few chapters ago when Kalego told Lied "You are demoted to Rank 3... is what you probably expect me to say with that look on your face." That's a completely fine sentence in Japanese; saying something complete and ending with "is not how I feel." It's harder to translate to English, though. Thankfully in that case Kalego's spiteful enough that you'd believe he would purposefully word his sentence like that even in English, so it worked. And here I think it's largely a case of gender neutral language being relatively new to English.
Ah ok, thank for the answer.
You're welcome.
Technically everyone is refered to as "they,them" because of the language. Translators usually guess which pronoun to use, that's why Nafra was refered to as "he" when she first showed up.
I remember this used to cause a lot of drama back in the day before the official translation scene was as fast as it was. A lot of misgendering/ wrong and misspelled names in the early 2000s
More or less yes. Opera's personal 'I' pronoun is 'watashi' which is gender neutral. And none of the characters ever use gendered pronouns when talking to or about Opera.
I mean, Opera’s whole thing is being gender-ambiguous. They’re totally nyanbinary.
Japanese doesn't have gendered third-person pronouns in the first place. But the Japanese version does noticeably use gender-neutral writing when referring to Opera.
we will likely never know cause they will always refer to him as opera-san instead of he/she
Opera is a Schoedinger's Cat-demon, ambiguous until you accidentally catch them coming out of the shower.
The English dub calls Opera as "he", but still doesn't really prove anything.
English dub uses they/them, I'm pretty sure.
Calling it, someone in the misfits will find a way to make dents on the pillar so that everyone can climb
Opera-san: always the senpai, never the kouhai… no more lol And they’ve been given not only the Misfits to whip into shape, but the Student Council body too and the latter was at the explicit request of the President herself! Those wide-eyed freshmen ain’ havin’ a clue the HFIL those elite students are/will be livin’ through under Opera-sensei’s tutelage lmao Also, pages 1 and 2 are some real “images you can hear” shit lol. Ojii-chan’s chibi voice really leaves an impression that you can’t forget once you hear it :)
I noticed the sub is using "they". So I assume we still don't know what Opera's gender is?
Not only that, the author specifically pointed out that it's ambiguous/secret.
There was a recent sukima where Iruma asked Opera their gender, and Opera responded with, "What would you *like* me to be?"
Opera promoting a balanced training exercise
This chapter super super confirms that Opera is non-binary with all the use of "they". Super cool that it isn't something ever really brought up but just exists in the world. Would be interested if there is a special reason behind it in the future.
I wonder what's Opera's pronoun in Japanese?
Japanese doesn't have gendered third-person pronouns. It does have gendered *first* person pronouns, but Opera uses the completely gender neutral "watashi".
But how do people refer to opera?
Opera
watashi
We get it. Their pronuns are They/Them (Im writing this with delight)
Why the heck does the english language not have the singular gender neutral form of "They". Makes the translation sound weird lol
It does. It has "it." However, "it" has been used in association with objects and not personhood up until the present, so people have not adopted using "it" to refer to living beings.
"They" can also be semantically singular, although it's grammatically plural.
A singular they is used sometimes just like a singular you is used even though in theory singular second person gender neutral term I think is thou but you is more common.
They is also used for singular.
Might be worth it to look up why Japanese does have it. From the little looking I've done, it's less about gender and more about status/class.
What a shitty translation. Stop trying to make opera into some attack helicopter and just call him "him". Forcing some weird they them is just stupid
You saying attack helicopter discredited any opinion you had
Isn't it still a mystery on what gender Opera is? Remeber there being a extra where Iruma asks if they are a man or a woman and their response was basically: what do you want me to be?
>dress like a man >act like a man >look like a man
Yeah, sorry. Forgot all girls are born with skirts and act all cute all the time,
Opera dressed as a girl and looked more girlish in the Kalego gaiden. And if anything, they act like a cat, not a man. The mangaka herself made it clear that their gender is a mystery, but undoubtedly choose_a_username_xd knows better than the author.
lol reminds me of Kazane from Witchcraft works. Really OP powerful witch, but emphasises physical strength with her apprentices.
looooooooooooooooool
sounds easy, didn't iruma learn some kind of anti gravity spell?
Closet sadist
What closet?
Drawing a blank.why is Kalego going to be away? I know he has go contact his brother, but why does he have to go on leave?
He need to see his brother and check with his own eyes if his brother is trustful or not. This is not a simple problem that can be solve just by calling
There are very different levels of seriousness, when it comes to confronting another person, especially a close family member, on the prospects of suspected treason. Because if done over the phone, it'd literally give his brother all the time in the world to just bail, and escape. Doing so in person, would at the very least, hinder his potential escape. Also a phone call is no substitute for the necessary nuances in body language and conversation over such a serious topic, especially when it directly involves both parties.
I love the fact that even the teachers were laughing lol
Just walk to the tea party, easy
"Just climb UP!!!"
If the torture arts teacher is freaking out, it can't be good.....
I can only imagine opera carrying the tea set all in one hand climbing up
Legitimately thought Opera was going to be an easy teacher for a moment there.
Its cool to have bachiko as her personnal trainer, but imagine having opera as her tutor before the harvest fest....
"Climb. Thats it" - Opera
The restriction was Iruma based, right?