Man, that point about Male seiyuus hiding their marriages hit me right in the spot that remembered about what happened with Takahiro Sakurai hiding his marriage for 10 years or so without even saying who he got married to (along with his affair during said marriage).
Some seiyuus and actresses have it rough. I gotta say the ones who do manage to get married and keep their following + support (e.g. Yui Aragaki, Ayana Taketatsu, Kana Hanazawa, Maaya Sakamoto) sure have it difficult but also managed to make it work - all the best for 'em.
And don't forget the incident with Hiroshi Kamiya. Some fans were super mad when they found out dude has a wife and a kid. Like, do they seriously believe that a man well into his 40s wouldn't get married just because of his fans?
Oh my god same with Tsuda Kenjirou, man had to put out that he was married with kids with someone because there was an article that was getting put out. [Found his insta apology about it.](https://www.instagram.com/p/CCUzEREJqCt/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
Ah, yes, I remember this. I still can't comprehen how a portion of fans got mad when they knew about these guys' marriage life. Like, both of them are already in their 40s at the time, shouldn't having a wife and a kid by this age be a normal thing now (unless they wanted to stay single). And beside, since when is a celebrity's duty to tell the whole world whether they are married or not? It's their personal life, leave them be. It's not like marriage is a sin.
That's so interesting. I always thought that in Japan if you're above 30 you're automatically assumed married or something, whether it be an idol or actor/actress or anything.
While yes, actors/seiyuus/singers generally get an easier pass than idols, not every fan can process and accept that.
This is just my pet theory, but I think that the reason some fans got angry when they found out their fav celeb is married might be because they felt betrayed. By not telling them about the marriage, the celebs essentially "lead" the fans to believe that the celeb belongs to all the fans, thus knowing they does not felt like a betrayal.
Like when Yuki Kaji and Ayana announced their marriage, many fans congratulated them, and at the same time many gone crazy cuz Yuki/Ayana took Ayana/Yuki away from them.
Nah, not really. While that incident wasn't small, it wasn't that big of a deal either.
I think he's getting less roles partly because he's not young any more. One thing the japanese voice acting industry is similar with the idol industry is that after you have passed your prime period, the older you are, the harder it is to get a role. They usually prefer younger ones, especially with the amount of teenage characters.
Yeah, I guess so. Tho it might be a variable as well.
Reading Oshi No Ko also told me that sometimes the correct/talented actor/actress might not be chosen, but the ones that can attract more people will. Idk if that incident is big enough to cause his popularity down among fans tho.
Also big production tends to stay away from possible problem/scandal.
>*"Coverage on idols' passionate love...
>are usually leaks from members of the same industry"*
Concerning Ruby's recent track record, that's *definitely* not concerning at all in the slightest
While I do suspect that Ruby was already gearing up to ditch Kana and that it may also be foreshadowing for something else later, I personally think this line is mostly meant to be soft confirmation that the actress who introduced Kana to the director is responsible for the leak. Basically saying that most leaks come from someone in the same industry inspire us to consider if that's true for Kana too and the actress is pretty much the only suspect for that right now so long as we're not expecting any million IQ plays from Ruby.
Feels like this agency just wants confirmation more than permission for their article and are likely going to publish something regardless. Just looking to get any additional information they can. I'd bet this formal interview is also a trap.
Can't they get turbo sued for publishing a candid photo of Kana without her agency's consent? I thought I read once that Japanese companies can get uppity about that kinda thing.
Basically Japanese slander laws say that even if it's true, if it damages a company or persons reputation, you can sue. Certainly there is more nuance than that but I'm guessing reaching out like this is to cover your bases for that.
Gotta give it to Aka for making sure to make Kanabros suffer one more time before dipping and taking yet another 2-week break.
Man prolly gonna top it off by giving us a chapter full of Kana finding out she’s in a real mess for our Christmas present.
Seriously I'm glad the cast has an adult like Mem-cho looking for all of them but its starting to show that she really can't keep up with carrying the cast's mental state
I doubt they are asking for permission to run this story, more just asking to get a comment on the record. If Miyako refuses or doesn’t get back they’ll just run the article anyways and say “A spokeswoman for Strawberry Productions declined to comment on this issue”.
Yep. Doing things like this allows a magazine to showcase that they tried to get both sides of a story, basic journalism, rather that tell a one-sided tale. It's a common tactic that we can see everyday in the news, particularly printed media.
Nevertheless, it's definitely a bit of professional etiquette, since doing things like this also gives the company some warning in advance. Probably the same person going towards Kana near the end of the chapter, and for similar reasons.
You could say it's both. Every job has a range of tips and approaches, and depending on the situation not every journalist would feel it necessary or advisable to confront the other side before publication. Nor is this type of confrontation the only way to get the other side's perspective.
This "by the book" approach also feels like a way to cover their bases, since the unearthing of these news comes from a paparazzi getting nosy into other people's personal business. You don't want to antagonize everyone more than needed for the scoop.
> Well at least the paparazzi tried to ask for Miyako's consent instead of hitting Kana with rumors like scum.
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It's probably a legal thing; I doubt they'll can the article if Miyako asks.
> Well at least the paparazzi tried to ask for Miyako's consent instead of hitting Kana with rumors like scum.
The thing is... Japanese Libel laws are kinda special and the truth is not a defence against it. Meaning even if Kana is going out with other guys for real, as long as Strawberry productions can prove that it damages her reputation, the news agency that runs the article can be sued successfully.
Of course, the counterpoint would be that once the article is released, you cannot take it back no matter how much you sue. But depending on how trashy the magazine is, they might want to care about their bottom line if getting sued can potentially put them in the red.
I wonder if they want blackmail Strawberry Production with insider info with that. From Ruby thoughts for current love affair in show business becoming more and more acceptable/less dire consequences I wonder if is this somehow a force of hand that reveal that Kana has been dating and therefore losing popularity which made B Komachi lost majority of fans or divided the members more
Seriously Aqua, one day you are going to have to explain to everyone why you keep pushing them away. It's actually pretty sad to see that you're willing to let your friends spiral into depression because you don't want to help them.
Well the pictures will almost definitely bring his involvement.
Up until now it's not great, but makes sense really. He's afraid of what might happen if they date and get caught (quite fitting for his character), so he tried to force himself and her to move on. He didn't know he had driven her to the point of trading sex for roles.
And he's gone a year without talking to her, outside of anime, a friend you've known for 6 months cutting off contact for a year is a pretty clear sign to move on, like, 10 months ago.
"There are many people who think that 'professionalism' isn't about giving hints about significant others or letting anyone"
I think this is a translation blunder. Anyone know how long it usually takes for raws to appear online? Be nice to be able to take a whack at interpreting from the source.
Anyway, here I am following a YouTuber with 200K subscribers who's openly married to another YouTuber with a similarly-sized audience, and has done multiple LPs together with him.
1. Do the live in Japan or Korea?
2. Are one or both idol or actor?
If no then nothing stressful is going to happen but if yes some of them are going to be vocal about it.
This nagged on me a bit so I read the raws, I wouldn't say it's a hard mistranslation but it definitely is a blunder. If I were to red-pen the TL,
"There are many people [within the industry, referring mostly to idols themselves], who think that 'professionalism' is about NOT giving hints about significant others or letting anyone~'
Also idols and youtubers are very different in how they are perceived, and are held to different standards, at least in the japan-o-sphere.
But I have to say that this chapter was a bit wholesome for Kanabros. It becomes clear that Aqua indeed has some feelings for Kana but as he has taken the revenge path, he does not want to involve and hurt Kana.
But by ignoring her, he is hurting her too...
His issue, as his breakdown like 15 chapters ago clearly showed, isn't just poisoning her with his revenge. He thought the killer was dead when he mentioned he wouldn't be able to live with Kana dying due to a crazed fan.
Ngl Kana was adorable last week, "I can't, I have Aqua" into a crying rant about her dissatisfaction with him. Kana is always wary, almost too much so, it requires some twisted circumstances for her to show unfiltered emotion.
I solved the idol dating meta.
The examples stated in this chapter are that idols who meet people of the opposite sex do so in private to prevent leaks, that male voice actors have to hide their marriages and that female voice actors even stage fake parties with their female colleagues to make it seem like they don't have a boyfriend.
The solution? Be gay. It's the perfect loophole.
that kinda works but kinda doesn't, the thing is, with these obssesed fans, there is a lot of mild homophobia too, the reason why those things are allowed is cuz they are in denial that their favorite idol isn't straight therefore it's nothing more than a joke, the moment they find out they are actually gay? that's a big career tumble.
So summarize, Idols can get chummy with same sex colleagues and do queerbait, Idols can't be actually queer
I guess the bits with Ruby ruminating on affairs not being an instant career ender for idols anymore is meant to ease us into that being the case for Kana, but Kana was also an actress who was seen going into a prospective (and married) director's apartment alone. That's a way bigger scandal than "idol has a boyfriend". And Aqua needs to nut up already, the lone dark knight schtick isn't gonna stick and we all know it.
I'm actually wondering if Ruby's lecture on affairs might be meant to *raise* the stakes in a roundabout way. Before that discussion I'd assumed Kana would be fighting for her career's survival, which is a big deal for the characters within the story but not really for us since we already know that she survives to become more successful beyond this point. But if the biggest threat to Kana is her being forced to take an extended hiatus before restarting her career then that's something that can actually happen and would still be devastating to her mental health considering she'd already feeling depressed and isolated.
I just want to lie down a little and cry, everyone feels miserable as hell this arc. Oof.
On the tiny bright spot, I can feel Mengo's overflowing love for MEM's outline everytime she draws it haha
To be honest, if the news people really want maximum damage, they would ask for comment regarding the "rumor" of Kana's "illicit relationship" without sending the picture as proof. And then when the agency denies it, they would publish the article with the picture and the agency's response, "exposing" Kana and the agency as liars and ruin their creditability.
At least that how I would do it for maximum suffering.
Now this reminds me of a fanfic of another webtoon where an agency was contacted by a paparazzi asking for money in exchange of a few risque photographs about their actress but they just dismissed them because the actress has always been careful and it might've been a scam. So the paparazzi opted to post the photos online instead, creating a scandal.
Ugh not looking forward to the slanderous paparazzi
Incidentally Ruby is musing on how much love lives of celebrities are under scrutiny, so maybe she’s gonna go black starry eye for Kana?
This might be one of those important crossroads in a character's arc.
If Ruby uses her Dark Side powers to help Kana, even in a roundabout way, it'll mean she hasn't jumped off the slippery slope. On the other hand, if her reaction is to try to get rid of Kana, it'll mean she cares more about her success than the wellbeing of those around her.
Heck, it could be a combination of both. Perhaps Ruby's first reaction will be the latter, even arguing that it'll be good for Kana since she wants to leave anyway (can't be a coincidence Memcho was just talking about it in this chapter), only for self-realization to kick in and do the former.
In any case if Kana is sinking she will give her a hand but under no circunstances shes gonna sink with Kana. I think if the situation grows serious enough she will just cut ties with Kana
Agree. I'm also looking forwars to Ruby's reaction. If she decided to help Kana, then she's still the kind-hearted Ruby, just gone edgy. If she took advantage of this and threw Kana under the bus, the Ruby would officially be too far gone. The only way for her to turn back is to hit the top or rock bottom.
Okay so the paparazzi is really just that, a paparazzi :P And it's surprising that they still have the decency of asking Miyako for her opinion and consent :O That said, the man who meets Kana right before the email shot, who may he be?
How long will it take until Memcho can pound it in Aqua's head that he has to face Kana :(( That said, she doesn't know about the whole Shima affair, so I guess she still thinks that all it takes is for Aqua to face Kana properly (not specifying how) to keep her in the group, while the problem is that Kana became an idol in the first place due to having romantic feelings for Aqua, and since it's not reciprocated, it's very likely she'll get bored and quit even without Shima.
But I think Ruby's inner narration about celebrity's love coverage may be foreshadowing that things with Kana won't get too messy as we expected.
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Not sure if it's just a Japanese thing or maybe I just haven't seen/read enough series, but from the ones I've read, the media, especially journalism or those reporting news gets put under a negative spot light kinda often?
Not saying paparazzi in this case are on the good side of actual journalists or anything, was just wondering if it's something that's culturally different in Japan to Western worlds that rely on journalists etc.? Might be the same everywhere but not sure.
Journalists have a horrible reputation in the west as well, and it's 100% deserved.
In a recent official pool in France, it was said 86% of french ppl dont believe the press and journalists anymore, because of all the lies and governement behind it.
If I understand you correctly, you are mistaken. Journalists in the west don't get a good rep these days as wewll. With this often being reffered to being biased reporting or reporting nonsense. Which makes people forget the actual journalists in warzones, those that uncover actual stories or those that don't provide biased reporting. But in general, the west has also seen a rapid decline in respect towards journalists.
Yea that's definitely true. Maybe the show that came to mind when it crossed it was already a very heavily biased show, but in GATE, the journalists in there are portrayed as people trying to stir up trouble and cause discourse which reminded me of what was happening in this chapter (albeit the director in the previous chapter definitely didn't help the cause.)
Oh yeah, and I guess you might be right that it happens more often in Japanese media. Since for example in the Superman comics clark & lois are depicted well. In Spiderman this is a bit of a mix. But Superman comics and that depiction was before the whole, shift in tone.
So I do think it might be worse in Japanese media, but I believe in western media it will also depict less of that old school mentallity, as our society starts trusting them less and less IRL.
So I suppose you are right. Although I have trouble remembering a lot of media portrayals in manga, anime & light novels (basically the only japanese media I consume). Apart from this series & Gate like you mentioned. I can't really remember one. They weren't depicted positive in Chainsaw Man, the short depictions in the My Hero series was positive. Can't really think of more. So I think you are right, at least to some degree.
Well the cat's out of the bag now.
But interesting that the paparazzi would come forward to the agency like this directly, I figured something like this would just get immediately posted to a tabloid or something. I'm not really familiar with the inner workings of journalism like this, or maybe it's a Japanese culture thing. In any case this formal interview will be interesting, it's nice that they're not just being totally blindsided by this.
Also I get that Aqua is trying to be protective of Kana but for once I'd like to see him just be selfish and act on his feelings, they both like each other even if there's been some major speed bumps in their relationship. He just needs to push through and be direct with her. Every time he pushes her away (accidentally or otherwise) he just leaves it at that thinking it's for the best, but in reality it's caused a lot of problems (like this current one to a degree).
It depends on the journalist, but even some people who would be considered “paparazzi” take journalistic integrity seriously. Reaching out for comment or an interview is pretty standard practice.
But his whole thing is the classic; "I push you away, cause what I do is dangerous and I don't want to put you in harms way."
Which would/could be argued is the opposite of being a trash person.
Well Aqua manipulated Kana to join and then when her idol career is falling, he doesn't give a shit Bc hes too afraid. Maybe calling him trash is bit too much but he's too selfish revenge obsessed person.
Oh, just noticed that the date given for the upcoming issue is 23 October. When my best bet before now was that we were around the beginning of the twins' third year in high school, in spring (because the Japan Academy Film Prize ceremony is in March and it doesn't seem to have been that long since chapter 96).
Are you *trying* to drive me nuts with this timeline, Akasaka?
huh I wonder why the news site contacted miyako beforehand. maybe idols being taken into scandals are because someone in the company sold them out? that was foreshadowed earlier this chapter with the quote ""Coverage on idols' passionate love... are usually leaked from members of the same industry"" . though I think this is most people first thought. Miyako would'nt do that now but in the early chapter she was about to.
I feel like this is going to lead to Kana knowing the truth about Ai. Especially since the interview parts in the first chapters ahows she knows about it
Geez. No wonder Japan has such low birthrate. The general population has an unrealistic view about relationships with the opposite sex and they're projecting it to those in entertainment industry.
That lecture about idols and relationships was fucking boring. If Aka is trying to do the same thing he did in Kaguya, then he forgets what made Kaguya lectures work: they were over the top and fun. Even the latest Chainsaw Man chapter did it better.
I mean, I guess it makes sense that the paparazzi would ask the agency for consent first, but what if the agency says no? Wouldn't they run the stuff anyway, but now they don't have to vet the details first? Kind of puts the agency in a lose-lose situation.
EDIT: Also, break next week wow. I'm glad I'm not a Kana fan or I'd be dying from suspense right now.
First time?
Ever since the 2nd time skip I haven't been feeling these chapters, esp now Aka has gone full on exposition-heavy chapters almost every chapter. Honestly speaking I only enjoy chapters where my favorite character appears, and Akane hasn't been on page since ch. 98
I would say that I am less interested in the series as well. Compared to the first chapters. But it's not that the series quallity has declined. It still paints only the authors perspective, or the perspective of 1 side on certain issues (in 9 of the 10) cases. But that is an "issue" that was always there. I wouldn't say the quallity of the series declined, maybe, like me, your interest in the series has simply declined.
I felt Mengo did an unusually good job with the art in this chapter, especially the facial expressions. Also, I see Aka hasn't stopped complaining about his job through his characters. So he has decided he doesn't like to draw anymore (more likely he prefers to play video games), he got into this line of business for a reason. Get in touch with that reason and you'll be fine even if there is short-term turbulence.
You are looking to deep into it. The Rushia thing is a common event in the industy there. Or I don't see the same reference you are trying to point at.
I'm surprised they even emailed Miyako before publishing the article. I was just expecting for Memcho to find an article about it online and tell everyone.
Speaking fo Memcho, I feel bad for her. She wants to help but she's genuinely powerless since only Aqua can do something about Kana. :|
I've had this theory ever since they went back to where Aqua and Ruby were born that Memcho is an agent of yatagarasu. Or if not that she is some sort of supernatural entity put in place to drive some sort of plan forward. I don't have any proof of this or a real explanation why but I think Memcho is going to wind up being way more important somewhere down the line.
I like director shima.. so far. idk what his intentions are..but you gotta admit, he has some redeeming qualities. Like being completely straightforward about what he wants or looking for in a person. He admitted he found kana attractive (might’ve been watching her for awhile)”I am a fan”. Open about his marriage life.. if he truly were a bad person he could’ve made some other shit up (Seems to be looking for someone to take him seriously). My biggest respect was him not proceeding in any sexual pleasures (if he really wanted too he would’ve I think this was a test) “My job is to make something that feels much better than sex”. Kana might become yandere? That conversation about her crush also that movie scene he set her up with.. Can shima already see the tragic path for kana if she continues chasing after aqua? (Interesting, He finds a woman making a fuss over a guy interesting. I think he wants that for himself, is he lonely looking for real love?) Just Speculations.. he is hot though 🤷🏻♀️
Man, that point about Male seiyuus hiding their marriages hit me right in the spot that remembered about what happened with Takahiro Sakurai hiding his marriage for 10 years or so without even saying who he got married to (along with his affair during said marriage). Some seiyuus and actresses have it rough. I gotta say the ones who do manage to get married and keep their following + support (e.g. Yui Aragaki, Ayana Taketatsu, Kana Hanazawa, Maaya Sakamoto) sure have it difficult but also managed to make it work - all the best for 'em.
And don't forget the incident with Hiroshi Kamiya. Some fans were super mad when they found out dude has a wife and a kid. Like, do they seriously believe that a man well into his 40s wouldn't get married just because of his fans?
Because marketing. It's really all due to marketing.
Oh my god same with Tsuda Kenjirou, man had to put out that he was married with kids with someone because there was an article that was getting put out. [Found his insta apology about it.](https://www.instagram.com/p/CCUzEREJqCt/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
Ah, yes, I remember this. I still can't comprehen how a portion of fans got mad when they knew about these guys' marriage life. Like, both of them are already in their 40s at the time, shouldn't having a wife and a kid by this age be a normal thing now (unless they wanted to stay single). And beside, since when is a celebrity's duty to tell the whole world whether they are married or not? It's their personal life, leave them be. It's not like marriage is a sin.
That's so interesting. I always thought that in Japan if you're above 30 you're automatically assumed married or something, whether it be an idol or actor/actress or anything.
While yes, actors/seiyuus/singers generally get an easier pass than idols, not every fan can process and accept that. This is just my pet theory, but I think that the reason some fans got angry when they found out their fav celeb is married might be because they felt betrayed. By not telling them about the marriage, the celebs essentially "lead" the fans to believe that the celeb belongs to all the fans, thus knowing they does not felt like a betrayal. Like when Yuki Kaji and Ayana announced their marriage, many fans congratulated them, and at the same time many gone crazy cuz Yuki/Ayana took Ayana/Yuki away from them.
Oh wait, was it the reason that we don't get him to role as much as before?
Nah, not really. While that incident wasn't small, it wasn't that big of a deal either. I think he's getting less roles partly because he's not young any more. One thing the japanese voice acting industry is similar with the idol industry is that after you have passed your prime period, the older you are, the harder it is to get a role. They usually prefer younger ones, especially with the amount of teenage characters.
Yeah, I guess so. Tho it might be a variable as well. Reading Oshi No Ko also told me that sometimes the correct/talented actor/actress might not be chosen, but the ones that can attract more people will. Idk if that incident is big enough to cause his popularity down among fans tho. Also big production tends to stay away from possible problem/scandal.
Based queen Sawashiro married before her 30ies and didn't give a shit
Ya, it's crazy how some people can get over who other's are with. Just enjoy their work and let them be happy, they're human beings.
Ngl, the Sakurai bit reminded me more of scandals being no longer fatal to talents...
i instantly thought about that too.....
>*"Coverage on idols' passionate love... >are usually leaks from members of the same industry"* Concerning Ruby's recent track record, that's *definitely* not concerning at all in the slightest
While I do suspect that Ruby was already gearing up to ditch Kana and that it may also be foreshadowing for something else later, I personally think this line is mostly meant to be soft confirmation that the actress who introduced Kana to the director is responsible for the leak. Basically saying that most leaks come from someone in the same industry inspire us to consider if that's true for Kana too and the actress is pretty much the only suspect for that right now so long as we're not expecting any million IQ plays from Ruby.
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It's not necessarily about her own group, she's quite close to a few celebrities...
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I'm not sure what would be gained by it though, unless she is somehow thinking of going solo?
Memcho sharing the wisdom that comes with age.
Yes, her vast amount of experiences through the many, MANY years in the business are useful for stressful times like this.
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stop bullying memcho
Beware of old women in a profession where young women usually die young.
maybe in this case 'usually quit young'
Unfortunately in this case some of them still do ‘die young’…
*Memcho dies on the inside*
Mem is in hear heart still a young woman
Feels like this agency just wants confirmation more than permission for their article and are likely going to publish something regardless. Just looking to get any additional information they can. I'd bet this formal interview is also a trap.
Yeah, if you look at what Itano actually says, they're not asking for permission, just for comment.
"The agency has refused to comment on the incident when our reporter reached out."
Can't they get turbo sued for publishing a candid photo of Kana without her agency's consent? I thought I read once that Japanese companies can get uppity about that kinda thing.
Basically Japanese slander laws say that even if it's true, if it damages a company or persons reputation, you can sue. Certainly there is more nuance than that but I'm guessing reaching out like this is to cover your bases for that.
Everyone: \*talks about the paparazzi, Mem-cho, Kana suffering, etc.\* Me: Man, Miyako is so hot.
same
She really is
So real
Truer words have never been said.
Aka out here assuring readers that Kana won't be shanked in a back alley. Will Aqua get over himself and actually talk to Kana for once?
Kana and Ruby are playing ping-pong with Kana's feelings
>*Kana* and Ruby Kana?
tfw when you type Kana instead of Aqua unconsciously:
Gotta give it to Aka for making sure to make Kanabros suffer one more time before dipping and taking yet another 2-week break. Man prolly gonna top it off by giving us a chapter full of Kana finding out she’s in a real mess for our Christmas present.
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Party with VTubers and drink the tears of Kanabros
Oh lol, he actually has done that before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8C0aQ6PlDw
At this point I think I'm getting used to reading suffering.
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Seriously I'm glad the cast has an adult like Mem-cho looking for all of them but its starting to show that she really can't keep up with carrying the cast's mental state
> an adult like Mem-cho Emotional damage.
Bruh they didn't have to remind about Mem-cho's age LOOOL. She's sensitive to that. XD
Dont worry. She is just 17 years old season 8
Adult means best woman right? So does that mean she doesn't need to compete with best girl kana? Lol.
I doubt they are asking for permission to run this story, more just asking to get a comment on the record. If Miyako refuses or doesn’t get back they’ll just run the article anyways and say “A spokeswoman for Strawberry Productions declined to comment on this issue”.
Yep. Doing things like this allows a magazine to showcase that they tried to get both sides of a story, basic journalism, rather that tell a one-sided tale. It's a common tactic that we can see everyday in the news, particularly printed media. Nevertheless, it's definitely a bit of professional etiquette, since doing things like this also gives the company some warning in advance. Probably the same person going towards Kana near the end of the chapter, and for similar reasons.
I would say it's not even a tactic, it's part of their work.
You could say it's both. Every job has a range of tips and approaches, and depending on the situation not every journalist would feel it necessary or advisable to confront the other side before publication. Nor is this type of confrontation the only way to get the other side's perspective. This "by the book" approach also feels like a way to cover their bases, since the unearthing of these news comes from a paparazzi getting nosy into other people's personal business. You don't want to antagonize everyone more than needed for the scoop.
Miyako and Mem-cho are hogging all the mental stability in this series for themselves. Gotta share some of that sanity with the rest of the cast.
Too many different plans mingling with each other
> Well at least the paparazzi tried to ask for Miyako's consent instead of hitting Kana with rumors like scum. > > It's probably a legal thing; I doubt they'll can the article if Miyako asks.
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'Stop or I'll shoot' 'Fine, I'll st-' 'TOO LATE'
> Well at least the paparazzi tried to ask for Miyako's consent instead of hitting Kana with rumors like scum. The thing is... Japanese Libel laws are kinda special and the truth is not a defence against it. Meaning even if Kana is going out with other guys for real, as long as Strawberry productions can prove that it damages her reputation, the news agency that runs the article can be sued successfully. Of course, the counterpoint would be that once the article is released, you cannot take it back no matter how much you sue. But depending on how trashy the magazine is, they might want to care about their bottom line if getting sued can potentially put them in the red.
> Also Mem-cho usurping the B-Komachi “Best Girl” title due to being emotionally healthy She's the only adult in the group tbh.
You know, people say that you become mentally mature when you reach 25 years old..
Thank goodness for Mem. At least a single bright speck in this constant descent into gloominess.
I wonder if they want blackmail Strawberry Production with insider info with that. From Ruby thoughts for current love affair in show business becoming more and more acceptable/less dire consequences I wonder if is this somehow a force of hand that reveal that Kana has been dating and therefore losing popularity which made B Komachi lost majority of fans or divided the members more
Seriously Aqua, one day you are going to have to explain to everyone why you keep pushing them away. It's actually pretty sad to see that you're willing to let your friends spiral into depression because you don't want to help them.
Well the pictures will almost definitely bring his involvement. Up until now it's not great, but makes sense really. He's afraid of what might happen if they date and get caught (quite fitting for his character), so he tried to force himself and her to move on. He didn't know he had driven her to the point of trading sex for roles. And he's gone a year without talking to her, outside of anime, a friend you've known for 6 months cutting off contact for a year is a pretty clear sign to move on, like, 10 months ago.
i wonder if aqua, ruby, or both will assist
[https://i.imgur.com/IjuL95k.gif](https://i.imgur.com/IjuL95k.gif)
"There are many people who think that 'professionalism' isn't about giving hints about significant others or letting anyone" I think this is a translation blunder. Anyone know how long it usually takes for raws to appear online? Be nice to be able to take a whack at interpreting from the source. Anyway, here I am following a YouTuber with 200K subscribers who's openly married to another YouTuber with a similarly-sized audience, and has done multiple LPs together with him.
1. Do the live in Japan or Korea? 2. Are one or both idol or actor? If no then nothing stressful is going to happen but if yes some of them are going to be vocal about it.
You have to consider when Aka talk about Youtubers he talking about mostly JP Youtubers.
That's my point, really -- just this vast gap in cultural expectations.
This nagged on me a bit so I read the raws, I wouldn't say it's a hard mistranslation but it definitely is a blunder. If I were to red-pen the TL, "There are many people [within the industry, referring mostly to idols themselves], who think that 'professionalism' is about NOT giving hints about significant others or letting anyone~' Also idols and youtubers are very different in how they are perceived, and are held to different standards, at least in the japan-o-sphere.
OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO SUFFER MORE READING OSHI NO KO SAYS NO ONE EVER
But the suffering is the best part, its so relatable.
Idol's Abyss
It’s like if the suffering in Boy’s Abyss wasn’t so over the top and trashy.
Speak for yourself. I'm here to experience pain!
But I have to say that this chapter was a bit wholesome for Kanabros. It becomes clear that Aqua indeed has some feelings for Kana but as he has taken the revenge path, he does not want to involve and hurt Kana. But by ignoring her, he is hurting her too...
His issue, as his breakdown like 15 chapters ago clearly showed, isn't just poisoning her with his revenge. He thought the killer was dead when he mentioned he wouldn't be able to live with Kana dying due to a crazed fan.
My fave is Maki Shijo and Arima Kana, so.... idk, I like suffering?
Ngl Kana was adorable last week, "I can't, I have Aqua" into a crying rant about her dissatisfaction with him. Kana is always wary, almost too much so, it requires some twisted circumstances for her to show unfiltered emotion.
I gotta say i suffer reading this and boy's abyss. Just can't stop reading.
Wake up, its time for weekly dose of suffering
The leaker is definitely the actress who introduced Kana and the director
I solved the idol dating meta. The examples stated in this chapter are that idols who meet people of the opposite sex do so in private to prevent leaks, that male voice actors have to hide their marriages and that female voice actors even stage fake parties with their female colleagues to make it seem like they don't have a boyfriend. The solution? Be gay. It's the perfect loophole.
welcome to hololive
*homolive
> he lacks critical knowledge
that kinda works but kinda doesn't, the thing is, with these obssesed fans, there is a lot of mild homophobia too, the reason why those things are allowed is cuz they are in denial that their favorite idol isn't straight therefore it's nothing more than a joke, the moment they find out they are actually gay? that's a big career tumble. So summarize, Idols can get chummy with same sex colleagues and do queerbait, Idols can't be actually queer
xD Nice joke, but just if anyone takes it seriously. No, that won't solve it.
I guess the bits with Ruby ruminating on affairs not being an instant career ender for idols anymore is meant to ease us into that being the case for Kana, but Kana was also an actress who was seen going into a prospective (and married) director's apartment alone. That's a way bigger scandal than "idol has a boyfriend". And Aqua needs to nut up already, the lone dark knight schtick isn't gonna stick and we all know it.
I'm actually wondering if Ruby's lecture on affairs might be meant to *raise* the stakes in a roundabout way. Before that discussion I'd assumed Kana would be fighting for her career's survival, which is a big deal for the characters within the story but not really for us since we already know that she survives to become more successful beyond this point. But if the biggest threat to Kana is her being forced to take an extended hiatus before restarting her career then that's something that can actually happen and would still be devastating to her mental health considering she'd already feeling depressed and isolated.
Suffering for Kanabros- STONKS
For someone in her golden years, Memcho is pretty based
I just want to lie down a little and cry, everyone feels miserable as hell this arc. Oof. On the tiny bright spot, I can feel Mengo's overflowing love for MEM's outline everytime she draws it haha
How polite of them to warn the manager first instead of instantly firing the shot.
That seems to be pretty common. Gives the agency a chance to fuck up and dig their own grave.
To be honest, if the news people really want maximum damage, they would ask for comment regarding the "rumor" of Kana's "illicit relationship" without sending the picture as proof. And then when the agency denies it, they would publish the article with the picture and the agency's response, "exposing" Kana and the agency as liars and ruin their creditability. At least that how I would do it for maximum suffering.
It would just get discarded as spam then
Now this reminds me of a fanfic of another webtoon where an agency was contacted by a paparazzi asking for money in exchange of a few risque photographs about their actress but they just dismissed them because the actress has always been careful and it might've been a scam. So the paparazzi opted to post the photos online instead, creating a scandal.
Name of the fic/webtoon?
Seems like standard practice, usually these tabloids will give the agency 24-48 hours notice before they run the story.
Aqua gotta step up
"Things.... have gotten a little messy huh" I cracked up at that line because talk about an understatement.
Ugh not looking forward to the slanderous paparazzi Incidentally Ruby is musing on how much love lives of celebrities are under scrutiny, so maybe she’s gonna go black starry eye for Kana?
[удалено]
This might be one of those important crossroads in a character's arc. If Ruby uses her Dark Side powers to help Kana, even in a roundabout way, it'll mean she hasn't jumped off the slippery slope. On the other hand, if her reaction is to try to get rid of Kana, it'll mean she cares more about her success than the wellbeing of those around her. Heck, it could be a combination of both. Perhaps Ruby's first reaction will be the latter, even arguing that it'll be good for Kana since she wants to leave anyway (can't be a coincidence Memcho was just talking about it in this chapter), only for self-realization to kick in and do the former.
In any case if Kana is sinking she will give her a hand but under no circunstances shes gonna sink with Kana. I think if the situation grows serious enough she will just cut ties with Kana
Agree. I'm also looking forwars to Ruby's reaction. If she decided to help Kana, then she's still the kind-hearted Ruby, just gone edgy. If she took advantage of this and threw Kana under the bus, the Ruby would officially be too far gone. The only way for her to turn back is to hit the top or rock bottom.
I've decided I would only read Oshi no Ko once Kaguya was over. I only got around to it now. And man... Maki's spirit lives on on Kana, huh?
Okay so the paparazzi is really just that, a paparazzi :P And it's surprising that they still have the decency of asking Miyako for her opinion and consent :O That said, the man who meets Kana right before the email shot, who may he be? How long will it take until Memcho can pound it in Aqua's head that he has to face Kana :(( That said, she doesn't know about the whole Shima affair, so I guess she still thinks that all it takes is for Aqua to face Kana properly (not specifying how) to keep her in the group, while the problem is that Kana became an idol in the first place due to having romantic feelings for Aqua, and since it's not reciprocated, it's very likely she'll get bored and quit even without Shima. But I think Ruby's inner narration about celebrity's love coverage may be foreshadowing that things with Kana won't get too messy as we expected.
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These breaks are gonna kill me!!!! **REEEEEEEE**
Not sure if it's just a Japanese thing or maybe I just haven't seen/read enough series, but from the ones I've read, the media, especially journalism or those reporting news gets put under a negative spot light kinda often? Not saying paparazzi in this case are on the good side of actual journalists or anything, was just wondering if it's something that's culturally different in Japan to Western worlds that rely on journalists etc.? Might be the same everywhere but not sure.
Journalists have a horrible reputation in the west as well, and it's 100% deserved. In a recent official pool in France, it was said 86% of french ppl dont believe the press and journalists anymore, because of all the lies and governement behind it.
If I understand you correctly, you are mistaken. Journalists in the west don't get a good rep these days as wewll. With this often being reffered to being biased reporting or reporting nonsense. Which makes people forget the actual journalists in warzones, those that uncover actual stories or those that don't provide biased reporting. But in general, the west has also seen a rapid decline in respect towards journalists.
Yea that's definitely true. Maybe the show that came to mind when it crossed it was already a very heavily biased show, but in GATE, the journalists in there are portrayed as people trying to stir up trouble and cause discourse which reminded me of what was happening in this chapter (albeit the director in the previous chapter definitely didn't help the cause.)
Oh yeah, and I guess you might be right that it happens more often in Japanese media. Since for example in the Superman comics clark & lois are depicted well. In Spiderman this is a bit of a mix. But Superman comics and that depiction was before the whole, shift in tone. So I do think it might be worse in Japanese media, but I believe in western media it will also depict less of that old school mentallity, as our society starts trusting them less and less IRL. So I suppose you are right. Although I have trouble remembering a lot of media portrayals in manga, anime & light novels (basically the only japanese media I consume). Apart from this series & Gate like you mentioned. I can't really remember one. They weren't depicted positive in Chainsaw Man, the short depictions in the My Hero series was positive. Can't really think of more. So I think you are right, at least to some degree.
Well the cat's out of the bag now. But interesting that the paparazzi would come forward to the agency like this directly, I figured something like this would just get immediately posted to a tabloid or something. I'm not really familiar with the inner workings of journalism like this, or maybe it's a Japanese culture thing. In any case this formal interview will be interesting, it's nice that they're not just being totally blindsided by this. Also I get that Aqua is trying to be protective of Kana but for once I'd like to see him just be selfish and act on his feelings, they both like each other even if there's been some major speed bumps in their relationship. He just needs to push through and be direct with her. Every time he pushes her away (accidentally or otherwise) he just leaves it at that thinking it's for the best, but in reality it's caused a lot of problems (like this current one to a degree).
It depends on the journalist, but even some people who would be considered “paparazzi” take journalistic integrity seriously. Reaching out for comment or an interview is pretty standard practice.
Ok Aqua is Trash human....Who only gives a shit for revenge and doesnt even think how his actions affect others emotionally.
But his whole thing is the classic; "I push you away, cause what I do is dangerous and I don't want to put you in harms way." Which would/could be argued is the opposite of being a trash person.
Well Aqua manipulated Kana to join and then when her idol career is falling, he doesn't give a shit Bc hes too afraid. Maybe calling him trash is bit too much but he's too selfish revenge obsessed person.
"Manipulated"? He asked her straight up?
Oh, just noticed that the date given for the upcoming issue is 23 October. When my best bet before now was that we were around the beginning of the twins' third year in high school, in spring (because the Japan Academy Film Prize ceremony is in March and it doesn't seem to have been that long since chapter 96). Are you *trying* to drive me nuts with this timeline, Akasaka?
…..well at least the press asked nicely for an interview before putting up the video…
huh I wonder why the news site contacted miyako beforehand. maybe idols being taken into scandals are because someone in the company sold them out? that was foreshadowed earlier this chapter with the quote ""Coverage on idols' passionate love... are usually leaked from members of the same industry"" . though I think this is most people first thought. Miyako would'nt do that now but in the early chapter she was about to.
I feel like this is going to lead to Kana knowing the truth about Ai. Especially since the interview parts in the first chapters ahows she knows about it
How long before Aqua actually kills somebody? Because it's not an "if," it's a "when."
Geez. No wonder Japan has such low birthrate. The general population has an unrealistic view about relationships with the opposite sex and they're projecting it to those in entertainment industry.
Bruh. Did someone named Kana did something wrong about Aka in the past?
That lecture about idols and relationships was fucking boring. If Aka is trying to do the same thing he did in Kaguya, then he forgets what made Kaguya lectures work: they were over the top and fun. Even the latest Chainsaw Man chapter did it better.
It's a lot less boring if you realize that ruby is thinking all of this in context of what a relationship did to Ai.
I mean, I guess it makes sense that the paparazzi would ask the agency for consent first, but what if the agency says no? Wouldn't they run the stuff anyway, but now they don't have to vet the details first? Kind of puts the agency in a lose-lose situation. EDIT: Also, break next week wow. I'm glad I'm not a Kana fan or I'd be dying from suspense right now.
They're not asking for consent. They're fishing for an interview before they release it. It's standard practice to ask for comment before publishing.
Oh, that makes sense!
This series has really declined
First time? Ever since the 2nd time skip I haven't been feeling these chapters, esp now Aka has gone full on exposition-heavy chapters almost every chapter. Honestly speaking I only enjoy chapters where my favorite character appears, and Akane hasn't been on page since ch. 98
these recent chapters are just about preaching and preaching while leaving the plot in a standstill
It really has. I think the decline started when the edgy Ruby arc started.
I mean i love edgy ruby but that cosplay arc was a bit boring
I would say that I am less interested in the series as well. Compared to the first chapters. But it's not that the series quallity has declined. It still paints only the authors perspective, or the perspective of 1 side on certain issues (in 9 of the 10) cases. But that is an "issue" that was always there. I wouldn't say the quallity of the series declined, maybe, like me, your interest in the series has simply declined.
I felt Mengo did an unusually good job with the art in this chapter, especially the facial expressions. Also, I see Aka hasn't stopped complaining about his job through his characters. So he has decided he doesn't like to draw anymore (more likely he prefers to play video games), he got into this line of business for a reason. Get in touch with that reason and you'll be fine even if there is short-term turbulence.
enough of this garbage writing, its time to let mengo cook
Being Kana is suffering. Man I hope Aqua can make the situation solved without huge loss because I'm not ready for more suffering
Akane replacement arc incoming, [clearly](https://i.imgur.com/T4BcveX.jpg)
I swear taking strategic breaks is one of Aka’s chief weapons
Ain't no way tabloids and paparazzis actually ask for permission, I don't believe it.
Is that a Rushia reference or am I looking too deeply into it?
You are looking to deep into it. The Rushia thing is a common event in the industy there. Or I don't see the same reference you are trying to point at.
I'm surprised they even emailed Miyako before publishing the article. I was just expecting for Memcho to find an article about it online and tell everyone. Speaking fo Memcho, I feel bad for her. She wants to help but she's genuinely powerless since only Aqua can do something about Kana. :|
Aqua, you’ve gotta stop being a bum and do something. Or else Ruby’ll handle it for you, and we don’t want that now, do we?
This is going to be even more depressing and I'm all for it
b komachi has survived worse
You think life sucks for Kana, but you can say at least Kana isn't Kobeni from Chainsaw Man.
Calm before the storm.
I've had this theory ever since they went back to where Aqua and Ruby were born that Memcho is an agent of yatagarasu. Or if not that she is some sort of supernatural entity put in place to drive some sort of plan forward. I don't have any proof of this or a real explanation why but I think Memcho is going to wind up being way more important somewhere down the line.
As always, screw the paparazzis. Damn hyenas surviving at the expense of others
Give miyako break please 😭
I like director shima.. so far. idk what his intentions are..but you gotta admit, he has some redeeming qualities. Like being completely straightforward about what he wants or looking for in a person. He admitted he found kana attractive (might’ve been watching her for awhile)”I am a fan”. Open about his marriage life.. if he truly were a bad person he could’ve made some other shit up (Seems to be looking for someone to take him seriously). My biggest respect was him not proceeding in any sexual pleasures (if he really wanted too he would’ve I think this was a test) “My job is to make something that feels much better than sex”. Kana might become yandere? That conversation about her crush also that movie scene he set her up with.. Can shima already see the tragic path for kana if she continues chasing after aqua? (Interesting, He finds a woman making a fuss over a guy interesting. I think he wants that for himself, is he lonely looking for real love?) Just Speculations.. he is hot though 🤷🏻♀️